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Title: Rothschilds and the Grail Bloodline
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Published: Dec 23, 2006
Author: David Livingstone
Post Date: 2006-12-23 11:35:29 by Zoroaster
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Illuminati Conspiracy Archive Rothschilds and the Grail Bloodline - by David Livingstone ©, Aug. 22nd, 2005 Jacob Rothschild, the current head of the Rothschild dynasty, has intermarried with the Sinclair family, forging an important alliance between the head family of the Illuminati, and the supposed descendants of the Grail family. As has been popularized recently by Dan Brown in the Da Vinci Code, or before him by the Holy Blood, Holy Grail, the Stuarts of Scotland are supposedly descended from King Arthur and Jesus Christ. These families are of course not descended from Jesus. The idea is preposterous. But they are related to the Holy Grail, and they are not Christians, but Kabbalists. In reality, they, like all the aristocratic bloodlines that form the core of the Illuminati, are descended from Guillaume de Gellone of the eighth century AD. Guillaume's father was Rabbi Makhir, among the Exilarchs who ruled the Jews in Baghdad, who was sent West after a dispute over the successorship. In France, he took the name Theodoric, married Alda, the aunt of Charlemagne, and was appointed “King of the Jews” in the region of the Languedoc, with his capital the city of Narbonne. Narbonne then became the heartland of the Medieval Kabbalah. The Kabbalists of Narbonne seem to have been responsible for instigating the Crusades, in order to retrieve sacred texts that had been buried there, but which had been unaccessible because of first the rule of the Romans, and then the Muslims. Once Jerusalem was conquered, a Kabbalistic order of knights known as the Templars conducted excavations, and discovered the text of the Sepher ha Bahir, which revived the lost mystical tradition, and set off the cultural revolution of the Medieval Kabbalah. Another aspect of the penetration of these Kabbalistic ideas was the heresy of the Cathars. The Cathar foothold was in the region of Tolouse, the bastion of the descendants of Guillaume, also known as the family of the Guilhemids, several of whom were ardent defenders of the heresy. However, the Cathars have been idealized by numerous Illuminati propagandists as having been innocent victims of Church persecutions, but the Cathars rejected the God of the Bible, in favour of the worship of Lucifer and practiced witchcraft. It was the Cathars who influenced the heretical aspects of the Templars, for which the order was disbanded in 1307. Part of this Kabbalistic revolution was the legends of the Holy Grail, which included Cathar and Templar themes, and formulated in the region of Aquitaine, another stronghold of the Guilhemids. The Holy Grail, or San Greal, should have been translated as Sang Real, or Royal Blood, because it referred to the sacred bloodline that supposedly issued from Guillaume de Gellone, and ultimately King David, but which in reality, was understood to represent the descendants of the Fallen Angels, and their leader, Lucifer. The Sinclairs were descendants of Guillaume de Gellone, through his great-great-granddaughter, Poppa of Bavaria, who married the Viking leader, Rollo Ragnvaldsson. Among Rollo's descendants was William the Conqueror of Normandy. The Sinclairs, or St. Clair, were given various other castles around France. However, they all went to England with the Conqueror. One Sinclair, though, named William, did not like the Conqueror, so with some other discontented barons, he went to Scotland and placed himself in the service of King Malcolm III of Scotland. Malcolm III King of Scotland was the father of David I "the Saint" King of Scotland. In 1128, soon after the Council of Troyes, Hugh de Payens, the Templars' first Grand Master, met with King David I of Scotland. King David later surrounded himself with Templars, and appointed them as "the Guardians of his morals by day and night". David married the grand-daughter of Lambert II, the brother of Godefroi de Bouillon, leader of the first crusade, and the sister of sister of William the Conqueror. Godefroi's younger brother, Eustace III, married David's sister, Mary Scots. Their daughter married Stephen I King of England, the son Adela de Normandie, the daughter of William the Conqueror. Adela's brother, Henry I King of England, married David's sister, Editha of Scotland. Their daughter, Mathilda Empress of England, married Geoffrey V, Comte d'Anjou, whose son Henry II married Eleanor of Aquitaine. King David granted Hugues and his knights the lands of Balantrodoch, by the Firth of Forth, but now renamed Temple, near