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Title: 'Assassination' schedule announced for Congress-Radio-show host (Hal Turner) says leaders won't be allowed to 'betray' nation
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World Net Daily
URL Source: http://www.wnd.com/news/article.asp?ARTICLE_ID=53245
Published: Jan 3, 2007
Author: Media Matters
Post Date: 2007-01-03 20:04:49 by Zipporah
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Views: 5905
Comments: 253
'Assassination' schedule announced for Congress Radio-show host says leaders won't be allowed to 'betray' nation © 2006 WorldNetDaily.com A radio talk-show entertainer whose earlier statements that he "may" have to assassinate members of Congress if the wrong people were elected Nov. 7 now has set a timetable for those killings. In a statement on his website, Hal Turner noted that a newspaper has reported that a bill granting amnesty to illegal aliens is expected to be enacted in January, when the Democratic Party takes control of the U.S. Senate and House. "ANY MEMBER OF CONGRESS WHO INTRODUCES, CO-SPONSORS OR VOTES IN FAVOR OF ANY SUCH AMNESTY WILL BE DECLARED A DOMESTIC ENEMY AND WILL BE CONSIDERED A LEGITIMATE TARGET FOR ASSASSINATION," Turner posted on his website. "Members of Congress and the Senate will NOT be permitted to BETRAY our nation by simply GIVING AWAY the most cherished aspect of America, Citizenship, to millions of people who cared so little for what Citizenship means that they came here against our law," he continued. Several weeks ago, Turner incited much discussion when he posted the following: "We may have to ASSASSINATE some of the people you elect on Nov. 7! This could be your LAST ELECTION CHANCE, to save this Republic… "Sorry to have to be so blunt, but the country is in mortal danger from our present government and our liberty is already near dead because of this government. If you are too stupid to turn things around with your vote, there are people out here like me who are willing to turn things around with guns, force and violence. We hope our method does not become necessary," he wrote. But he defined his position as commentary instead of advocacy when one supporter wrote to Turner's website, "Hey Hal instead of saying 'may' SAY you WILL KILL THEM!!!" "No no no no no. Words mean things," Turner wrote at the time. The difference between 'may' and 'will' is the difference between an opinion and a threat," he concluded. "One is lawful, the other is not!" In the current posting, Turner has taken an aggressive stance against any effort by Congress to legalize or provide a "path to citizenship" for the millions of aliens who are in the United States illegally. "Congress will not be permitted to BETRAY our nation by giving Citizenship to tens of thousands who didn't give a s--- about our other laws as they murdered, raped, robbed, dealt illegal drugs, drove without licenses or insurance, stole the social security numbers and/or identities of millions of lawful citizens and most of whom don't give a s--- enough about our country to even learn our language!" Asked about procedures involving suspected threats to members of Congress, the U.S. Secret Service told WND that it would be interested only if the threat involved someone the Service protects. All other cases would be referred to local police jurisdictions. When WND's question specifically referred to a website statement, Secret Service spokesman Darrin Blackford told WND: "We have no comment on that statement." Paul Bresson, a spokesman for the FBI, said he couldn't confirm what investigations are being pursued. "The Internet does not give anyone a license to espouse violence, but there is a certain amount of protection, First Amendment protections, that are built in and we're mindful of those," he said. He called it a "fine line," and said what the agency would do is look at all the information available and "make a determination" whether any crime might have been committed. In the earlier situation FBI spokeswoman Debbie Weierman said such circumstances generally are turned over to a "duty agent" to review, but she couldn't provide other information until and unless a charge would be filed in any case. In the current rant, Turner calls it a "right" for Americans to act in self-defense of their nation. "Members of The United States House of Representatives or United States Senate who try to grant any form of Amnesty to millions of illegal aliens are hereby notified they may as well paint a bulls-eye target on themselves. Our Bullets don't care about their sovereign power," he wrote. "This seems to be 'it' folks. I'm going to do what I have to do to protect