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Title: Virgil Goode And Another Virginian
Source: kos
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Published: Dec 22, 2006
Author: some kos commie
Post Date: 2006-12-22 14:53:52 by bluedogtxn
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Comments: 14

by BarbinMD Fri Dec 22, 2006 at 05:04:49 AM PST By now, most people are familiar with the letter written by Rep. Virgil Goode, in response to reports that Rep.-elect Keith Ellison plans to use the Koran when he is sworn into office. Goode said, in part:

When I raise my hand to take the oath on Swearing In Day, I will have the Bible in my other hand. I do not subscribe to using the Koran in any way. [...]

I fear that in the next century we will have many more Muslims in the United States if we do not adopt the strict immigration policies that I believe are necessary to preserve the values and beliefs traditional to the United States of America...

As long as I have the honor of representing the citizens of the 5th District of Virginia in the United States House of Representatives, The Koran is not going to be on the wall of my office.

Naturally, Goode's bigoted letter triggered protests from civil rights groups and The Council on American-Islamic Relations, who asked Goode to retract his comments. But Goode refuses, saying:

I wish more people would take a stand and stand up for the principles on which this country was founded.

Good idea, Mr. Goode. Perhaps more people, like you, should take a few minutes to read the words of another Virginian:

Whereas Almighty God hath created the mind free; that all attempts to influence it by temporal punishments or burthens, or by civil incapacitations, tend only to beget habits of hypocrisy and meanness, and are a departure from the plan of the Holy author of our religion, who being Lord both of body and mind, yet chose not to propagate it by coercions on either, as was in his almighty power to do; that the impious presumption of legislators and rulers, civil as well as ecclesiastical, who being themselves but fallible and uninspired men, have assumed dominion over the faith of others, setting up their own opinions and modes of thinking as the only true and infallible, and as such endeavouring to impose them on others [...]

Be it enacted by the General assembly, that no man shall be compelled to frequent or support any religious worship, place, or ministry whatsoever, nor shall be enforced, restrained, molested, or burthened in his body or goods, not shall otherwise suffer on account of his religious opinions or belief; but that all men shall be free to profess, and by argument to maintain, their opinion in matters of religion, that that the same shall in no wise diminish, enlarge, or affect their civil capacities.

Perhaps Rep. Goode should stand up for the words of Thomas Jefferson in his Statute of Religious Freedom.

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#1. To: bluedogtxn (#0)

I know Virgil Goode. He's a fucking idiot.

bluegrass  posted on  2006-12-22   15:35:22 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#2. To: bluegrass (#1)

I know Virgil Goode. He's a fucking idiot.

Clearly.

the law, in its majestic equality, forbids the rich as well as the poor to sleep under bridges, beg in the streets and steal bread.

bluedogtxn  posted on  2006-12-22   15:36:40 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#3. To: bluegrass (#1)

I know Virgil Goode. He's a fucking idiot

Really...and how is it that you know Virgil. Do you live in his district?

Freedomsnotfree  posted on  2006-12-22   17:35:13 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#4. To: Freedomsnotfree (#3)

It's a long story.

The majority of elected officials aren't very bright, though many are quite cunning. They excel at getting elected.

bluegrass  posted on  2006-12-22   22:48:35 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#5. To: bluedogtxn (#0)

the plan of the Holy author of our religion

What do you think Jefferson meant by "our religion"?

Why do you think he used that term?

DeaconBenjamin  posted on  2006-12-22   22:55:31 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#6. To: bluedogtxn (#0)

I wish more people would take a stand and stand up for the principles on which this country was founded.