the site of Rosslyn. And, legend has it that, when the Templars came under trial, their leader de Molay arranged for the Templar to return to Scotland, where they assisted Robert the Bruce at the Battle of Bannockburn. Robert the Bruce claimed the Scottish throne as a great-great-great-great grandson of David. Walter Stewart, the sixth High Steward of Scotland, also played an important part in the Battle of Bannockburn. Walter Stewart then married Majory, daughter of Robert the Bruce, and their son Robert II of Scotland was heir to the House of Bruce; he eventually inherited the Scottish throne after his uncle David II of Scotland died. In Scotland, the Templars served Robert the Bruce as members of the Scots Guard, of which two prominent families were those of the Stuarts and the Sinclairs. Henry Sinclair was a supporter of Robert the Bruce, and one of his descendants, William Sinclair, designed Rosslyn Chapel, a church in the village of Roslin, replete with occult symbolism, and believed to be one of the sites where the Grail might be buried. Finally, the Sinclairs became the Hereditary Grand Masters of the Masons of Scotland. After Queen Elizabeth died without an heir, she was succeeded by the son of Mary Queen of Scots, James Stewart I of England, also known as King James. It is for this reason that the Freemasons of the eighteenth century conspired to back the Stuart cause, after their last monarch, James II Stuart, King of England, was deposed, and replaced by William of Orange. The Stuart cause then became the essence of Scottish Rite Freemasonry, which regarded the Stuarts as the inheritors of the Templars, who had rescued the secret tradition of the East, otherwise known as the Kabbalah. Since the late eighteenth century, however, the Illuminati have come under the leadership of the Rothschild family. The founder of the dynasty, Mayer Amschel Rothschild, ordered his sons to marry only their first cousins, continuing the careful intermarrying practiced by their predecessors. However, the first exception was Hannah, the daughter of Amschel Mayer's son, the notorious Nathan Mayer Rothschild, who married the Rt. Hon. Henry Fitzroy, a direct descendant of Charles II Stuart King of England, the father of James II. More recently, however, is the great-great-great grandson of Nathan Mayer, Nathaniel Charles Jacob Rothschild, 4th Baron Rothschild, who married Mary Serena Dunn. The mother of Mary Serena was Lady Mary Sybil St. Clair-Erskine, who was the daughter of James Francis Harry St. Clair-Erskine, 5th Earl of Rosslyn. Jacob Rothschild is the current head of the UK Rothschild family, having inherited the fourth baronetcy from his father, Victor, an eminent zoologist, and sometime MI5 agent and friend of KGB agents Anthony Blunt and Guy Burgess. Jacob resigned from the family's bank NM Rothschilds in 1980, run by his cousin Evelyn, and started RIT Capital Partners. Jacob Rothschild resigned from the family's bank NM Rothschilds in 1980, run by his cousin Evelyn, and started RIT Capital Partners. He is chairman of Yad Hanadiv, the Rothschild foundation, which built and gave the Knesset government buildings and the Supreme Court to Israel, and chairs the Jewish Policy Research, dedicated to promoting issues affecting Jews worldwide. Jacob Rothschild is chairman of Yad Hanadiv, the Rothschild foundation, which chairs the Jewish Policy Research, dedicated to promoting issues affecting Jews worldwide. Yad Hanadiv was also responsible for building and granting the Knesset government buildings, and the Supreme Court of Israel, which prominently features Masonic symbolism and the pyramid and all-seeing eye of the Illuminati. Jacob Rothschild was a close personal friend of the Princess Diana, and maintains strong personal and business links with Henry Kissinger. He knows Rupert Murdoch well, having been friends since the Australian newspaper proprietor first came to the UK in the 1960s. His country estate has been a regular venue for visiting heads of state including Presidents Ronald Reagan and Bill Clinton. Margaret Thatcher received French President François Mitterrand there at a summit in 1990. He hosted the European Economic Round Table conference in 2002, attended by such figures as James Wolfensohn, president of the World Bank, Nicky Oppenheimer, Warren Buffet and Arnold Schwarzenegger. About the Author David Livingstone is an historian who lives in Montreal, Canada. He is the author of The Dying God: The Hidden History of Western Civilization.
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#1. To: Zoroaster (#0)
Diana didn't have a chance.
"The illegal we do immediately. The unconstitutional takes a little longer." It's an easy bet that there's more Stuart blood in America than in all of the UK.
