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Title: 'Assassination' schedule announced for Congress-Radio-show host (Hal Turner) says leaders won't be allowed to 'betray' nation
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URL Source: http://www.wnd.com/news/article.asp?ARTICLE_ID=53245
Published: Jan 3, 2007
Author: Media Matters
Post Date: 2007-01-03 20:04:49 by Zipporah
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'Assassination' schedule announced for Congress Radio-show host says leaders won't be allowed to 'betray' nation © 2006 WorldNetDaily.com A radio talk-show entertainer whose earlier statements that he "may" have to assassinate members of Congress if the wrong people were elected Nov. 7 now has set a timetable for those killings. In a statement on his website, Hal Turner noted that a newspaper has reported that a bill granting amnesty to illegal aliens is expected to be enacted in January, when the Democratic Party takes control of the U.S. Senate and House. "ANY MEMBER OF CONGRESS WHO INTRODUCES, CO-SPONSORS OR VOTES IN FAVOR OF ANY SUCH AMNESTY WILL BE DECLARED A DOMESTIC ENEMY AND WILL BE CONSIDERED A LEGITIMATE TARGET FOR ASSASSINATION," Turner posted on his website. "Members of Congress and the Senate will NOT be permitted to BETRAY our nation by simply GIVING AWAY the most cherished aspect of America, Citizenship, to millions of people who cared so little for what Citizenship means that they came here against our law," he continued. Several weeks ago, Turner incited much discussion when he posted the following: "We may have to ASSASSINATE some of the people you elect on Nov. 7! This could be your LAST ELECTION CHANCE, to save this Republic… "Sorry to have to be so blunt, but the country is in mortal danger from our present government and our liberty is already near dead because of this government. If you are too stupid to turn things around with your vote, there are people out here like me who are willing to turn things around with guns, force and violence. We hope our method does not become necessary," he wrote. But he defined his position as commentary instead of advocacy when one supporter wrote to Turner's website, "Hey Hal instead of saying 'may' SAY you WILL KILL THEM!!!" "No no no no no. Words mean things," Turner wrote at the time. The difference between 'may' and 'will' is the difference between an opinion and a threat," he concluded. "One is lawful, the other is not!" In the current posting, Turner has taken an aggressive stance against any effort by Congress to legalize or provide a "path to citizenship" for the millions of aliens who are in the United States illegally. "Congress will not be permitted to BETRAY our nation by giving Citizenship to tens of thousands who didn't give a s--- about our other laws as they murdered, raped, robbed, dealt illegal drugs, drove without licenses or insurance, stole the social security numbers and/or identities of millions of lawful citizens and most of whom don't give a s--- enough about our country to even learn our language!" Asked about procedures involving suspected threats to members of Congress, the U.S. Secret Service told WND that it would be interested only if the threat involved someone the Service protects. All other cases would be referred to local police jurisdictions. When WND's question specifically referred to a website statement, Secret Service spokesman Darrin Blackford told WND: "We have no comment on that statement." Paul Bresson, a spokesman for the FBI, said he couldn't confirm what investigations are being pursued. "The Internet does not give anyone a license to espouse violence, but there is a certain amount of protection, First Amendment protections, that are built in and we're mindful of those," he said. He called it a "fine line," and said what the agency would do is look at all the information available and "make a determination" whether any crime might have been committed. In the earlier situation FBI spokeswoman Debbie Weierman said such circumstances generally are turned over to a "duty agent" to review, but she couldn't provide other information until and unless a charge would be filed in any case. In the current rant, Turner calls it a "right" for Americans to act in self-defense of their nation. "Members of The United States House of Representatives or United States Senate who try to grant any form of Amnesty to millions of illegal aliens are hereby notified they may as well paint a bulls-eye target on themselves. Our Bullets don't care about their sovereign power," he wrote. "This seems to be 'it' folks. I'm going to do what I have to do to protect my nation from its government. I know where all of my New Jersey