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Title: Domestic Turkeys
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URL Source: http://www.gold-eagle.com/editorials_05/mathid122706.html
Published: Dec 29, 2006
Author: Sam Mathid
Post Date: 2006-12-29 11:21:09 by christine
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Views: 4036
Comments: 295

I buy gold (and silver) for one reason. That reason is that things are about to change. That was my conclusion in June of 2000 and I sense the approach of that change growing ever closer.

I am not just talking about the usual economic reasons such as the gross debasement of fiat currencies around the world, or the insane levels of debt created with enthusiastic abandon by our shifty, self-serving politicians or the equally idiotic levels of private debt; neither am I talking about the sheer indifference and/or incompetence of our governing officials and their enthusiastic squandering of the vast taxes confiscated from the peasants who continue to work and create and produce despite all inducements to not do so.

I am referring to the fact that Western civilisation is beset with a stupidity that is so rampant, so widespread and so ingrained that it cannot continue for much longer. 'Stupidity' is the opposite of 'smart' and both words can only exist in the context of survival in one form or another. We have drifted so far from survival as a race that we have placed survival itself at risk.

How is it possible for people to not understand that rewarding the incompetent by the process of penalising the able will lead to greater incompetence? How is it possible to believe that punishing producers to reward non-producers will do anything but eventually and logically cause a total cessation of production?

We live in a world where the mindless trilling of politicians and aging pop singers is regarded as the font of all wisdom; a world where some people really believe that the end is nigh because of global warming and that the government ought to spend itself billions of dollars even further into debt doing something about it… as if an organization that cannot deliver mail properly could save the world from a meteorological catastrophe. We live in a world where less than 50% of the workforce actually create wealth and who subsequently then have to support the more than 50% who do not; where private employers may no longer dictate the terms of employment to their own employees. A world where general practitioners who are trusted with nations' health are so ignorant of real causation, let alone healing, that it is usually safer not to go to them, and where psychiatrists drug human brains in crazed attempts to solve problems of the mind.

At the same time as our governments have confiscated most of the financial benefits from the most major technological advance of the human race ever, they have managed via their daft social engineering schemes and outright corruption to simultaneously bankrupt western civilisation in the manner of tin-pot African dictators peeling the skins off banana republics.

'Follow the money' has justifiably become the mantra of the age as it is often the only way to find out what is really going on. To do so shows an alarming discrepancy between appearance and reality. The wide-eyed young street activists campaigning for action against global warming are, in a bizarre fact, the unwitting foot soldiers of the nuclear power industry. The white coated psychiatrists cosily posing as healers of the mind are in reality extraordinarily well paid salesmen for unscrupulous pharmaceutical companies. Pious, tax funded promoters of the war against hunger cover their dirty dollar tracks back to vast agri-business concerns like Monsanto who are the manufacturers and promoters of genetically and atomically modified foods which threaten to monopolise the world's food supply.

We live in a world where new legislation banning something or other spews forth every week from our governing elite creating more and more criminals to the point where nothing, and I do mean NOTHING is not covered by some incomprehensibly complex piece of government legislation. The legislation is so obtuse that it is literally not possible to ever comply fully with any certainty even if one was so inclined.

I was speaking with a policewoman a few years ago who told me that she tends to only socially mix with other members of the force. The reason? "Everyone always looks so guilty and uncomfortable when I tell them that I am a police officer. Everyone has done something that breaks the law." And that sums up the truth of the matter. Our governments have made criminals of all of us whilst allowing real criminals to roam free and easy on the streets.

The constant promises of governments to end corruption and inequality and monopolies inevitably lead to greater corruption and greater inequality and greater monopolies and still people cannot see the obvious which is that government control is the problem, not the solution. It is as though the spirit of Walt Disney rules the western world and is producing a vast Road Runner fantasy whereby society can fall over steep cliffs and then pick itself up, dust itself off and carry on as though nothing had really happened. Well we are heading over a cliff, but society will not be able to pick itself up and dust itself off afterwards. Things are going to change big time when and after we reach the bottom.

