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Title: The Catholic Church's War on Borders
Source: The Social Contract
URL Source: http://www.thesocialcontract.com/cg ... article.pl?articleID=448&terms
Published: May 30, 1995
Author: David Simcox
Post Date: 2006-12-30 13:40:43 by gargantuton
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The Catholic Church's War on Borders

The Social Contract (Spring 1995)

by David Simcox

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The Catholic Church has developed an elaborate theology of immigration since World War II, and along with this an abundance of moral-political prescriptions it promotes to secular governments for dealing with immigration. These norms have been enunciated by the Vatican, and even more energetically by The Catholic Bishops' Conference (NCCB) here in the United States.

The Church has virtually sacralized immigration, proclaiming it as a ''sacrament of unity,'' a process through which the Holy Spirit moves the world toward greater brotherhood. Migration, the Church preaches, witnesses to God's goodness, promotes the unity of the human family, and offers Christians a ministry of love and service to the stranger among us.

Human dignity, as the Church defines it, becomes a critical litmus test of the moral legitimacy of national responses to immigration pressures, just as it has been in Church judgments of other population and reproductive policies. The innate dignity of human beings entitles them to seek work in other lands and to be joined by their families there. This prerogative has in recent decades come to take precedence in Church teaching over the rights of nation-states to protect their borders.

The Church's concept of migrants' rights has moved closer to the absolute since Vatican II. Papal statements in the 1950s at least recognized the need to reconcile the right to migrate with national concern for the common good, as expressed in the regulation of immigration. That prudent approach is heard less now, Since Vatican II, and particularly in the thinking of John Paul II and the U.S. Bishops, any conditions on the right of migrants to cross national borders in search of work or to join family members have all but vanished. In the words of Los Angeles' Cardinal Roger Mahony Catholic social teaching takes what many view to be a counter-cultural position on this matter and insists that the right to immigrate is more fundamental than that of nations to control their borders.1

Oddly, a statement of the Catholic Bishops in late 1994 claimed that ''the Catholic Church has long recognized the right and obligation of nations to control their borders and create systems regulating immigration.'' The statement, particularly in asserting states' ''obligation'' to control borders, suggest a departure from existing doctrine. But the statement cited no authority for this uncharacteristic position, nor has the concept figured in more recent angry Church discourse on proposition 187 or legal immigration reform.2

The Church's cosmic image of migration as a celestially sanctioned human right, not surprisingly, crimps the debate on immigration regulation for many policy makers, conservationists, advocates of a sound environment and high labor standards, and among millions of ordinary Catholics of good faith. Disputing the Holy Spirit and the Magisterium of a 2000-year old institution is, for many, an intimidating venture.

Moral Imperatives

and Institutional Interests

The Church's stress on immigration as a moral imperative has practical as well as mystical roots. Organizational politics, institutional self-interest, and the desire to maximize utility are hard at work. Migration is central to the Church's history of recovery and growth following its losses from the Reformation and the secession of the Church of England. The catholization by Spain, France and Portugal of much of the Western Hemisphere in the 16th and 17th centuries was essentially a work of colonization and migration.

The current immigration mentality of the Church has been deeply influenced by its experiences in the 19th century. In that epoch of mass migration, Catholic-sending nations such as Ireland, Italy and Central Europe populated regions in the Western Hemisphere that were either sparsely populated or heavily Protestant. The most important country of settlement, the United States, was neither heavily Catholic nor culturally congenial to Catholicism.

Catholic immigrants of that era were thus religious pioneers who, though beleaguered and isolated in the host nations, were creating bridgeheads for the spread of the faith in the New World. The Church views itself as having accompanied its sons and daughters in their wanderings. The growth of large Catholic communities in nations where the Church's presence had been weak or non-existent has, for the Church, imbued immigration with a providential character, seemingly a manifestation of God's plan working itself out in the world.

Spiritual and institutional interests have prospered together. Through immigration and high fertility, the Church acquired an important new treasure a community of nearly 60 million souls and contributors in the United States, the World's richest nation. Such temporal power and financial strength counts for a great deal, even in a belief system valuing humility and self-abnegation.

''Since the late 1950s 33; the

`common good' of receiving

states has been increasingly

soft pedaled and

in some instances

rejected outright.''

But during the 19th century the papacy's outlook on world immigration policy differed from what it is today. The Church's priority mission was to serve spiritually the Catholic immigrants in their new homelands, protect them to the extent possible from discrimination and anti-Catholic hostility, and 33; in the U.S. 33; ensure their cultural survival in an overwhelmingly Protestant milieu.3 The U.S. parochial school system is a response to early Catholic feelings that the public schools were expressions of Protestant culture.

