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Title: Border Weekend
Source: ME
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Published: Dec 18, 2006
Author: 82Marine89
Post Date: 2006-12-18 20:31:39 by 82Marine89
Ping List: *The Border*
Keywords: None
Views: 2573
Comments: 108

I've been to the border quite a few times since my last thread, but this one is worth posting.

On Friday night, there was only one other guy there, so we decided to fire up the truck and do some sight seeing at night. We drove past some known pick-up points and lo and behold, we come across a group of twenty future democrat voters. A call to the Border Patrol ensured that they would get to celebrate Christmas with their loved ones.

From there, we went to another known crossing area and set up an observation post. The air was crisp, the sky was clear, and the temperature had a pucker factor of 8. Heard lots of noises, but the cold got the best of us and we went to the Indian casino for their buffet and to have a few beers.

Saturday morning two more showed up, our radio operator, a very sweet 72 y/o women that makes our safety in the field better due to her knowledge of coding coordinates and her ability to handle numerous teams in the field and get reports to the BP as required and another search member. Since it is the holiday season, this was our weekend crew.

We left at 0800 to cover the BP shift change and were able to send another 22 home for the holidays. The coyotes know when the BP changes shifts and that is when they make their moves. What screws up their day is civilians trying to do the job that our government won't do. As soon as we popped two groups, our radio operator notified the BP and was able to give some overtime to a few BP agents.

Around 1100, we were hiking some canyons, looking for signs of crossings, and we came across this steep mountainside with something on it. (look for a horizontal white bar at the top, middle of the ridge line)



After viewing it through binoculars, we realized it was a monument marker. The border between the USA and Mexico.



Being former Marines, the three of us decide to check it out. We climbed the face of that mountain in about 30 minutes to go take our photos with it.



It was fun getting there, but once we got there, we didn't feel like going down the way we came up. Instead, we took a 45 minute stroll through Mexico and walked to the end of the ridge line and came down the easy way. The rest of our day was spent driving along the border checking out high points that could be used for observation posts.





We came across another monument marker. Didn't hike to this one.



We awoke this morning to 33° temperatures and rain. It rained all night long and kept waking us up about once an hour. Below is a picture of the rain/fog and a picture of the building we operate out of and sleep in.





We spent today driving around checking out observation sites we want to use starting next year. Providing there is no amnesty.
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#1. To: 82Marine89 (#0) (Edited)

I support amnesty and look forward to seeing it enacted into law this next year. I would also point out that having been banned by Sally from el pee merely for posting an article from a decades old paper from an organization run by Bob Avakian on May Day concerning the Minutemen, I am always willing to engage in lively discussion on the issue, but I am very set on my opinion on about this.

Ferret Mike  posted on  2006-12-18   20:47:06 ET  Reply   Untrace   Trace   Private Reply  


#2. To: Ferret Mike (#1)

How can you support amnesty? Don't you believe in protecting the sovereignty of this great Nation?

82Marine89  posted on  2006-12-18   20:50:49 ET  Reply   Untrace   Trace   Private Reply  


#3. To: 82Marine89 (#2) (Edited)

They do not threaten our sovereignty. They are hapless pawns and inherently decent people whom I like and have worked side by side with on the hill.

It is the Neocons treating them, us and everyone else like game pieces on a very Machiavellian game who threaten it, and I am death on them to the extreme.

The Mexicans I am willing to support amnesty for. The Irish who are primarily the folks my family were part of heard all this danger to the U.S. crap before about them, and how they were a bunch of dirty White niggers who were ignorant and less then human.

Thus the emotionally xharged and manipulative hyperbole in regards to Mexicans means less then nothing to me.

Ferret Mike  posted on  2006-12-18   20:57:10 ET  Reply   Untrace   Trace   Private Reply  


#10. To: Ferret Mike, Red Jones (#3)

i'll tell you what threatens our sovereignty and that's the NAU. america? a memory. what's your feeling about that?

christine  posted on  2006-12-18   21:24:02 ET  Reply   Untrace   Trace   Private Reply  


#18. To: christine (#10) (Edited)

Anyone supporting the NAU is a traitor and as evil as those in high places who engineered this human wave to play worker against worker.

You must understand too, I read 'The Grapes of Wrath' by John Steinbeck. In the Dust bowl years, "Okies" were hated and feared as bad as Mexicans are now, and they were our own assimilated, English speaking people.

So I am convinced in this history repeating itself scenario looking at it from the perspective on how measures can be taken to promote return or assimilation down the road, it is our fears here that are our worst enemy, not the Mexicans.

I listen to how those in the anti-immigration movement denigrate and dehumanize Mexicans. If I saw the opposition to amnesty treating Mexicans as human beings and diologing with them with an eye to doing what is good for them too, I would be more hospitable to their views.

Talk using epithets like 'Wetbacks' and Chili Chokers, etc and treating them like vermin and enemies to their face makes them look bad, and they are missing opportunities to bring the Hispanic community to the table as players to communicate and work together to see if an easier then a round them up like inhuman cockroaches sort of take on things.

Ferret Mike  posted on  2006-12-18   21:38:09 ET  Reply   Untrace   Trace   Private Reply  


#21. To: Ferret Mike (#18)

Talk using epithets like 'Wetbacks' and Chili Chokers, etc and treating them like vermin and enemies to their face makes them look bad, and they are missing opportunities to bring the Hispanic community to the table as players to communicate and work together to see if an easier then a round them up like inhuman cockroaches sort of take on things

fair enough, but what you fail to realize is that that street goes both ways. there are plenty of them (i believe a lot more than you think) who hate white americans and believe that this is their land, not ours.

christine  posted on  2006-12-18   21:44:19 ET  Reply   Untrace   Trace   Private Reply  


#25. To: christine (#21)

"fair enough, but what you fail to realize is that that street goes both ways. there are plenty of them (i believe a lot more than you think) who hate white Americans and believe that this is their land, not ours."

And attitudes and polarization caused by groups like the Minutemen inflame this.

I am confident that a sane, treating everyone as human beings approach will neutralize and assuage this movement.

Look at how our war has made the Iraqis more anti American. The way the Minutemen approach this issue inflames the Axlan movement much like Bush's war creates terrorism. If we are mature, compassionate if firm on the resolve to protect American Sovereignty sort of people when we go up against this Azlan movement, I am sure it will fast become a marginalized paper tiger.

Ferret Mike  posted on  2006-12-18   21:52:33 ET  Reply   Untrace   Trace   Private Reply  


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#39. To: Ferret Mike (#25)

The way the Minutemen approach this issue inflames the Axlan movement much like Bush's war creates terrorism.

This statement is total bullshit ... Fuck Axlan and their movement. Bush invaded Iraq and deserves Iraqi hatred ... the Mexicans are invading America and they too deserve the hatred they're receiving. (More than they're receiving actually.)

This problem will not be solved until the border is secured. Then migration can be regulated properly to allow workers as needed, and restrain felons etc.

But to grant amnesty "again" is stupidity that will only cause the illegals to believe we aren't serious about our border, our families, our jobs and our country.

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