my nation from its government. I know where all of my New Jersey Congressmen and Senators live. Do you know where yours live? If not, you better find out before January so you can scope out their neighborhoods and prepare yourselves," he said. "Those of you who, for years, have said you're 'gonna do this' or 'gonna do that' when the time comes; are about to face ugly reality. In January, 'the time' will come. In January the entire world will find out if you're real or just a bigmouth coward," he said. One reader who responded on his comment sheet asked Turner, "who's gonna pick up the fruits and clean your toilet?" To which Turner said, "Machinery can pick the crops; I clean my own toilet." Turner also declined a suggestion to post a list of addresses and provide maps "so people can protest at their homes" by saying, "Once I publish such a list, they would undoubtedly feel the need and take steps to secure themselves. If we forewarn them by publicly publishing a list, we lose the element of surprise." One other reader said, "I'm sitting here now with my 30.06 stripped down. Can do this in the dark. Don't want any grains of sand in the mechanism," he wrote. Still another said he'd forwarded Turner's comments to the FBI, to which Turner responded with a laugh. "You called the FBI about me? BIG DEAL! One can only illegally 'incite' violence when what is said is uttered in a context which lends itself to IMMINENT lawlessness. I will not be arrested because I have thus far committed no crime. Just because you don't understand the subtle delineations of the law does not mean I have broken the law. The FBI has been receiving reports about me from morons like you for six years. I'm still here. Your posting did, however, give me a chuckle!" But his posting also continued further into his plans, and his expectations for the consequences. "The pro-white movement has a habit of making martyrs of folks who take action. They hold rallies for them. They put up web sites about them. Just so we're clear, the only people authorized to do that for me after I become a martyr (alive or dead) are those who stand with me when the fight takes place. Because if you are, TODAY, 'pro-white' and you fail to stand with me in confronting our renegade government, then I say you are a coward and I don't want my name being uttered by cowards," he wrote. He said the "amnesty" would mark "the actual end of our nation." "That will erase us as a nation and I will not permit it. What about you?" he asked. One reader was quick with his response: "Where can we get some polonium-210?" he asked. Turner also carries on his website a disclaimer noting that he is considered a "public figure" which means a lot of places carry of lot of comments about him over which he has no control, including some with "virulent" perspectives. "This being the case, Mr. Turner feels it necessary to – and hereby does – DISCLAIM AND REPUDIATE any affiliation with or support of such groups." Even he didn't take his earlier statements that he may have to assassinate about half of the members of Congress and three members of the U.S. Supreme court seriously. He told WND he never bothered to make a hit list because he never planned to kill anyone. Turner also told WND earlier he'd been investigated by the Secret Service, the U.S. Marshals Service and others in the past, without results. He said that's because he's very careful to "use words such as 'may have' (or) 'might' which are opinions/observations rather than threats." "I am totally familiar with three specific U.S. Supreme Court decisions and those parameters govern what I say and write," he said. He said his comments are "uttered in a context which does not lend itself to imminent lawlessness," do not constitute a "true threat," and could be considered "political hyperbole."
Posted: December 6, 2006
1:00 a.m. Eastern
Hal Turner
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#1. To: Zipporah (#0)
Interesting, informative post - thank you, very much. (Words do have meanings)
I agree with Hal's "political hyperbole", but if for some unforeseen reason tragedy did befall some of our illustrious elite, I’d be inclined to party hardy.
you're certainly not alone in that sentiment.
The end of America has already occurred unfortunately. The ability of our government to pull 9/11 off and fool so many into thinking 19 Arabs did it is proof that America is history, and has been for quite some time. The sheeple haven't been informed yet however. When they are informed they will accept it or be beaten down for being disobedient slaves.
God is always good! But you're too much of a weasel to use your skills to save your country.