Survival is based upon making decisions that result in actions conducive to survival. Such decisions can only sanely be made at the level of the individual. Sometimes individuals get it wrong and suffer the consequences, so be it, but with governments taking over the decision making role you can be sure that those wrong calls will become institutionalised; and you can also be sure that there will be an awful lot of wrong calls. That is what has got us to where we are now.

Heading down the path that we are currently treading it is a foregone conclusion that both personal and business initiative will cease to exist and that we will be reduced to the intellectual and economic level of Cuba or North Korea. In its ever more obsessive pursuit with saving our bodies our governments are killing our souls and in the process are reducing people to a level of apathy. Most people don't like it, but they don't feel that they can change anything. Is that a definition of apathy, or what leads to apathy? I'm not sure.

Domestic turkeys don't have a high IQ and over the generations have had responsibility for their own survival bred out to the point that when born they have to be trained how to drink water by placing sparkling coloured marbles at the bottom of the water bowl for them to play with. Without this aid the poults (young turkeys) die of thirst. There is a similarity between these poults and the citizens of modern societies who rely on and trust governments to such a degree that they feel no personal responsibility for their own survival.

To place that much faith in unaccountable governments is a sure recipe for non-survival. Because people start with a higher IQ than turkeys the process takes longer, but the result will eventually be the same. The poults actually have the advantage in that it is in the interests of the farmer to keep the turkeys alive… at least until Christmas. No such incentive exists for the politicians. Why would they really care whether you live or die unless it is some way affects their electoral standing? The survival traits of the human race are being bred out by a lazy illusion of permanent prosperity and safety brought about by wise and benevolent Great Nanny States. It is all madness.

Of course it will come to an end. Eventually our apathetic tolerance of such foolishness will give way to anger which will quickly become rage. Change is on the way because we either change or we cease to exist as a civilisation. Our civilisation is like a dule of young turkeys who are in danger of losing their marbles.

One day in the not too distant future I believe that gold and silver will be great investments; almost as good as a stockpile of baked beans.

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#222. To: Minerva (#221)

No one has given me reason to keep records. What would something like that pay?

sometimes there just aren't enough belgians

Dakmar  posted on  2007-01-16   22:40:21 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#223. To: Dakmar (#222)

I thought you knew everything.

... and I like cyber f**k the males. -- Ponchy

Minerva  posted on  2007-01-16   22:44:11 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#224. To: Redheadedstranger (#217)

Triple digits yet?

... and I like cyber f**k the males. -- Ponchy

Minerva  posted on  2007-01-16   22:44:52 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#225. To: Minerva (#223)

I never said I knew everything, and can't imagine anyone else saying I knew everything unless they were using me for a patsy saying their prayers foreign spies.

sometimes there just aren't enough belgians

Dakmar  posted on  2007-01-16   22:48:34 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#226. To: ladybug (#214)

Ahh, but you called me a retreater and a bad citizen for wanting to give up my SSN earlier in this very thread.

I did? show me.

"The desire to rule is the mother of heresies." -- St. John Chrysostom

Destro  posted on  2007-01-16   22:51:47 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#227. To: Dakmar (#225)

See if you can get Ponchy to bozo himself. Maybe he will vanish.

... and I like cyber f**k the males. -- Ponchy

Minerva  posted on  2007-01-16   22:53:46 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#228. To: Minerva (#227)

I have a plan...

sometimes there just aren't enough belgians

Dakmar  posted on  2007-01-16   22:56:11 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#229. To: Destro (#134)

You are a willful self deceiver.

Bullshit. I only analogised the skill level of the two groups, and you can't deny that as far as any group of people go, the hill folks have some of the least love for government around. Most all of the rebellious types the government has ever had to put up with have haled from there, and they've been the receptors of some of it's most egregious violations (TVA and Shenandoah Park to name two).

My family has been in the area since around 1720. In their particular location, the community still had a requirement that able bodied men between 16 and something like 50 (I don't have the book handy) be equipped to fall out and repair creek and river fords and crossings up to the 1930's because there were no bridges built there til then.

Anyway, I believe we're picking nits...

"pound pastrami, can kraut, six bagels – bring home for Emma"

Axenolith  posted on  2007-01-16   22:57:32 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#230. To: IndieTX, Redheadedstranger (#212)

The politicowhores do not want us involved and they have proven it time and again.

