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Title: 'Assassination' schedule announced for Congress-Radio-show host (Hal Turner) says leaders won't be allowed to 'betray' nation
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World Net Daily
URL Source: http://www.wnd.com/news/article.asp?ARTICLE_ID=53245
Published: Jan 3, 2007
Author: Media Matters
Post Date: 2007-01-03 20:04:49 by Zipporah
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'Assassination' schedule announced for Congress Radio-show host says leaders won't be allowed to 'betray' nation © 2006 WorldNetDaily.com A radio talk-show entertainer whose earlier statements that he "may" have to assassinate members of Congress if the wrong people were elected Nov. 7 now has set a timetable for those killings. In a statement on his website, Hal Turner noted that a newspaper has reported that a bill granting amnesty to illegal aliens is expected to be enacted in January, when the Democratic Party takes control of the U.S. Senate and House. "ANY MEMBER OF CONGRESS WHO INTRODUCES, CO-SPONSORS OR VOTES IN FAVOR OF ANY SUCH AMNESTY WILL BE DECLARED A DOMESTIC ENEMY AND WILL BE CONSIDERED A LEGITIMATE TARGET FOR ASSASSINATION," Turner posted on his website. "Members of Congress and the Senate will NOT be permitted to BETRAY our nation by simply GIVING AWAY the most cherished aspect of America, Citizenship, to millions of people who cared so little for what Citizenship means that they came here against our law," he continued. Several weeks ago, Turner incited much discussion when he posted the following: "We may have to ASSASSINATE some of the people you elect on Nov. 7! This could be your LAST ELECTION CHANCE, to save this Republic… "Sorry to have to be so blunt, but the country is in mortal danger from our present government and our liberty is already near dead because of this government. If you are too stupid to turn things around with your vote, there are people out here like me who are willing to turn things around with guns, force and violence. We hope our method does not become necessary," he wrote. But he defined his position as commentary instead of advocacy when one supporter wrote to Turner's website, "Hey Hal instead of saying 'may' SAY you WILL KILL THEM!!!" "No no no no no. Words mean things," Turner wrote at the time. The difference between 'may' and 'will' is the difference between an opinion and a threat," he concluded. "One is lawful, the other is not!" In the current posting, Turner has taken an aggressive stance against any effort by Congress to legalize or provide a "path to citizenship" for the millions of aliens who are in the United States illegally. "Congress will not be permitted to BETRAY our nation by giving Citizenship to tens of thousands who didn't give a s--- about our other laws as they murdered, raped, robbed, dealt illegal drugs, drove without licenses or insurance, stole the social security numbers and/or identities of millions of lawful citizens and most of whom don't give a s--- enough about our country to even learn our language!" Asked about procedures involving suspected threats to members of Congress, the U.S. Secret Service told WND that it would be interested only if the threat involved someone the Service protects. All other cases would be referred to local police jurisdictions. When WND's question specifically referred to a website statement, Secret Service spokesman Darrin Blackford told WND: "We have no comment on that statement." Paul Bresson, a spokesman for the FBI, said he couldn't confirm what investigations are being pursued. "The Internet does not give anyone a license to espouse violence, but there is a certain amount of protection, First Amendment protections, that are built in and we're mindful of those," he said. He called it a "fine line," and said what the agency would do is look at all the information available and "make a determination" whether any crime might have been committed. In the earlier situation FBI spokeswoman Debbie Weierman said such circumstances generally are turned over to a "duty agent" to review, but she couldn't provide other information until and unless a charge would be filed in any case. In the current rant, Turner calls it a "right" for Americans to act in self-defense of their nation. "Members of The United States House of Representatives or United States Senate who try to grant any form of Amnesty to millions of illegal aliens are hereby notified they may as well paint a bulls-eye target on themselves. Our Bullets don't care about their sovereign power," he wrote. "This seems to be 'it' folks. I'm going to do what I have to do to protect my nation from its government. I know where all of my New Jersey Congressmen and Senators live. Do you know where yours live? If not, you better find out before January so you can scope out their neighborhoods and prepare yourselves," he said. "Those of you who, for years, have said you're 'gonna do this' or 'gonna do that' when the time comes; are about to face ugly reality. In January, 'the time' will come. In January the entire world will find out if you're real or just a bigmouth coward," he said. One reader who responded on his comment sheet asked Turner, "who's gonna pick up the fruits and clean your toilet?" To which Turner said, "Machinery can pick the crops; I clean my own toilet." Turner also declined a suggestion to post a list of addresses and provide maps "so people can protest at their homes" by saying, "Once I publish such a list, they would undoubtedly feel the need and take steps to secure themselves. If we forewarn them by publicly publishing a list, we lose the element of surprise." One other reader said, "I'm sitting here now with my 30.06 stripped down. Can do this in the dark. Don't want any grains of sand in the mechanism," he wrote. Still another said he'd forwarded Turner's comments to the FBI, to which Turner responded with a laugh. "You called the FBI about me? BIG DEAL! One can only illegally 'incite' violence when what is said is