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Title: Border Weekend
Source: ME
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Published: Dec 18, 2006
Author: 82Marine89
Post Date: 2006-12-18 20:31:39 by 82Marine89
Ping List: *The Border*
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Views: 1537
Comments: 108

I've been to the border quite a few times since my last thread, but this one is worth posting.

On Friday night, there was only one other guy there, so we decided to fire up the truck and do some sight seeing at night. We drove past some known pick-up points and lo and behold, we come across a group of twenty future democrat voters. A call to the Border Patrol ensured that they would get to celebrate Christmas with their loved ones.

From there, we went to another known crossing area and set up an observation post. The air was crisp, the sky was clear, and the temperature had a pucker factor of 8. Heard lots of noises, but the cold got the best of us and we went to the Indian casino for their buffet and to have a few beers.

Saturday morning two more showed up, our radio operator, a very sweet 72 y/o women that makes our safety in the field better due to her knowledge of coding coordinates and her ability to handle numerous teams in the field and get reports to the BP as required and another search member. Since it is the holiday season, this was our weekend crew.

We left at 0800 to cover the BP shift change and were able to send another 22 home for the holidays. The coyotes know when the BP changes shifts and that is when they make their moves. What screws up their day is civilians trying to do the job that our government won't do. As soon as we popped two groups, our radio operator notified the BP and was able to give some overtime to a few BP agents.

Around 1100, we were hiking some canyons, looking for signs of crossings, and we came across this steep mountainside with something on it. (look for a horizontal white bar at the top, middle of the ridge line)



After viewing it through binoculars, we realized it was a monument marker. The border between the USA and Mexico.



Being former Marines, the three of us decide to check it out. We climbed the face of that mountain in about 30 minutes to go take our photos with it.



It was fun getting there, but once we got there, we didn't feel like going down the way we came up. Instead, we took a 45 minute stroll through Mexico and walked to the end of the ridge line and came down the easy way. The rest of our day was spent driving along the border checking out high points that could be used for observation posts.





We came across another monument marker. Didn't hike to this one.



We awoke this morning to 33° temperatures and rain. It rained all night long and kept waking us up about once an hour. Below is a picture of the rain/fog and a picture of the building we operate out of and sleep in.





We spent today driving around checking out observation sites we want to use starting next year. Providing there is no amnesty.
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#1. To: 82Marine89 (#0) (Edited)

I support amnesty and look forward to seeing it enacted into law this next year. I would also point out that having been banned by Sally from el pee merely for posting an article from a decades old paper from an organization run by Bob Avakian on May Day concerning the Minutemen, I am always willing to engage in lively discussion on the issue, but I am very set on my opinion on about this.

Ferret Mike  posted on  2006-12-18   20:47:06 ET  Reply   Untrace   Trace   Private Reply  


#2. To: Ferret Mike (#1)

How can you support amnesty? Don't you believe in protecting the sovereignty of this great Nation?

82Marine89  posted on  2006-12-18   20:50:49 ET  Reply   Untrace   Trace   Private Reply  


#4. To: 82Marine89 (#2)

I do support pay to play measure though, we all should have a common language, and if people stay they really need to learn and use English.

I believe in strengthening measures to aid in advancing assimilation, but if they want to stay, let them.

Ferret Mike  posted on  2006-12-18   21:01:57 ET  Reply   Untrace   Trace   Private Reply  


#6. To: Ferret Mike (#4)

I tend to agree with you on amnesty also. The recent immigrants were invited here in a de facto basis. That is, though they came here illegally the government knew they were doing it and greased the wheels for them to do it. And since they are here they've put down roots. It would be wrong to make them leave. We have an obligation to let them stay.

Regarding whether they're a threat to our sovereignty - the Republicans are a far greater threat to our sovereignty than the 'illegal' aliens are. and the Minutemen support the republicans.

Red Jones  posted on  2006-12-18   21:19:16 ET  Reply   Untrace   Trace   Private Reply  


#36. To: Red Jones (#6)

I tend to agree with you on amnesty also. The recent immigrants were invited here in a de facto basis. That is, though they came here illegally the government knew they were doing it and greased the wheels for them to do it. And since they are here they've put down roots. It would be wrong to make them leave. We have an obligation to let them stay.

I tend to agree that we "de facto" grease the wheels that permit them to live and work here. One of the guys recently deported from the Meat Packing Company raids at Cactus, Texas had worked at the plant for 18 years.

The illegal problem in this country has been ordained by the Catholic Church and our criminal politicians. It can only be stopped at the border, not by rounding up illegals after they're here. This is a ruse. The Govt. is using the Mexicans to train for deporting us, enemy combatants.

Migrants need to be screened and follow the law. Rounding them up by raiding different facilities with 300 ninja warriors toting machine guns under the direction of Homeland Security using Gestapo tactics is toxic, and a preview of our future.