Absent then were papal policies asserting the human right of free immigration for all the moral obligation of states to acquiesce in the individual immigration choices of millions. The open immigration policies of the United States and some other major host nations in the 19th century made such special claims unnecessary.

In the 1910s and 1920s Catholic groups, such as the Knights of Columbus and ethnic brotherhoods, fought the mounting restrictionist sentiment. But there is no record of papal opposition to the Johnson-Reed act of 1921 or other major restrictive actions, nor any high-level intimations that such immigration policies contravened God's will.

Radicalization Since World War II

Circumstances in Europe after World War II had much to do with the radicalization of the Catholic Church's teaching on the primacy of immigrants' rights. Major migrations were taking place from the heavily Catholic, labor-surplus countries (Spain, Italy, Portugal and Yugoslavia) to nations such as Germany, Switzerland, France, and the Scandinavian countries, which perceived themselves as labor deficient. Europe was still awash with displaced persons scattered by the war.

It is in this setting that Pius XII issued ''Exsul Familia.'' This 1952 document explicitly identified emigration, immigration and family reunification as basic human rights. Worth noting is that the Universal Declaration of Human Rights adopted by the United Nations in that same period also enshrined the freedom to travel and the right of emigration as fundamental.4 But a series of diplomatic objections by the U.S. and other Western countries in the negotiations had blocked the treaty from asserting a comparable right to immigrate.

Since the late 1950s, in subsequent teaching documents of the Vatican and other magisterial bodies within the Church, the ''common good'' of receiving states has been increasingly soft-pedaled and in some instances rejected outright. The depreciation of the sovereignty of nation-states in migration matters has several different roots, some old, some recent. Three Theses

First, the Church, in the very catholicity of its name and in its outlook and mission is universalist. It has never been philosophically comfortable with the modern nation-state with its connotation of exclusion and its claims to be the ultimate community. For the Church, a main reason for the existence of states is to promote the human rights of individuals. Borders are often incompatible with human needs. Suffering this outlook is the biblical and early historical view of the Church as a cosmopolitan, multi-class, multi-cultural community for all. In the words of Paul ''there is no Greek or Jew here, circumcised or uncircumcised, foreigner, Scythian, slave or freeman. Rather, Christ is everything in all of you.'' (Colossians 3 11).

''In current discourse [the church]

draws on writers like

Julian Simon to argue that

nations must welcome immigration

in their own best interest33;''

Another transforming factor has been demographics. In the United States and some other Western nations, falling fertility in the 1960s among long-established Catholic populations dimmed the prospects for further Church growth. Predominantly Catholic immigration from Latin America and Vietnam provided both a new ministry and a new opportunity for expansion of the flock. Immigrants, in the words of Reverend Richard Ryscavage of the National Conference of Catholic Bishops, are the ''growing edge'' of the Church, as they were in the 19th century, and the ''assurance of the Church's health in the 21st century.5

A final tenet in the Church's open border vision is its faith in cornucopian economics as a response to issues of population growth and resource depletion. In current discourse it draws on writers like Julian Simon to argue that nations must welcome immigra-tion in their own best interest, as it enriches economically as well as culturally and spiritually. Church doctrine in the past has recognized that population in excess of resources can justify emigration. But it overlooks the corollary that excessive immigration can bring a similar imbalance to the receiving countries. Cornucopian economics, it seems, really applies only in Western industrial nations.

Changing priorities in Catholic social doctrine have also reinforced the view of immigration as a supra-national prerogative. The Church's heightened interest in social action to promote human rights to combat dehumanizing structures was both articulated in, and intensified by, the Vatican Councils of the 1960s. The U.S. Church's close exposure to Latin America conditioned its commitment to the ''prefer-ential option for the poor'' proclaimed in the literature of liberation theology. Pope John Paul II has made the rights of migrants a major theme of his papacy.

This outlook readily fused with the Church's vision of its area of future growth as the Third World and its increasing identification with the anti-capitalist, anti-colonialist liberation movements in those nations. Also present is an unfolding sense of mission to address the unequal distribution of the world's wealth highlighted in the U.N.'s North-South dialogue. Open immigration into major industrial nations becomes a way of sharing wealth and balancing out past exploitation. For the U.S. ''Sanctuary'' movement in the 1980s, acceptance of heavy flows of immigrants and asylum seekers was a form of national atonement for real or imagined U.S. foreign policy misdeeds and economic exploitation in Latin America.

