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Title: 'Assassination' schedule announced for Congress-Radio-show host (Hal Turner) says leaders won't be allowed to 'betray' nation
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URL Source: http://www.wnd.com/news/article.asp?ARTICLE_ID=53245
Published: Jan 3, 2007
Author: Media Matters
Post Date: 2007-01-03 20:04:49 by Zipporah
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'Assassination' schedule announced for Congress Radio-show host says leaders won't be allowed to 'betray' nation © 2006 WorldNetDaily.com A radio talk-show entertainer whose earlier statements that he "may" have to assassinate members of Congress if the wrong people were elected Nov. 7 now has set a timetable for those killings. In a statement on his website, Hal Turner noted that a newspaper has reported that a bill granting amnesty to illegal aliens is expected to be enacted in January, when the Democratic Party takes control of the U.S. Senate and House. "ANY MEMBER OF CONGRESS WHO INTRODUCES, CO-SPONSORS OR VOTES IN FAVOR OF ANY SUCH AMNESTY WILL BE DECLARED A DOMESTIC ENEMY AND WILL BE CONSIDERED A LEGITIMATE TARGET FOR ASSASSINATION," Turner posted on his website. "Members of Congress and the Senate will NOT be permitted to BETRAY our nation by simply GIVING AWAY the most cherished aspect of America, Citizenship, to millions of people who cared so little for what Citizenship means that they came here against our law," he continued. Several weeks ago, Turner incited much discussion when he posted the following: "We may have to ASSASSINATE some of the people you elect on Nov. 7! This could be your LAST ELECTION CHANCE, to save this Republic… "Sorry to have to be so blunt, but the country is in mortal danger from our present government and our liberty is already near dead because of this government. If you are too stupid to turn things around with your vote, there are people out here like me who are willing to turn things around with guns, force and violence. We hope our method does not become necessary," he wrote. But he defined his position as commentary instead of advocacy when one supporter wrote to Turner's website, "Hey Hal instead of saying 'may' SAY you WILL KILL THEM!!!" "No no no no no. Words mean things," Turner wrote at the time. The difference between 'may' and 'will' is the difference between an opinion and a threat," he concluded. "One is lawful, the other is not!" In the current posting, Turner has taken an aggressive stance against any effort by Congress to legalize or provide a "path to citizenship" for the millions of aliens who are in the United States illegally. "Congress will not be permitted to BETRAY our nation by giving Citizenship to tens of thousands who didn't give a s--- about our other laws as they murdered, raped, robbed, dealt illegal drugs, drove without licenses or insurance, stole the social security numbers and/or identities of millions of lawful citizens and most of whom don't give a s--- enough about our country to even learn our language!" Asked about procedures involving suspected threats to members of Congress, the U.S. Secret Service told WND that it would be interested only if the threat involved someone the Service protects. All other cases would be referred to local police jurisdictions. When WND's question specifically referred to a website statement, Secret Service spokesman Darrin Blackford told WND: "We have no comment on that statement." Paul Bresson, a spokesman for the FBI, said he couldn't confirm what investigations are being pursued. "The Internet does not give anyone a license to espouse violence, but there is a certain amount of protection, First Amendment protections, that are built in and we're mindful of those," he said. He called it a "fine line," and said what the agency would do is look at all the information available and "make a determination" whether any crime might have been committed. In the earlier situation FBI spokeswoman Debbie Weierman said such circumstances generally are turned over to a "duty agent" to review, but she couldn't provide other information until and unless a charge would be filed in any case. In the current rant, Turner calls it a "right" for Americans to act in self-defense of their nation. "Members of The United States House of Representatives or United States Senate who try to grant any form of Amnesty to millions of illegal aliens are hereby notified they may as well paint a bulls-eye target on themselves. Our Bullets don't care about their sovereign power," he wrote. "This seems to be 'it' folks. I'm going to do what I have to do to protect my nation from its government. I know where all of my New Jersey Congressmen and Senators live. Do you know where yours live? If not, you better find out before January so you can scope out their neighborhoods and prepare yourselves," he said. "Those of you who, for years, have said you're 'gonna do this' or 'gonna do that' when the time comes; are about to face ugly reality. In January, 'the time' will come. In January the entire world will find out if you're real or just a bigmouth coward," he said. One reader who responded on his comment sheet asked Turner, "who's gonna pick up the fruits and clean your toilet?" To which Turner said, "Machinery can pick the crops; I clean my own toilet." Turner also declined a suggestion to post a list of addresses and provide maps "so people can protest at their homes" by saying, "Once I publish such a list, they would undoubtedly feel the need