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Title: Domestic Turkeys
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URL Source: http://www.gold-eagle.com/editorials_05/mathid122706.html
Published: Dec 29, 2006
Author: Sam Mathid
Post Date: 2006-12-29 11:21:09 by christine
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Views: 4001
Comments: 295

I buy gold (and silver) for one reason. That reason is that things are about to change. That was my conclusion in June of 2000 and I sense the approach of that change growing ever closer.

I am not just talking about the usual economic reasons such as the gross debasement of fiat currencies around the world, or the insane levels of debt created with enthusiastic abandon by our shifty, self-serving politicians or the equally idiotic levels of private debt; neither am I talking about the sheer indifference and/or incompetence of our governing officials and their enthusiastic squandering of the vast taxes confiscated from the peasants who continue to work and create and produce despite all inducements to not do so.

I am referring to the fact that Western civilisation is beset with a stupidity that is so rampant, so widespread and so ingrained that it cannot continue for much longer. 'Stupidity' is the opposite of 'smart' and both words can only exist in the context of survival in one form or another. We have drifted so far from survival as a race that we have placed survival itself at risk.

How is it possible for people to not understand that rewarding the incompetent by the process of penalising the able will lead to greater incompetence? How is it possible to believe that punishing producers to reward non-producers will do anything but eventually and logically cause a total cessation of production?

We live in a world where the mindless trilling of politicians and aging pop singers is regarded as the font of all wisdom; a world where some people really believe that the end is nigh because of global warming and that the government ought to spend itself billions of dollars even further into debt doing something about it… as if an organization that cannot deliver mail properly could save the world from a meteorological catastrophe. We live in a world where less than 50% of the workforce actually create wealth and who subsequently then have to support the more than 50% who do not; where private employers may no longer dictate the terms of employment to their own employees. A world where general practitioners who are trusted with nations' health are so ignorant of real causation, let alone healing, that it is usually safer not to go to them, and where psychiatrists drug human brains in crazed attempts to solve problems of the mind.

At the same time as our governments have confiscated most of the financial benefits from the most major technological advance of the human race ever, they have managed via their daft social engineering schemes and outright corruption to simultaneously bankrupt western civilisation in the manner of tin-pot African dictators peeling the skins off banana republics.

'Follow the money' has justifiably become the mantra of the age as it is often the only way to find out what is really going on. To do so shows an alarming discrepancy between appearance and reality. The wide-eyed young street activists campaigning for action against global warming are, in a bizarre fact, the unwitting foot soldiers of the nuclear power industry. The white coated psychiatrists cosily posing as healers of the mind are in reality extraordinarily well paid salesmen for unscrupulous pharmaceutical companies. Pious, tax funded promoters of the war against hunger cover their dirty dollar tracks back to vast agri-business concerns like Monsanto who are the manufacturers and promoters of genetically and atomically modified foods which threaten to monopolise the world's food supply.

We live in a world where new legislation banning something or other spews forth every week from our governing elite creating more and more criminals to the point where nothing, and I do mean NOTHING is not covered by some incomprehensibly complex piece of government legislation. The legislation is so obtuse that it is literally not possible to ever comply fully with any certainty even if one was so inclined.

I was speaking with a policewoman a few years ago who told me that she tends to only socially mix with other members of the force. The reason? "Everyone always looks so guilty and uncomfortable when I tell them that I am a police officer. Everyone has done something that breaks the law." And that sums up the truth of the matter. Our governments have made criminals of all of us whilst allowing real criminals to roam free and easy on the streets.

The constant promises of governments to end corruption and inequality and monopolies inevitably lead to greater corruption and greater inequality and greater monopolies and still people cannot see the obvious which is that government control is the problem, not the solution. It is as though the spirit of Walt Disney rules the western world and is producing a vast Road Runner fantasy whereby society can fall over steep cliffs and then pick itself up, dust itself off and carry on as though nothing had really happened. Well we are heading over a cliff, but society will not be able to pick itself up and dust itself off afterwards. Things are going to change big time when and after we reach the bottom.

Survival is based upon making decisions that result in actions conducive to survival. Such decisions can only sanely be made at the level of the individual. Sometimes individuals get it wrong and suffer the consequences, so be it, but with governments taking over the decision making role you can be sure that those wrong calls will become institutionalised; and you can also be sure that there will be an awful lot of wrong calls. That is what has got us to where we are now.