Current Battles of the American

Church Against Restriction

The Church's theology of immigration takes operational form in the continuing tactical struggles of the Church against immigration restriction. Here are some of the leading skirmishes in the American hierarchy's ongoing battle

Ç9; The Catholic Bishops opposed employer sanctions in the 1986 Immigration Reform and Control Act. In scattered areas and diverse ways Catholic religious groups have litigated unsuccessfully against sanctions as an interference with their freedom of religion. In a few cases, they have simply flouted the law. Church leaders backed a coalition of interest groups supporting the Kennedy-Hatch bill to repeal sanctions altogether. It is unclear whether that legislation will reappear in the Republican-controlled 104th Congress.

Ç9; Church leaders and organizations were major actors in the coalition of human rights, ethnic, legal and labor groups that in 1989 and 1990 designed and pushed through the 1990 law expanding legal immi-gration 35 percent and creating a new category for easier humanitarian admission ''Temporary protected status.'' Failing to get a universal amnesty for illegal aliens in the 1986 law, Church forces and other human rights groups won a special provision for otherwise ineligible immediate relatives of legalized aliens to remain here. High on the Church's agenda now is a new amnesty for those entering since the 1982 cutoff date in the 1986 act who do not otherwise qualify.

Ç9; The Catholic Bishops' Conference consistently condemned Proposition 187. California's Catholic dioceses worked assiduously but unsuccessfully in the fall of 1994 to defeat the proposition with special mailings, appeals from the pulpit, media outreach and voter registration drives. Cardinal Mahony of Los Angeles once characterized support for the resolution as ''Grave social sin.'' The Church remains a major actor among the groups fighting to block implemen-tation of Proposition 187 in the courts.

Ç9; At the Cairo Conference on Population and Development, Vatican representatives worked with migrant-sending states in an attempt to establish family reunification as a basic right in the final document of the conference. They were unsuccessful in overcoming the resistance of the U.S. and other migrant-receiving nations.

Ç9; Generally, the American Church is well represented in the ad hoc coalitions that have formed to fight the current wave of what they call ''anti-immigrant hysteria'' and the drive for tighter controls of legal immigration, and for an end to abuse of asylum and of immigrant access to public assistance.

Recalcitrance among Lay Catholics

A ''Shepherd/Flock'' Gap

Polls consistently show that individual Catholic views on immigration are only modestly more supportive of generous immigration policies than those of non-Catholics. Some of the difference stems from the higher proportion of foreign born and Latinos among Catholics. But a solid majority of Catholic respondents in polls believe that immigration should go no higher or be reduced. This deviation from official Church doctrine resembles the profile of Catholic public opinion on birth control.

The vote on Proposition 187 indicated wide-spread resistance among the rank-and-file parishioners to the hierarchy's expansionist instincts on immigration. Overall, California Catholics, more than a third of them Hispanic, opposed 187 by 51% to 49%. But non-Hispanic white Catholics 33; two-thirds of all Catholic voters 33; favored it by 58% to 42%, roughly the measure's margin of victory statewide. The Los Angeles diocesan newspaper, The Tidings, saw in the results ''a Catholic electorate which increasingly seems to view the statements of its pastoral and moral leaders as having little credibility and urgency.''6

Many Catholic legislators necessarily share the pro-immigration instincts of the powerful ethnic constituencies in which they are rooted. Senator Edward Kennedy, tireless advocate of immigration expansion, particularly from Ireland, is an example. But there has been no shortage of Catholic legislators who have led or supported sound restrictionist efforts.

''The Los Angeles diocesan

newspaper saw in the results

[of the vote on Proposition 187]

`a Catholic electorate which

increasingly seems to view the

statements of its pastoral and

moral leaders as having

little credibility and urgency.'''

Well-known was Senator Pat McCarran, a leading Catholic layman, who co-authored the 1952 McCarran-Walter act that preserved national origins quotas and restrictions on Asian immigration. Another, Peter Rodino of New Jersey, originated employer sanctions legislation in the early 1970s, and Ron Mazzoli of Kentucky, a devout Catholic, saw that concept through to enactment in 1986. Mazzoli also favored a far more limited amnesty than Church leaders sought.

Senator Pat Moynihan, as a White House staffer, orchestrated the 1970 Rockefeller Commission on Population Growth, which recommended, among other measures, a freeze on immigration. Currently Moynihan plays a more passive role on immigration issues, although he supports a counterfeit-resistant social security card.

Perhaps most representative within the Church of pluralist views on immigration and the importance of separating the secular and the sacred, was the performance of Father Theodore Hesburgh as chair of the 1979 Special Commission on Immigration and Refugee Policies. Under his leadership, the commission recommended employer sanctions and an immigration ceiling more than a third lower than the present one.

