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Published: Dec 29, 2006
Author: Sam Mathid
Post Date: 2006-12-29 11:21:09 by christine
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I buy gold (and silver) for one reason. That reason is that things are about to change. That was my conclusion in June of 2000 and I sense the approach of that change growing ever closer. I am not just talking about the usual economic reasons such as the gross debasement of fiat currencies around the world, or the insane levels of debt created with enthusiastic abandon by our shifty, self-serving politicians or the equally idiotic levels of private debt; neither am I talking about the sheer indifference and/or incompetence of our governing officials and their enthusiastic squandering of the vast taxes confiscated from the peasants who continue to work and create and produce despite all inducements to not do so. I am referring to the fact that Western civilisation is beset with a stupidity that is so rampant, so widespread and so ingrained that it cannot continue for much longer. 'Stupidity' is the opposite of 'smart' and both words can only exist in the context of survival in one form or another. We have drifted so far from survival as a race that we have placed survival itself at risk. How is it possible for people to not understand that rewarding the incompetent by the process of penalising the able will lead to greater incompetence? How is it possible to believe that punishing producers to reward non-producers will do anything but eventually and logically cause a total cessation of production? We live in a world where the mindless trilling of politicians and aging pop singers is regarded as the font of all wisdom; a world where some people really believe that the end is nigh because of global warming and that the government ought to spend itself billions of dollars even further into debt doing something about it… as if an organization that cannot deliver mail properly could save the world from a meteorological catastrophe. We live in a world where less than 50% of the workforce actually create wealth and who subsequently then have to support the more than 50% who do not; where private employers may no longer dictate the terms of employment to their own employees. A world where general practitioners who are trusted with nations' health are so ignorant of real causation, let alone healing, that it is usually safer not to go to them, and where psychiatrists drug human brains in crazed attempts to solve problems of the mind. At the same time as our governments have confiscated most of the financial benefits from the most major technological advance of the human race ever, they have managed via their daft social engineering schemes and outright corruption to simultaneously bankrupt western civilisation in the manner of tin-pot African dictators peeling the skins off banana republics. 'Follow the money' has justifiably become the mantra of the age as it is often the only way to find out what is really going on. To do so shows an alarming discrepancy between appearance and reality. The wide-eyed young street activists campaigning for action against global warming are, in a bizarre fact, the unwitting foot soldiers of the nuclear power industry. The white coated psychiatrists cosily posing as healers of the mind are in reality extraordinarily well paid salesmen for unscrupulous pharmaceutical companies. Pious, tax funded promoters of the war against hunger cover their dirty dollar tracks back to vast agri-business concerns like Monsanto who are the manufacturers and promoters of genetically and atomically modified foods which threaten to monopolise the world's food supply. We live in a world where new legislation banning something or other spews forth every week from our governing elite creating more and more criminals to the point where nothing, and I do mean NOTHING is not covered by some incomprehensibly complex piece of government legislation. The legislation is so obtuse that it is literally not possible to ever comply fully with any certainty even if one was so inclined. I was speaking with a policewoman a few years ago who told me that she tends to only socially mix with other members of the force. The reason? "Everyone always looks so guilty and uncomfortable when I tell them that I am a police officer. Everyone has done something that breaks the law." And that sums up the truth of the matter. Our governments have made criminals of all of us whilst allowing real criminals to roam free and easy on the streets. The constant promises of governments to end corruption and inequality and monopolies inevitably lead to greater corruption and greater inequality and greater monopolies and still people cannot see the obvious which is that government control is the problem, not the solution. It is as though the spirit of Walt Disney rules the western world and is producing a vast Road Runner fantasy whereby society can fall over steep cliffs and then pick itself up, dust itself off and carry on as though nothing had really happened. Well we are heading over a cliff, but society will not be able to