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Title: 'Assassination' schedule announced for Congress-Radio-show host (Hal Turner) says leaders won't be allowed to 'betray' nation
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World Net Daily
URL Source: http://www.wnd.com/news/article.asp?ARTICLE_ID=53245
Published: Jan 3, 2007
Author: Media Matters
Post Date: 2007-01-03 20:04:49 by Zipporah
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'Assassination' schedule announced for Congress Radio-show host says leaders won't be allowed to 'betray' nation © 2006 WorldNetDaily.com A radio talk-show entertainer whose earlier statements that he "may" have to assassinate members of Congress if the wrong people were elected Nov. 7 now has set a timetable for those killings. In a statement on his website, Hal Turner noted that a newspaper has reported that a bill granting amnesty to illegal aliens is expected to be enacted in January, when the Democratic Party takes control of the U.S. Senate and House. "ANY MEMBER OF CONGRESS WHO INTRODUCES, CO-SPONSORS OR VOTES IN FAVOR OF ANY SUCH AMNESTY WILL BE DECLARED A DOMESTIC ENEMY AND WILL BE CONSIDERED A LEGITIMATE TARGET FOR ASSASSINATION," Turner posted on his website. "Members of Congress and the Senate will NOT be permitted to BETRAY our nation by simply GIVING AWAY the most cherished aspect of America, Citizenship, to millions of people who cared so little for what Citizenship means that they came here against our law," he continued. Several weeks ago, Turner incited much discussion when he posted the following: "We may have to ASSASSINATE some of the people you elect on Nov. 7! This could be your LAST ELECTION CHANCE, to save this Republic… "Sorry to have to be so blunt, but the country is in mortal danger from our present government and our liberty is already near dead because of this government. If you are too stupid to turn things around with your vote, there are people out here like me who are willing to turn things around with guns, force and violence. We hope our method does not become necessary," he wrote. But he defined his position as commentary instead of advocacy when one supporter wrote to Turner's website, "Hey Hal instead of saying 'may' SAY you WILL KILL THEM!!!" "No no no no no. Words mean things," Turner wrote at the time. The difference between 'may' and 'will' is the difference between an opinion and a threat," he concluded. "One is lawful, the other is not!" In the current posting, Turner has taken an aggressive stance against any effort by Congress to legalize or provide a "path to citizenship" for the millions of aliens who are in the United States illegally. "Congress will not be permitted to BETRAY our nation by giving Citizenship to tens of thousands who didn't give a s--- about our other laws as they murdered, raped, robbed, dealt illegal drugs, drove without licenses or insurance, stole the social security numbers and/or identities of millions of lawful citizens and most of whom don't give a s--- enough about our country to even learn our language!" Asked about procedures involving suspected threats to members of Congress, the U.S. Secret Service told WND that it would be interested only if the threat involved someone the Service protects. All other cases would be referred to local police jurisdictions. When WND's question specifically referred to a website statement, Secret Service spokesman Darrin Blackford told WND: "We have no comment on that statement." Paul Bresson, a spokesman for the FBI, said he couldn't confirm what investigations are being pursued. "The Internet does not give anyone a license to espouse violence, but there is a certain amount of protection, First Amendment protections, that are built in and we're mindful of those," he said. He called it a "fine line," and said what the agency would do is look at all the information available and "make a determination" whether any crime might have been committed. In the earlier situation FBI spokeswoman Debbie Weierman said such circumstances generally are turned over to a "duty agent" to review, but she couldn't provide other information until and unless a charge would be filed in any case. In the current rant, Turner calls it a "right" for Americans to act in self-defense of their nation. "Members of The United States House of Representatives or United States Senate who try to grant any form of Amnesty to millions of illegal aliens are hereby notified they may as well paint a bulls-eye target on themselves. Our Bullets don't care about their sovereign power," he wrote. "This seems to be 'it' folks. I'm going to do what I have to do to protect my nation from its government. I know where all of my New Jersey Congressmen and Senators live. Do you know where yours live? If not, you better find out before January so you can scope out their neighborhoods and prepare yourselves," he said. "Those of you who, for years, have said you're 'gonna do this' or 'gonna do that' when the time comes; are about to face ugly reality. In January, 'the time' will come. In January the entire world will find out if you're real or just a bigmouth coward," he said. One reader who responded on his comment sheet asked Turner, "who's gonna pick up