Outlook Continued Confusion

Between God and Caesar

The attitudes of lay Catholics in the U.S. on population, environmental and reproductive issues have shifted inexorably away from those of the Vatican and the American hierarchy, shrugging off warnings from the pulpit against what the Church characterized as immoral or inhumane options on these issues. An insecure, impoverished and ethnic-based immigrant population at the turn of the century, American Catholics have achieved the wealth, education and self-confidence, in an increasingly crowded and environmentally threatened world, to define values for themselves.

Yet the Church's governing structure remains hierarchical, highly centralized and enduring. Changing attitudes in the pews are unlikely to profoundly influence the top leadership. The Church's name and organization clout are likely to remain indefinitely at the service of pro-natalism and immigration expansionism, with or without the assent of its millions of loyal contributors. This points up a fundamental irony in the Church's confusion of the realms of God and Caesar the Church hierarchy has power without responsibility 33; Caesar, not Rome, will be accountable and responsible for the social and environmental costs of disruptions flowing from mass immigration and rapid population growth. Ã2; NOTES

1 Los Angeles Times, October 9, 1993.

2 Welcoming the Stranger A Reflection on the Current Immigration Debate. Statement of William Cardinal Keebler, President of the National Conference of Catholic Bishops. Washington, November 17, 1994.

3 See ''The Scalabrinian Fathers Catholic Apostles to the World's Immigrants'' by James S. Robb, in The Social Contract, Vol. V, No. 3, Spring 1995, p. 185-190.

4 ''UN Declaration of Human Rights,'' Articles 13 and 14, adopted by the General Assembly of the United Nations on December 10, 1948.

5 Catholic Standard and Times, October 22, 1992.

6 Los Angeles Times, November 20, 1994.

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"But there is a God in Heaven that revealeth secrets, and maketh known [...] what shall be in the latter days." (Dan. 2:28)

Matthew 10:26 Fear them not, therefore: for there is nothing covered, that shall not be revealed; and hid, that shall not be known. 27 What I tell you in darkness, that speak ye in light: and what hear ye in the ear, that preach ye upon the housetops.

I've had pieces of it for a long time, but I stumbled upon an article the other day, that is filling in some of the blanks, and it is becoming much clearer now [I'm so slow].

This is all part of the Jewish/Rothschild/Bankster/British Empire/Vatican plot against America that has been going on for our entire history. [Please see Genesis 15:13-14/Gal. 3:16-29/ Psalm 2.] And of course, it is the plot of the NWO for global dictatorship:

Habakkuk 2....Who enlargeth his desire as hell, And is as death, and cannot be satisfied, But gathereth unto him all nations, and heapeth unto him all people..... read Hab. 1-3.

excerpt, last half of an article entitled:

"E(uro)cumenism": The European Union and the Ecumenical Movement (Part II)

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"But there is a God in Heaven that revealeth secrets, and maketh known [...] what shall be in the latter days." (Dan. 2:28) Professor Arthur Noble

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"....The forefathers of the great nation called the United States of America acted with a sense of divine destiny in their quest for liberty and democracy. America's unparalleled historical rise to greatness within two centuries following its birth defies every materialistic explanation. The source is inscribed on her legal tender – "In God we trust". It reminds the world that the lifeblood of America's integrity stems from the great religious revival for which she became renowned. It stems from her Constitutional freedom from Romanism. The incontestable reason for America's prosperity is found in the Bible, and it is that God still does bless nations who obey Him, as he promised Eli of old: "Them that honour me I will honour" (I Samuel 2:30).

[note: I'm not sure that we always obeyed Him, but He had a plan and purpose for this nation, in spite of us, and for His Holy Name's sake.]

Undermining the American Constitution

The Vatican, which has historically been no friend of the Bible, has nevertheless inveigled a much more highly regarded status in the United States than perhaps anywhere else in the world today. In the US, Roman Catholics are more prosperous and the so-called evangelicals much more pro-Romanist than in many other countries of the world.

Rome has systematically taken advantage of the religious freedom guaranteed by the US Constitution to promote her own doctrines while scheming to undermine those of American Protestantism. The more recent open assault by the Vatican on the freedom of religion guaranteed by the US Constitution is the culmination of a conspiracy launched when overwhelmingly Protestant America elected Roman Catholic John F Kennedy as President. At his funeral we had the cunning exposure of Protestants through television to the paraphernalia of Papist propaganda and the rigmarole of Romanist ritual.