pick itself up and dust itself off afterwards. Things are going to change big time when and after we reach the bottom. Survival is based upon making decisions that result in actions conducive to survival. Such decisions can only sanely be made at the level of the individual. Sometimes individuals get it wrong and suffer the consequences, so be it, but with governments taking over the decision making role you can be sure that those wrong calls will become institutionalised; and you can also be sure that there will be an awful lot of wrong calls. That is what has got us to where we are now. Heading down the path that we are currently treading it is a foregone conclusion that both personal and business initiative will cease to exist and that we will be reduced to the intellectual and economic level of Cuba or North Korea. In its ever more obsessive pursuit with saving our bodies our governments are killing our souls and in the process are reducing people to a level of apathy. Most people don't like it, but they don't feel that they can change anything. Is that a definition of apathy, or what leads to apathy? I'm not sure. Domestic turkeys don't have a high IQ and over the generations have had responsibility for their own survival bred out to the point that when born they have to be trained how to drink water by placing sparkling coloured marbles at the bottom of the water bowl for them to play with. Without this aid the poults (young turkeys) die of thirst. There is a similarity between these poults and the citizens of modern societies who rely on and trust governments to such a degree that they feel no personal responsibility for their own survival. To place that much faith in unaccountable governments is a sure recipe for non-survival. Because people start with a higher IQ than turkeys the process takes longer, but the result will eventually be the same. The poults actually have the advantage in that it is in the interests of the farmer to keep the turkeys alive… at least until Christmas. No such incentive exists for the politicians. Why would they really care whether you live or die unless it is some way affects their electoral standing? The survival traits of the human race are being bred out by a lazy illusion of permanent prosperity and safety brought about by wise and benevolent Great Nanny States. It is all madness. Of course it will come to an end. Eventually our apathetic tolerance of such foolishness will give way to anger which will quickly become rage. Change is on the way because we either change or we cease to exist as a civilisation. Our civilisation is like a dule of young turkeys who are in danger of losing their marbles. One day in the not too distant future I believe that gold and silver will be great investments; almost as good as a stockpile of baked beans.
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#205. To: Destro (#203)
But I do not want one, can't I be a good citizen with or without one??? Don't I have the constitutional right to chose whether or not I have to participate in a program that I don't need?
"Don't Steal, the government hates competition."
OK, so you give up.
"The desire to rule is the mother of heresies." -- St. John Chrysostom
You can only be a good citizen if you are INVOLVED - pro or con it does not mater - as long as it is INVOLVEMENT. Finally understand? To be a citizen means to be INVOLVED. If you are against something - AGITATE rather than disengage. I find agitators the best of citizens.
"The desire to rule is the mother of heresies." -- St. John Chrysostom
I can live according to the constitution with or without a SSN, I have that right. So why do I need one to be a good citizen???
"Don't Steal, the government hates competition."
Finally understand? To be a citizen means to be INVOLVED. If you are against something - AGITATE rather than disengage. But I am against having a SSN, I don't have to start a war over it, all I have to do is fill out a form and disassociate myself from the number. Why can't I be a good, involved citizen without that number???
"Don't Steal, the government hates competition."
You tell 'em! Maybe now Bush admin will straighten up and fly right.
sometimes there just aren't enough belgians
Good for you - since I never brought up the SS system not I - I will say that you did right by you. Your statement regarding SS# has nothing to do with my statement as far as I can tell so I can't really see how you brought it up.
"The desire to rule is the mother of heresies." -- St. John Chrysostom
Because to folk like neocon rats and commie drats, involvement means being forced to donate your MONEY to TheStateInc. It has nothing whatsoever to do with altruism, i.e. being a "good/involved" citizen. The politicowhores do not want us involved and they have proven it time and again. Get too involved and they'll report you to DHS Komrade,
In a time of universal deceit, telling the truth is a revolutionary act - - George Orwell I don't favor maintaining a standing army AT ALL. And I think that this system is too rotten to repair. Let it crash and let us start over anew.
Accepting used LP accounts and donations in cash.