Congressmen and Senators live. Do you know where yours live? If not, you better find out before January so you can scope out their neighborhoods and prepare yourselves," he said. "Those of you who, for years, have said you're 'gonna do this' or 'gonna do that' when the time comes; are about to face ugly reality. In January, 'the time' will come. In January the entire world will find out if you're real or just a bigmouth coward," he said. One reader who responded on his comment sheet asked Turner, "who's gonna pick up the fruits and clean your toilet?" To which Turner said, "Machinery can pick the crops; I clean my own toilet." Turner also declined a suggestion to post a list of addresses and provide maps "so people can protest at their homes" by saying, "Once I publish such a list, they would undoubtedly feel the need and take steps to secure themselves. If we forewarn them by publicly publishing a list, we lose the element of surprise." One other reader said, "I'm sitting here now with my 30.06 stripped down. Can do this in the dark. Don't want any grains of sand in the mechanism," he wrote. Still another said he'd forwarded Turner's comments to the FBI, to which Turner responded with a laugh. "You called the FBI about me? BIG DEAL! One can only illegally 'incite' violence when what is said is uttered in a context which lends itself to IMMINENT lawlessness. I will not be arrested because I have thus far committed no crime. Just because you don't understand the subtle delineations of the law does not mean I have broken the law. The FBI has been receiving reports about me from morons like you for six years. I'm still here. Your posting did, however, give me a chuckle!" But his posting also continued further into his plans, and his expectations for the consequences. "The pro-white movement has a habit of making martyrs of folks who take action. They hold rallies for them. They put up web sites about them. Just so we're clear, the only people authorized to do that for me after I become a martyr (alive or dead) are those who stand with me when the fight takes place. Because if you are, TODAY, 'pro-white' and you fail to stand with me in confronting our renegade government, then I say you are a coward and I don't want my name being uttered by cowards," he wrote. He said the "amnesty" would mark "the actual end of our nation." "That will erase us as a nation and I will not permit it. What about you?" he asked. One reader was quick with his response: "Where can we get some polonium-210?" he asked. Turner also carries on his website a disclaimer noting that he is considered a "public figure" which means a lot of places carry of lot of comments about him over which he has no control, including some with "virulent" perspectives. "This being the case, Mr. Turner feels it necessary to – and hereby does – DISCLAIM AND REPUDIATE any affiliation with or support of such groups." Even he didn't take his earlier statements that he may have to assassinate about half of the members of Congress and three members of the U.S. Supreme court seriously. He told WND he never bothered to make a hit list because he never planned to kill anyone. Turner also told WND earlier he'd been investigated by the Secret Service, the U.S. Marshals Service and others in the past, without results. He said that's because he's very careful to "use words such as 'may have' (or) 'might' which are opinions/observations rather than threats." "I am totally familiar with three specific U.S. Supreme Court decisions and those parameters govern what I say and write," he said. He said his comments are "uttered in a context which does not lend itself to imminent lawlessness," do not constitute a "true threat," and could be considered "political hyperbole."
Posted: December 6, 2006
1:00 a.m. Eastern
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#213. To: Ferret Mike (#196)
like that song in South Pacific YOU'VE GOT TO BE CAREFULLY TAUGHT
The more corrupt the state, the more numerous the laws. – Tacitus
I wouldn't know...
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If you don't know by now, I doubt if I could help you. You could start a self-help program with the musical South Pacific, YOU'VE GOT TO BE CAREFULLY TAUGHT.
The more corrupt the state, the more numerous the laws. – Tacitus
I know lots of solo drinkers, huffers and cranksters, they all share a common trait called the perma-tweak. No matter how hard they try, normal sane thought has a distortion to it as the brain damage the behavior slowly damages the seat of reason, the human brain. I don't want to go there, so you are welcome to your pastime of solo drinking, but I sure don't want any of it.
YOU WERE CAREFULLLY BRAINWASHED.