The advent of ecumenical evangelism also made the false doctrines of Rome acceptable to millions of misled American fundamentalists. At the end of 1953, before he turned to apostasy, Billy Graham spoke out against Roman Catholicism. The United States was at that time one of the most Protestant nations on earth; now, on the contrary, its leaders support the cause of the Vatican in many areas of the world. Consider for instance the actions of the ecumenical Kennedy- Carter-Clinton clique which supported a united Ireland through the Irish- American lobby, facilitated Sinn Féin/IRA fund-raising, and thus assisted the Vatican in waging its war of aggression against Britain on another front.

Such policies, of course, are treacherous to the American Constitution, for those who drew up the Declaration of Independence were not Roman Catholic Irishmen; they were men of deep personal religious conviction, steeped in the Calvinist tradition. The heritage of the Scottish National Church and the Scottish national system of education founded by John Knox was brought to America by the Scotch-Irish, whose role and existence President Clinton belittled and ignored in order to elevate the Republican terrorists whose ancestors did not land in the USA until two centuries later and largely acquired the reputation of undesirables.

In 1995, no less than US 53 lawmakers sent a letter to House speaker Newt Gingrich asking him to have the Pope give an address to a joint session of Congress in October of that year. Representative John Boehner, the sponsor of the letter, said that such an invitation was "highly appropriate for the Vatican head of state and spiritual leader of 900 million [Roman] Catholics world-wide and 60 million American [Roman] Catholics. Both numbers were, as usual, grossly exaggerated.

Resistance to the Vatican's subversion of Protestantism in America was profoundly symbolised in 1997 when an Alabama Judge refused to remove a plaque inscribed with the Ten Commandments displayed in his courtroom. By the same token, the need for such resistance underlines the huge strides which Romanism has made in America in the last decade.

When the Pope visits the US this year, Americans should remember that he has been dubbed "the last great critic of capitalism", one of the systems which his predecessor said would have to be "deprecated" before Rome could achieve her aims. Americans must remember, too, that the Roman hierarchy has formally announced its intention to destroy their country, where she is entrenching herself with strength and promoting herself with subtlety. In L'Aurora of December, 1950, 'Father' Patrick O'Brien announced: "We, the Hierarchy of the Holy Catholic Church, [...] if necessary, shall change, amend, or blot out the present Constitution so that the President may enforce his, or rather our, humanitarian programme and all phases of human rights [!] as laid down by our saintly Popes and the Holy Mother Church. [...] We are going to have our laws made and enforced according to the Holy See and the Popes and the canon law of the Papal throne. Our entire social structure must be rebuilt on that basis. Our educational laws must be constructed to end the atheism, the Red peril of totalitarianism, Protestantism, Communism, Socialism and all other of like ilk and stamp, be driven from this fair land. [...] **** We control America and we do not propose to stop until America or Americans are genuinely Roman Catholic and remain so." ["We control America"....sound familiar?]

The Union and Echo, the official diocesan organ of the Roman Catholic Church in Buffalo, declared in December 1950 that at the rate of 126,000 converts a year in the United States it would take too long to "convert" (i.e. Romanise) America: "We must convert [...] Politics, Economics, Sociology, Business, Entertainment, Labour and Management, the Department of State and the Executive Branch of our Government to Christian and hence Catholic principles." There are already signs of a trade war being conducted by the EU against the US. Europe first, America next, tomorrow the world! Christians beware!"

http://www.ianpaisley. org/article.asp?ArtKey=euro2

Such policies, of course, are treacherous to the American Constitution, for those who drew up the Declaration of Independence were not Roman Catholic Irishmen;

Please see George Washington, the closet papist, debtor to the Rothschild synagogue, here:

The Pilgrim Society & English Speaking Union 7) Old Juba, Washington's trusted slave, used to row a priest across the Potomac to visit him and "Marse George made the sign of the Cross befo' he eat. ... http://www.watch.pair.com/pilgrim. html -

[Why do we always hear about the Pilgrims at Plymouth, but NEVER about the colonists who planted a cross at JAMESTOWN so many years earlier? Is it possible that the Pilgrims and Separatists (Pharisee means "separate") were crypto-Jews and closet Catholics?]