Ahh, but you called me a retreater and a bad citizen for wanting to give up my SSN earlier in this very thread. You have all of the answers, WHY CAN'T I BE A GOOD CITIZEN WITHOUT PARTICIPATING IN A VOLUNTARY SYSTEM?
"Don't Steal, the government hates competition."
Lol. You manage to get in a good one a couple of times a year...
Accepting used LP accounts and donations in cash.
But I Don't Wanna donate!!! :P
"Don't Steal, the government hates competition."
Take your babble elsewhere, son. This is becoming a serious thread.
Accepting used LP accounts and donations in cash.
Shut the fuck up, it's more your fault, as an educated person, that this country is in the kung-fu grip of the international banking establishment than it is Joe Six Pack's. You are bright enough to realise that beer truck drivers play a vital role in the economy.
sometimes there just aren't enough belgians
I vote, but I have little control over who runs for office. Most people running for office do so for the wrong reasons, so it's a matter of voting for the least of the worst. The money being spent on these war adventures is going to break the back of this country, many people are not too hopeful because of that, and our elected officials are hellbent on continuing these destructive policies. I don't think there are a lot of these armed camps of survivalists you speak of, at least to my knowledge, I think the heyday for that was in the early 90s, though there will always be such groups and always have been.
I don't want to start a war over anything either, we've got enough of that.
How many people have Ponchy on Bozo now?
... and I like cyber f**k the males. -- Ponchy
No one has given me reason to keep records. What would something like that pay?
sometimes there just aren't enough belgians
I thought you knew everything.
... and I like cyber f**k the males. -- Ponchy
Triple digits yet?
... and I like cyber f**k the males. -- Ponchy
I never said I knew everything, and can't imagine anyone else saying I knew everything unless they were sometimes there just aren't enough belgians
I did? show me.
"The desire to rule is the mother of heresies." -- St. John Chrysostom
See if you can get Ponchy to bozo himself. Maybe he will vanish.
... and I like cyber f**k the males. -- Ponchy
I have a plan...
sometimes there just aren't enough belgians
Bullshit. I only analogised the skill level of the two groups, and you can't deny that as far as any group of people go, the hill folks have some of the least love for government around. Most all of the rebellious types the government has ever had to put up with have haled from there, and they've been the receptors of some of it's most egregious violations (TVA and Shenandoah Park to name two). My family has been in the area since around 1720. In their particular location, the community still had a requirement that able bodied men between 16 and something like 50 (I don't have the book handy) be equipped to fall out and repair creek and river fords and crossings up to the 1930's because there were no bridges built there til then. Anyway, I believe we're picking nits...
"pound pastrami, can kraut, six bagels – bring home for Emma"
And the solution is not to live in the woods eating bark waiting for the corrupt system to collapse - because it won't. When the Roman republic fell into one man rule/despotism did the system collapse or did it find a new form of existence? You think starving the Feds of taxes will stop them? Hell, they will do what the Athenians and Romans did - ask their allies for donations for the protection of the empire - and when that revenue stream runs out then you incorporate more nations into the empire and make them pay taxes and so on.
"The desire to rule is the mother of heresies." -- St. John Chrysostom
And again I tells you this ain't the people I am talking about - especially since these people of yours seem to incorporate a community activism. They are not waiting (and doing nothing to prevent it) for the collapse of the American system so they can start over again. That is the classical survivalist thesis that I am addressing.
"The desire to rule is the mother of heresies." -- St. John Chrysostom
Destro, much of their "poverty" stems from the fact that they've historically desired strongly to be left alone. That's a hell of a political/social movement, albeit undefined, in todays world...
"pound pastrami, can kraut, six bagels – bring home for Emma"
It's now taking 70+ years of Jewshit for Russia to TRY to recover...maybe we need some hard Russian winters to steady the mind and body? How's about a big fuck you on some survivalist theory.
I was in a situation once where just that happened (in a temporary and micro way) A six pack of hot caffine free Diet Pepsi's were going for $20 bucks.
What should we be afraid of this week? The Islamofascist under the bed or the commie in the broom closet?