Heading down the path that we are currently treading it is a foregone conclusion that both personal and business initiative will cease to exist and that we will be reduced to the intellectual and economic level of Cuba or North Korea. In its ever more obsessive pursuit with saving our bodies our governments are killing our souls and in the process are reducing people to a level of apathy. Most people don't like it, but they don't feel that they can change anything. Is that a definition of apathy, or what leads to apathy? I'm not sure.

Domestic turkeys don't have a high IQ and over the generations have had responsibility for their own survival bred out to the point that when born they have to be trained how to drink water by placing sparkling coloured marbles at the bottom of the water bowl for them to play with. Without this aid the poults (young turkeys) die of thirst. There is a similarity between these poults and the citizens of modern societies who rely on and trust governments to such a degree that they feel no personal responsibility for their own survival.

To place that much faith in unaccountable governments is a sure recipe for non-survival. Because people start with a higher IQ than turkeys the process takes longer, but the result will eventually be the same. The poults actually have the advantage in that it is in the interests of the farmer to keep the turkeys alive… at least until Christmas. No such incentive exists for the politicians. Why would they really care whether you live or die unless it is some way affects their electoral standing? The survival traits of the human race are being bred out by a lazy illusion of permanent prosperity and safety brought about by wise and benevolent Great Nanny States. It is all madness.

Of course it will come to an end. Eventually our apathetic tolerance of such foolishness will give way to anger which will quickly become rage. Change is on the way because we either change or we cease to exist as a civilisation. Our civilisation is like a dule of young turkeys who are in danger of losing their marbles.

One day in the not too distant future I believe that gold and silver will be great investments; almost as good as a stockpile of baked beans.

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#256. To: Destro (#247)

The US won't have official lifetime dictators. That simply isn't going to happen. But the Republic is dead and has been dead since FDR's adminstration. And the US will never have a Roman or British type empire. No one will. It just can't be done that way in the modern age. But the US has had one for quite a while characterized by rule by proxy thugs and corrupt elites whose "Independence" is in name only. Given the acceleration of time due to technology- I would say the US is entering it's late imperial stage- of overstretch. 500 years? Hardly. The US seems to be going through all the stages of ancient empires in a 5th of the time.

The only thing that has changed since the days of the Roman Empire is the popularization of "liberty"- wether it be expressed in forms of national sovereignty or individual freedom- no one will tolerate a government of direct colonization any longer. Empire has to be masked in some form of "liberation" rhetoric. That is all that has changed. There is a great emphasis on bullshit, lies, and spin to mask what are essentially age old sins of states- conquest and tribute. The honesty of ancient times is quite refreshing as compared to the modern age.

Burkeman1  posted on  2007-01-17   15:42:30 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#257. To: Minerva (#248)

you gotcha nothing sphincter mouth.....

It Is A Republic  posted on  2007-01-17   15:44:02 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#258. To: Destro (#252)

You have to really look for people who disagree with Paul Craig Roberts or Buchanan. When Buchanan stuff goes up on Daily Kos the people always say that they hate him but they have to agree with this one thing that he says - no matter how many times his stuff goes up.

There is a big difference between these guys and Limbaugh, Bush and Hannity.

I think AM Radio ruined the GOP. It just got too easy to lie for a while there and this turned the major players into an army of bullshitters -- like IIAR is today. The few remaining honest ones are respected - maybe grudgingly, but still respected -- almost everywhere.

... and I like cyber f**k the males. -- Ponchy

Minerva  posted on  2007-01-17   15:48:28 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#259. To: It Is A Republic (#257)

you gotcha nothing sphincter mouth.....

My limited little knuckle dragger, please get back to me when you are capable of something beyond tossing out insults like a freeper or a 9 year old. Until then, take your oxy and have Ted Haggard hook you up with a nice little boy.

... and I like cyber f**k the males. -- Ponchy

Minerva  posted on  2007-01-17   15:51:32 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#260. To: It Is A Republic (#253)

..-. ..- -.-. -.- -.-- --- ..- ... ... .... --- .-.. . .-.-.-

I don't want to sound like a broken record, but you are a real dork.

In addition to being a cowardly little worm.

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...  posted on  2007-01-17   15:53:26 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#261. To: Minerva (#259)

well you know the drill, when in Rome..........

It Is A Republic  posted on  2007-01-17   15:53:56 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#262. To: ... (#260)

ouch!!! as compared to a heroic worm or brave worm?

It Is A Republic  posted on  2007-01-17   15:57:26 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#263. To: It Is A Republic (#261)

well you know the drill, when in Rome........