And the solution is not to live in the woods eating bark waiting for the corrupt system to collapse - because it won't.

When the Roman republic fell into one man rule/despotism did the system collapse or did it find a new form of existence?

You think starving the Feds of taxes will stop them? Hell, they will do what the Athenians and Romans did - ask their allies for donations for the protection of the empire - and when that revenue stream runs out then you incorporate more nations into the empire and make them pay taxes and so on.

"The desire to rule is the mother of heresies." -- St. John Chrysostom

Destro  posted on  2007-01-16   22:58:06 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#231. To: Axenolith (#229)

And again I tells you this ain't the people I am talking about - especially since these people of yours seem to incorporate a community activism.

They are not waiting (and doing nothing to prevent it) for the collapse of the American system so they can start over again.

That is the classical survivalist thesis that I am addressing.

"The desire to rule is the mother of heresies." -- St. John Chrysostom

Destro  posted on  2007-01-16   23:00:59 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#232. To: Destro (#138)

Appalachian like poverty is not chosen by those people nor does it have a political rational - i.e. their poverty is not based on them wanting to belong to a political/social movement.

Destro, much of their "poverty" stems from the fact that they've historically desired strongly to be left alone. That's a hell of a political/social movement, albeit undefined, in todays world...

"pound pastrami, can kraut, six bagels – bring home for Emma"

Axenolith  posted on  2007-01-16   23:04:44 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#233. To: Destro (#231)

It's now taking 70+ years of Jewshit for Russia to TRY to recover...maybe we need some hard Russian winters to steady the mind and body? How's about a big fuck you on some survivalist theory.

“Yes, but is this good for Jews?"

Eoghan  posted on  2007-01-16   23:09:37 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#234. To: Destro (#6)

If there was a total melt down in our money economy then barter would be the way the system would work and you would be better off stocking cigarettes and bullets to trade for food than gold.

I was in a situation once where just that happened (in a temporary and micro way) A six pack of hot caffine free Diet Pepsi's were going for $20 bucks.

It Is A Republic  posted on  2007-01-16   23:09:44 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#235. To: It Is A Republican (#234)

What should we be afraid of this week? The Islamofascist under the bed or the commie in the broom closet?

... and I like cyber f**k the males. -- Ponchy

Minerva  posted on  2007-01-16   23:14:02 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#236. To: Destro (#226)

Ahh, but you called me a retreater and a bad citizen for wanting to give up my SSN earlier in this very thread.

I did? show me.

Since you forgot what it is that you have said, or how to look back and read for yourself....

"Don't Steal, the government hates competition."

ladybug  posted on  2007-01-17   1:21:27 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#237. To: Minerva (#235)

Hey manure-va, almost missed your post because you sent it to an unknown address. How is the sphincter and textile artist of imaginary history doing? You should be afraid of truth and justice this week.

It Is A Republic  posted on  2007-01-17   11:41:29 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#238. To: It Is A Republican (#237)

Hey manure-va, almost missed your post because you sent it to an unknown address. How is the sphincter and textile artist of imaginary history doing? You should be afraid of truth and justice this week.

The fact that you are incable of anyting above wingnut rage and obscenities tells me that you are a conservatvei Republican. I assume you also smoke cigarettes, most Freepers do.

Must be hard on the heart being pissed off all the time.

But go ahead and act like an animal, digust at your type is what got the Congress and Senate out of the hands of Cunningham, DeLay, Foley and the rest of your type. If you keep it up, you might give the Dems a super majority next election

Now run along and bugger a little boy and take your Oxycontin like a good Republican.

... and I like cyber f**k the males. -- Ponchy

Minerva  posted on  2007-01-17   12:05:35 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#239. To: It Is A Republic (#237)

Oh my .... it's the crawling, cringing coward!!!

What freedoms should we give up today to keep us safe from the vast gang of boogeymen you fear?

How about freedom of speech? People then wouldn't be able to point out the dishonesty and incompetence of your God George W. Bush.

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...  posted on  2007-01-17   12:11:42 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#240. To: Destro (#230)

And the solution is not to live in the woods eating bark waiting for the corrupt system to collapse - because it won't.

You think this civilization is going to last forever? Humanity is either going up the technological ante or nuke itself back into the stone age. At the moment, I'm in wait-and-see mode.

