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Title: Border Weekend
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Published: Dec 18, 2006
Author: 82Marine89
Post Date: 2006-12-18 20:31:39 by 82Marine89
Ping List: *The Border*
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On Friday night, there was only one other guy there, so we decided to fire up the truck and do some sight seeing at night. We drove past some known pick-up points and lo and behold, we come across a group of twenty future democrat voters. A call to the Border Patrol ensured that they would get to celebrate Christmas with their loved ones.
From there, we went to another known crossing area and set up an observation post. The air was crisp, the sky was clear, and the temperature had a pucker factor of 8. Heard lots of noises, but the cold got the best of us and we went to the Indian casino for their buffet and to have a few beers.
Saturday morning two more showed up, our radio operator, a very sweet 72 y/o women that makes our safety in the field better due to her knowledge of coding coordinates and her ability to handle numerous teams in the field and get reports to the BP as required and another search member. Since it is the holiday season, this was our weekend crew.
We left at 0800 to cover the BP shift change and were able to send another 22 home for the holidays. The coyotes know when the BP changes shifts and that is when they make their moves. What screws up their day is civilians trying to do the job that our government won't do. As soon as we popped two groups, our radio operator notified the BP and was able to give some overtime to a few BP agents.
Around 1100, we were hiking some canyons, looking for signs of crossings, and we came across this steep mountainside with something on it. (look for a horizontal white bar at the top, middle of the ridge line)
After viewing it through binoculars, we realized it was a monument marker. The border between the USA and Mexico.
Being former Marines, the three of us decide to check it out. We climbed the face of that mountain in about 30 minutes to go take our photos with it.
It was fun getting there, but once we got there, we didn't feel like going down the way we came up. Instead, we took a 45 minute stroll through Mexico and walked to the end of the ridge line and came down the easy way. The rest of our day was spent driving along the border checking out high points that could be used for observation posts.
We came across another monument marker. Didn't hike to this one. 
We awoke this morning to 33° temperatures and rain. It rained all night long and kept waking us up about once an hour. Below is a picture of the rain/fog and a picture of the building we operate out of and sleep in. 
We spent today driving around checking out observation sites we want to use starting next year. Providing there is no amnesty.
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#1. To: 82Marine89 (#0)
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I support amnesty and look forward to seeing it enacted into law this next year. I would also point out that having been banned by Sally from el pee merely for posting an article from a decades old paper from an organization run by Bob Avakian on May Day concerning the Minutemen, I am always willing to engage in lively discussion on the issue, but I am very set on my opinion on about this.
How can you support amnesty? Don't you believe in protecting the sovereignty of this great Nation?
I do support pay to play measure though, we all should have a common language, and if people stay they really need to learn and use English. I believe in strengthening measures to aid in advancing assimilation, but if they want to stay, let them.
I tend to agree with you on amnesty also. The recent immigrants were invited here in a de facto basis. That is, though they came here illegally the government knew they were doing it and greased the wheels for them to do it. And since they are here they've put down roots. It would be wrong to make them leave. We have an obligation to let them stay. Regarding whether they're a threat to our sovereignty - the Republicans are a far greater threat to our sovereignty than the 'illegal' aliens are. and the Minutemen support the republicans.
I tend to agree that we "de facto" grease the wheels that permit them to live and work here. One of the guys recently deported from the Meat Packing Company raids at Cactus, Texas had worked at the plant for 18 years. The illegal problem in this country has been ordained by the Catholic Church and our criminal politicians. It can only be stopped at the border, not by rounding up illegals after they're here. This is a ruse. The Govt. is using the Mexicans to train for deporting us, enemy combatants. Migrants need to be screened and follow the law. Rounding them up by raiding different facilities with 300 ninja warriors toting machine guns under the direction of Homeland Security using Gestapo tactics is toxic, and a preview of our future. Employers and landlords need to be heavily fined, and have their operations shut down when caught and convicted of hiring or housing illegals. Then the illegals will return home and tell their families and friends that the party is over and put an end to the extremely unnecessary expense of rounding them up.