"....Wee, greately commending and graciously accepting of theire desires to the furtherance of soe noble a worke which may, by the providence of Almightie God, hereafter tende to the glorie of His Divine Majestie in propagating of Christian religion to suche people as yet live in darkenesse and miserable ignorance of the true knoweledge and worshippe of God and may in tyme bring the infidels and salvages living in those parts to humane civilitie and to a setled and quiet govermente, doe by theise our lettres patents graciously accepte of and agree to theire humble and well intended desires;

The First Charter of Virginia; April 10, 1606

http://www.yale.edu/law web/avalon/states/va01.htm

AllTheKings'HorsesWontDoIt  posted on  2006-12-23   13:41:40 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#7. To: bluedogtxn (#0)

Bush Is Urged to Act on Criticism of Muslim
White House officials said they were aware that some Democrats and Muslims were urging President Bush to admonish Representative Virgil H. Goode Jr., Republican of Virginia, and Dennis Prager, the conservative commentator, for suggesting that the first Muslim elected to the House had no place in Congress. “We’re aware of the situation,” said Dana Perino, a spokeswoman for Mr. Bush, “but no judgments have been made.” Mr. Goode said the election of Keith Ellison, a Minnesota lawyer who converted to Islam as a college student, posed a threat to American values. Mr. Prager, a presidential appointee to the board that oversees the United States Holocaust Memorial Museum, said Mr. Ellison should not serve if he could not swear on a Bible, though he has apologized for those remarks. Mr. Ellison plans to use the Koran during a private swearing-in ceremony next month.

"The illegal we do immediately. The unconstitutional takes a little longer."
---Henry Kissinger, New York Times, October 28, 1973

robin  posted on  2006-12-23   14:59:15 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#8. To: bluedogtxn (#0)

Whereas Almighty God hath created the mind free; that all attempts to influence it by temporal punishments or burthens, or by civil incapacitations, tend only to beget habits of hypocrisy and meanness, and are a departure from the plan of the Holy author of our religion, who being Lord both of body and mind, yet chose not to propagate it by coercions on either, as was in his almighty power to do; that the impious presumption of legislators and rulers, civil as well as ecclesiastical, who being themselves but fallible and uninspired men, have assumed dominion over the faith of others, setting up their own opinions and modes of thinking as the only true and infallible, and as such endeavouring to impose them on others [...]

ah, yes, HIS PLAN......what is it?

Treasury of Scripture Knowledge

2Sa 7:10 — Moreover I will appoint a place for MY PEOPLE ISRAEL [ The Church is Israel Now http://www.preteristarchive.com/PartialPreterism/provan- charles_dd_01.html ], and will plant them, that they may dwell in a place of their own, and move no more; neither shall the children of wickedness afflict them any more, as beforetime.

1Ch 17:9 Also I will ordain a place for my people Israel, and will plant them, and they shall dwell in their place, and shall be moved no more; neither shall the children of wickedness waste them any more, as at the beginning,

Eze 37:25 And they shall dwell in the land that I have given unto Jacob my servant [ http://www.blueletterbi ble.org/tsk_b/Jos/1/3.html ], wherein your fathers have dwelt; [ http://hope-of-israel.org/hebinusa.htm ] and they shall dwell therein, [even] they, and their children, and their children's children for ever: and my servant David [shall be] their prince for ever.

http://www.blueletterb ible.org/tsk_b/2Sa/7/10.html

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Ezekiel - Chapter 34

Eze 34:1 ¶ And the word of the LORD came unto me, saying,

Eze 34:2 Son of man, prophesy against the shepherds of Israel, prophesy, and say unto them, Thus saith the Lord GOD unto the shepherds; Woe [be] to the shepherds of Israel that do feed themselves! should not the shepherds feed the flocks?

Eze 34:3 Ye eat the fat, and ye clothe you with the wool, ye kill them that are fed: [but] ye feed not the flock.

Eze 34:4 The diseased have ye not strengthened, neither have ye healed that which was sick, neither have ye bound up [that which was] broken, neither have ye brought again that which was driven away, neither have ye sought that which was lost; but with force and with cruelty have ye ruled them.

Eze 34:5 And they were scattered, because [there is] no shepherd: and they became meat to all the beasts of the field, when they were scattered.