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Drinking is like that. It either makes you or breaks you. So far, I ain't broke.
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Gee, I feel so deprived, not witnessing you at your most depraved moments online. ;-D
Depraved seems teh wrong adjective. I could buy kooky, stupid, asshole...ect. Not depraved...ridiculous...
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As drinking involves the organ responsible for that highly objective observation, I remain sceptical of this outlook of yours'.
Loathing millions of people whom you have never met is depraved, trust me. There is nothing romatic about being a bigot.
It depends on the genetics, of course. A lot of people can't hold the beast down, but I come from a long line of drunks (on my mothers side) and a long line of abstainers and it all balances out in the end...
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Nothing romantic about being a tree-hugger. But we just keep on keeping on, don't we, Ferret?
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Baptists are normally really good at that. Fortunately, my grandmother was a schoolteacher and stressed education. (As a teenager I babysat in homes w/o a dictionary or even a bookshelf, and they were always the most intolerant families in the neighborhood.) Education and travel are wonderful ways to detox; for whatever remains, there's prayer and fasting.
The more corrupt the state, the more numerous the laws. – Tacitus
Non-violent civil disobedience is not romantic. Fortunately that is not why I have used it as a tool to try to effect change. It is real work and if one tries to do it to fine romance, adventure, recognition and excitement one soon abandons the task at hand. You have to really love what you are fighting for and really believe in it even to the point it can cost you everything. Why on Earth would you think that after I have done what I have done I wouldn't know all the positives and negatives of using this sort of political and social tools?
Yes, they are. Have a drink.
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Ferret you're a master of missing the point. But thanks anyway. Your arguements justify my "unromantic bigotry," perfectly. Btw. do you think it'se eazy being a bigot? Huh?
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You mean I am better at jousting then you are? I know what the points are, that I don't metaphorically allow them access to my liver or other innerds does not mean I don't appreciate the damage these 'points' can do. It merely means I don't want them to do it.
No thanks, my red haired cousin died of alcoholism, I'll pass.
The more corrupt the state, the more numerous the laws. – Tacitus
The fact stil remains that you made my case for me...
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Fortunately my hair is dark brown.
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Yes I do. If one can't control irrationally impulsive behavior and put your mind in gear to critically evaluate it, putting your mouth in motion to engage in it is easy to do.
That's because you don't acknowledge bigotry as being as reasonable a doctrine as enviromentalism.
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Bigotry has much the same socio-economic motivation to it as the loot pillage and burn ethos enviromental advocacy combats. Environmental advocacy works to protect wealth all life share in common on this planet, much as advocacy combatting racism does.
His last phone number was disconnected and he hasn't given me his new one...if he has one, that is. He hasn't replied to my PMessages either. I did hear from him about 2 months ago. I've given up loaning money...live and learn and pass it on.
In other words, you're saying it was a unique form of self-preservation. I agree with your analysis one hundred percent. "Environmental advocacy works to protect wealth all life share in common on this planet, much as advocacy combatting racism does" And here, you're mistaken. You and your buddies may have added anti-racialism to the platform in the fifty years, but previous to that, enviromentalism began with the tribal medicine man announcing to his people that they would run out of resoucres if they did not give him silver and sacrifice a virgin to the moon goddess. THAT is where environmentalism comes from.
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#1 Reason I owe a good friend money and until I get it paid I am not going to be wasting time posting on the internet. Enjoy the weather... http://libertysflame.com/cgi-bin/homepage.cgi?h=TLBSHOW Now I have told you before it happens so that, when it happens, you may believe TLBSHOW posted on 2007-01-10 22:57:35 ET Reply Trace Private Reply Looks like you're going to get your money back, Freddy. I'd trust TLBSHOW wiht my life...what there is of it...anyway...
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No, it turned you into the clown of the internet. And we're glad you're not broke or we would have to let buckeroo back on.