"The illegal we do immediately. The unconstitutional takes a little longer." The holy grail was full of piss if that's where these people came from. The LIE that these fuckers were descended from Christ has been their so called mandate to rule the world. Shit, I can lie and say I am Jesus's re-incarnated disciple, and worthy of ruling the world too. The difference is, I don't have a network of collusional elements to help me acheive that goal. The ruling elite were aided and abetted by the churches, and the churches were also helped by the elite. To think for one fucking minute that it wasn't all a scam is to be deluded at best.
Jacob Rothschild was a close personal friend of the Princess Diana, and maintains strong personal and business links with Henry Kissinger.
---Henry Kissinger, New York Times, October 28, 1973
#2. To: All (#1)
In Scotland, the Templars served Robert the Bruce as members of the Scots Guard, of which two prominent families were those of the Stuarts and the Sinclairs. Henry Sinclair was a supporter of Robert the Bruce, and one of his descendants, William Sinclair, designed Rosslyn Chapel, a church in the village of Roslin, replete with occult symbolism, and believed to be one of the sites where the Grail might be buried. Finally, the Sinclairs became the Hereditary Grand Masters of the Masons of Scotland.
---Henry Kissinger, New York Times, October 28, 1973
#3. To: Zoroaster (#0)
 | This country's priorities are all fucked up. |
#4. To: robin (#2)
I've read the Bush family's ancestry includes Robert the Bruce. They are also related to British royalty through an illegitiimate offrspring of Charles I. And, of course, Bushie the Elder and Barbara are distant cousins through Franklin Pierce, the 14th President of the US. And you must be aware of the rumors that Pauline Pierce, Barbara Bush's mother, was impregnateded by Alister Crowley, a Satanist. Genghis W. Bush may be a low-level demon.
Life is a tragedy to those who feel, and a comedy to those who think.
#5. To: Zoroaster (#4)
I've read about the Alister Crowley connection and it has a certain appeal. Regarding 'The Royal We' it is important to understand that most people alive today with UK/European ancestry are more than likely distantly related to the likes of Charlemagne and royalty. It is no great feat. It is about numbers and time. http://www.tiedtothetracks.com/storytelling/archives/000337.htm http://www.gly.uga.edu/railsback/GenealComp1.html The Bush Family is nothing special, except they are so evil.
"The illegal we do immediately. The unconstitutional takes a little longer."
---Henry Kissinger, New York Times, October 28, 1973
#6. To: TommyTheMadArtist, Zoroaster (#3)
The LIE that these fuckers were descended from Christ has been their so called mandate to rule the world. wow, Tommy, you and I can agree on THAT! we probably won't agree on the following, though, which is the Biblical view. I was just discussing this with my future son-in-law the other night..... Christ's seed and ruling heirs emanates from the prophecies, in part, of Isaiah 53 [which I hear the Pharisees never read in the SINagogue]. It says: Isaiah 53:8 He was taken from prison and from judgment: AND WHO SHALL DECLARE HIS GENERATION? FOR HE WAS CUT OFF OUT OF THE LAND OF THE LIVING FOR THE TRANSGRESSION OF MY PEOPLE WAS HE STRICKEN....10 Yet it pleased the LORD to bruise him; he hath put him to grief: WHEN THOU SHALT MAKE HIS SOUL AN OFFERING FOR SIN, HE SHALL SEE HIS SEED, he shall prolong his days, And the pleasure of the LORD shall my righteous servant justify many: For he shall bear their iniquities...... By this standard, and as explained further in Galatians 3:16-29, and by Revelation 5:9-10, people such as the Ethiopian eunuch of Acts 8:26- 39 [and since my computer is overloaded and I don't feel like typing it, folks will have to look these up], HAVE THE DIVINE RIGHT TO RULE. Antichrist and Lucifer-worshipping folks need not apply for the job, according to God. ================================ continuing with a comment I started a few days ago: As has been popularized recently by Dan Brown in the Da Vinci Code, or before him by the Holy Blood, Holy Grail, the Stuarts of Scotland are supposedly descended from King Arthur and Jesus Christ. These families are of course not descended from Jesus. The idea is preposterous. But they are related to the Holy Grail, and they are not Christians, but Kabbalists. The 'Jesus' Bloodline [heresy!!] :
I like the explanation here:
The 13 Illuminati Bloodlines
http://www.thewatcher >http://files.com/bloodlines/ind ex.htm
"....Actually, the entire 13 top families are related in various ways and their heritages go back to the ancient nobility of Europe, to the tribe of Dan, and to the Khazars. Many of these top families feel they are descendents of the House of David. One researcher has even told me that the royal house of Japan is blood relation to the thirteenth top Illuminati family. (Truth is often stranger than fiction, but this sounds truly incredible.) That would be interesting if the genealogy (which he claims does exist) does actually show that. It would help explain why Japan is being brought into the picture....."
http://www.thewatcherf iles.com/bloodlines/duyn.htm
In case you are interested in that angle:
WHO ARE
THE
JAPANESE? [??]