If I haven't addressed you, then don't bother to reply to my posts.
may have to opinions/observations rather than threats bump
"First they ignore you. Then they ridicule you. Then they fight you. Then you win." --Mahatma K. Gandhi
at the first mention of cheney's soon to happen heart failure, the flag will again be flying
"First they ignore you. Then they ridicule you. Then they fight you. Then you win." --Mahatma K. Gandhi
hi ponchy!! sober tonight?
"And this is the end of my brilliant career on the 4um..." -- ponchy 12/20/2006
I agree with Hal's "political hyperbole", but if for some unforeseen reason tragedy did befall some of our illustrious elite, I57;d be inclined to party hardy But you're too much of a weasel to use your skills to save your country. What kind of skills does Jethro Have that can save this country? Is he an assassin? Is he a freemason? Explain why it is he's a weasel for not saving the country. Some of us want to know what you know about Jethro. I mean, if Jethro has skills that he could single handedly use to save America, then by God man, tell us so we can apply pressure to Jethro.
#2. To: Zipporah, all (#0)
and could be considered "political hyperbole."
#3. To: Jethro Tull (#2)
#4. To: Zipporah (#0)
"It was an interesting day." - President Bush, recalling 9/11 [White House, 1/5/02]
#5. To: Jethro Tull (#2)
I agree with Hal's "political hyperbole", but if for some unforeseen reason tragedy did befall some of our illustrious elite, I57;d be inclined to party hardy
#6. To: Zipporah (#0)
he may have to assassinate about half of the members of Congress and three members of the U.S. Supreme court
#7. To: christine (#3)
#8. To: Redheadedstranger (#5)
#9. To: Redheadedstranger, jethro tull, *You Gotta Be Shitting Me* (#5)
To: Jethro Tull
 | This country's priorities are all fucked up. |
#10. To: Morgana le Fay (#8)
hi ponchy!! sober tonight? Evidently not.
To: Redheadedstranger
Law Enforcement Against Prohibition
In a CorporoFascist capitalist society, there is no money in peace, freedom, or a healthy population, and therefore, no incentive to achieve these - - IndieTX In a time of universal deceit, telling the truth is a revolutionary act - - George Orwell
#11. To: Redheadedstranger (#5) (Edited)
I don't want to save what you call "my country". I want this mess destroyed, the sooner the better. Now, scram and find me Tubby....
But you're too much of a weasel to use your skills to save your country.
#12. To: Jethro Tull (#11)
So, Jethro, what kind of powers do you have that makes you the prime candidate to singlehandedly fix this country? Some of us want to know. I cannot believe that Captain Jackass said that for whatever reason. Unless you've got some kind of time machine, or some other alien technology that can transport you back to the time this country was first betrayed, I'd say you're in the same boat the rest of us are. However, if we found out you were holding out on said technologies, we'd disown you. :)
| This country's priorities are all fucked up. |
#13. To: Redheadedstranger, christine (#5) (Edited)
What you doin here trollin in my pond? Get lost and go find anotha board someplace else mutha. You nothin but a goy too. You aint nuthin. I kick yo ass.
But you're too much of a weasel to use your skills to save your country.
I worship Israel. Kill all Arabs and let Allah sort 'em out. We are the chosen ones. Shalom.
#14. To: angle (#7)
has pat robertson predicted it??? :P
#15. To: christine (#14)
jas pat robertson predicted it? LOL!
cheney's soon to happen heart failure,
Law Enforcement Against Prohibition
In a CorporoFascist capitalist society, there is no money in peace, freedom, or a healthy population, and therefore, no incentive to achieve these - - IndieTX In a time of universal deceit, telling the truth is a revolutionary act - - George Orwell
#16. To: Redheadedstranger (#5)
I have skills at using a weasel. Why don't you stop over and we'll take one for the country.
But you're too much of a weasel to use your skills to save your country.