Employers and landlords need to be heavily fined, and have their operations shut down when caught and convicted of hiring or housing illegals. Then the illegals will return home and tell their families and friends that the party is over and put an end to the extremely unnecessary expense of rounding them up.

noone222  posted on  2006-12-18   22:09:40 ET  Reply   Untrace   Trace   Private Reply  


#38. To: noone222 (#36)

One of the guys recently deported from the Meat Packing Company raids at Cactus, Texas had worked at the plant for 18 years.

that is my point. it is unjust to just throw them all out. the guy was possibly more american than mexican. a lot of them have kids that speak english only. and the minutemen want to throw them out, but the minutemen support the politicians who invited them.

the solution is to do what reagan wanted in 1986 and that his own party wouldn't support him on. that is to 1 have an amnesty and 2 require the employers to confirm that all new hires are legal and thenpenalize the hell out of the employers who don't comply.

and to do as Ferret said encourage english encourage assimilation.

the republicans have this department of education where they control the schools and the schools are discouraging assimilation and english.

it'll do a lot more good to throw out the republicans than to throw out the illegal aliens. the illegal aliens pay taxes all the republicans do is squander money and start wars.

Red Jones  posted on  2006-12-18   22:16:34 ET  Reply   Untrace   Trace   Private Reply  


#43. To: Red Jones (#38)

the republicans have this department of education where they control the schools and the schools are discouraging assimilation and english.

This statement is utter rubbish and bears zero resemblance to reality.

Anyone who has worked in education will tell you that the folks in charge are the most loosey-goosey left-wing people you will ever encounter on the planet.

Education nowadays is all about "feelings" and "self-esteem" and has nothing to do with actually educating people. Take it from someone who spends a lot of time at an "Alternative" high school -- there is less education going on than you think.

To the administration, its a numbers game. Gotta keep enrollment up, gotta keep graduation rates up. Otherwise, we don't get the money.

There is no emphasis on actually teaching kids anything. Its about keeping the system rolling.

mirage  posted on  2006-12-18   22:38:38 ET  Reply   Untrace   Trace   Private Reply  


#68. To: mirage (#43)

Anyone who has worked in education will tell you that the folks in charge are the most loosey-goosey left-wing people you will ever encounter on the planet.

Maybe where you come from. Where I come from they don't teach sex education (abstinence only is mandated) and books of fine art are edited so that the genitalia of statues (like Michelangelo's "David" or the nipples on the statues of Justice) are blurred out. My daughter's second grade teacher told her that Hannukah was how the Jews celebrate the birth of Jesus.

I doubt the loosey-goosey lefties are responsible for that!

LOL.

bluedogtxn  posted on  2006-12-19   11:58:12 ET  Reply   Untrace   Trace   Private Reply  


#86. To: bluedogtxn (#68)

I doubt the loosey-goosey lefties are responsible for that!

You're also south of the Mason/Dixon. We here on the left coast and also people in the Northeast or Upper Midwest get the loosey-goosey types!

mirage  posted on  2006-12-19   16:36:19 ET  Reply   Untrace   Trace   Private Reply  


#89. To: mirage (#86)

You're also south of the Mason/Dixon. We here on the left coast and also people in the Northeast or Upper Midwest get the loosey-goosey types!

Well, all things considered, I think I'd prefer the loosey gooseys to the watered-down, censored, and downright false information I have to reprogram out of my kids in their current school, which is actually rated the best in this district.

bluedogtxn  posted on  2006-12-19   16:43:03 ET  Reply   Untrace   Trace   Private Reply  


#90. To: bluedogtxn (#89)

Well, all things considered, I think I'd prefer the loosey gooseys to the watered-down, censored, and downright false information I have to reprogram out of my kids in their current school, which is actually rated the best in this district.

You're not alone in combating watered-down, censored, and downright false information. Relatives who are teachers here do that constantly and when I go to help out, I'm always sending kids to dictionaries and encyclopedias -- and newspapers.

The teachers here in the Northwest are such Bush haters that they use English classes to pontificate on the subject.

Its not teaching here. Its a political indoctrination, particularly with one who seems to want to "empower" everyone by telling them they can crap on someone else to feel better.

mirage  posted on  2006-12-19   16:46:54 ET  Reply   Untrace   Trace   Private Reply  


#92. To: mirage (#90)

The teachers here in the Northwest are such Bush haters that they use English classes to pontificate on the subject.

Well, that's nothing new. When I was in 7th grade in Middleton, RI, my science teacher was a leftover hippy (it was 1979). She once pontificated for fifteen minutes on the Vietnam war, then asked of the boys in the class, "Who would go to the military if they were drafted and who would be smart and go to Canada?"

I was the only one who raised my hand that I'd go to the military (being a good little son of a USAF major and living on base). It was immediately demanded that I explain myself, then the bitch wound up giving me a D in the class (I wound up becoming a National Merit Scholar, so I guess the joke was ultimately on her).

I was a contrary son of a bitch even then.

In my kids' school the prevailing mode is GOP think, and the teachers regularly talk about how wonderful George Bush is and talk about how terrible "liberals" are. If my kids are as contrary as I was, I may wind up with a couple of communists on my hands.

bluedogtxn  posted on  2006-12-19   16:54:09 ET  Reply   Untrace   Trace   Private Reply  


#95. To: bluedogtxn (#92)

If my kids are as contrary as I was, I may wind up with a couple of communists on my hands.

I'm shooting for "wild-eyed independents" when the time is right. Or, at the very least, kids that can form a coherent argument and back it up with logic and fact.

You and I have similar backgrounds, though, I turned down the USNA appointment :-)

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