"When the Roman republic fell into one man rule/despotism did the system collapse or did it find a new form of existence?"

Exactly. We are standing by, ready to assume control. Why will we succeed if the system collapses? Because we have the most ammunition and gasoline.

"You think starving the Feds of taxes will stop them?"

Not really.

Accepting used LP accounts and donations in cash.

Redheadedstranger  posted on  2007-01-17   14:54:54 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#241. To: Dakmar (#218)

It's not my fault. It's not your fault. But it is their fault.

Got it?

Accepting used LP accounts and donations in cash.

Redheadedstranger  posted on  2007-01-17   14:57:01 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#242. To: Minerva (#238)

Oh manure-va, that was so rich. Keep playing with your fat quarters and try to stay away from reading people because you stink at it, like manure-va always does. You are the one displaying anger, injecting your hate filled self into a reply not to you. You always reference little boys. Are you a fag playing as the female?

It Is A Republic  posted on  2007-01-17   15:09:38 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#243. To: ladybug (#236)

My statement "Instead of trying to change the system you are dropping out of it" does not deal with social security but with dropping out of political activism.

I hope that cleared it up for you.

"The desire to rule is the mother of heresies." -- St. John Chrysostom

Destro  posted on  2007-01-17   15:15:44 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#244. To: It Is A Republic (#242)

Oh manure-va, that was so rich. Keep playing with your fat quarters and try to stay away from reading people because you stink at it, like manure-va always does. You are the one displaying anger, injecting your hate filled self into a reply not to you. You always reference little boys. Are you a fag playing as the female?

You don't do well out of the echo chamber do you? A fearful little bully like yourself isn't capable of anything beyond hate, anger and silly, childish insults. But that's true of most of the GOP/Freeper crowd isn't it? Thanks for demonstrating it to the board.

Well, take and Oxycontin, ask Foley to find you a little friend and be secure in the knowledge that Rush would be proud of mindless little sheep like youself.

Get back to me - you cowardly little name caller - when you're able to rise above your silly freeper consciousness and and Bush worship.

... and I like cyber f**k the males. -- Ponchy

Minerva  posted on  2007-01-17   15:22:37 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#245. To: It Is A Republic (#242)

Hmmmmm..... does it make the pathetic little cringing wingnut coward feel tough to beat up on a woman?

You are a worthless cowardly worm arn't you.

Better run, there is an Islamofascist behind you!!! Boo!!!

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...  posted on  2007-01-17   15:27:03 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#246. To: Minerva (#244)

Typical liberal BS from a liberal loser.

It Is A Republic  posted on  2007-01-17   15:27:24 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#247. To: Redheadedstranger (#240)

You think this civilization is going to last forever?

So I assume you are waiting for the end of this Republic?

How long did Rome last after the Republic fell? 500 years? If you count Byzantine Eastern Rome then another thousand years.

"The desire to rule is the mother of heresies." -- St. John Chrysostom

Destro  posted on  2007-01-17   15:30:01 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#248. To: It Is A Republic (#246)

Typical liberal BS from a liberal loser.

You can always tell when you hit the nail right on the head with a freeper kook, they try to change the subject with a silly and lame personal insult ---- like you just did.

LOL!!

Gotcha!!

And thanks for admitting it.

... and I like cyber f**k the males. -- Ponchy

Minerva  posted on  2007-01-17   15:31:12 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#249. To: Redheadedstranger (#240)

Exactly. We are standing by, ready to assume control. Why will we succeed if the system collapses? Because we have the most ammunition and gasoline.

That is a fantasy. The Republic fell but not the legions.

If this republic falls we won't degenerate into a Mad Max nation - and the Pentagon will stay around and either run things or run things for the oligarchs who will take over.

Your gas and ammunition reserves are a joke compared to what even a post republic American system can muster.

"The desire to rule is the mother of heresies." -- St. John Chrysostom

Destro  posted on  2007-01-17   15:32:14 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#250. To: It Is A Republic (#246)

Why don't you try calling people 'Clintonistas'?

That's what I do when I don't have anything to back up my bullshit.