But you would be exactly the same in Rome. You're incapable of being anything but a dolt. So quit telling us you're putting on an act. Your posting history tells us otherwise.

... and I like cyber f**k the males. -- Ponchy

Minerva  posted on  2007-01-17   15:58:13 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#264. To: Burkeman1 (#256)

I recall conversations we had where we both marveled at how America has been able to create a form of near - totalitarianism without any of the state terror apparatus that the Nazis or Soviets had in place and in fact can cloak this manipulation of the system so well we still think we are free when we are in fact enslaved.

Though it looks like the republic is going through every stage of empire I think we are in the phase pre crossing of the Rubicon with a corrupt republic allowing an adventurous elite to roam another land for conquest without any official oversight like was seen when Julius and his legions were in Gaul and on the British Isle.

"The desire to rule is the mother of heresies." -- St. John Chrysostom

Destro  posted on  2007-01-17   15:58:23 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#265. To: It Is A Republic (#262)

ouch!!! as compared to a heroic worm or brave worm?

People would respect you more if you would say something clever.

... and I like cyber f**k the males. -- Ponchy

Minerva  posted on  2007-01-17   15:59:15 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#266. To: ... (#245)

beat up on a woman?

Thats kind of like a guy who just killed his parents asking for mercy because he is an orphan isn't it????

It Is A Republic  posted on  2007-01-17   16:01:27 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#267. To: Minerva, burkeman1 (#258) (Edited)

You have to really look for people who disagree with Paul Craig Roberts or Buchanan. When Buchanan stuff goes up on Daily Kos the people always say that they hate him but they have to agree with this one thing that he says - no matter how many times his stuff goes up.

Daily Kos is the gold standard (I am not there as a poster) in terms of people posting thoughtful analysis.

That used to be how Freerepublic was in the first years until Bush was elected.

If Freerepublic was a country then I experianced what it would have been like to live in a Stalinist enviornment complete with group think and purges.

I want to read all sources, I want to have lively debates - I am open minded - I beg to be confronted and defend a position - through such a connvesation can arise the truth.

I never can understand the Freeper mind think that refuses to read contrary opinions - I don't mean debate contrary opinions - I mean refuse to even read an article unless it has that 'BARF!' tag - which makes it OK to read by the sheep.

"The desire to rule is the mother of heresies." -- St. John Chrysostom

Destro  posted on  2007-01-17   16:08:08 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#268. To: Minerva (#265)

most of what you impugn is only what you have implied or assigned yourself ........ respect from someone you do not respect is suspect ........ too bad your not as smart as you think ...........

It Is A Republic  posted on  2007-01-17   16:08:46 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#269. To: It Is A Republic (#266)

Thats kind of like a guy who just killed his parents asking for mercy because he is an orphan isn't it????

Not much too you is there. Where would you be without mindless name calling? If you think I'm wrong, find one post where you did anything but. You can't. That pretty much characterizes you.

Now prove me right and come back with another bit of juvenile drool.

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...  posted on  2007-01-17   16:10:43 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#270. To: ... (#260)

-. --- .-- / -.-- --- ..- / .... .- ...- . / -- . / .- - / .- / -- --- .- . ... . / -.-. --- -.. . / - .-. .- -. ... .-.. .- - --- .-. / ... .. - .

LOL

http://morsecode.scphillips.com/cgi-bin/morse.cgi

Fred Mertz  posted on  2007-01-17   16:10:43 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#271. To: ... (#269)

Not much too you is there. Where would you be without mindless name calling? If you think I'm wrong, find one post where you did anything but. You can't. That pretty much characterizes you.

look at #234 where I simply agreed with a point Destro made ...... then manure- va jumped in with her narrow minded silliness .......... then you obviously decided she was losing and needed help and jumped in ....... then ask who is the worm, dork, or whatever ......... are you a PETA member too?????

It Is A Republic  posted on  2007-01-17   16:28:17 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#272. To: It Is A Republic (#268)

most of what you impugn is only what you have implied or assigned yourself ........ respect from someone you do not respect is suspect ........ too bad your not as smart as you think ...........

are --- ((you!!)) .... byeltsin??