the fruits and clean your toilet?" To which Turner said, "Machinery can pick the crops; I clean my own toilet." Turner also declined a suggestion to post a list of addresses and provide maps "so people can protest at their homes" by saying, "Once I publish such a list, they would undoubtedly feel the need and take steps to secure themselves. If we forewarn them by publicly publishing a list, we lose the element of surprise." One other reader said, "I'm sitting here now with my 30.06 stripped down. Can do this in the dark. Don't want any grains of sand in the mechanism," he wrote. Still another said he'd forwarded Turner's comments to the FBI, to which Turner responded with a laugh. "You called the FBI about me? BIG DEAL! One can only illegally 'incite' violence when what is said is uttered in a context which lends itself to IMMINENT lawlessness. I will not be arrested because I have thus far committed no crime. Just because you don't understand the subtle delineations of the law does not mean I have broken the law. The FBI has been receiving reports about me from morons like you for six years. I'm still here. Your posting did, however, give me a chuckle!" But his posting also continued further into his plans, and his expectations for the consequences. "The pro-white movement has a habit of making martyrs of folks who take action. They hold rallies for them. They put up web sites about them. Just so we're clear, the only people authorized to do that for me after I become a martyr (alive or dead) are those who stand with me when the fight takes place. Because if you are, TODAY, 'pro-white' and you fail to stand with me in confronting our renegade government, then I say you are a coward and I don't want my name being uttered by cowards," he wrote. He said the "amnesty" would mark "the actual end of our nation." "That will erase us as a nation and I will not permit it. What about you?" he asked. One reader was quick with his response: "Where can we get some polonium-210?" he asked. Turner also carries on his website a disclaimer noting that he is considered a "public figure" which means a lot of places carry of lot of comments about him over which he has no control, including some with "virulent" perspectives. "This being the case, Mr. Turner feels it necessary to – and hereby does – DISCLAIM AND REPUDIATE any affiliation with or support of such groups." Even he didn't take his earlier statements that he may have to assassinate about half of the members of Congress and three members of the U.S. Supreme court seriously. He told WND he never bothered to make a hit list because he never planned to kill anyone. Turner also told WND earlier he'd been investigated by the Secret Service, the U.S. Marshals Service and others in the past, without results. He said that's because he's very careful to "use words such as 'may have' (or) 'might' which are opinions/observations rather than threats." "I am totally familiar with three specific U.S. Supreme Court decisions and those parameters govern what I say and write," he said. He said his comments are "uttered in a context which does not lend itself to imminent lawlessness," do not constitute a "true threat," and could be considered "political hyperbole."
Posted: December 6, 2006
1:00 a.m. Eastern
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#111. To: Jethro Tull (#93)
Last dog ain't been hung yet, JT. Besides, you can't ban me. Affirmative action laws require that at least one brown boy and one negro be a member of each forum. Freddy Mertz don't count...he's just a cigar store indian.
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Dakmar is a negro.
... and I like cyber f**k the males. -- Ponchy
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Up yours, loser. I've got a winning horse.
For pete's sake, take your business here and feel free to not share so much of your love life, it's too much information for me, man.
Is hanging the dog the same as choking the chicken?
... and I like cyber f**k the males. -- Ponchy
Is that the guy from Grand Funk Railroad?
When the going gets weird the weird turn pro. - Hunter S Thompson
But I cleaned up on election day. 1k's worth of right predictions. Mind you, I lost some money cause I betted that the republicans would hold the senate.
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If you don't like it then you can tell the 4um managment to stop fucking with my posts.
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That's David Koresh you numbskull.
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To hell with them africans, kicking us out of olduvai gorge. I can't let that go, you dig?
When the going gets weird the weird turn pro. - Hunter S Thompson
Oh, I never paid much attention to those types, just keep 'em off my property.
When the going gets weird the weird turn pro. - Hunter S Thompson
Bzzzzzt! Fails for lameness. The post was up for hours and Ponchy could have changed it at any time with the edit function. It didn't become an issue until we pointed it out and laughed about it. (See thread above.)
... and I like cyber f**k the males. -- Ponchy
For the record, I wasn't here when JT or Palolitest aka Christine edited it. Therefore, I was unable to re-edit it.