#17. To: TommyTheMadArtist (#9)
Well, let's put this in perspective. If as Hal Turner says, (and I agree with him) that some elected officials need to be knocked off, then Jethro Tull might prove useful to the cause, being an ex-NYPD narc, with connections in the force, and a knowledge of the New Yoik-New Jersey area. He knows police procedure, what the security details of politicians are like, and how to cover your tracks. I'd call that valuable knowledge, wouldn't you? "Is he a freemason?" Probably. "Explain why it is he's a weasel for not saving the country." I have no problem with JT sitting on his ass while the country goes to pot...that's what all of us are doing, anyway. But he wants to shoot off his mouth as well, then I'm going to call him on it. I've made this challenge before, for ten years in fact. Nobody wants to stick their head up...
What kind of skills does Jethro Have that can save this country?
If I haven't addressed you, then don't bother to reply to my posts.
#18. To: Jethro Tull (#11)
Then shut your mouth and send a donation to Al Qaeda. I'll contribute a few bucks as well.
I want this mess destroyed, the sooner the better.
If I haven't addressed you, then don't bother to reply to my posts.
#19. To: Zipporah (#0)
Since people like Turner regard Bush's immigration plans as amnesty, Bush is implicitly one of the objects of his threats. Shouldn't the Secret Service be interested?
Katrina was America's Chernobyl.
#20. To: Redheadedstranger (#18)
The problem is Al Qaeda doesn't exist. At best it's fraternity of NYU grad students who have returned home after being educated on the American taxpayer's dime. Please stop falling for all this government BS. You're on 4um, not LP.
Then shut your mouth and send a donation to Al Qaeda. I'll contribute a few bucks as well.
#21. To: Jethro Tull (#20)
Indeed. And why I despise the lot of you losers. Hal Turner made a strong...perhaps even historic statement, and what do you losers do? Do you rally round him, and flood his call-lines, in and po boxes with your letters and calls of support? Do you do anything at all except sit here and bitch? Hal Turner had no choice but to back down because he got ZERO support, verbal or otherwise from you and your 4um losers. Have you ever asked yourself why the 4um exists? I've never seen a more pointless board...in my entire life...
You're on 4um, not LP.
If I haven't addressed you, then don't bother to reply to my posts.
#22. To: aristeides (#19)
Don't give them ideas...
Shouldn't the Secret Service be interested?
If I haven't addressed you, then don't bother to reply to my posts.
#23. To: Redheadedstranger (#21)
Well nobody dragged you here kicking and screaming to 4UM. You have a very high opinion of yourself and a low one of everyone else's political efficacy. Perhaps if you had a more impartial perspective you would say that you have too high an opinion of the meglomania that drives you. Who's to say? Certainly not you.
"I've never seen a more pointless board...in my entire life... "
#24. To: Redheadedstranger (#21)
Turner is either a kook or an agent provocateur. There is no third possibility. and, only weak minds would follow his cult persona the way you obviously do.
"When the going gets tough, the tough make coffee!"
#25. To: Redheadedstranger (#21)
take a deep breath ponchy, you're going unstable again. if your forehead vein is throbbing you need to get off the net until you get yourself back under control.
"And this is the end of my brilliant career on the 4um..." -- ponchy 12/20/2006
#26. To: HOUNDDAWG (#24)
I agree. Lemmings bravely charging en mass to take on epic elemental forces are still rodents drowning themselves in the sea.
"and, only weak minds would follow his cult persona the way you obviously do."
#27. To: Jethro Tull (#20) (Edited)
Looks to me like Ponchy is trying to goad you into saying something he can report to the secret Service.
If I haven't addressed you, then don't bother to reply to my posts. -- The Poney Poker
#28. To: Redheadedstranger (#21)
No Ponchy, you dispise us because we think you are a silly little ball of anger and we laugh at you. You get even less respect here then you did on LP ..... before they booted you. Have another drink Horse Humper and entertain us. That is the only reason you are allowed on the site. LOL!!
And why I despise the lot of you losers.