uttered in a context which lends itself to IMMINENT lawlessness. I will not be arrested because I have thus far committed no crime. Just because you don't understand the subtle delineations of the law does not mean I have broken the law. The FBI has been receiving reports about me from morons like you for six years. I'm still here. Your posting did, however, give me a chuckle!" But his posting also continued further into his plans, and his expectations for the consequences. "The pro-white movement has a habit of making martyrs of folks who take action. They hold rallies for them. They put up web sites about them. Just so we're clear, the only people authorized to do that for me after I become a martyr (alive or dead) are those who stand with me when the fight takes place. Because if you are, TODAY, 'pro-white' and you fail to stand with me in confronting our renegade government, then I say you are a coward and I don't want my name being uttered by cowards," he wrote. He said the "amnesty" would mark "the actual end of our nation." "That will erase us as a nation and I will not permit it. What about you?" he asked. One reader was quick with his response: "Where can we get some polonium-210?" he asked. Turner also carries on his website a disclaimer noting that he is considered a "public figure" which means a lot of places carry of lot of comments about him over which he has no control, including some with "virulent" perspectives. "This being the case, Mr. Turner feels it necessary to – and hereby does – DISCLAIM AND REPUDIATE any affiliation with or support of such groups." Even he didn't take his earlier statements that he may have to assassinate about half of the members of Congress and three members of the U.S. Supreme court seriously. He told WND he never bothered to make a hit list because he never planned to kill anyone. Turner also told WND earlier he'd been investigated by the Secret Service, the U.S. Marshals Service and others in the past, without results. He said that's because he's very careful to "use words such as 'may have' (or) 'might' which are opinions/observations rather than threats." "I am totally familiar with three specific U.S. Supreme Court decisions and those parameters govern what I say and write," he said. He said his comments are "uttered in a context which does not lend itself to imminent lawlessness," do not constitute a "true threat," and could be considered "political hyperbole."
Posted: December 6, 2006
1:00 a.m. Eastern
Hal Turner
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#93. To: Minerva (#87)
He's gone, never to return. I expect a PM any moment.
He's...gay? Gasp! I'm being cyberstalked!
"We become what we behold. We shape our tools and thereafter our tools shape us." -- Marshall McLuhan, after Alexander Pope and William Blake.
There's this really old man who lives in this area who has been writing letters to the presidents since Truman. He's got schizophrenia and he has this thing about presidents and has been writing to every one of them for decades. A couple years ago, the FBI flew out here to take him away to be questioned. They came to the conclusion that he was just nutty and did not pose a threat to The President, so they let him go. It was the first time any government agencies paid him any attention. I don't know whether they paid for his airfare or not.
Ponchy is gone? We were just beginning to reach him. Morgan won't even get a chance to say goodbye. She's down in North Hollywood and won't be back til later. You ought to let him stay until she can take one last poke at him.
... and I like cyber f**k the males. -- Ponchy
Actually, he is "ghey" - but I understand that to be almost the same thing.
... and I like cyber f**k the males. -- Ponchy
Damn, now we'll never get a chance to ask Ponchy if he is really Isabel Quaresma.
When the going gets weird the weird turn pro. - Hunter S Thompson
So who runs this place? Christine? Palo Verde? The three stooges?
freedomunderground.org
Does Isabel Quaresma chew tobacco and drink a lot of cheap vodka?
... and I like cyber f**k the males. -- Ponchy
I had to Google that one. Makes semse, though.
"We become what we behold. We shape our tools and thereafter our tools shape us." -- Marshall McLuhan, after Alexander Pope and William Blake.
Actually we nominated you fool king for the day. It's a medeival sort of thing.
... and I like cyber f**k the males. -- Ponchy
Q: Why can't a rooster ever get rich? A: Because he works for chicken feed!
When the going gets weird the weird turn pro. - Hunter S Thompson
Look on the SSH forum. That word is used everywhere.
... and I like cyber f**k the males. -- Ponchy
drama queen. If this thread is ever widely publicized, you'll be the laughing stock of every other forum you post on.
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A: Because he works for chicken feed! I don't get it.
... and I like cyber f**k the males. -- Ponchy
Amazing. I don't believe I've ever seen vodka type messages on a forum before.
... and I like cyber f**k the males. -- Ponchy
Better put some long pants on. Ponchy is back.
... and I like cyber f**k the males. -- Ponchy
How'd you know I had shorts on right now? ;-)
"We become what we behold. We shape our tools and thereafter our tools shape us." -- Marshall McLuhan, after Alexander Pope and William Blake.
drama queen, quit sniffing your own god-damned farts, you sick bastard.
When the going gets weird the weird turn pro. - Hunter S Thompson
Last dog ain't been hung yet, JT. Besides, you can't ban me. Affirmative action laws require that at least one brown boy and one negro be a member of each forum. Freddy Mertz don't count...he's just a cigar store indian.
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Dakmar is a negro.
... and I like cyber f**k the males. -- Ponchy
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Up yours, loser. I've got a winning horse.
For pete's sake, take your business here and feel free to not share so much of your love life, it's too much information for me, man.