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Property? Your wife let you back into the basement?
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You were here all day. {See thread above.}
... and I like cyber f**k the males. -- Ponchy
We had a woman named Liz who tried the falsified E mail bit to try to slander a fellow poster years ago at http://Time.com/politics. Unfortunately for her, the fraud was easily detected. It is easy to monitor who where and when a post modification was made. I find it hard to believe well seasoned forum operators and interlocutors would try to do scapegoating and slander intended post modification. I would well say that a half cocked accusation like that can have a way of coming back to haunt you. I have watched carefully from where the bad intent emminates from and who here actually has an axe to grind. And it isn't Zipporah and christine that is the problem here.
Well, I'm going to call it a week. Feel free to set fire to my posts...ect... I don't really care...only made an issue out of it to show that zipporah is an inept manager with the IQ of a turnip.
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Ponchy .... when you no longer command enough respect to piss people off it's time to pack it in.
... and I like cyber f**k the males. -- Ponchy
And speaking of posters with the IQ of vegetables... You don't have a clue what's going on. JT has been fucking with my posts for about a year, now. It's become a moderately amusing game. I posted this morning, on my lunch break, and in the evening, but I suppose this is all a bit complicated for you...
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Ponchy .... I can see why it takes you 400 posts to opus.
... and I like cyber f**k the males. -- Ponchy
When the going gets weird the weird turn pro. - Hunter S Thompson
Has he gone?
Probably not. He likes to make a dramatic exit and then come back with several nit picking clean up posts. The French call it the wit of the stairway. All clods seem to manifest it in some way or the other.
... and I like cyber f**k the males. -- Ponchy
When the going gets weird the weird turn pro. - Hunter S Thompson
Fat black bucks in a wine-barrel room, Sagged and reeled and pounded on the table, THEN I SAW THE CONGO, CREEPING THROUGH THE BLACK, And a thigh-bone beating on a tin-pan gong. A roaring, epic, rag-time tune Listen to the yell of Leopold’s ghost Or Mumbo-Jumbo, God of the Congo, ... and I like cyber f**k the males. -- Ponchy
Um, yeah, that or Granny Gets Married is always good
When the going gets weird the weird turn pro. - Hunter S Thompson
Wild crap-shooters with a whoop and a call THEN I SAW THE CONGO, CREEPING THROUGH THE BLACK, A negro fairyland swung into view, A troupe of skull-faced witch-men came But the witch-men suddenly stilled the throng And they pranced with their butterfly partners there, The cake-walk royalty then began While the witch-men laughed, with a sinister air, Oh rare was the revel, and well worth while ... and I like cyber f**k the males. -- Ponchy
has ponchy been on another rampage? it looks like it. seriously - he would be much better off if he would smoke pot instead of drinking all the time.
"And this is the end of my brilliant career on the 4um..." -- ponchy 12/20/2006
But for all intents and purposes, it is just about that easy. The only thing that is necessary is to add a few wordings and cull a few of the later amendments so there is less, or no wiggle room for politicians to screw with it. The Constitution didn't fail us, the people that were elected and did the electing hold that responsibility. Off the bat, I'd say repeal the 17th amendment, and make sufferage dependant on being a net positive contributor to the tax base. Eliminate any governmental facilitation of business. Abolish any type of taxes upon personal property. Disband the Federal Reserve and return all of it's monetary responsibilities to the Treasury, issuing money strictly based upon whatever private concerns proffer for the creation of coinage and what the government aquires through the imposition of tariffs and interstate management fees (i.e. they could concievably place toll crossings at state border crossings on the interstat system since they essentially built it with the aggregate of taxpayers dollars). You get the picture, we basically need a "reset", or a sunsetting of huge amounts of bureaucracy...
"pound pastrami, can kraut, six bagels – bring home for Emma"
You didn't answer the question. I may have it wrong, as Jim Gannon is bald, but what's up with "cyber fucking males"? Are you a fag?
that's where it must begin. none of this madness could have been done had we not handed our country over to the bankers and adopted a fiat currency system. they'll be no resetting until/unless there's a complete economic collapse. then and only then do we have a chance of a redo.
ponchy is 'ghey', but i think that is the same thing. also, his nickname is 'horse humper' and i suspect there is a story behind that too.