If I haven't addressed you, then don't bother to reply to my posts. -- The Poney Poker
#29. To: HOUNDDAWG (#24)
This is a country that imprisoned a man for making a joke about a burning Bush. A joke which no one in their right mind would consider a threat to anyone. There is no way IMO that a normal, everyday Joe would get away with making the comments Turner has made. If they did, then the government would be on them like white on rice, regardless of whether he used "will" or "may." The government would have the backing of the majority of the American sheeple as well. Therefore, I have come to the conclusion that Turner is a government plant. I believe he has made these statements in order to flush-out those inclined to do violence against the government. Once they make themselves known, they will be secretly investigated via the Patriot Act. If they are found to be doing anything illegal, they will be arrested and prosecuted for those crimes, having no idea that what started their investigation was their letter, e-mail, or phone call to Hal Turner. If they are not doing anything illegal, they will be put on the no-fly list and kept under government surveillence of some sort. The Patriot Act allows the government to monitor their financial dealings and secretly search their homes. Their phone calls can be tapped, their mail opened, their e-mail tapped and their Internet surfing traced in order to find out as much information about the person as possible as well as to gather information on the person's network of friends and family.
Turner is either a kook or an agent provocateur. There is no third possibility.
"Yours are the eyes through which the compassion of Christ must look out on the world. Yours are the feet with which he is to go about doing good. Yours are the hands with which he is to bless his people" - St. Teresa of Avila.
#30. To: Minerva, Jethro Tull (#27)
That's what I was thinking. Permission requested to respond to this post.Looks to me like Ponchy is trying to goad you into saying something he can report to the secret Service.
(I'm thinking of this for a new tagline, with security checks and handshaking)
The more corrupt the state, the more numerous the laws. – Tacitus
#31. To: Minerva, Jethro Tull, Morgana Le Fay, robin, Axenolith (#27)
The stupid f*ck's not even propitious at his provocateuring. What Axenolith said.
#32. To: HOUNDDAWG, Jethro Tull (#24)
Hey JT, The Dawg thinks you're a moron.
If I haven't addressed you, then don't bother to reply to my posts.
#33. To: Ferret Mike (#23)
Let me explain this to you a context that you can appreciate, Ferret. I'm on
desk-duty, posting at numerous forums and bored. This 4um is the bottom of the
barrel, imo. So why do I come back? For the same reason Yertle Turtle does, as
a matter of fact. The only difference is, he likes to play with the children
in this adult-sized sand box, and I like cyber f**k the males. We both have
images to maintain, on other forums, and in real life, but in the interim, we
like to slum. That's the story...
If I haven't addressed you, then don't bother to reply to my posts.
#34. To: Nostalgia, Axenolith (#31)
A+
What Axenolith said.
The more corrupt the state, the more numerous the laws. – Tacitus
#35. To: Redheadedstranger (#32)
You workin' too hard, man. We'll get you a milk stool and a rubber so's you won't have to strain yourself. We know that this is just a side job for you.
THERE'S NOT ONE DOUBT IN MY MIND THAT WE WILL FAIL - GW Bush
#36. To: Redheadedstranger (#21)
I don't advocate what Turner said. Like all talk radio, he provides me entertainment. That said, god forbid some natural disaster should strike DC while congress is in full session, nary a tear will be shed by me. Now run along and report me to the local branch of the ADL/FBI/CIA/SS/ASPCA. I really don't give a flying fuck :)
Indeed. And why I despise the lot of you losers. Hal Turner made a strong...perhaps even historic statement,
#37. To: Jethro Tull (#36)
Coward. But this is an example of why I certainly don't trust your two-hundred pound ex- cop's ass.
I don't advocate what Turner said.
If I haven't addressed you, then don't bother to reply to my posts.
#38. To: ponchy (#37) (Edited)
But this is an example of why I certainly don't trust your two-hundred pound ex- cop's ass. calm down ponchy. people just laugh at you when you lose it in public. of course they laugh at you when you are in your stable phase as well --- but not as much.
Coward.
"And this is the end of my brilliant career on the 4um..." -- ponchy 12/20/2006
#39. To: Jethro Tull (#36)
be careful to not take ponchy seriously. always remember what a kook he is and don't get sucked into his kook BS.