Eze 34:6 My sheep wandered through all the mountains, and upon every high hill: yea, my flock was scattered upon all the face of the earth, and none did search or seek [after them].

Eze 34:7 ¶ Therefore, ye shepherds, hear the word of the LORD;

Eze 34:8 [As] I live, saith the Lord GOD, surely because my flock became a prey, and my flock became meat to every beast of the field, because [there was] no shepherd, neither did my shepherds search for my flock, but the shepherds fed themselves, and fed not my flock;

Eze 34:9 Therefore, O ye shepherds, hear the word of the LORD;

Eze 34:10 Thus saith the Lord GOD; Behold, I [am] against the shepherds; and I will require my flock at their hand, and cause them to cease from feeding the flock; neither shall the shepherds feed themselves any more; for I will deliver my flock from their mouth, that they may not be meat for them.

Eze 34:11 ¶ For thus saith the Lord GOD; Behold, I, [even] I, will both search my sheep, and seek them out. **** http://www.bluelett erbible.org/kjv/Mat/Mat015.html#24

Eze 34:12 As a shepherd seeketh out his flock in the day that he is among his sheep [that are] scattered; so will I seek out my sheep, and will deliver them out of all places where they have been scattered in the cloudy and dark day.

Eze 34:13 And I will bring them out from the people, and gather them from the countries, and will bring them to their own land, and feed them upon the mountains of Israel by the rivers, and in all the inhabited places of the country.

Eze 34:14 I will feed them in a good pasture, and upon the high mountains of Israel shall their fold be: there shall they lie in a good fold, and [in] a fat pasture shall they feed upon the mountains of Israel.

Eze 34:15 I will feed my flock, and I will cause them to lie down, saith the Lord GOD.

Eze 34:16 I will seek that which was lost, and bring again that which was driven away, and will bind up [that which was] broken, and will strengthen that which was sick: but I will destroy the fat and the strong; I will feed them with judgment.

Eze 34:17 ¶ And [as for] you, O my flock, thus saith the Lord GOD; Behold, I judge between cattle and cattle, between the rams and the he goats.

Eze 34:18 [Seemeth it] a small thing unto you to have eaten up the good pasture, but ye must tread down with your feet the residue of your pastures? and to have drunk of the deep waters, but ye must foul the residue with your feet?

Eze 34:19 And [as for] my flock, they eat that which ye have trodden with your feet; and they drink that which ye have fouled with your feet.

Eze 34:20 ¶ Therefore thus saith the Lord GOD unto them; Behold, I, [even] I, will judge between the fat cattle and between the lean cattle.

Eze 34:21 Because ye have thrust with side and with shoulder, and pushed all the diseased with your horns, till ye have scattered them abroad;

Eze 34:22 Therefore will I save my flock, and they shall no more be a prey; and I will judge between cattle and cattle.

Eze 34:23 And I will set up one shepherd over them, and he shall feed them, [even] my servant David; he shall feed them, and he shall be their shepherd.

Eze 34:24 And I the LORD will be their God, and my servant David a prince among them; I the LORD have spoken [it].

Eze 34:25 ¶ And I will make with them a covenant of peace, and will cause the evil beasts to cease out of the land: and they shall dwell safely in the wilderness, and sleep in the woods.

Eze 34:26 And I will make them and the places round about my hill a blessing; and I will cause the shower to come down in his season; there shall be showers of blessing.

Eze 34:27 And the tree of the field shall yield her fruit, and the earth shall yield her increase, and they shall be safe in their land, and shall know that I [am] the LORD, when I have broken the bands of their yoke, and delivered them out of the hand of those that served themselves of them.

Eze 34:28 And they shall no more be a prey to the heathen, neither shall the beast of the land devour them; but they shall dwell safely, and none shall make [them] afraid.

Eze 34:29 And I will raise up for them a plant of renown, and they shall be no more consumed with hunger in the land, neither bear the shame of the heathen any more.

Eze 34:30 Thus shall they know that I the LORD their God [am] with them, and [that] they, [even] the house of Israel, [are] my people, saith the Lord GOD.