BRITAIN PROCLAIMS HOLY WAR AGAINST AMERICA:

to post: Jewish Persecution Chapter 18A monument to Salomon, George Washington and Robert Morris graces East Wacker Drive ... side during the American War of Independence against Great Britain. ... http://www.sweetliberty.org/pers pective/ jewishpersecution18.htm -

The Greatest Hoax | The Union Jack - Epilogue "Jonathan Williams recorded in his LEGIONS OF SATAN, 1781, that Cornwallis revealed to Washington that "a holy war will now begin on America, and when it is ... http://www .sweetliberty.org/issues/hoax/unionjack_epilogue.htm -

The Church views itself as having accompanied its sons and daughters in their wanderings. The growth of large Catholic communities in nations where the Church's presence had been weak or non-existent has, for the Church, imbued immigration with a providential character, seemingly a manifestation of God's plan working itself out in the world.

Roman Catholicism, which substitutes Peter for the Rock which is Jesus Christ, is another front for Judaism.

MYSTERY BABYLON: CATHOLIC OR JEWISH MYSTERY, BABYLON THE GREAT. CATHOLIC OR JEWISH? And the woman was arrayed in purple and scarlet colour, and decked with gold and precious stones and pearls, ... http://www.watch.pair.com/mystery-babylon.html

More than 20 Jews have been Popes, including the Borgias and Medicis.

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This is all part of the Jewish/Rothschild/Bankster/British Empire/Vatican plot against America that has been going on for our entire history.

Some more articles to read THE US IS STILL A BRITISH COLONY [search. http://apfn.org has one with links to more of the plot].

Masonic Foundations of the U.S.(13) Architect of the Capitol Home Page http://www.aoc.gov/history/cap_hist. htm#plan (14) "Freemasonry - Is it Satan's Door to America?," Ed Decker, ... http://www.watch.pair.com/Maso nicPlan.html

Masonic Foundations of the U.S. He notes that Freemasonry's god, "...Osiris and Isis, theologically ... recognized that America's greatest task was to go toward the goal of the Plan -- the ... http://www.watch.pair.com/mason.html -

The Masonic New World Order Masonic Foundations of the United States. Great Seal of the United States. Masonic Architecture of Washington, D.C.. British Freemasonry's Plan for America ... http://www .theforbiddenknowledge.com/hardtruth/masonic_nwo.htm

NATIONAL TREASURE MOVIE: FREEMASONRY'S NATIONAL HERITAGE STORY OF ...As you listen to Illuminist author, Elizabeth van Buren, explain Great Britain's occult plans for America, note how high-ranking these officials were: ... http://www.cuttingedge.org/NEWS /n1983.cfm

Global Elite Promoting ‘End Times’ Myth - http://Historicist.com The ...Global Elite Promoting ‘End Times’ Myth. Television gurus preaching a fraudulent “end times” and “last days” theory popularized in the 19th century are ... http://www.historici st.com/articles2/globalelite.htm

[NOTE: the Global Elite are promoting BRITISH-ISRAELISM, which is what the article that follows below is all about]

2/3/02: The British Are Coming! Joan M. Veon. Born Charles Philip Arthur George Mountbatten-Windsor in 1948 ... The British lost the War of 1812 to a bunch of illiterate sharpshooters from ... http://www.womensgroup.org/2 00212281208.html

AND THE ONE THAT TIES IT ALL TOGETHER :

[I don't agree with everything that is in it, but here is an excerpt that defines the "British" plot against America, as it now stands:]

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excerpt:

"..... (Web Editor's Comments : This is one of the most important documents an American can ever read. It is especially relevent in regards to the Trade Center Explosions and the build-up of war in the Middle East. It is a strange coincidence that I was typing this document in at the time the planes crashed into the twin towers. I had started typing this about 5 days before it happened and it took me over 6 weeks to type it all up. Take note how it talks about looking in retrospect at WWI to decide whether it would be worth getting involved in WWII. This was in 1940 that this document was being looked at by the Congress. Now, in 2001, we can look in retrospect, at this document again, to decide whether we should become involved in this "Crusade" of George Bush's, in representation of England's second conquest of the Muslim nations, again utilizing the United States of America to do it's bidding, but this time, they have made it so that we are the ones who come begging for help. Once you read this, you will know exactly who are the real racists in this world, and you will start to understand where exactly we are today, within the scheme of the New World Order / One-World Government, if you don't already. Also, please note that neither the "State of Israel", nor the "United Nations" existed yet at this time. The "League to Enfore the Peace" was the forerunner to the U.N. Both the "State of Israel" and the U.N. share the same flag colors (U.N. Blue [a particular shade of blue], and White). It is also important to realize that many of the people discussed as the main power players in these articles are all members of Skull and Bones, founded by Taft's grandfather, Alphonso Taft, and who's grandson, the President helped to found the "League for the Settlement of International Disputes, which became the "League to Enforce the Peace, and then, ultimately, the United Nations. I have underlined and bolded all the important sections. Everything else is exactly as it is from the Congressional Documents, I, as well as others possess, called "Steps Toward a British Union", put out originally by the authors of "Pandora's Box" back in 1994.