"And this is the end of my brilliant career on the 4um..." -- ponchy 12/20/2006
also, his nickname is 'horse humper' and i suspect there is a story behind that too. Hmmm. Seems like "ponchy" is quite a "colorful" character, and would have been a much less bitter person if only he had been given a part in humpback mountain.
It was more of a vague non-response. Something that makes you go "hmmm".
ponchy is only bitter because no one likes him and everyone laughs at him. he will be fine after he is reincarnated as different person with a new personality. although i suspect he will first have to spend a few lifetimes as Ted Haggard's hemmoroid cream.
"And this is the end of my brilliant career on the 4um..." -- ponchy 12/20/2006
Look, you cretin, I'm continental op, and I didn't write that. Jethro Tull edited my post. "Are you a fag?" No. JT likes to fuck with my posts so that it looks like I'm writing total nonsense. He can do that because he has moderator-powers on this site. Don't that make you feel safe?
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ponchy, you did write it. it went up that way and it never channged. you just tried to take it back when people started cat calling over it. just let it go. if people weren't laughing at you over your post, they would just be laughing at you over something else.
"And this is the end of my brilliant career on the 4um..." -- ponchy 12/20/2006
Let me explain this to you; I don't care what kind of problem a person of your malicious and arrogant nature presents, it is just window dressing to your show of doing the posting version of the screeching monkey in the tree throwing handfuls of his own fresh shit at people below him anyway. And I hope that metaphor is not too complex for you to grasp yourself.
Hey, I admit it. What else would you have me do, here and at LP? Why should I engaged in serious and polite discussion with you?
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#112. To: Ponchy, Black Sands (#111)
Affirmative action laws require that at least one brown boy and one negro be a member of each forum.
#113. To: Dakmar (#110)
He knows where you live. Now get lost, you yapping cur...
#114. To: Redheadedstranger (#111)
Freddy Mertz don't count..
#115. To: Redheadedstranger (#33)
"I like cyber f**k the males."
#116. To: Ponchy (#111)
Last dog ain't been hung yet, JT.
#117. To: Redheadedstranger (#113)
#118. To: Fred Mertz (#114)
I've got a winning horse.
#119. To: Ferret Mike (#115)
#120. To: Dakmar (#117)
#121. To: Minerva (#112)
Dakmar is a negro.
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#123. To: Redheadedstranger (#119)
If you don't like it then you can tell the 4um managment to stop fucking with my posts.
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#125. To: Dakmar (#122)
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#127. To: Minerva (#123)
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#133. To: Minerva (#131)
#134. To: For Con....this is the coolest Tube I've come across in ages. It's a pity he's on dial up and can't load these suckers. (#133)
#135. To: Jethro Tull (#133)
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#136. To: Jethro Tull (#134)
do you ever shop at kroger?
#137. To: Dakmar (#121)
To hell with them africans, kicking us out of olduvai gorge. I can't let that go, you dig?
Barrel-house kings, with feet unstable,
Pounded on the table,
Beat an empty barrel with the handle of a broom,
Hard as they were able,
Boom, boom, BOOM,
With a silk umbrella and the handle of a broom,
Boomlay, boomlay, boomlay, BOOM.
THEN I had religion, THEN I had a vision.
I could not turn from their revel in derision.
CUTTING THROUGH THE FOREST WITH A GOLDEN TRACK.
Then along that riverbank
A thousand miles
Tattooed cannibals danced in files;
Then I heard the boom of the blood-lust song
And "BLOOD" screamed the whistles and the fifes of the warriors,
"BLOOD" screamed the skull-faced, lean witch-doctors,
"Whirl ye the deadly voo-doo rattle,
Harry the uplands,
Steal all the cattle,
Rattle-rattle, rattle-rattle,
Bing.
Boomlay, boomlay, boomlay, BOOM,"
From the mouth of the Congo
To the Mountains of the Moon.
Death is an Elephant,
Torch-eyed and horrible,
Foam-flanked and terrible.
BOOM, steal the pygmies,
BOOM, kill the Arabs,
BOOM, kill the white men,
HOO, HOO, HOO.
Burning in Hell for his hand-maimed host.
Hear how the demons chuckle and yell
Cutting his hands off, down in Hell.