Eze 34:31 And ye my flock, the flock of my pasture, [are] men, [and] I [am] your God, saith the Lord GOD.

http://www.blueletter bible.org/tsk_b/Eze/34/11.html

Be sure to note the identity of the LOST SHEEP in John 10.

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Eze 34:13 And I will bring them out from the people, and gather them from the countries, and will bring them to their own land, and feed them upon the mountains of Israel by the rivers, and in all the inhabited places of the country.

CROSS AT CAPE HENRY http://www.nps.gov /archive/colo/capeheny/capeheny.html [Note also the usurpers: Cornwallis, George Washington et al and their "new nation"....Ezekiel 17:1-10/Matthew 15:13]

y'all are fighting a losing battle:

http://www.bluelet terbible.org/kjv/Psa/Psa002.html#top

AllTheKings'HorsesWontDoIt  posted on  2006-12-23   17:09:31 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#9. To: bluegrass (#4)

It's a long story.

The majority of elected officials aren't very bright, though many are quite cunning. They excel at getting elected.

That's OK...bore me. I know Virgil...been to his office a number of times and talked with the man at length about open borders, free trade, illegal aliens, the globalization of this country and the sell-outs in DC. Look at the mans voting record and get back to me as to why you think he's not very bright and only excels at getting re-elected.

Freedomsnotfree  posted on  2006-12-23   21:20:00 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#10. To: Freedomsnotfree (#9)

Look at the mans voting record and get back to me as to why you think he's not very bright and only excels at getting re-elected.

I wish Virgil would stand up to Jewish power on Capitol Hill as vociferously as he has to the scary Muslims.

bluegrass  posted on  2006-12-24   3:02:04 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#11. To: AllTheKings'HorsesWontDoIt (#6)

Some of these early charters are significant in pointing out the original intent of "fascists" (Massachusettes Bay Company, British East India Company) to establish a Christian Colony that was expected to route the "savages" ... some of these charters (contracts) are authorized by the "POPE" ! Others are authorized by the King as Protector of the Faith ... all are arrogant rantings of thugs claiming divine authority to rape, rob and pillage the earth with God's approval ... some of the same shit we see today !

"They say Justice is blind and I agree ... so much so that she hasn't found her way into a courtroom since 1938"

noone222 12-17-06

noone222  posted on  2006-12-24   6:49:40 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#12. To: noone222 (#11)

You probably know more about it than I do. I spent some time reading some of the Charters about a year ago. I suspect that the colonists at Jamestown were sincere in their endeavor. I also feel that they were the canaries sent down into the coal mine. Compare their charter and the Plymouth Charter. The latter, IMO, gave lip service to serving God, but set out a long list of material demands. I think there were a bunch of crypto-Jews in that crowd. Read their charter relinquishing their rights back to the [Jewish} Crown. Read between the lines, and you will see that the first colony exercised its rights to pursue all those who stood in the way of them accomplishing their intent to establish the gospel of Christ on these shores. All this led up to the contrived Revolutionary War, where a lot of people got killed, and all that was accomplished was that we lost our Charter under God, and were swept up into debt and slavery in George Washington's NWO. [GW was a "Jew" http://freedom4um.com/cgi- bin/readart.cgi?ArtNum=41888&Disp=20&Trace=on#C20 ].