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Steps Toward a British Union, A World State and International Strife Part I,

Extension of Remarks of Hon. J. Thorkelson of Montana in the House of Representatives,

Monday, Aug. 19th, 1940

"Mr. Speaker, in order that the American people may have a clearer understanding of those who over a period of years have been undermining this Republic in order to return it to the British Empire, I have inserted in the record a number of articles to prove this point. These articles are entitled "Steps towards British Union, A World State, and International Strife." This is part I, and in this I included a hope expressed by Mr. Andrew Carnegie, in his book entitled "Triumphant Democracy". In this he expresses himself in this manner : 'Let men say what they will. I say that as surely as the sun in the heavens once shone upon Britain and America united, so surely is it one morning to rise, to shine upon, to greet again the reunited states -- the British-America Union.'

This statement is clear, and the organizations which Mr. Carnegie endowed have spent millions in order to bring this about. This thing has been made possible by scholarships, exchange professors, subsidies of churches, subsidies of educational institutions: all of them working for the purpose of eliminating Americanism as was taught once in our schools and to gradually exchange this for an English version of our history.

These organizations were organized to bring about a British Union, a union in which the United States would again become a part of the British Empire. However, this has been upset to some extent by the attempt of the internationalists to establish their own government as an international or world union. And there is, therefore, a conflict between the two, for England wants a British Union, with America as a colony, and the international money changers want a Jewish controlled union, in order to establish their own world government.

It is, therefore, best for us to stay out of both of these, in order to save what is left of this Republic as it was given to us in 1787, by a people who knew more about international intrigue and the real problems tha confronted the world, than we know today. These early founders not only understood the problems, but in drafting the constitution they provided an instrument for us to follow, so that we could remain secure from foreign double-dealing and intrigue. Had we adhered to the Constitution as it was given to us, we would have been secure and safe today.

Therefore, it is our duty, in the interest of our people and in the interest of this Republic of the United States, to ponder seriously and to give fullest consideration to solving the problem which now confronts the world. In doing so, I am rather inclined to believe that the real American people will decide without hesitation, to return to those fundamental principles that were set forth in the Constitution of the United States. Let no one tell you that this instrument is not as valuable today as it was in 1787; for the fact is that it is much more valuable today -- so much so that complete disintegration of this Republic cannot be avoided should we fail to return our government to the principles set forth therein.

I shall now quote an article by Andrew Carnegie, which he wrote at the request of the London Express, and which appeared in that paper October 14, 1904, entitled "Drifting Together."

Drifting Together - Will the United States and Canada Unite? [see this link - CAFTA goes back to at least 1904!!! : http://www.freedomdomain.co m/drifting_to.html ]

(Written by request for the London Express, October 14, 1904, by Andrew Carnegie)..............."

Roots of Racism and Anti-Semitism [MUST READ ALL!]

http://www.freedomdomain.com/rac ism.html

Please see this article...no one had answered my question of last night, as to what a "trace mode" was. If this is not an internal thing, than I find it mighty curious that someone on the outside, such as ADL or Homeland Security, would find it so interesting:

Holocaust Denier Freed from Jail http://freedom4um.com/cgi- bin/readart.cgi?ArtNum=41888&Disp=20&Trace=on

[have to get ready to meet my daughter's boyfriend for the first time...away with you, young man...guess that's not what I should say.]

AllTheKings'HorsesWontDoIt  posted on  2006-12-31   11:32:14 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#2. To: AllTheKings'HorsesWontDoIt (#1)

Steps Toward a British Union, A World State and International Strife Part I

Sorry, but I have no idea what a trace mode is...

What is the link for the story? Perhaps I missed it.

The Light travels faster than sound. This is why some people appear bright until you hear them speak.

richard9151  posted on  2006-12-31   23:37:36 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#3. To: richard9151 (#2)

Holocaust Denier Freed from Jail http://freedom4um.com/cgi- bin/readart.cgi?ArtNum=41888&Disp=20&Trace=on

see note on #5, and after my comment 20, the object of interest to whomever, I guess.

I believe my comment was the truth, and it is very contrary to British- Israelism, which doctrine I found to be kind of funny, but it wasn't until now I finally understand how deadly it is. I don't know what took me so long...just stupid, I guess.