BAC  posted on  2007-01-17   15:33:22 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#251. To: It Is A Republic (#246)

Why don't you go post your spew on Daily Kos? They would have a ball with a knuckle dragger like you.

... and I like cyber f**k the males. -- Ponchy

Minerva  posted on  2007-01-17   15:38:22 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#252. To: Minerva (#244)

You don't do well out of the echo chamber do you? A fearful little bully like yourself isn't capable of anything beyond hate, anger and silly, childish insults. But that's true of most of the GOP/Freeper crowd isn't it? Thanks for demonstrating it to the board.

Yup - I see freeper type of echo chamber closed mind thinking here even among anti-Bush right wingers. Though they are not on Freerepublic they have that freeper mind think.

Where did this type of closed loop mind think originate for the right wing? what inspired it? I am a right winger per say but I recoil at what the movement has become.

"The desire to rule is the mother of heresies." -- St. John Chrysostom

Destro  posted on  2007-01-17   15:38:55 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#253. To: ... (#245)

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It Is A Republic  posted on  2007-01-17   15:40:18 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#254. To: Redheadedstranger (#241)

It's not my fault. It's not your fault. But it is their fault.

Ponchy, at some level it's probably your fault.

... and I like cyber f**k the males. -- Ponchy

Minerva  posted on  2007-01-17   15:40:42 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#255. To: It Is A Republic (#253) (Edited)

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May be candid here? You are a real dork.

... and I like cyber f**k the males. -- Ponchy

Minerva  posted on  2007-01-17   15:41:38 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#256. To: Destro (#247)

The US won't have official lifetime dictators. That simply isn't going to happen. But the Republic is dead and has been dead since FDR's adminstration. And the US will never have a Roman or British type empire. No one will. It just can't be done that way in the modern age. But the US has had one for quite a while characterized by rule by proxy thugs and corrupt elites whose "Independence" is in name only. Given the acceleration of time due to technology- I would say the US is entering it's late imperial stage- of overstretch. 500 years? Hardly. The US seems to be going through all the stages of ancient empires in a 5th of the time.

The only thing that has changed since the days of the Roman Empire is the popularization of "liberty"- wether it be expressed in forms of national sovereignty or individual freedom- no one will tolerate a government of direct colonization any longer. Empire has to be masked in some form of "liberation" rhetoric. That is all that has changed. There is a great emphasis on bullshit, lies, and spin to mask what are essentially age old sins of states- conquest and tribute. The honesty of ancient times is quite refreshing as compared to the modern age.

Burkeman1  posted on  2007-01-17   15:42:30 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#257. To: Minerva (#248)

you gotcha nothing sphincter mouth.....

It Is A Republic  posted on  2007-01-17   15:44:02 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#258. To: Destro (#252)

You have to really look for people who disagree with Paul Craig Roberts or Buchanan. When Buchanan stuff goes up on Daily Kos the people always say that they hate him but they have to agree with this one thing that he says - no matter how many times his stuff goes up.

There is a big difference between these guys and Limbaugh, Bush and Hannity.

I think AM Radio ruined the GOP. It just got too easy to lie for a while there and this turned the major players into an army of bullshitters -- like IIAR is today. The few remaining honest ones are respected - maybe grudgingly, but still respected -- almost everywhere.

... and I like cyber f**k the males. -- Ponchy

Minerva  posted on  2007-01-17   15:48:28 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#259. To: It Is A Republic (#257)

you gotcha nothing sphincter mouth.....

My limited little knuckle dragger, please get back to me when you are capable of something beyond tossing out insults like a freeper or a 9 year old. Until then, take your oxy and have Ted Haggard hook you up with a nice little boy.

... and I like cyber f**k the males. -- Ponchy

Minerva  posted on  2007-01-17   15:51:32 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#260. To: It Is A Republic (#253)

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I don't want to sound like a broken record, but you are a real dork.

In addition to being a cowardly little worm.

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...  posted on  2007-01-17   15:53:26 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#261. To: Minerva (#259)

well you know the drill, when in Rome..........

It Is A Republic  posted on  2007-01-17   15:53:56 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#262. To: ... (#260)

ouch!!! as compared to a heroic worm or brave worm?

It Is A Republic  posted on  2007-01-17   15:57:26 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  



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