"And this is the end of my brilliant career on the 4um..." -- ponchy 12/20/2006
#40. To: Morgana le Fay (#38)
Rather than go on at length about how much we despise this system, or how we would like to see it fall, would it not be more useful and productive to think about what we would like to see replace it? Talk about what we would like to see in a new system of government, what has worked in this current system, what has failed, and discuss the merits of possible alternatives? Because otherwise, I fear we will one day find ourselves in a situation where this current regime is no longer viable, and in the vacuum created by its failure we could find an even worse system being imposed. And please, let's try to be a little more sophisticated than simply saying "let's go back to the Constitution", since that document did not prevent this current situation from coming to pass. Let's be brutally honest here: This regime is going to eventually fail. Something this miserably corrupt and mismanaged cannot stand forever. I submit that our efforts would be better served in discussing the pros and cons of alternative forms of government and alternative social constructs.
 | Gold and silver are real money, paper is but a promise. |
#41. To: Redheadedstranger (#21)
Well said. Being a hostile kook myself I am a great fan of hostile kookery. As you are no doubt aware. Maybe we can get drunk together someday and vent our impotent, hostile bitterness to each other. What do you say? ROTFLOL! KOOKS! Clintonistas!!
Indeed. And why I despise the lot of you losers. Hal Turner made a strong...perhaps even historic statement, and what do you losers do? Do you rally round him, and flood his call-lines, in and po boxes with your letters and calls of support? Do you do anything at all except sit here and bitch?
#42. To: Morgana le Fay (#39)
Actually, I pay ponchy no mind. Regarding Turner and his hyperbole, his words aren't the words of a KooK, they're merely what many of us think but dare not say. When one realizes our nation is at war with one billion Muslims as a result of lies, anger is the correct emotion. Add to this war an unfettered illegal immigration, and the creation of a North American Union driven by a cabal of elites, then his musings are dead on (pun intended). I’ve heard John Stadtmiller call Turner an agent provocateur without proof. That was wrong and says more about him than it does Turner.
#43. To: Ponchy (#37)
Ponchy, you seem to be on a rampage today. Was there a sale down at the liquor store?
If I haven't addressed you, then don't bother to reply to my posts. -- The Poney Poker
#44. To: Fibr Dog (#29)
That, or they could be labelled a "combatant" and whisked off to some gulag where hot rods would be shoved up their ass and their nuts zapped with 100,000 volts ten times a day, 24 hours a day. No one would ever know for sure what happened to them, thinking they may simply have taken off and never came back.
Once they make themselves known, they will be secretly investigated via the Patriot Act. If they are found to be doing anything illegal, they will be arrested and prosecuted for those crimes, having no idea that what started their investigation was their letter, e-mail, or phone call to Hal Turner.
You appear to be a major trouble maker...and I'm getting really pissed. - GoldiLox, 7/27/2006
#45. To: Redheadedstranger (#33)
So you're Jim Gannon?
and I like cyber f**k the males
You appear to be a major trouble maker...and I'm getting really pissed. - GoldiLox, 7/27/2006
#46. To: Redheadedstranger (#21)
Hey considering your posts we've not seen a more pointed head .. in our entire lives .. Hiya con op~
I've never seen a more pointless board...in my entire life...
#47. To: FormerLurker (#45)
So you're Jim Gannon? Uh this should be an interesting reply :P
and I like cyber f**k the males
#48. To: Zipporah (#47)
So you're Jim Gannon? Uh this should be an interesting reply :P I always thought he liked horses.
and I like cyber f**k the males
If I haven't addressed you, then don't bother to reply to my posts. -- The Poney Poker
#49. To: Zipporah (#47)
I guess I have to change my tagline.
I like cyber f**k the males
If I haven't addressed you, then don't bother to reply to my posts. -- The Poney Poker
#50. To: Zipporah (#47)
Test of the new tagline.