>http://asis.com/~stag/japanese.ht ml
Israelites Came to Ancient Japan [??]
"....Similarity between the biblical genealogy and Japanese mythology
And in the Japanese mythology, Yamasachi-hiko married a daughter of the sea god, and bore a child named Ugaya-fukiaezu. Ugaya-fukiaezu had 4 sons. But his second and third sons were gone to other places. The forth son is emperor Jinmu who conquers the land of Yamato. On this line is the Imperial House of Japan.
While, what is it in the Bible? Joseph married a daughter of a priest in Egypt, and bore Manasseh and Ephraim. Ephraim resembles Ugaya-fukiaezu in the sense that Ephraim had 4 sons, but his second and third sons were killed and died early (1 Chronicles 7:20-27), and a descendant from the forth son was Joshua who conquered the land of Canaan (the land of Israel). On the line of Ephraim is the Royal House of the Ten Tribes of Israel. Thus we find a remarkable similarity between the biblical genealogy and Japanese mythology - between Ninigi and Jacob, Yamasachi-hiko and Joseph, and the Imperial family of Japan and the tribe of Ephraim.
"....Furthermore, in the Japanese mythology, the heaven is called Hara of Takama (Takama-ga-hara or Takama-no-hara). Ninigi came from there and founded the Japanese nation. Concerning this Hara of Takama, Zen'ichirou Oyabe, a Japanase researcher, thought that this is the city Haran in the region of **** Togarmah where Jacob and his anscestors once lived; Jacob lived in Haran of Togarmah for a while, then came to Canaan and founded the Israeli nation. Jacob once saw in a dream the angels of God ascending and descending between the heaven and the earth (Genesis 28:12), when Jacob was given a promise of God that his descendants would inherit the land of Canaan. This was different from Ninigi's descending from heaven, but resembles it in image.
Thus, except for details, the outline of the Japanese mythology greatly resembles the records of the Bible. It is possible to think that the myths of Kojiki and Nihon-shoki, the Japanese chronicles written in the 8th century, were originally based on Biblical stories but later added with various pagan elements. Even it might be possible to think that the Japanese mythology was originally a kind of genealogy which showed that the Japanese are descendants from Jacob, Joseph, and Ephraim......"
>http://www5.ocn.ne.jp/~magi 9/isracame.htm
more on Togarmah and the Khazars here:
http://www.gods- kingdom.org/Birthright/Chapter15/Chapter15.htm
and also at The Thirteenth Tribe [at http://biblebelievers.org]
My computer is freezing up, or I'd look up that quote where the Jewish PTB said that the time would come when they would reveal their relations to Africa and Asia.
#7. To: AllTheKings'HorsesWontDoIt (#6)
wow, thanks for the bible verses and your comments. it is very provocative. maybe I should switch my tag-line to Galatians 3:29.
Ephesians 6:12 For we wrestle not against flesh and blood, but against principalities, against powers, against the rulers of the darkness of this world, against spiritual wickedness in high [places].
#8. To: Zoroaster, Burkeman1, Brian S, Christine, Honway, Robin, Aristeides, Diana, All (#0)
Somebody has their history wrong - by quite a margin. The "Illumaniti" died around 1785 & were never heard of again - except by irrational conspiracy types; extremely desperate for a villian to blame.
#9. To: Zoroaster, Burkeman1, Brian S, Christine, Honway, Robin, Aristeides, Diana, All (#4)
Alister Crowley was a Satanist? Did I miss something? He was one fucked-up dude, but I wasn't aware of his being a Satanist. Please correct me, if I missed something. {Did someone outlaw "truth," around this place?} ..... Alister Crowley, a Satanist.
#10. To: SKYDRIFTER (#9)
i don't know anything about Alister Crowley.
#11. To: SKYDRIFTER (#9)
http://goldismoney.info/forums/showthread.php?t=42297
Life is a tragedy to those who feel, and a comedy to those who think.