... and I like cyber f**k the males. -- Ponchy
I did? show me. Since you forgot what it is that you have said, or how to look back and read for yourself.... For starters, I would like to apologize for my delayed response. Do to my job, I am often away from home for a couple of days at a time. This is also the reason that there are times where I must reply to several of your posts at once, as I will be doing here. There you go again putting words into my mouth - I was simply trying to show you how ridiculous your statement appeared to the reader. Survivalist is a specific type of person/movement - surviving the Great Depression is not being a 'Survivalist'. In your world, maybe every thing can be so narrowly defined. In the real world it is not so. As inniway showed you in his reply to you, survival, survivalism, survivalist, and survive all take root meaning in the ability to survive. No where in any of those definitions did it say anything about running, retreating, or that someone who "survived" the Great Depression was unworthy of the term survivalist. You, yourself pulled up wikipidia's definition of survivalism which reads as follows: A survivalist is a person who anticipates and prepares for a future disruption in local, regional or worldwide social or political order. Survivalists often prepare for this anticipated disruption by learning skills (e.g., emergency medical training), stockpiling food and water, or building structures that will help them to survive (e.g., an underground shelter). The specific preparations made by survivalists depend on the nature of the anticipated disruption, some of the most commonly anticipated being: 1. Natural disasters, such as tornadoes, hurricanes, earthquakes, blizzards, and severe thunderstorms 2. A disaster brought about by the activities of humankind: chemical spills, release of radioactive materials, or war. 3. General collapse of society, resulting from the unavailability of electricity, fuel, food, and water. 4. Widespread chaos, or some other apocalyptic event. May I point out that in your own reference "survivalism" include the practice of being prepared for an event, even one such as a natural disaster. I am taking for granted here that we can both agree that a "survivalist" is someone who practices survivalism. In preparing for a natural disaster, food shortage, and other such events, a survivalist would have no need, and I doubt any desire to "retreat" nor need for a "militia mentality". A survivalist who practices survivalism does not require the readiness nor desire to retreat or kill. Where did I write being an active community member leads to your doom? Here is the comment you made that I facetiously replied to in order to illustrate how ridiculously ignorant your posts may seem to the reader, no matter how perfectly they make sense to you: No. Survivalists are drop outs aka 'retreaters'* If my only chance of surviving an event is to drop out or retreat, I would far rather become a statistic. In my humble opinion, I believe that there would be a lesser chance of surviving such an event if you respond by leaving shelter and stores of food behind for the sake of running. And lastly, if being a drop-out or a retreater has anything to do with being a survivalist, hence practicing the ability to survive, I must be blind, because I fail the see that they are unfailingly intertwined. Granted, I do understand, that in your narrow point of view (as Randge stated, looking through a toilet paper tube, calling it a telescope...) that because some survivalists had retreated in the past, and even labeled themselves as retreater's, you are now convinced that the word survivalist shall now be replaced by retreater forever, no argument, and no one else's view is welcome. I have to beg to differ, many people posses survivalist ability, but some people of this fiber also tend to retreat. Some people of this fiber have a militia mentality. I simply wish to clarify that not all of us plan nor desire to retreat, neither do all of us have the militia mentality. Granted, some of the survivalists have both. Also here are a few more quotes from you that I would like to address: I am saying that not resisting a corrupted fascist political system is being a bad citizen. I consider resistance as a form of participation as well as continuing working within the corrupt system in an attempt to change it. I don't consider 'dropping out' a form of resistance nor do I consider it an act of 'civitas' - though I understand why some do. I don't consider the 'survivalist-retreater' philosophy and behavior indicative of good participatory citizenship. How are they good citizens? Being a citizen entails a mutual relationship between the citizen and the city-state. There is one form of "retreat" that I condone %100. That is retreat from the system that is wrongfully and unlawful abusing the citizens that have been faithfully following. The longer people blindly slave for our government, the more of our rights that are forfeited. When you hold a Social (in)Security card, you hold a taxpayer identification number which obliges you to adhere to a tax code that not even law. The system originally began as a voluntary benefit program. Take it or leave it, but if you desire retirement benefits, you sign up, get a card, pay in all your life and then get some benefits back when you are old. Don't get me wrong, I am not against the idea, I appreciate that the government cares enough to offer assistance in retirement planning. But this program has gotten blown way out of proportion. The program is still voluntary, you can walk in to any Social Security office and request the form to withdraw yourself from it(or even download it online), and relinquish any and all money that you have paid in, and give up your association to that number. But thanks to further illegal legislation, if