If I like to cyber f**k the males. -- Ponchy
#51. To: Zipporah (#47)
Oops. I accidentally made it conditional.
I like to cyber f**k the males. -- Ponchy
#52. To: Jethro Tull (#42)
All of Turner's sites are down ...
"They say Justice is blind and I agree ... so much so that she hasn't found her way into a courtroom since 1938"
noone222 12-17-06
#53. To: Zipporah (#46)
I don't know another forum owner/operator who would fuck with their member's posts. Have you no honor at all, bitch? Is not your trust sacred?
If I haven't addressed you, then don't bother to reply to my posts.
#54. To: FormerLurker (#45)
YOu'd better being staying on good terms with the 4um managment son. OTherwise zipporah will be editing your posts and reading your private insite emails, too.
If I haven't addressed you, then don't bother to reply to my posts.
#55. To: Redheadedstranger (#53) (Edited)
Excuse me?? who the hell do you think you're talking to?? I have no clue what youre talking about.. get real..
#56. To: Jethro Tull (#42)
And that is why you're a weasel. Now, JT, I don't have the time of day for TUrner, but I was impressed by his recent statements. I can see why you like him though...him being an ex-homo and a better con man than you.
Regarding Turner and his hyperbole, his words aren't the words of a KooK, they're merely what many of us think but dare not say
If I haven't addressed you, then don't bother to reply to my posts.
#57. To: Redheadedstranger (#53)
Chill your black ass, boy.
#58. To: Redheadedstranger (#56)
He who lives in glass houses.....
...him being an ex-homo...
#59. To: Zipporah (#55)
Hey you fix my post #33 as a sign of good faith and I'll apologize for that, and all the things I've said about you in the past.
If I haven't addressed you, then don't bother to reply to my posts.
#60. To: Jethro Tull (#58)
Bullshit. I'm straighter than you are, you illegal-immigrant sodomizer.
He who lives in glass houses.....
If I haven't addressed you, then don't bother to reply to my posts.
#61. To: Redheadedstranger (#60)
You straight? You'd make Clinton's member look like Aaron's staff.
I'm straighter than you are
#62. To: Jethro Tull (#57)
Is there any chance that you could more pathetic? May one of your children marry a mud...and give you many grandchildren by it...
Chill your black ass, boy.
freedomunderground.org
#63. To: Redheadedstranger (#59) (Edited)
Fix it in what way? How long ago did you post it?? There is an edit option here .. you fix it as you wish I have no idea what you contend was altered?
#64. To: Redheadedstranger (#53)
Ponchy, have you been reading Dale Carnegie again?
Have you no honor at all, bitch?
... and I like cyber f**k the males. -- Ponchy
#65. To: Minerva (#51)
Send this to Ponchy, Minerva. He likes you.
#66. To: Jethro Tull, coral snake (#61)
ARe we speaking of coral snake?
Aaron's staff.
freedomunderground.org
#67. To: Redheadedstranger (#62)
Send this to Minerva, Con. Then ask for a date.
#68. To: Zipporah (#63)
Is that something I would say? Huh? You are incompetent at your job. I'll bet your husband dumped you because you couldn't manage a household, much less a forum.
and I like cyber f**k the males.
freedomunderground.org
#69. To: Redheadedstranger (#66)
No. Coral Snake is forever known as "He of Small Staff."
#70. To: Jethro Tull (#65)
Ponchy is too much of an attention whore for my taste. He would wear me out.
Send this to Ponchy, Minerva. He likes you.
... and I like cyber f**k the males. -- Ponchy
#71. To: Redheadedstranger (#68)
LOL! A rather desparate attempt to toss an insult my way? Gawd youre pathetic.. I have NO idea what you'd say.. first of all I pay little to no attention to your posts.. secondly Im not here that often anymore.. get a clue
#72. To: Jethro Tull (#69)
It's all pretty meaningless, JT considering that your wife castrated you, years ago.