#12. To: Red Jones (#7)
Maybe we all should...then all those "anti-Semitic" laws they're passing would work in our favor. On the other hand, just finished reading your article on soy, and your current tag-line is very appropriate.
maybe I should switch my tag-line to Galatians 3:29.
#13. To: AllTheKings'HorsesWontDoIt, Red Jones (#12)
Every Baptist memorized this one in Sunday School. They either forgot it or someone twisted it for them later.
Gal 3:29 And if ye be Christ's, then are ye Abraham's seed, and heirs according to the promise. (KJV)
"The illegal we do immediately. The unconstitutional takes a little longer."
---Henry Kissinger, New York Times, October 28, 1973
#14. To: SKYDRIFTER, Zoroaster (#8)
The "Illumaniti" died around 1785 & were never heard of again - except by irrational conspiracy types; extremely desperate for a villian to blame. One "irrational conspiracy type" warned about them in the 1960's, has been dead quite a while, yet their planned WWIII he was talking seems to be coming true as he predicted. snake is a snake by any other name...... ".....our so-called leaders in Washington, who we elected to safeguard our nation and our Constitution, are the betrayers and that behind them are a comparatively small group of men whose sole-objective is to enslave the whole world of humanity in their satanic-plot of one-world government. "Now in order to give you a very clear picture of this satanic-plot, I will go back to its beginning, clear back in the middle of the 18th century and name the men who put that plot into action and then bring you down to the present - today's status of that plot. Now as a matter of further intelligence, a term used by the FBI, let me clarify the meaning of the expression "he is a liberal." The enemy, meaning the one-world conspirators, have seized upon that word "liberal" as a cover-up for their activities. It sounds so innocent and so humanitarian to be liberal. Well, make sure that the person who calls himself a liberal or is described as a liberal is not, in truth, a "red." "Now then, this satanic-plot was launched back in the 1760's when it first came into existence under the name "Illuminati." This Illuminati was organized by one Adam Weishaupt, born a Jew, who was converted to Catholicism and became a Catholic priest, and then, at the behest of the then newly- organized House of Rothschild, defected and organized the Illuminati. Naturally, the Rothschilds financed that operation and every war since then; beginning with the French Revolution; has been promoted by the Illuminati operating under various names and guises. I say under various names and guises because after the Illuminati was exposed and became notorious, Weishaupt and his co-conspirators began to operate under various other names. In the United States, immediately after World War I, they set up what they called the "Council on Foreign Relations," commonly referred to as the CFR, and this CFR is actually the Illuminati in the United States and its hierarchy. The masterminds in control of the original Illuminati conspirators, were foreigners, but to conceal that fact, most of them changed their original family names to American sounding names. For example, the true name of the Dillons, Clarence and Douglas Dillon (one Secretary of the U.S. Treasury Department), is Laposky. I'll come back to all this later. "There is a similar establishment of the Illuminati in England operating under the name of the "British Institute of International Affairs." (The Royal Institute of International Affairs, actually) There are similar secret Illuminati organizations in France, Germany, and other nations operating under different names and all these organizations, including the CFR, continuously set up numerous subsidiary or front-organizations that are infiltrated into every phase of the various nations' affairs. But at all times, the operations of these organizations were and are masterminded and controlled by the Internationalist Bankers, they in turn were and are controlled by the Rothschilds. (One of the prime agents in this control is through the International BAR Association and it's splinter groups such as the America BAR Association. It is important to note that there are BAR Associations in nearly every nation world wide now, pushing the United Nations.) As I have previously stressed, this enemy never quits; they simply decided to reorganize and try from scratch again. By this time Schiff was very old and slow. He knew it. He knew that the conspiracy needed a new younger and more active leadership. So on his orders; Colonel House and Bernard Barouk organized and set up what they called ****the "Council on Foreign Relations;" the new name under which the Illuminati would continue to function in the United States. The hierarchy, officers, and directors of the "CFR" is composed principally of descendants of the original Illuminati; many of whom had abandoned their old family name and acquired new Americanized names. For one example; we have Dillon, who was Secretary of Treasury of the United States, whose original name was Laposky. Another example is Pauley, head of the CBS TV channel, whose true name is Palinsky. The membership of the CFR is approximately 1,000 in number and contains the heads of virtually every industrial empire in America such as Blough, president of the U.S. Steel Corporation; Rockefeller, king of the oil industry; Henry Ford, II, and so on. And of course; all the international bankers. Also; the heads of the "tax-free" foundations are officers and/or active CFR members. In short; all the men who provided the money and the influence to elect the CFR chosen Presidents of the United States, the Congressmen, the Senators, and who decide the appointments