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Title: Archaeologist finds 'oldest porn statue'
Source: Graham Hancock
URL Source: http://www.guardian.co.uk/arts/news/story/0,11711,1451507,00.html
Published: Apr 24, 2005
Author: Krysia Diver in Stuttgart
Post Date: 2005-04-24 21:05:51 by tom007
Keywords: Archaeologist, oldest, statue
Views: 95
Comments: 4

Archaeologist finds 'oldest porn statue'

Krysia Diver in Stuttgart Monday April 4, 2005 The Guardian

Stone-age figurines depicting what could be the oldest pornographic scene in the world have been unearthed in Germany. Archaeologists have discovered what they believe to be the 7,200-year-old remnants of a man having intercourse with a woman.

The extraordinary find, at an archaeological dig in Saxony, shatters the belief that sex was a taboo subject in that era.

Until now, the oldest representations of sexual scenes were frescos from about 2,000 years ago.

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Harald Stäuble of the Archaeological Institute of Saxony, based in Dresden, discovered the 8cm lower half of a man, which has been named Adonis von Zschernitz. "A unique find," reported Spiegel magazine. "This is the oldest male clay figurine ever discovered in the world."

But the most amazing find came at the dig in Leipzig one month later, when Dr Stäuble found what could be the matching female figurine.

Dr Stäuble, who is due to publish a paper on his findings this year, said: "After finding Adonis, we got the team to sieve every speck of soil for a whole month. We were well rewarded because we then found fragments of a female figurine of the same size."

He added: "Adonis is bent forward and the female figure is bent forward even more.

"There are two ways of looking at this. The first is that they were doing a ritual dance, but the other possibility is that the man and woman were copulating and that he was standing behind her. The copulation option is far more likely, and would make this the oldest representation ever of a pornographic scene."

Until now, there have been discoveries of clay models of women with large breasts and bottoms, which have always been interpreted as connected with fertility. But Adonis was the first figurine that clearly depicted male sexual organs.

"This is such an interesting discovery," said Dr Sträuble, "as these figurines are not stylistic, but realistic. They open up a gateway for historians and anthropologists to discuss whether sex really was a taboo subject in the stone age."

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#1. To: tom007 (#0)

"This is such an interesting discovery," said Dr Sträuble, "as these figurines are not stylistic, but realistic. They open up a gateway for historians and anthropologists to discuss whether sex really was a taboo subject in the stone age."

I didn't even realise that was a question being asked. I don't think sex was a taboo subject until the Victorian age.

Dakmar  posted on  2005-04-24   21:53:21 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#2. To: Dakmar (#1)

I don't think sex was a taboo subject until the Victorian age.

Early Greeks and Romans were "usually" rather circumspect on the issue. It seemed to be considered a hall mark of civilization. Not taboo, exactly, but refined.

Primitive man is a different thing, it would seem, but so much of this is not of firm evidence, rather inference.

Fertility was a good thing.

tom007  posted on  2005-04-24   22:04:57 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#3. To: tom007 (#2)

I forget which one, but one of Aristophanes comedies was performed in its time with all the male actors wearing giant phalluses. That wouldn't have played well in the early days of the Royal Albert Hall.

Also, they found all kinds of fertility fetish stuff when they unearthed Pompeii.

Dakmar  posted on  2005-04-24   22:19:35 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#4. To: Dakmar (#3)

actors wearing giant phalluses. That wouldn't have played well in the early days of the Royal Albert Hall.

You got that right. That's what the "usually" bit was about. The customs changed with the times.

I've seen alot of Greek pottery graced with absolutely obscene graphics, coupeling, sodemy,group sex, etc., read of intense oral sex (women /man), in that era,(say 480 or so) and the famous, but under wraps, pottery depiction of a goddess, with a BIG smile on her face, carrying a large basket full of dildos, a Greek word, BTY.

tom007  posted on  2005-04-24   22:38:38 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


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