... and I like cyber f**k the males. -- Ponchy

Minerva  posted on  2007-01-17   16:30:00 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#273. To: It Is A Republic (#234)

A six pack of hot caffine free Diet Pepsi's were going for $20 bucks.

now i'm curious. what was the situation where hot diet pepsi would be in such high demand?

christine  posted on  2007-01-17   16:54:37 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#274. To: Fred Mertz (#270)

You mis-spelled Morse as 'MOAESE.' (Remember I know IMC from the U.S. Army. (You have an extra space in your 'R' making it an 'A' and an 'E'.) ;-D

"We seek a free flow of information... a nation that is afraid to let its people judge the truth and falsehood in an open market is a nation afraid of its people." --JFK, Feb 1962

Ferret Mike  posted on  2007-01-17   17:05:15 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#275. To: Ferret Mike (#274)

"now you have me at a morse code translator site" in Morse code is:

I didn't - the translator did. I just copied and pasted the result to the text I input.

Fred Mertz  posted on  2007-01-17   17:09:19 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#276. To: Minerva (#272)

Why 'It is a Republic's' dogs walk funny

"We seek a free flow of information... a nation that is afraid to let its people judge the truth and falsehood in an open market is a nation afraid of its people." --JFK, Feb 1962

Ferret Mike  posted on  2007-01-17   17:12:29 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#277. To: Fred Mertz (#275) (Edited)

--- -.-/ .. --- ---/ .- -.-. -.-. . .--. -/ - .... .- - ;-)

"We seek a free flow of information... a nation that is afraid to let its people judge the truth and falsehood in an open market is a nation afraid of its people." --JFK, Feb 1962

Ferret Mike  posted on  2007-01-17   17:14:23 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#278. To: christine (#273)

midnight, darker than jet black ........ international waters ........... big storm ........ small cruise ship .......... lots of tossing and rolling ........ broken fuel line, diesel leak spraying onto hot engines, fire, .......... drifted 3 days with no power and nothing fresh .......... serving crew knew they were soon out of a job and were stealing selling and looking out for themselves (thats where the $20 bucks a six pack hot caffeine free diet pepsi's took place) .......... we were told something about International Law prevented evacuation ........... "Lord of the Flies" came to mind ............. all passengers separated into groups ......... lounge lizzards, deck ducks, roof rats ......... every group protected their stuff and themselves against the others ........ got our money back and another free cruise .......... ruined us as a cruise without a fire is just plain dull

It Is A Republic  posted on  2007-01-17   17:19:02 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#279. To: It Is A Republic (#278)

Peyote solidities of halls ..... backyard green tree cemetery dawns ..... wine drunkenness over the rooftops ...... storefront boroughs of teahead joyride neon blinking traffic light ..... sun and moon and tree vibrations in the roaring winter dusks of Brooklyn ...... ashcan rantings and kind king light of mind ...... who chained themselves to subways for the endless ride from Battery to holy Bronx on benzedrine ...... until the noise of wheels and children brought them down shuddering ...... mouth-wracked and battered bleak of brain ..... all drained of brilliance in the drear light of Zoo

... and I like cyber f**k the males. -- Ponchy

Minerva  posted on  2007-01-17   17:30:06 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#280. To: Destro (#243)

My statement "Instead of trying to change the system you are dropping out of it" does not deal with social security but with dropping out of political activism

But I never said or implied that I wished in any way to drop out of the political system.

"Don't Steal, the government hates competition."

ladybug  posted on  2007-01-17   18:44:36 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#281. To: Destro (#249)

Your gas and ammunition reserves are a joke compared to what even a post republic American system can muster.

Lol. Witness Iraq. Witness the New Orleans debacle last year. In combat the average American citizen-rifleman is equal to any trained soldier in the world. If the republic falls I do agree with you that the Pentagon and the oligarchs will immediately seize large areas of land, on the east and west coasts, and Florida...maybe Texas too.

But the heartland will not fall. You'd be amazed at what the rural yokels can do if they get riled from their stupor.

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Redheadedstranger  posted on  2007-01-17   18:54:08 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#282. To: Minerva (#279)

Peyote solidities of halls ..... backyard green tree cemetery dawns ..... wine drunkenness over the rooftops ...... storefront boroughs of teahead joyride neon blinking traffic light ..... sun and moon and tree vibrations in the roaring winter dusks of Brooklyn ...... ashcan rantings and kind king light of mind ...... who chained themselves to subways for the endless ride from Battery to holy Bronx on benzedrine ...... until the noise of wheels and children brought them down shuddering ...... mouth-wracked and battered bleak of brain ..... all drained of brilliance in the drear light of Zoo

Fitting that you would quote a pedophile when addressing our local RNC shill.