of our various Secretaries of State, of the Treasury, of every important federal agency are members of the CFR and they are very obedient members indeed.........." THE ILLUMINATI AND THE COUNCIL ON FOREIGN RELATIONS by Myron Fagan [recorded in the 1960's] http://usa-the- republic.com/illuminati/cfr_1.html "As you read this keep in mind that most writers use the word Illuminati because they are afraid to use the word Jew. Now there are agents of the Illuminati (of the Jews) who are not Jewish, but nevertheless they might as well be because they do as they are told. Also keep in mind that although the Rothschilds are without doubt the most powerful of the Jewish families behind the move place Jews as the rulers of the world, that they are only a front, used by even more powerful forces behind them. They are the “Learned Elders of Zion,” and are taken from birth and trained to be a leader, they are taught all the secrets of the Jews and their actions for thousands of years. If along the way a child is found to be unfit mentally or physically then that child is killed and buried in an unmarked grave. Yet as powerful as the Rothschilds are the secret leaders, the “Learned Elders,” are never mentioned in any Jewish writings, or elsewhere. Their names are not mentioned by even the Rothschilds, who undoubtedly know them; and by the Rockefellers who without doubt know who they are, but they dare not even mention their names for to do so would mean certain death in just a matter of hours if not minutes. Yet no matter how secretative a group is, some information eventually comes out about them and in this case some information has escaped. The Jewish Cahilla: Outgrowing Palestine, capitalizing on all Jewish "persecutions," effectively carrying on the fight for Christian tolerance toward this scheming, predatory people, it began to adopt a world-wide aspect after the admirable maneuverings of the Mayer clan. Thus do we arrive at the impressive construction of the CAHILLA. Americans living in New York frequently hear of the Jews giving Cahilla parties in various city blocks, but that the Cahilla is a vast network of espionage and predatory activism for worldwide Jewry, and that it correlates the progress of the Jewish nationalists all over the earth, has only been authentically uncovered since the Boer War, mostly by British military and secret service agents. Try to grasp fully what now is to be disclosed. In the time of George Washington there were about 4,000 Jews in this country. Most of them were already well-to-do traders. In 1783 the United States became the first country to grant them full civil equality, and ever since then they have enjoyed political equality. Today there is said to be, taking the Jew's word for it, 18,000,000 Jews in the world, and about 4,400,000 of that number are in the United States, where they control 60 percent of the vital interests of our country (remember this was written in the 1930's). Taking the word of the military of the various countries, instead, however, it is probable that the figure of 23,000,000 Jews for the whole world is the more nearly accurate. Whether the true figure is 14,000,000 or 23,000,000, when the statement is made they are entirely effectively controlled by one International Organization, so constructed that one man rules it from the top, the information is labeled fantastic. But wait! Listen to what espionage agents of several countries have attested before responsible committees: "The Jews of the World divided the earth first into two hemispheres, the Eastern and the Western."............" http://www. israelect.com/reference/WillieMartin/Rothchild.htm
#15. To: robin (#13)
Being raised in a Missouri Synod Lutheran Church, youda thunk I would have heard it once or twice, as well. I musta skipped out those days [pretty possible; I was not good about going to church, but when I did, I heard the Jews were the 'chosen people'.] I had to stumble across it myself, while reading the Bible on my own a few years ago, and that was a big jumping-off point for me!
#16. To: SKYDRIFTER, Zoroaster (#14)
a snake is a snake by any other name...... Also keep in mind that although the Rothschilds are without doubt the most powerful of the Jewish families behind the move place Jews as the rulers of the world, that they are only a front, used by even more powerful forces behind them. They are the “Learned Elders of Zion,” and are taken from birth and trained to be a leader, they are taught all the secrets of the Jews and their actions for thousands of years. If along the way a child is found to be unfit mentally or physically then that child is killed and buried in an unmarked grave. Yet as powerful as the Rothschilds are the secret leaders, the “Learned Elders,” are never mentioned in any Jewish writings, or elsewhere. Their names are not mentioned by even the Rothschilds, who undoubtedly know them; and by the Rockefellers who without doubt know who they are, but they dare not even mention their names for to do so would mean certain death in just a matter of hours if not minutes. btw, The Lost Tribe of Dan. the text of the Protocols [of the Elders of Sion] ends with a single statement, 'Signed by the ... .the Symbolic Snake, by which we symbolize our people. ... http://www.watch.pair.com/dan.html -
#17. To: AllTheKings'HorsesWontDoIt, lodwick, Christine, Brian S, Honway, Robin, Aristeides, Red Jones, Diana, Kamala, All (#14)
I'm familiar with the blind accusations about the "Illuminati" - there is no viable proof, to date, that I've seen. Sure, the NWO elements are real; but they have no rational connection to the "Illuminati" of history. I've spent a lot of time looking for such a connection; I can't find anything worth talking about.