and take steps to secure themselves. If we forewarn them by publicly publishing a list, we lose the element of surprise." One other reader said, "I'm sitting here now with my 30.06 stripped down. Can do this in the dark. Don't want any grains of sand in the mechanism," he wrote. Still another said he'd forwarded Turner's comments to the FBI, to which Turner responded with a laugh. "You called the FBI about me? BIG DEAL! One can only illegally 'incite' violence when what is said is uttered in a context which lends itself to IMMINENT lawlessness. I will not be arrested because I have thus far committed no crime. Just because you don't understand the subtle delineations of the law does not mean I have broken the law. The FBI has been receiving reports about me from morons like you for six years. I'm still here. Your posting did, however, give me a chuckle!" But his posting also continued further into his plans, and his expectations for the consequences. "The pro-white movement has a habit of making martyrs of folks who take action. They hold rallies for them. They put up web sites about them. Just so we're clear, the only people authorized to do that for me after I become a martyr (alive or dead) are those who stand with me when the fight takes place. Because if you are, TODAY, 'pro-white' and you fail to stand with me in confronting our renegade government, then I say you are a coward and I don't want my name being uttered by cowards," he wrote. He said the "amnesty" would mark "the actual end of our nation." "That will erase us as a nation and I will not permit it. What about you?" he asked. One reader was quick with his response: "Where can we get some polonium-210?" he asked. Turner also carries on his website a disclaimer noting that he is considered a "public figure" which means a lot of places carry of lot of comments about him over which he has no control, including some with "virulent" perspectives. "This being the case, Mr. Turner feels it necessary to – and hereby does – DISCLAIM AND REPUDIATE any affiliation with or support of such groups." Even he didn't take his earlier statements that he may have to assassinate about half of the members of Congress and three members of the U.S. Supreme court seriously. He told WND he never bothered to make a hit list because he never planned to kill anyone. Turner also told WND earlier he'd been investigated by the Secret Service, the U.S. Marshals Service and others in the past, without results. He said that's because he's very careful to "use words such as 'may have' (or) 'might' which are opinions/observations rather than threats." "I am totally familiar with three specific U.S. Supreme Court decisions and those parameters govern what I say and write," he said. He said his comments are "uttered in a context which does not lend itself to imminent lawlessness," do not constitute a "true threat," and could be considered "political hyperbole."
Posted: December 6, 2006
1:00 a.m. Eastern
Hal Turner
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#199. To: Ferret Mike (#196)
Your whole life, and all your neurosys are a reaction against your parents due to the traumatization you suffered as a child. You really need to overcome it all...realize that it's okay to hate people, and take a drink every couple of hours.
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Have you? What part of indicating that there is not a part of you in any form that is bothersome or a source of worry for me do you not understand? You can bark at the end of your chain all you want where ever and however you wish, and all you will ever be is a target rich environment politically and socially for me. One that is quite amusing too I might add. Your problems remain your problems, not mine anyway you look at it.
Ferret...stop responding. It's so easy. Bob Wallace put me on bozo the moment I posted to him.
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I doubt I would be fond of booze even had I not dealt with a toxic alcoholic growing up. Some people just naturally don't like it. I find hangovers to be a loathsome self inflicted injury and are a big reason I don't find yeast body waste fun to consume. As far as hate goes, it is not a tool to be uese indiscriminately. Even when justified, hatred is a game consuming the same depth and scope of energy and commitment of time and effort as love. I chose my battles much more wisely then to mis-use hatred as a tool to create wedge issue politics or to take on things that need changing. If you don't know that, then dispite what you think, you don't know me very well at all.
You never learned to drink. It comes naturally to some people, and some people must learn, just like they must learn to play a musical instrument. "I find hangovers to be a loathsome self inflicted injury" Good for your heart. "As far as hate goes, it is not a tool to be uese indiscriminately." Most people should not be allowed to use it at all. In cluding you.
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In your own self centered bubble this may well be true, but the only thing I can really be admonished here for is for wasting time arguing with an idiot. Because no matter how right one may be, if you do it long enough, deeply enough a point in time comes when the objective lurker can no longer differentiate which one is the nut, and which one is the nut shell cracker.
From your pov. From the lurker's pov you look just as big a jackass. It's been proven that I attracted traffic to a forum, and you don't.