I have to study up on it more. Here are some articles on the subject:

"british israelism hebrew roots"

Makow -The 'Jewish' Conspiracy Is British Imperialism By Henry Makow PhD

http://www.rense.com/general53/b rith.htm

The Discernment Ministries: British-Israelism Hebrew Roots leader Michas plainly teaches the British-Israel doctrine of Yair Davidy and Herbert Armstrong in Chapter 6 of his Study of Revelation: ... http://www.watch.pair.com/brit-israel.html -

The British Israeli ConspiracyMr. Gould's article and other anti-Hebrew Roots material were removed some ... the doctrine of British-Israel that was popularized by Herbert W. Armstrong. ... http://www.watch.pair.com/disc ernment.html

Evangelicals and Globalists Together-- Aho Newsletter Teaches the false Jewish Roots of Christianity doctrine - a form of British-Israelism which claims that the British are the lost 12 tribes of Israel. (cf. ... http://www.free domdomain.com/secretsocieties/evanglob.htm

Antichrist Is Not A Jew, The Pope, Islam Or A Joke Initially, British Jewish Masonic families like the Rothschilds and Montefiores provided the ... http://watch.pair.com/brit- israel.html

Aquarian Mind Control Clearly, there were close ties between British Israelism and the Illuminati. ... The root of the Atlantean hoax, or New Age, is Rosicrucianism. ... http://www.tribwatch.com/aquarian.h tm -

aho_cospiracy Hebrew Roots leader, Peter Michas teaches the British-Israel doctrine in his ... http://watch.pair.com/cosmic.html. pages

My Documentslettertwohttp://watch.pair.com/pray.html. THE HEBRAIC ROOTS MOVEMENT. Peter Michas' essay "Is The New Testament Hebrew/Aramaic or Greek?" maintains that the original ... http://www.jesus-is- lord.com/hebrewrt.htm -

see the British Monarchy and Royal Presidents links at http://asis.com, wherein, in their own words, they claim descent from the house of Judah and the house of Israel.

Read Psalm 2.

AllTheKings'HorsesWontDoIt  posted on  2007-01-01   16:28:48 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#4. To: richard9151 (#2)

Let me back up.

We've been talking about the Rothschilds on a couple of threads.

I had this article up on my computer:

Banking / Federal Reserve System BY FAR, THE SINGLE GREATEST SLEIGHT-OF-HAND SCAM EVER PERPETRATED ON THE AMERICAN PEOPLE. !!

http://www.freedomdomain.com/ban kfed.htm

Within that was this:

"....Nathan Rothschild once bragged that in the 17 years he had been in England, he had increased the original wealth of 20,000 Pounds, given to him by his father, by over 2500 times. By the mid 1800's the Rothschilds were one of the wealthiest families in the world and controled all the major banks of Europe. (At this point it would be appropriate to interject an editorial note: Most people who study conspiracies think the Rothschilds run the world, and some believe falsely, that they always have. Others, who are racist, and anti- semitic point to this era and try to use it to "prove" that "Jews" run the world. I have put together a "Roots of Racism and Anti-Semitism" Page, which you can view by Clicking Here. This should tie several ideas in together and explain in part why this is NOT true, even though it may appear that way at times)....."

the link for Roots of Racism and Anti-Semitism is http://www.freedomdomain.com/rac ism.html , but the article is really about : Steps Toward a British Union, A World State and International Strife Part I

It's the British plot against America. Remember what Cornwallis said to George Washington: A HOLY WAR will now begin against America...her people will think they are free....her churches will be used to teach the Jews' religion....and she will be working for Divine Government, which is the British Empire [or monarchy?] [see http://sweetliberty.org ] Furthermore, was it a Rothschild who said about America, That government must be destroyed, or it will destroy every monarchy on the continent. See Psalm 2 - the kings and rulers and judges of the earth against Mt Zion, where Christ has set His throne. Old Jerusalem or New??]

I may have misinterpreted what you were asking for.

AllTheKings'HorsesWontDoIt  posted on  2007-01-01   16:47:21 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#5. To: gargantuton, Jethro Tull (#0)

does anyone know where the protestant 501(c) 3 churches fall on this matter? i would venture to guess there's at least tacit approval of amnesty and "migration."

christine  posted on  2007-01-01   18:08:19 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#6. To: christine (#5)

I'm sure all 501(c) 3 churches fall toward the government position on illegals, as they do most other positions I can think of. They're bought and paid for. Going even further, some posters support wide open borders despite knowing the end result will be national suicide. I've stopped reading gargantuton's material after he suggested we tax illegal aliens, people who come here illegally w/o a pocket to piss in and an agenda that promotes the NAU.

Jethro Tull  posted on  2007-01-01   20:24:32 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


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