you choose to not participate in this voluntary program, you have a miserable time trying to find work, you cannot obtain a drivers license, you cannot hook up a telephone, internet, or any bank accounts or many other things that you need this number for. Hmmm, does not sound very voluntary to me. Granted, you can still get out of the system, but not without making your life difficult. Here is where I do condone one form of retreating. If more and more people were to disassociate themselves from this voluntary program (I believe that it may take hundreds of thousands for this to happen,I am not holding my breath), and deal with a few hardships for a while, then the government would eventually see that they cannot continue to keep the country in this daily increasing strangle hold that we are currently in. Now this is not necessarily retreating from society. It is standing up for your rights in a very noticeable manner and peacefully requiring the government to make legislative changes. What makes this system an issue for some, is that the Lord describes many times in the statues that he requires his people to live by strict liability. Also the the constitution and the bill of rights both allow for religious free exercise. Essentially, the God expects us to be liable for our own choices, and the government allows for us the worship as we wish, but if we choose to not participate in Social Security our lives become very difficult. This in my opinion, is very conflicting. But pulling out of the system does not mean that you are a poor citizen, in fact it tends to bring citizens (at least of the local community) closer together. Employers have to appreciate their employees enough to pay cash and lose some of their normal tax deductions, employees work harder in appreciation of the employer paying cash, and knowing the difficulty of finding a job, if paid my check, the employee has to rely on local merchants to cash it for them as they cannot obtain a bank account, also, for private work done, barter becomes far more common, your grocer, bar, or gas station may even accept silver as payment when you do not have cash available. You can dispute all of the above as much as you wish, but the above situation is not hypothetical. In my local community this is fact. I do know a couple of people that do not participate in Social Security, and it has caused them to become better and more productive citizens, and because they work so much harder and are so much more appreciative of being hired to work, those in the community that are still tied to Social Security and such are much more willing to help these people trade as needed. As a matter of fact, in the near future, I will be giving up my social security number as well. Unfortunately I do have a few small debts to clear up before this can happen. This is not an easy choice for me. I am a truck driver, and I really enjoy my job, but there is no way I can hold a CDL (or any other class of drivers license) without a Social Security number. I am not delusional, I do not believe that my giving up my SSN will necessarily change legislation, but do to the fact that participating in this program conflicts with what know from the Bible, I can not continue on in good conscience since I have learned that Social Security is a voluntary program. "Don't Steal, the government hates competition." ladybug posted on 2007-01-04 20:28:57 ET Reply Trace Private Reply #122. To: ladybug (#121) very well articulated. christine posted on 2007-01-04 21:15:14 ET Reply Trace Private Reply #123. To: christine (#122) very well articulated. *blush* Well thank you. My post is nothing more than my simple feelings. Moreover, being that I am prepared to survive, I do not appreciate when survivalists are being labeled as retreaters. Also, I do not feel that you should have to be a slave to be a good citizen. To participate in programs that you do not desire or need just so that you can enjoy your God given rights, which the government has labeled as "privileges" should never be tolerated. I do feel that anyone who is fed up with the system must know that getting out of it is an option, though it can make life more difficult. This option of getting out of the system is the best way I can see to stand up to the tyranny that is steadily overtaking our country, even though in small numbers, this will have no impact. In this day and age you can write letters to all of the politicians that you can find addresses to until both of your hands fall off, and yet nothing will change. Peaceful, legal action, IMHO, is always best. But there are times when the tyranny has gone too far and force is required. Thank God we have not reached that point yet, but I fear that too many people will write letter's or just complain in internet forums until it is too late, that is their choice. "Don't Steal, the government hates competition." ladybug posted on 2007-01-04 23:25:42 ET Reply Trace Private Reply #124. To: ladybug (#121) There is one form of "retreat" that I condone %100. That is retreat from the system that is wrongfully and unlawful abusing the citizens that have been faithfully following. The longer people blindly slave for our government, the more of our rights that are forfeited. That is fine - but you can not call that being a good citizen. Which is the point you are avoiding I think. Take for example this article - you fear fiat money collapse. Instead of organizing to get the govt to follow the will of the majority and back the dollar with gold reserves you all engage in the alternative of hording gold as the alternative. Instead of trying to change the system you are dropping out of it - already admitting defeat. "The desire to rule is the mother of heresies." -- St. John Chrysostom Destro posted on 2007-01-05 9:19:13 ET Reply Trace Private Reply "Don't Steal, the government hates competition."