Listen to the creepy proclamation,
Blown through the lairs of the forest-nation,
Blown past the white-ants’ hill of clay,
Blown past the marsh where the butterflies play:—
"Be careful what you do,
And all of the other
Gods of the Congo,
Mumbo-Jumbo will hoo-doo you,
Mumbo-Jumbo will hoo-doo you,
Mumbo-Jumbo will hoo-doo you."
#138. To: Minerva (#137)
#139. To: Dakmar (#138)
Danced the juba in their gambling-hall
And laughed fit to kill, and shook the town,
And guyed the policemen and laughed them down
With a boomlay, boomlay, boomlay, BOOM.
CUTTING THROUGH THE FOREST WITH A GOLDEN TRACK.
A minstrel river
Where dreams come true.
The ebony palace soared on high
Through the blossoming trees to the evening sky.
The inlaid porches and casements shone
With gold and ivory and elephant-bone.
And the black crowd laughed till their sides were sore
At the baboon butler in the agate door,
And the well-known tunes of the parrot band
That trilled on the bushes of that magic land.
Through the agate doorway in suits of flame,
Yea, long-tailed coats with a gold-leaf crust
And hats that were covered with diamond-dust.
And the crowd in the court gave a whoop and a call
And danced the juba from wall to wall.
With a stern cold glare, and a stern old song:—
"Mumbo-Jumbo will hoo-doo you." . . .
. Just then from the doorway, as fat as shotes,
Came the cake-walk princes in their long red coats,
Canes with a brilliant lacquer shine,
And tall silk hats that were red as wine.
Coal-black maidens with pearls in their hair,
Knee-skirts trimmed with the jassamine sweet,
And bells on their ankles and little black feet.
And the couples railed at the chant and the frown
Of the witch-men lean, and laughed them down.
(O rare was the revel, and well worth while
That made those glowering witch-men smile.)
To walk for a cake that was tall as a man
To the tune of "Boomlay, boomlay, BOOM,"
And sang with the scalawags prancing there:—
"Walk with care, walk with care,
Or Mumbo-Jumbo, God of the Congo,
And all of the other
Gods of the Congo,
Mumbo-Jumbo will hoo-doo you.
Beware, beware, walk with care,
Boomlay, boomlay, boomlay, boom.
Boomlay, boomlay, boomlay, boom,
Boomlay, boomlay, boomlay, boom,
Boomlay, boomlay, boomlay,
BOOM."
That made those glowering witch-men smile.
#140. To: Jethro Tull (#133)
#141. To: Elliott Jackalope (#40)
And please, let's try to be a little more sophisticated than simply saying "let's go back to the Constitution", since that document did not prevent this current situation from coming to pass.
#142. To: Redheadedstranger, Zipporah (#54)
YOu'd better being staying on good terms with the 4um managment son. OTherwise zipporah will be editing your posts and reading your private insite emails, too.
You appear to be a major trouble maker...and I'm getting really pissed. - GoldiLox, 7/27/2006
#143. To: Axenolith, Elliott Jackalope (#141)
Disband the Federal Reserve and return all of it's monetary responsibilities to the Treasury,
#144. To: FormerLurker (#142)
I may have it wrong, as Jim Gannon is bald, but what's up with "cyber fucking males"? Are you a fag?
#145. To: Morgana le Fay (#144)
ponchy is 'ghey', but i think that is the same thing.
You appear to be a major trouble maker...and I'm getting really pissed. - GoldiLox, 7/27/2006
#146. To: Zipporah (#47)
Uh this should be an interesting reply :P
You appear to be a major trouble maker...and I'm getting really pissed. - GoldiLox, 7/27/2006
#147. To: FormerLurker (#145)
Hmmm. Seems like "ponchy" is quite a "colorful" character, and would have been a much less bitter person if only he had been given a part in humpback mountain.
#148. To: FormerLurker (#142)
but what's up with "cyber fucking males"?
#149. To: Redheadedstranger (#148)
Look, you cretin, I'm continental op, and I didn't write that. Jethro Tull edited my post.
#150. To: Redheadedstranger (#130)
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"You don't have a clue what's going on. JT has been fucking with my posts for about a year, now. It's become a moderately amusing game. I posted this morning, on my lunch break, and in the evening, but I suppose this is all a bit complicated for you... "
#151. To: Ferret Mike (#150)
And I hope that metaphor is not too complex for you to grasp yourself.
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