Is hanging the dog the same as choking the chicken?
... and I like cyber f**k the males. -- Ponchy
Is that the guy from Grand Funk Railroad?
When the going gets weird the weird turn pro. - Hunter S Thompson
But I cleaned up on election day. 1k's worth of right predictions. Mind you, I lost some money cause I betted that the republicans would hold the senate.
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If you don't like it then you can tell the 4um managment to stop fucking with my posts.
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That's David Koresh you numbskull.
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To hell with them africans, kicking us out of olduvai gorge. I can't let that go, you dig?
When the going gets weird the weird turn pro. - Hunter S Thompson
Oh, I never paid much attention to those types, just keep 'em off my property.
When the going gets weird the weird turn pro. - Hunter S Thompson
Bzzzzzt! Fails for lameness. The post was up for hours and Ponchy could have changed it at any time with the edit function. It didn't become an issue until we pointed it out and laughed about it. (See thread above.)
... and I like cyber f**k the males. -- Ponchy
For the record, I wasn't here when JT or Palolitest aka Christine edited it. Therefore, I was unable to re-edit it.
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Property? Your wife let you back into the basement?
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You were here all day. {See thread above.}
... and I like cyber f**k the males. -- Ponchy
We had a woman named Liz who tried the falsified E mail bit to try to slander a fellow poster years ago at http://Time.com/politics. Unfortunately for her, the fraud was easily detected. It is easy to monitor who where and when a post modification was made. I find it hard to believe well seasoned forum operators and interlocutors would try to do scapegoating and slander intended post modification. I would well say that a half cocked accusation like that can have a way of coming back to haunt you. I have watched carefully from where the bad intent emminates from and who here actually has an axe to grind. And it isn't Zipporah and christine that is the problem here.
Well, I'm going to call it a week. Feel free to set fire to my posts...ect... I don't really care...only made an issue out of it to show that zipporah is an inept manager with the IQ of a turnip.
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Ponchy .... when you no longer command enough respect to piss people off it's time to pack it in.
... and I like cyber f**k the males. -- Ponchy
And speaking of posters with the IQ of vegetables... You don't have a clue what's going on. JT has been fucking with my posts for about a year, now. It's become a moderately amusing game. I posted this morning, on my lunch break, and in the evening, but I suppose this is all a bit complicated for you...
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Ponchy .... I can see why it takes you 400 posts to opus.
... and I like cyber f**k the males. -- Ponchy
When the going gets weird the weird turn pro. - Hunter S Thompson
Has he gone?
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#94. To: robin (#90)
You shouldn't have mentioned that you wear shorts in the summer.
#95. To: HOUNDDAWG (#73)
I'm sure you'll agree that he's a kook magnet and his fans are the kind of people that the FBI routinely database. After all, the bureau never repudiated the snoopy policies mandated by Hoover and they have thousands of files on some very innocuous folks
#96. To: Jethro Tull (#93)
He's gone, never to return. I expect a PM any moment.
#97. To: YertleTurtle (#94)
He's...gay? Gasp! I'm being cyberstalked!
#98. To: Minerva (#96)
#99. To: Zipporah (#71)
secondly Im not here that often anymore.
#100. To: Dakmar (#98)
Damn, now we'll never get a chance to ask Ponchy if he is really Isabel Quaresma.
#101. To: Minerva (#97)
Actually, he is "ghey" - but I understand that to be almost the same thing
#102. To: Redheadedstranger (#99)
So who runs this place? Christine? Palo Verde? The three stooges?
#103. To: Minerva (#100)
#104. To: YertleTurtle (#101)
I had to Google that one. Makes semse, though.
#105. To: YertleTurtle (#94)
#106. To: Dakmar (#103)
Q: Why can't a rooster ever get rich?
#107. To: Ponchy (#105)
drama queen. If this thread is ever widely publicized, you'll be the laughing stock of every other forum you post on.
#108. To: YertleTurtle (#101)
#109. To: Minerva (#108)
Better put some long pants on. Ponchy is back.
#110. To: Redheadedstranger (#105)
drama queen. If this thread is ever widely publicized, you'll be the laughing stock of every other forum you post on.
#111. To: Jethro Tull (#93)
#112. To: Ponchy, Black Sands (#111)
Affirmative action laws require that at least one brown boy and one negro be a member of each forum.
#113. To: Dakmar (#110)
He knows where you live. Now get lost, you yapping cur...
#114. To: Redheadedstranger (#111)
Freddy Mertz don't count..
#115. To: Redheadedstranger (#33)
"I like cyber f**k the males."
#116. To: Ponchy (#111)
Last dog ain't been hung yet, JT.
#117. To: Redheadedstranger (#113)
#118. To: Fred Mertz (#114)
I've got a winning horse.
#119. To: Ferret Mike (#115)
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#121. To: Minerva (#112)
Dakmar is a negro.
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#123. To: Redheadedstranger (#119)
If you don't like it then you can tell the 4um managment to stop fucking with my posts.
#124. To: All (#120)
#125. To: Dakmar (#122)
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#127. To: Minerva (#123)
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