Hey manure-va, almost missed your post because you sent it to an unknown address. How is the sphincter and textile artist of imaginary history doing? You should be afraid of truth and justice this week.
The fact that you are incable of anyting above wingnut rage and obscenities tells me that you are a conservatvei Republican. I assume you also smoke cigarettes, most Freepers do. Must be hard on the heart being pissed off all the time. But go ahead and act like an animal, digust at your type is what got the Congress and Senate out of the hands of Cunningham, DeLay, Foley and the rest of your type. If you keep it up, you might give the Dems a super majority next election Now run along and bugger a little boy and take your Oxycontin like a good Republican.
... and I like cyber f**k the males. -- Ponchy
Oh my .... it's the crawling, cringing coward!!! What freedoms should we give up today to keep us safe from the vast gang of boogeymen you fear? How about freedom of speech? People then wouldn't be able to point out the dishonesty and incompetence of your God George W. Bush.
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You think this civilization is going to last forever? Humanity is either going up the technological ante or nuke itself back into the stone age. At the moment, I'm in wait-and-see mode. "When the Roman republic fell into one man rule/despotism did the system collapse or did it find a new form of existence?" Exactly. We are standing by, ready to assume control. Why will we succeed if the system collapses? Because we have the most ammunition and gasoline. "You think starving the Feds of taxes will stop them?" Not really.
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It's not my fault. It's not your fault. But it is their fault. Got it?
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Oh manure-va, that was so rich. Keep playing with your fat quarters and try to stay away from reading people because you stink at it, like manure-va always does. You are the one displaying anger, injecting your hate filled self into a reply not to you. You always reference little boys. Are you a fag playing as the female?
My statement "Instead of trying to change the system you are dropping out of it" does not deal with social security but with dropping out of political activism. I hope that cleared it up for you.
"The desire to rule is the mother of heresies." -- St. John Chrysostom
You don't do well out of the echo chamber do you? A fearful little bully like yourself isn't capable of anything beyond hate, anger and silly, childish insults. But that's true of most of the GOP/Freeper crowd isn't it? Thanks for demonstrating it to the board. Well, take and Oxycontin, ask Foley to find you a little friend and be secure in the knowledge that Rush would be proud of mindless little sheep like youself. Get back to me - you cowardly little name caller - when you're able to rise above your silly freeper consciousness and and Bush worship.
... and I like cyber f**k the males. -- Ponchy
Hmmmmm..... does it make the pathetic little cringing wingnut coward feel tough to beat up on a woman? You are a worthless cowardly worm arn't you. Better run, there is an Islamofascist behind you!!! Boo!!!
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Top • Page Up • Full Thread • Page Down • Bottom/LatestIt does not say you can't have one either. But the solution is not to go to the woods and run away but to try and get the law changed through the constitutional system.