#18. To: AllTheKings'HorsesWontDoIt, lodwick, Christine, Brian S, Honway, Robin, Aristeides, Red Jones, Diana, Kamala, All (#16)
The "Protocols" are a well documented fake. Why even bring them up?
#19. To: SKYDRIFTER, Zoroaster (#18)
oh, only because like all the other diabolical writings, they fit what's happening in the world to a 't' "....Mr. Henry Ford, in an interview published in the New York WORLD, February 17th, 1921, put the case for Nilus tersely and convincingly thus: "The only statement I care to make about the PROTOCOLS is that they fit in with what is going on. They are sixteen years old, and they have fitted the world situation up to this time. THEY FIT IT NOW." ......" http://www.biblebelievers.or g.au/przion1.htm Anybody can read them and hear a hate-filled Satan behind them...the only question might be who he got to pen the words....who are the most antiChrist people in the world? [furthermore, they sound like the elders of Zion and Sion mentioned in the Bible - see Ezekiel 8 and 11, I think. Sion is Mount Hermon, and it is translated incorrectly sometimes in the King James Bible as Zion - see The Lost Tribe of Dan. One could make a study of Psalm 68:15 and 16 Why LEAP ye high hills....Does not say LEAP in Hebrew, at all, but ENVY/BE JEALOUS.] .....but you say what one what one would expect a 33rd degree Freemason to say...."always conceal, never reveal, the crimes of your fellow Mason." excerpt from a great article THE GREAT SEAL OF THE U.S. - ITS OCCULT MEANING - ".....Adam Weishaupt who was a professor at Ingolstadt University founded the Illuminati in Bavaria on May 1, 1776. Weishaupt recruited an inner circle of Masonic men that he felt would be receptive of his heresies and accepted them into the Illuminati. Weishaupt directed the Illuminati by means of the Masonic Lodge. Through these men Weishaupt created a Lodge within a Lodge dedicated to fulfilling his own agenda. This was accomplished even though some of the members of the Masonic Lodge were not aware of what was going on. Weishaupt was very successful in spreading his organization and on the roster of Illuminati members were very prominent and powerful people, such as professors, priests, counts, barons, lawyers, prominent businessmen and magistrates. The Basic doctrines and goals of the Illuminati can be summed up in six points. 1. Abolition of Monarchy and all ordered government 2. Abolition of private property 3. Abolition of inheritance 4. Abolition of patriotism 5. Abolition of the family (i.e. of marriage and all morality, and the institution of the communal education of children) 6. Abolition of all religion6 The world was alerted to the dangers of the Illuminati in 1785, by a profound act of God. An evangelist preacher and Illuminatus named Lanze had been sent in July 1785 as an emissary of the Illuminati to Silesia, but on his journey he was struck down by lightning. The instructions of the order were found on him, and as a result its intrigues were conclusively revealed the government of Bavaria.7 This fateful event started an investigation by the Bavarian government that led to the complete exposure of the Illuminati: A collection of original papers and correspondence was found by searching the house of one Zwack (a member) in 1786. The following year a much larger collection was found at the house of Baron Bassus; and since that time Baron Knigge, the most active member next to Weishaupt, published an account of some of the higher degrees, which had been formed by himself.8 When the horseman was struck down while transporting plans and documents on his way to France, the investigation that followed uncovered the diabolical intent of the Illuminati to overthrow government and religion so clearly that the Bavarian government felt compelled to warn all of Europe. The attempt of the Bavarian government to warn other European governments is on historical record in an official document entitled Original Writings of the Order and Sect of the Illuminati. Four years after lightning struck the horseman, the French Revolution rocked Europe.9 The first document published by the Bavarian government in 1787, was followed by a second one later that year, and a third in 1794. All these consist in the correspondence and papers of the Order which were seized by the Bavarian Government at the houses of two of the members, Zwack and Bassus, and published by order of the Elector. The authenticity of these documents has never been denied even by the Illuminati themselves; Weishaupt, in his published defense, endeavored only to explain away the most incriminating passages. The publishers moreover, were careful to state at the beginning of the first volume: "Those who might have any doubts on the authenticity of this collection may present themselves at the Secret Archives here, where, on