... and I like cyber f**k the males. -- Ponchy
How come internet clowns are always dumb, nasty drunks like Ponchy? Why can't we get a persoanable, philosophical pot smoker for a change?
... and I like cyber f**k the males. -- Ponchy
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... and I like cyber f**k the males. -- Ponchy
that's a very good question, Minerva. ;)
Ponchy Doodle on the farm Ponchy Doodle gets it up THERE'S NOT ONE DOUBT IN MY MIND THAT WE WILL FAIL - GW Bush
Thanks for that link, ponchy. He's already covered 30% of the debt so that is a good sign. I trust that he's good for it even if he's late.
If I were you, I'd take my Shylockian pound of fat. Tubby can afford to lose it...
"I've been running from the devil and he hasn't caught me yet."--Jason Boland and the Stragglers.
Why don't you try smoking pot before you come on tomorrow instead of getting drunk? We are curious to see how the change affects you.
... and I like cyber f**k the males. -- Ponchy
The only condition I asked for was the loan be repaid within one year. I don't charge interest, but I tell the loanee if they want to (voluntarily) add a few bucks they can.
Ponchy, we've decided to convert you into a well mannered, intelligent, meterosexual. You are going to have to pay close attention as this is going to take a lot of work. First, I want you to start drinking mango juice instead of alcohol. Also, no chewing tobacco.
... and I like cyber f**k the males. -- Ponchy
We also want you to go to Gay Indians with Personality Problems Anonymous meetings. Do you have a directory for your area?
... and I like cyber f**k the males. -- Ponchy
No, it is about a fundimental difference in the way life is looked at and treated. Many people including me are proponents of 'Deep Ecology' which supports life forms existing with the right to be there merely for the value it's esistance has for itself. Not all perogeratives of life should bear pre-empting merely because some nasty hairless primate can make a buck off it. Allot of forest, sea life, large mammal species should be reserved and allowed safe passage migrating as well as be allowed to live out it's life spans naturally. We contend humans are too greedy and self centered. It is important to take care of people, but the species has responsibilities it has been ignoring to it's detriment. We have a moral obligation to this planet and all other life on it to stay in the carrying load of people that can be sustained and we need to restore and protect the heritage and inheritence of future generations by restoring habitate and replacing thoughtlessly destroyed things of value all life owned in common. Do a Google on 'Deep Ecology,' and when you get up to speed on the real nature of the fundimentals driving much the debate on environmental issues get back to me and I will help you get frther out of the rut of ignorant supposition you have been living in on the issue.
I'm not getting into that Ferret. Your philosophy could be deconstructed, by your mind wouldn't be changed, so why should I waste my time? You, otoh, haven't proved that your "Deep Ecology" is superior to the racialism that is a natural trait in the human race.
"I've been running from the devil and he hasn't caught me yet."--Jason Boland and the Stragglers.
You is right on da money! But you ain't spose' ta spill da beans about dat goy! We almost gots lots of goy like redhead in our traps and you go and blab! What da goy don't know is most of da goyim "patriot" movement are government plants, including Bo Grittz and a few other well knowed radio personalization types who will go unexpozed by dis Jew. You know how you can tell an honest patriot? When dey is killed by our servants. William Cooper still alive? Nope! We was gonna take out Chuck H but we decided to destroy him financialy instead and get him on our payroll under threat of being deceased. your comments are logical in 29. I think we bette get used to a 'dark' age coming down on us. who knows how many of our news sources are compromised. who knows how many honest sources have been shut down by covert means. I mean the division we saw in American Free Press didn't seem normal. you know they routinely infiltrated all the militia, the communists, the klan, the patriots, etc. why wouldn't they infiltrate our news sources.
Galatians 3:29 And if ye [be] Christ's, then are ye Abraham's seed, and heirs according to the promise.
#214. To: Ferret Mike (#211)
So is real glue huffing.