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Heh, wrong. I was in the U.S. Army nine years and have had my experiances getting drunk in Rick's Lounge on Hay Street in Fayetteville lusting after the strippers to be one of the boys in the clique I ran with at the time. I am just smart enough after that experiance to look beyond that narrow, channeled world view to find something more meaningful and lasting then that. ;- D
So it's okay to hate some things, as long as YOU define what they ARE, right? A simple dictionary definition is sufficient. The more corrupt the state, the more numerous the laws. – Tacitus
Negative, experience. Real drinking is done alone.
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Fine. Now explain why we should traitor and killers, and why we should not hate fat slobs, and negros?
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Yeah, I did notice how much in demand your services are. ;-D The jester was always an important part of the royal court to interject humorous lampooning and antics to lighten things up and to break the mood. So your simular role here is not begrudged by me at all. So, why on Earth would you think that would be otherwise enough to pose that as a point of order here?
So is real glue huffing.
No, you haven't because you only know me on three or four forums, under one sceen name.
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like that song in South Pacific YOU'VE GOT TO BE CAREFULLY TAUGHT
The more corrupt the state, the more numerous the laws. – Tacitus
I wouldn't know...
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If you don't know by now, I doubt if I could help you. You could start a self-help program with the musical South Pacific, YOU'VE GOT TO BE CAREFULLY TAUGHT.
The more corrupt the state, the more numerous the laws. – Tacitus
I know lots of solo drinkers, huffers and cranksters, they all share a common trait called the perma-tweak. No matter how hard they try, normal sane thought has a distortion to it as the brain damage the behavior slowly damages the seat of reason, the human brain. I don't want to go there, so you are welcome to your pastime of solo drinking, but I sure don't want any of it.
YOU WERE CAREFULLLY BRAINWASHED.
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Drinking is like that. It either makes you or breaks you. So far, I ain't broke.
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Gee, I feel so deprived, not witnessing you at your most depraved moments online. ;-D
Depraved seems teh wrong adjective. I could buy kooky, stupid, asshole...ect. Not depraved...ridiculous...
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As drinking involves the organ responsible for that highly objective observation, I remain sceptical of this outlook of yours'.
Loathing millions of people whom you have never met is depraved, trust me. There is nothing romatic about being a bigot.
It depends on the genetics, of course. A lot of people can't hold the beast down, but I come from a long line of drunks (on my mothers side) and a long line of abstainers and it all balances out in the end...
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Nothing romantic about being a tree-hugger. But we just keep on keeping on, don't we, Ferret?
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Baptists are normally really good at that. Fortunately, my grandmother was a schoolteacher and stressed education. (As a teenager I babysat in homes w/o a dictionary or even a bookshelf, and they were always the most intolerant families in the neighborhood.) Education and travel are wonderful ways to detox; for whatever remains, there's prayer and fasting.
The more corrupt the state, the more numerous the laws. – Tacitus
Non-violent civil disobedience is not romantic. Fortunately that is not why I have used it as a tool to try to effect change. It is real work and if one tries to do it to fine romance, adventure, recognition and excitement one soon abandons the task at hand. You have to really love what you are fighting for and really believe in it even to the point it can cost you everything. Why on Earth would you think that after I have done what I have done I wouldn't know all the positives and negatives of using this sort of political and social tools?
Yes, they are. Have a drink.
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Ferret you're a master of missing the point. But thanks anyway. Your arguements justify my "unromantic bigotry," perfectly. Btw. do you think it'se eazy being a bigot? Huh?
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You mean I am better at jousting then you are? I know what the points are, that I don't metaphorically allow them access to my liver or other innerds does not mean I don't appreciate the damage these 'points' can do. It merely means I don't want them to do it.
No thanks, my red haired cousin died of alcoholism, I'll pass.
The more corrupt the state, the more numerous the laws. – Tacitus
The fact stil remains that you made my case for me...
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Fortunately my hair is dark brown.
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Yes I do. If one can't control irrationally impulsive behavior and put your mind in gear to critically evaluate it, putting your mouth in motion to engage in it is easy to do.
That's because you don't acknowledge bigotry as being as reasonable a doctrine as enviromentalism.
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Bigotry has much the same socio-economic motivation to it as the loot pillage and burn ethos enviromental advocacy combats. Environmental advocacy works to protect wealth all life share in common on this planet, much as advocacy combatting racism does.
His last phone number was disconnected and he hasn't given me his new one...if he has one, that is. He hasn't replied to my PMessages either. I did hear from him about 2 months ago. I've given up loaning money...live and learn and pass it on.