request, the original documents will be laid before them." This precaution rendered all dispute impossible.10 When the Illuminati was exposed by the government of Bavaria, Adam Weishaupt was forced to leave the country, but he had done his work well and his plans had advanced too far to be stopped. Weishaupt started his movement as a rebel organization within the Masonic Lodge without the blessing or consent of Masonry in the beginning. By the year 1782, the Illuminati had grown to over three million members worldwide and was in control of the lodges throughout Europe. They were now in a position to force the Masonic Lodge to give them official recognition. This took place at the congress of Wilhelmsbad in 1782. This fact can be documented from Masonic sources. A quote from the much loved Masonic source, Mackey's Revised Encyclopedia of Freemasonry under the article, "Wilhelmsbad, Congress of," proves the point. At Wilhelmsbad, near the city of Hanau in Hesse-Cassel, was held the most important Masonic congress of the eighteenth century....: but there were delegates from Upper and Lower Germany, from Holland, Russia, Italy, France, and Austria; and the order of the Illuminati was represented by the Baron Von Knigge. It is not therefore surprising that the most heterogeneous opinions were expressed.11 Considering the doctrines and goals of the Illuminati, which we have already stated, we might expect that the opinions expressed at the Wilhelmsbad conference were at the least heterogeneous. What had happened at Wilhelmsbad, much to the Masons disgrace, was that the Illuminati was now officially united with the mother organization. The Brittish Historian, Nesta H. Webster, recorded the testimony of a member of the Masonic Lodge concerning the Congress of Wilhelmsbad. But it was not until the Congress de Wilhelmsbad that the alliance between Illuminism and Freemasonry was finally sealed....What passed at this terrible Congress will never be known to the outside world, for even those men who had been drawn unwittingly into the movement, and now heard for the first time the real designs of the leaders, were under oath to reveal nothing. One such honest Freemason, the Comte de Virieu, a member of Martiniste Lodge at Lyons, returning from the Congre's de Wilhelmsbad could not conceal his alarm, and when questioned on the "tragic secrets" he had brought back with him, replied: "I will not confide them to you. I can only tell you that all this is very much more serious than you think. The conspiracy which is being woven is so well thought out that it will be, so to speak, impossible for the monarchy and the Church to escape from it." From this time onwards, says his biographer, M. Costa de Beauregard, "the Comte de Virieu could only speak of Freemasonry with horror."12 The depth of the error and perversion of the anti-Christ teaching of the Illuminati can be shown in a few brief quotes from the papers that the Bavarian government made public after their investigation. In one of these writings Weishaupt brags about how he subtly destroys Christianity in his priest's degree. One would almost imagine, that this degree, as I have managed it, is genuine Christianity, and that its end was to free the Jews from slavery. I say that Free Masonry is concealed Christianity. My explanation of the hieroglyphics, at least, proceeds on this supposition; and as I explain things, no man need be ashamed of being a Christian. Indeed I afterwards throw away this name, and substitute Reason.....You may think that this is my chief work; but I have three other degrees, all different, for my class of higher mysteries, in comparison with which this is but child's play;.....You can't imagine what respect and curiosity my priest-degree has raised; and, which is wonderful, a famous Protestant divine, who is now of the Order, is persuaded that the religion contained in it is the true sense of Christianity. 0 MAN, MAN! TO WHAT MAY'ST THOU NOT BE PERSUADED. Who would imagine that I was to be the founder of a new religion?13 Weishaupt felt personal satisfaction when he was able to deceive a Christian into believing his lies. But as you notice, not even occultists have any respect for Christians that are not true to their faith. They are only good to be used and made fun of behind their backs........." http://ritualabusefree.org/The%20Great%20Seal%20of%20the%20U.%20S.% 20-%20Its% 20Occult%20Meaning.htm "By Deception Thou Shalt Do War" See Judges 18:19. Before the Pharisees lurking inside a certain Biblical website got hold of it, it was revealed that this verse had a strong Kabbalah connection, and also implied initiation into secret societies. See The Lost Tribe of Dan.
The "Protocols" are a well documented fake. Why even bring them up?
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