#206. To: ladybug (#204)
#207. To: ladybug (#205)
But I do not want one, can't I be a good citizen with or without one???
#208. To: Destro (#206)
OK, so you give up.
#209. To: Destro (#207)
You can only be a good citizen if you are INVOLVED - pro or con it does not mater - as long as it is INVOLVEMENT.
#210. To: Destro (#201)
The solution is to elect people who know how to get things done. Maybe some Americans of the right wing should think less of surviving in some armed camp and elect men who don't spend this nation's wealth on the military but on public infrastructures.
#211. To: ladybug (#209)
#212. To: ladybug (#209)
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Why can't I be a good, involved citizen without that number???
Law Enforcement Against Prohibition
In a CorporoFascist capitalist society, there is no money in peace, freedom, or a healthy population, and therefore, no incentive to achieve these - - IndieTX
#213. To: Destro (#201)
#214. To: Destro (#211)
Good for you - since I never brought up the SS system not I - I will say that you did right by you.
#215. To: Dakmar (#200)
#216. To: IndieTX (#212)
Because to folk like neocon rats and commie drats, involvement means being forced to donate your MONEY to TheStateInc. It has nothing whatsoever to do with altruism, i.e. being a "good/involved" citizen. The politicowhores do not want us involved and they have proven it time and again. Get too involved and they'll report you to DHS Komrade, The time for working within a system that doesn't work is over. Revolution.
#217. To: Dakmar (#210)
#218. To: Redheadedstranger (#217)
#219. To: Destro (#201)
The solution is to elect people who know how to get things done. Maybe some Americans of the right wing should think less of surviving in some armed camp and elect men who don't spend this nation's wealth on the military but on public infrastructures.
#220. To: ladybug, Destro (#209)
But I am against having a SSN, I don't have to start a war over it, all I have to do is fill out a form and disassociate myself from the number.
#221. To: Dakmar (#218)
#222. To: Minerva (#221)
#223. To: Dakmar (#222)
#224. To: Redheadedstranger (#217)
#225. To: Minerva (#223)
using me for a patsy saying their prayers foreign spies.
#226. To: ladybug (#214)
Ahh, but you called me a retreater and a bad citizen for wanting to give up my SSN earlier in this very thread.
#227. To: Dakmar (#225)
#228. To: Minerva (#227)
#229. To: Destro (#134)
You are a willful self deceiver.
#230. To: IndieTX, Redheadedstranger (#212)
The politicowhores do not want us involved and they have proven it time and again.
#231. To: Axenolith (#229)
#232. To: Destro (#138)
Appalachian like poverty is not chosen by those people nor does it have a political rational - i.e. their poverty is not based on them wanting to belong to a political/social movement.
#233. To: Destro (#231)
“Yes, but is this good for Jews?"
#234. To: Destro (#6)
If there was a total melt down in our money economy then barter would be the way the system would work and you would be better off stocking cigarettes and bullets to trade for food than gold.
#235. To: It Is A Republican (#234)
#236. To: Destro (#226)
Ahh, but you called me a retreater and a bad citizen for wanting to give up my SSN earlier in this very thread.
#121. To: Destro (#92)
#237. To: Minerva (#235)
#238. To: It Is A Republican (#237)
Hey manure-va, almost missed your post because you sent it to an unknown address. How is the sphincter and textile artist of imaginary history doing? You should be afraid of truth and justice this week.
#239. To: It Is A Republic (#237)
#240. To: Destro (#230)
And the solution is not to live in the woods eating bark waiting for the corrupt system to collapse - because it won't.
#241. To: Dakmar (#218)
#242. To: Minerva (#238)
#243. To: ladybug (#236)
#244. To: It Is A Republic (#242)
Oh manure-va, that was so rich. Keep playing with your fat quarters and try to stay away from reading people because you stink at it, like manure-va always does. You are the one displaying anger, injecting your hate filled self into a reply not to you. You always reference little boys. Are you a fag playing as the female?
#245. To: It Is A Republic (#242)
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