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Title: I think I just blew BAC and the BOTS theory about 911 out of the water
Source: libertypost
URL Source: http://www.libertypost.org/cgi-bin/readart.cgi?ArtNum=171211&Disp=0
Published: Dec 30, 2006
Author: 3 World Wars
Post Date: 2006-12-30 21:22:32 by Itisa1mosttoolate
Keywords: None
Views: 475
Comments: 19

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#4. To: Itisa1mosttoolate (#0)

From TFA (the fuckin' article): "Pike was said to be a Satanist, who indulged in the occult, and he apparently possessed a bracelet which he used to summon Lucifer, with whom he had constant communication."

Are you mental?

Seriously, at what point did your logic circuits fry out? Trying to link a guy that's been dead 100 years to 911? A bracelet used to summon Lucifer, with whom he had constant communication? Did you play too much Dungeons and Dragons, or what?

Indrid Cold  posted on  2006-12-31   20:48:23 ET  Reply   Untrace   Trace   Private Reply  

Did you play too much Dungeons and Dragons, or what?

no, he read historical documents written by Albert Pike in 1870's & 1880's. Albert Pike is the one who said he rubs the bracelet and is in touch with dark angel from doing that. Albert Pike is the one who wrote book that outlined history in 20'th century with amazing accuracy.

Red Jones  posted on  2006-12-31   21:27:58 ET  Reply   Untrace   Trace   Private Reply  

Albert Pike is the one who said he rubs the bracelet and is in touch with dark angel from doing that.

Really? Got a link to the section in Pike's book where he says that?

I thought not.

Indrid Cold  posted on  2006-12-31   21:36:22 ET  Reply   Untrace   Trace   Private Reply  

I trust that the documents written as history that say Albert Pike wrote this letter where he claims about how he rubs his jewelery and accesses a spirit by doing this are honest and true. They provide footnote in their book. I don't think they're lying. If you choose to think so, then that's your business.

but I'm not going to act as a defense attorney under your accusation and go and do research for you due to your belief system being upset.

there are spiritual forces in this world. and some of those spiritual forces are evil (rebellious). that's the way it is. and if you want a source document for that I'd advise you to read bible and also to pay attention to human experience.

Red Jones  posted on  2007-01-01   12:47:22 ET  Reply   Untrace   Trace   Private Reply  

I trust that the documents written as history that say Albert Pike wrote this letter where he claims about how he rubs his jewelery and accesses a spirit by doing this are honest and true. They provide footnote in their book. I don't think they're lying. If you choose to think so, then that's your business.

but I'm not going to act as a defense attorney under your accusation and go and do research for you due to your belief system being upset.

Oh, my belief system is not upset, I just think the assertation is on the far side of ridiculous. And I'm not wading through Pike's 800-page tome either, just to find out that yet another "expert" has taken a quote out of context or completely made it up.

A cursory Google search for "Albert Pike bracelet Lucifer" returns some nutbag links, as well as the following, by a biographer of Pike: http://users.aristotle.net/~russjohn/literary/pikerant.html

Wherein we find the comments re the conspiracy:

"Outrageous Fabrication: Pike, as a member of the Illuminati, outlined a plan for three world wars which would result in the establishment of a single world government.

The facts: For fifty years, Pike was a staunch advocate of the principle of States' Rights. He didn't even favor a strong national government. It is therefore absurd to think that he would advocate a single world government, much less formulate a plan to bring about such a government.

If the excerpts I've read on the internet are part of this supposed master plan, then I can say with a high degree of confidence that it didn't come from Pike. It's not his rhetorical style. Further, I think it's not in the rhetorical style that was taught in the 19th century. I think this three-world-war letter is a 20th century hoax. I'm not saying there's no master plan for three world wars, I am saying that letter didn't come from Pike.

Quoted from the Mazzini letter, supposedly written by Pike in 1871: "The Second World War must be fomented by taking advantage of the differences between the Fascists and the political Zionists." The only trouble with that is that the Fascist Party was formed in 1919. According to the Oxford English Dictionary, there was no such word as "fascist" until almost thirty years after Pike's death.

Myth busted. The Pike/Mazzini correspondence is a lie, a fraud, a hoax. It was written in the 20th Century by a liar who tried to attatch Pike's name to his lies."

End quote. I believe in a great many conspiracies, some of them just because it's fun to believe in them, like space aliens created the human race by fusing alien DNA with monkey DNA.

But a good conspiracy theory ought to be well-crafted, with plenty of supporting evidence from reputable sources. It also shouldn't require any giant leaps of faith, like a guy wearing a magic bracelet who plans out world wars 50 years in advance.

Tell me Pike beat his dog. I could believe that. Tell me he conspired to control the post-war cotton market. I could believe that too. But summoning Lucifer from a magic bracelet? C'mon.

Indrid Cold  posted on  2007-01-01   13:25:42 ET  Reply   Untrace   Trace   Private Reply  

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