See What About Those Pilgrims - the Pilgrim Society at http://watch.pair.com

Patrick Henry, one of the few true Christians among the so-called 'founding fathers" foresaw the situation we find ourselves in today:

last paragraph:

"....If your American chief be a man of ambition and abilities, how easy is it for him to render himself absolute! The army is in his hands, and if he be a man of address, it will be attached to him, and it will be the subject of long meditation with him to seize the first auspicious moment to accomplish his design, and, sir, will the American spirit solely relieve you when this happens? I would rather infinitely--and I am sure most of this Convention are of the same opinion--have a king, lords, and commons, than a government so replete with such insupportable evils. If we make a king we may prescribe the rules by which he shall rule his people, and interpose such checks as shall prevent him from infringing them; but the president, in the field, at the head of his army, can prescribe the terms on which he shall reign master, so far that it will puzzle any American ever to get his neck from under the galling yoke. I can not with patience think of this idea. If ever he violate the laws, one of two things will happen: he will come at the head of the army to carry everything before him, or he will give bail, or do what Mr. Chief Justice will order him. If he be guilty, will not the recollection of his crimes teach him to make one bold push for the American throne? Will not the immense difference between being master of everything and being ignominiously tried and punished powerfully excite him to make this bold push? But, sir, where is the existing force to punish him? Can he not, at the head of his army, beat down every opposition? Away with your president! we shall have a king: the army will salute him monarch; your militia will leave you, and assist in making him king, and fight against you: and what have you to oppose this force? What will then become of you and your rights? Will not absolute despotism ensue?...."

SHALL LIBERTY OR EMPIRE BE SOUGHT? - PATRICK HENRY

ouch!

Maybe he read Ezekiel 17:1-10, and put two and two together.

AllTheKings'HorsesWontDoIt  posted on  2006-12-24   9:35:23 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#13. To: noone222 (#11)

Eze 34:20 ¶ Therefore thus saith the Lord GOD unto them; Behold, I, [even] I, will judge between the fat cattle and between the lean cattle.

Eze 34:21 Because ye have thrust with side and with shoulder, and pushed all the diseased with your horns, till ye have scattered them abroad;

Eze 34:22 Therefore will I save my flock, and they shall no more be a prey; and I will judge between cattle and cattle.

Eze 34:23 And I will set up one shepherd over them, and he shall feed them, [even] my servant David; he shall feed them, and he shall be their shepherd.

Eze 34:24 And I the LORD will be their God, and my servant David a prince among them; I the LORD have spoken [it].

Eze 34:25 ¶ And I will make with them a covenant of peace, and will cause the evil beasts to cease out of the land: and they shall dwell safely in the wilderness, and sleep in the woods.

Eze 34:26 And I will make them and the places round about my hill a blessing; and I will cause the shower to come down in his season; there shall be showers of blessing.

Eze 34:27 And the tree of the field shall yield her fruit, and the earth shall yield her increase, and they shall be safe in their land, and shall know that I [am] the LORD, when I have broken the bands of their yoke, and delivered them out of the hand of those that served themselves of them.

http://www.blueletterbible.org/kjv/Gal/Gal003.html#29

Eze 34:28 And they shall no more be a prey to the heathen, neither shall the beast of the land devour them; but they shall dwell safely, and none shall make [them] afraid.

Eze 34:29 And I will raise up for them a plant of renown, and they shall be no more consumed with hunger in the land, neither bear the shame of the heathen any more.

Eze 34:30 Thus shall they know that I the LORD their God [am] with them, and [that] they, [even] the house of Israel, [are] my people, saith the Lord GOD.

Eze 34:31 And ye my flock, the flock of my pasture, [are] men, [and] I [am] your God, saith the Lord GOD.

AllTheKings'HorsesWontDoIt  posted on  2006-12-24   9:52:51 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#14. To: AllTheKings'HorsesWontDoIt (#13)

Ezekiel 37-38-39 ... describe the all out end of days attack upon "Israel" ... the enemies are described as descending from Japeth (Genesis 10:3) and they include among them the people we call Jews (Ashkenaz, Gomer, Togarmah Gog, Magog).

So "splain me this man" ... how do Israel be attacked by Jews ??? [This is a pretty good indicator that Israel ain't Jews !]

Also the description of Israel doesn't resemble what we consider the State of Israel but more accurately describes ... America.

"They say Justice is blind and I agree ... so much so that she hasn't found her way into a courtroom since 1938"

noone222 12-17-06

noone222  posted on  2006-12-24   10:15:34 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


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