#215. To: Redheadedstranger (#209)
#216. To: Redheadedstranger (#214)
"I wouldn't know..."
#217. To: robin (#215)
#218. To: Ferret Mike (#216)
but I sure don't want any of it.
#219. To: Redheadedstranger (#212)
"No, you haven't because you only know me on three or four forums, under one sceen name."
#220. To: Ferret Mike (#219)
#221. To: Redheadedstranger (#218)
"Drinking is like that. It either makes you or breaks you. So far, I ain't broke."
#222. To: Redheadedstranger (#220)
"Depraved seems teh wrong adjective. I could buy kooky, stupid, asshole...ect. Not depraved...ridiculous..."
#223. To: Ferret Mike (#221)
I remain sceptical of this outlook of yours'
#224. To: Ferret Mike (#222)
There is nothing romatic about being a bigot.
#225. To: Redheadedstranger (#217)
#226. To: Redheadedstranger (#224)
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"Nothing romantic about being a tree-hugger."
#227. To: robin (#225)
Baptists are normally really good at that.
#228. To: Ferret Mike (#226)
#229. To: Redheadedstranger (#228)
"Ferret you're a master of missing the point."
#230. To: Redheadedstranger (#227)
#231. To: Ferret Mike (#229)
#232. To: robin (#230)
#233. To: Redheadedstranger (#228)
"do you think it'se eazy being a bigot?"
#234. To: Ferret Mike (#233)
Yes I do.
#235. To: Redheadedstranger (#234)
"That's because you don't acknowledge bigotry as being as reasonable a doctrine as enviromentalism.
#236. To: Redheadedstranger (#187)
You were in his area, recently and didn't stop by to visit?
#237. To: Ferret Mike (#235)
Bigotry has much the same socio-economic motivation to it as the loot pillage and burn ethos enviromental advocacy combats.
#238. To: Fred Mertz (#236)
#3. To: continental op (#0)
#239. To: Redheadedstranger (#218)
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Drinking is like that. It either makes you or breaks you. So far, I ain't broke.
#240. To: Ferret Mike (#233)
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#241. To: Christine (#240)
#242. To: Minerva (#240)
#243. To: Minerva (#239)
A-humpin’ on his pony
There’s not a poster on the ‘net
That posts more sheer baloney.
Ponchy Doodle dandy
Ponchy Doodle gets it up
Wit’ horseflesh he is handy.
#244. To: Redheadedstranger (#238)
#245. To: Fred Mertz (#244)
#246. To: Redheadedstranger (#245)
#247. To: Redheadedstranger (#245)
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#250. To: Redheadedstranger (#237)
"And here, you're mistaken. You and your buddies may have added anti-racialism to the platform in the fifty years, but previous to that, enviromentalism began with the tribal medicine man announcing to his people that they would run out of resoucres if they did not give him silver and sacrifice a virgin to the moon goddess."
#251. To: Ferret Mike (#250)
Many people including me are proponents of 'Deep Ecology' which supports life forms existing with the right to be there merely for the value it's esistance has for itself.
#252. To: Fibr Dog, all, lodwick, christine, redhead troller, noone222, ferret mike, eoghan, sam houston, honway (#29)
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Therefore, I have come to the conclusion that Turner is a government plant. I believe he has made these statements in order to flush-out those inclined to do violence against the government. Once they make themselves known, they will be secretly investigated via the Patriot Act. If they are found to be doing anything illegal, they will be arrested and prosecuted for those crimes, having no idea that what started their investigation was their letter, e-mail, or phone call to Hal Turner. If they are not doing anything illegal, they will be put on the no-fly list and kept under government surveillence of some sort
Ask yosef who IS still out there spewing seemingly untouchable by us? :)) Ever ask yoself why?? I said enuf. -- Shalom bro
I worship Israel. Kill all Arabs and let Allah sort 'em out. We are the chosen ones. Shalom.
#253. To: Fibr Dog (#29)
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