that is my point. it is unjust to just throw them all out. the guy was possibly more american than mexican. a lot of them have kids that speak english only. and the minutemen want to throw them out, but the minutemen support the politicians who invited them. the solution is to do what reagan wanted in 1986 and that his own party wouldn't support him on. that is to 1 have an amnesty and 2 require the employers to confirm that all new hires are legal and thenpenalize the hell out of the employers who don't comply. and to do as Ferret said encourage english encourage assimilation. the republicans have this department of education where they control the schools and the schools are discouraging assimilation and english. it'll do a lot more good to throw out the republicans than to throw out the illegal aliens. the illegal aliens pay taxes all the republicans do is squander money and start wars.
We gave them an amnesty and were promised that there would be no more. Why don't penalize the hell out of them now? Make the illegals self deport.
as I was explaining - the story I read in the WSJ in 1986 blamed Republican leaders of the Senate for not requiring the employers to check out new workers. It was known at that time (and the article said so) that the workers would get fake documents and that the employers would be off the hook by merely photographing the documents as the law required and would be allowed to make no efforts whatsoever to find the validity of the documents. I admit the House Democrats are equal to blame. and I admit Reagan was the good guy that you and I both wish won that conflict. but we were lied to in 1986 and anybody who looked closely knew we were lied to at the time. That includes me. I live among mexican immigrants. when there's a little kid who was born here and grew up here it is wrong to just send them back. and the new legislation that Bush favors will mean 100 million new immigrants in 20 years. and you and I are both losers in the politics regardless of what we say. our whole country is a loser. republicans and democrats both have been against us for a long time. probably republicans more than democrats. but what difference does it make? MInutemen support the republicans. so I don't support Minutemen.
#50. To: Red Jones (#48)
The definition of "insanity" can be one where you do the same thing time and time again and expect different results. Why should we expect things to be any different if we just repeat what was done in 1986? No, we can't repeat it. The only way any form of amnesty will work is to tell people to choose a country. If they pick the US, they don't go back to wherever - and they have the bodies buried here in US cemeteries and fully assimilate. If they don't do that, we kick 'em out. Even if they were born here. There's a difference between the immigrants of yesteryear and the immigrants of today. The Irish of yesteryear bought a burial plot in Boston as fast as they could. The Mexicans of today ship the body down south. To me, that's the criteria. If you want to be an American *and* you are willing to give up your previous citizenship in toto - fine. If you want to play the game of taking the money, crying about "RAAAAAACISM" - and running, then we don't need you. That may seem harsh, but that's what other countries require. I don't see why we should pay for everyone and pay for an assimilation program and pay and pay and pay to get - what - in return? Throwing money down a rathole is stupid. We should not be doing stupid things.
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#2. To: Ferret Mike (#1)
#4. To: 82Marine89 (#2)
#6. To: Ferret Mike (#4)
#36. To: Red Jones (#6)
I tend to agree with you on amnesty also. The recent immigrants were invited here in a de facto basis. That is, though they came here illegally the government knew they were doing it and greased the wheels for them to do it. And since they are here they've put down roots. It would be wrong to make them leave. We have an obligation to let them stay.
#38. To: noone222 (#36)
One of the guys recently deported from the Meat Packing Company raids at Cactus, Texas had worked at the plant for 18 years.
#42. To: Red Jones (#38)
the solution is to do what reagan wanted in 1986 and that his own party wouldn't support him on. that is to 1 have an amnesty and 2 require the employers to confirm that all new hires are legal and thenpenalize the hell out of the employers who don't comply.
#48. To: 82Marine89 (#42)
We gave them an amnesty and were promised that there would be no more.
Replies to Comment # 48. but we were lied to in 1986 and anybody who looked closely knew we were lied to at the time. That includes me.
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