In other words, you're saying it was a unique form of self-preservation. I agree with your analysis one hundred percent. "Environmental advocacy works to protect wealth all life share in common on this planet, much as advocacy combatting racism does" And here, you're mistaken. You and your buddies may have added anti-racialism to the platform in the fifty years, but previous to that, enviromentalism began with the tribal medicine man announcing to his people that they would run out of resoucres if they did not give him silver and sacrifice a virgin to the moon goddess. THAT is where environmentalism comes from.
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#1 Reason I owe a good friend money and until I get it paid I am not going to be wasting time posting on the internet. Enjoy the weather... http://libertysflame.com/cgi-bin/homepage.cgi?h=TLBSHOW Now I have told you before it happens so that, when it happens, you may believe TLBSHOW posted on 2007-01-10 22:57:35 ET Reply Trace Private Reply Looks like you're going to get your money back, Freddy. I'd trust TLBSHOW wiht my life...what there is of it...anyway...
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No, it turned you into the clown of the internet. And we're glad you're not broke or we would have to let buckeroo back on.
... and I like cyber f**k the males. -- Ponchy
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#200. To: Redheadedstranger (#197)
"have I ever threatended you with violence, warlock?"
#201. To: Ferret Mike (#200)
#202. To: Redheadedstranger (#199)
"Your whole life, and all your neurosys are a reaction against your parents due to the traumatization you suffered as a child. You really need to overcome it all...realize that it's okay to hate people, and take a drink every couple of hours."
#203. To: Ferret Mike (#202)
Some people just naturally don't like it.
#204. To: Redheadedstranger (#201)
"Ferret...stop responding. It's so easy."
#205. To: Ferret Mike (#204)
but the only thing I can really be admonished here for is for wasting time arguing with an idiot
#206. To: Redheadedstranger (#203)
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"You never learned to drink."
#207. To: Redheadedstranger (#198)
I hate treason and murder
#208. To: Ferret Mike (#206)
I was in the U.S. Army nine years and have had my experiances getting drunk in Rick's Lounge on Hay Street in Fayetteville lusting after the strippers to be one of the boys in the clique I ran with at the time.
#209. To: robin (#207)
#210. To: Redheadedstranger (#205)
"It's been proven that I attracted traffic to a forum, and you don't."
#211. To: Redheadedstranger (#208)
"Negative, experience. Real drinking is done alone."
#212. To: Ferret Mike (#210)
Yeah, I did notice how much in demand your services are. ;-D
#213. To: Ferret Mike (#196)
#214. To: Ferret Mike (#211)
So is real glue huffing.
#215. To: Redheadedstranger (#209)
#216. To: Redheadedstranger (#214)
"I wouldn't know..."
#217. To: robin (#215)
#218. To: Ferret Mike (#216)
but I sure don't want any of it.
#219. To: Redheadedstranger (#212)
"No, you haven't because you only know me on three or four forums, under one sceen name."
#220. To: Ferret Mike (#219)
#221. To: Redheadedstranger (#218)
"Drinking is like that. It either makes you or breaks you. So far, I ain't broke."
#222. To: Redheadedstranger (#220)
"Depraved seems teh wrong adjective. I could buy kooky, stupid, asshole...ect. Not depraved...ridiculous..."
#223. To: Ferret Mike (#221)
I remain sceptical of this outlook of yours'
#224. To: Ferret Mike (#222)
There is nothing romatic about being a bigot.
#225. To: Redheadedstranger (#217)
#226. To: Redheadedstranger (#224)
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"Nothing romantic about being a tree-hugger."
#227. To: robin (#225)
Baptists are normally really good at that.
#228. To: Ferret Mike (#226)
#229. To: Redheadedstranger (#228)
"Ferret you're a master of missing the point."
#230. To: Redheadedstranger (#227)
#231. To: Ferret Mike (#229)
#232. To: robin (#230)
#233. To: Redheadedstranger (#228)
"do you think it'se eazy being a bigot?"
#234. To: Ferret Mike (#233)
Yes I do.
#235. To: Redheadedstranger (#234)
"That's because you don't acknowledge bigotry as being as reasonable a doctrine as enviromentalism.
#236. To: Redheadedstranger (#187)
You were in his area, recently and didn't stop by to visit?
#237. To: Ferret Mike (#235)
Bigotry has much the same socio-economic motivation to it as the loot pillage and burn ethos enviromental advocacy combats.
#238. To: Fred Mertz (#236)
#3. To: continental op (#0)
#239. To: Redheadedstranger (#218)
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Drinking is like that. It either makes you or breaks you. So far, I ain't broke.
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