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Title: Border Weekend
Source: ME
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Published: Dec 18, 2006
Author: 82Marine89
Post Date: 2006-12-18 20:31:39 by 82Marine89
Ping List: *The Border*
Keywords: None
Views: 1430
Comments: 108

I've been to the border quite a few times since my last thread, but this one is worth posting.

On Friday night, there was only one other guy there, so we decided to fire up the truck and do some sight seeing at night. We drove past some known pick-up points and lo and behold, we come across a group of twenty future democrat voters. A call to the Border Patrol ensured that they would get to celebrate Christmas with their loved ones.

From there, we went to another known crossing area and set up an observation post. The air was crisp, the sky was clear, and the temperature had a pucker factor of 8. Heard lots of noises, but the cold got the best of us and we went to the Indian casino for their buffet and to have a few beers.

Saturday morning two more showed up, our radio operator, a very sweet 72 y/o women that makes our safety in the field better due to her knowledge of coding coordinates and her ability to handle numerous teams in the field and get reports to the BP as required and another search member. Since it is the holiday season, this was our weekend crew.

We left at 0800 to cover the BP shift change and were able to send another 22 home for the holidays. The coyotes know when the BP changes shifts and that is when they make their moves. What screws up their day is civilians trying to do the job that our government won't do. As soon as we popped two groups, our radio operator notified the BP and was able to give some overtime to a few BP agents.

Around 1100, we were hiking some canyons, looking for signs of crossings, and we came across this steep mountainside with something on it. (look for a horizontal white bar at the top, middle of the ridge line)



After viewing it through binoculars, we realized it was a monument marker. The border between the USA and Mexico.



Being former Marines, the three of us decide to check it out. We climbed the face of that mountain in about 30 minutes to go take our photos with it.



It was fun getting there, but once we got there, we didn't feel like going down the way we came up. Instead, we took a 45 minute stroll through Mexico and walked to the end of the ridge line and came down the easy way. The rest of our day was spent driving along the border checking out high points that could be used for observation posts.





We came across another monument marker. Didn't hike to this one.



We awoke this morning to 33° temperatures and rain. It rained all night long and kept waking us up about once an hour. Below is a picture of the rain/fog and a picture of the building we operate out of and sleep in.





We spent today driving around checking out observation sites we want to use starting next year. Providing there is no amnesty.
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#1. To: 82Marine89 (#0) (Edited)

I support amnesty and look forward to seeing it enacted into law this next year. I would also point out that having been banned by Sally from el pee merely for posting an article from a decades old paper from an organization run by Bob Avakian on May Day concerning the Minutemen, I am always willing to engage in lively discussion on the issue, but I am very set on my opinion on about this.

Ferret Mike  posted on  2006-12-18   20:47:06 ET  Reply   Untrace   Trace   Private Reply  


#2. To: Ferret Mike (#1)

How can you support amnesty? Don't you believe in protecting the sovereignty of this great Nation?

82Marine89  posted on  2006-12-18   20:50:49 ET  Reply   Untrace   Trace   Private Reply  


#3. To: 82Marine89 (#2) (Edited)

They do not threaten our sovereignty. They are hapless pawns and inherently decent people whom I like and have worked side by side with on the hill.

It is the Neocons treating them, us and everyone else like game pieces on a very Machiavellian game who threaten it, and I am death on them to the extreme.

The Mexicans I am willing to support amnesty for. The Irish who are primarily the folks my family were part of heard all this danger to the U.S. crap before about them, and how they were a bunch of dirty White niggers who were ignorant and less then human.

Thus the emotionally xharged and manipulative hyperbole in regards to Mexicans means less then nothing to me.

Ferret Mike  posted on  2006-12-18   20:57:10 ET  Reply   Untrace   Trace   Private Reply  


#64. To: Ferret Mike (#3) (Edited)

The Mexicans I am willing to support amnesty for. The Irish who are primarily the folks my family were part of heard all this danger to the U.S. crap before about them, and how they were a bunch of dirty White niggers who were ignorant and less then human.

Thus the emotionally xharged and manipulative hyperbole in regards to Mexicans means less then nothing to me.

Would you also support unlimited immigration by the English into Ireland? (The English have long sought to subvert Ireland for the Queen. Would you let them just come in and take it....again?)

Arator  posted on  2006-12-19   9:46:07 ET  Reply   Untrace   Trace   Private Reply  


#81. To: Arator (#64)

Not a good analogy. You are putting a tiny island in the U.S.'s role and England in Mexico's role in your analogy.

I see the Minutemen and the xenophobia against Mexicans as exacerbating the immigration problem. If people dialog and listen to what each other have to say and work together to find solutions to th problem both sides arrive at and can live with, that will engender a long term solution to the problem.

I don't feel the influx of people is sustainable or that the numbers out of country will stay here ultimately.

We - like the Irish and the English - should treat Mexicans as neighbors; not as some animals to lock out behind a fence and a make mu day immigration policy.

Working together both peoples can find solutions, and yes I know it will be a long and difficult process.

But it will be much more enduring a set of solutions without the dangers of backlash and conflict caused by simmering resentment and anger, or a festering desire for revenge.

Bush looked for th war in Iraq to be a quick and easy solution to the Saddam problem. We all see now it was not.

The same goes for the 'easy' solution of round ups and deportations with a strongly guarded border, we eventually would see it creates more problems then solves, and oppression and oppression of Mexicans makes us equally oppressed and imprisoned.

We should treat the Mexicans as we would want out people treated if the human migration went the other direction, because if we treat them as badly as we would not want to be treated, we lose valuable aspects of ourselves.

Ferret Mike  posted on  2006-12-19   16:25:47 ET  Reply   Untrace   Trace   Private Reply  


#85. To: Ferret Mike (#81)

Well, it isn't as if the economic situation in Mexico is some surprise to the US. We've done everything we could over several decades to ensure that Mexico was not economically competitive, and we've discouraged the kind of reforms that have made our economy spin like a top. Could the US tolerate a wealthy, prosperous and strategically powerful rival on our southern border? Would we?

We've never had to, for good reason. In terms of the illegals, an illegal alien can make enough money in a summer of unskilled labor to buy a small house. Coming to the US is like going to a Gold Rush.

There ain't no keeping 'em out.

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