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SmokinOPs  posted on  2007-01-17   19:12:39 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#283. To: It Is A Republic (#278)

wow, that was some experience. it is reminiscent of LOTF.

christine  posted on  2007-01-17   19:33:19 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#284. To: ladybug (#280)

But I never said or implied that I wished in any way to drop out of the political system.

Then you are a loon who wasted time and bandwidth.

"The desire to rule is the mother of heresies." -- St. John Chrysostom

Destro  posted on  2007-01-17   20:41:40 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#285. To: Redheadedstranger (#281) (Edited)

Lol. Witness Iraq. Witness the New Orleans debacle last year. In combat the average American citizen-rifleman is equal to any trained soldier in the world.

Until his fat ass has to hump a klik.

If the Southern youngbloods did not resort to guerrilla warfare back when he could live in the woods with little problem I doubt this generation of fat assed couch sitting Americans will.

In addition the insurgents in Iraq have allies in neighboring nations - who will arm this fictional American insurgency? And unlike Iraq they have no problems in manpower drawing power here if need be (use of police, etc.).

Se excuse me while I laugh at your 'Red Dawn' like fantasies.

"The desire to rule is the mother of heresies." -- St. John Chrysostom

Destro  posted on  2007-01-17   20:46:51 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#286. To: Destro (#285)

Until his fat ass has to hump a klik.

Why should he have to "hump a klik?" The man is defending his county not his country. Also, obesity among younger, red state males is over-rated. We're talking about deer hunters, ex-military guys, and blue collar laborers.

"If the Southern youngbloods did not resort to guerrilla warfare back when he could live in the woods with little problem I doubt this generation of fat assed couch sitting Americans will."

We're not talking about fat, sissified meterosexuals from New York, here. We're talking about about mid-western and southern rural blue-collar hicks.

"In addition the insurgents in Iraq have allies in neighboring nations - who will arm this fictional American insurgency?"

We're armed, already.

"Se excuse me while I laugh at your 'Red Dawn' like fantasies."

Laugh away. It probably won't happen...but it could...very easily.

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Redheadedstranger  posted on  2007-01-17   21:47:37 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#287. To: Destro (#284)

you are a loon who wasted time and bandwidth.

Yes, you are, you accuse people of being whatever you and your GI Joe buddy would like them to be in your fairy tale world instead of taking time to read what they post!

"Don't Steal, the government hates competition."

ladybug  posted on  2007-01-17   23:31:22 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#288. To: Redheadedstranger (#286)

We're not talking about fat, sissified meterosexuals from New York, here.

Those are transplants from so called Red States and mostly live in Manhattan - native New Yorkers are more akin to Tony Soprano.

"The desire to rule is the mother of heresies." -- St. John Chrysostom

Destro  posted on  2007-01-18   9:32:54 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#289. To: ladybug (#287)

You just wasted a conversation based on something I did not write down and you did not understand.

Thanks for nothing.

"The desire to rule is the mother of heresies." -- St. John Chrysostom

Destro  posted on  2007-01-18   9:33:50 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#290. To: Redheadedstranger (#286)

Laugh away.

I am laughing - - 'Wolverines!!!'

"The desire to rule is the mother of heresies." -- St. John Chrysostom

Destro  posted on  2007-01-18   9:35:31 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#291. To: Destro (#288)

native New Yorkers are more akin to Tony Soprano.

Who wouldn't last a day south of the Mason-Dixon line.

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Redheadedstranger  posted on  2007-01-18   10:54:52 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#292. To: Redheadedstranger (#291)

Who wouldn't last a day south of the Mason-Dixon line.

Oh, you mean the land that lost the Civil War?

"The desire to rule is the mother of heresies." -- St. John Chrysostom

Destro  posted on  2007-01-18   11:00:51 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#293. To: Destro (#292)

That's the one.

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Redheadedstranger  posted on  2007-01-18   12:58:26 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#294. To: Destro (#289)

Yup.

"Don't Steal, the government hates competition."

ladybug  posted on  2007-01-18   13:21:20 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#295. To: Minerva (#254)

"Ponchy, at some level it's probably your fault."

--

The Redheadedstranger auditioning for American Idol and trying to deal with the blame thing when judged.

"We seek a free flow of information... a nation that is afraid to let its people judge the truth and falsehood in an open market is a nation afraid of its people." --JFK, Feb 1962

Ferret Mike  posted on  2007-01-19   20:07:57 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


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