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#73. To: Jethro Tull, Zipporah, christine, Diana, rowdee, robin, Ferret Mike (#42)
I’ve heard John Stadtmiller call Turner an agent provocateur without proof. That was wrong and says more about him than it does Turner. Well, I respect your views and after reading this I'll retract my sweeping condemnation and agree with your reasoned logic. But, the fact is someone in Turner's position is certainly irresistible bait for the govt, and at the very least I assume that he has no private exchanges with any would-be warriors. If I had the broad powers that our govt has usurped by fiat (and a heart as black as Texas neoilcon) I'd make sure that every one of his soul mates are in the file. Only a naive individual believes that she or he can plan an illegal act with others after having spoken with Turner, and then dare to take the first step to implement same. I'd assume that once I called his show or even e mailed him that any attempts to seek out like minded others are being monitored. I'm sure you'll agree that he's a kook magnet and his fans are the kind of people that the FBI routinely database. After all, the bureau never repudiated the snoopy policies mandated by Hoover and they have thousands of files on some very innocuous folks (including me I'm sure-I once attended a Reagan rally and I forgot to wear the garters to hold my socks up) and I can't see them passing up Turner's groupies. Can you? And, the one way to prove to me that he is on the level is to be sentenced to 40 years in the electric chair, which is what most of us would expect if we advocated the violent overthrow of the US govt. And, if he isn't already indicted under seal then he must serve a purpose. For instance, if there is ever a time when Americans are getting ready to explode, the govt can use his charred corpse (remember Gordon Kahl? His blackened remains even had a foot chopped off) to demoralize the ninety percentile whose bladders will let go at the pop of the first smoke. And, if they never even leave home, all the better. With all those loaded guns someone could get hurt.
Regarding Turner and his hyperbole, his words aren't the words of a KooK, they're merely what many of us think but dare not say. When one realizes our nation is at war with one billion Muslims as a result of lies, anger is the correct emotion. Add to this war an unfettered illegal immigration, and the creation of a North American Union driven by a cabal of elites, then his musings are dead on (pun intended).
"When the going gets tough, the tough make coffee!"
#74. To: HOUNDDAWG (#73)
nope But I remember that 14 year old girl they took out of her biology class to harass over a picture she had on her myspace site of Smirk being stabbed.
remember Gordon Kahl?
The more corrupt the state, the more numerous the laws. – Tacitus
#75. To: Zipporah, lodwick (#71)
Hi, Zip! Hope you had a chance to listen to those classic Johnny Mathis tunes 'lodwick' posted last night. We now return you to your regularly scheduled p*ssing match...the adults will be busy elsewhere.
Remember...G-d saved more animals than people on the ark. www.siameserescue.org
#76. To: who knows what evil (#75)
We now return you to your regularly scheduled p*ssing match...the adults will be busy elsewhere. I in fact did.. his gayness kinda spoils his music for me :P LOL!
Hi, Zip! Hope you had a chance to listen to those classic Johnny Mathis tunes 'lodwick' posted last night.
#77. To: robin (#74)
Interesting contrast to the free skate that Turner seems to enjoy.
But I remember that 14 year old girl they took out of her biology class to harass over a picture she had on her myspace site of Smirk being stabbed.
"When the going gets tough, the tough make coffee!"
#78. To: Zipporah (#76)
Don't tell me that...
I in fact did.. his gayness kinda spoils his music for me :P
Remember...G-d saved more animals than people on the ark. www.siameserescue.org
#79. To: Zipporah (#76)
Have you seen this? Unconditional Love (2002) Kathy Bates, Rupert Everett and Jonathan Pryce. She discovers the heartthrob singer is gay.
http://www.imdb.com/title/tt0219374/
The more corrupt the state, the more numerous the laws. – Tacitus
#80. To: Zipporah (#76)
Johnny Mathis is gay??? OH, THE HUMANITIES! :) Didn't he play the romantic lead in that movie.....oh, wait. Come to think of it, he's the only big star who never played the romantic lead in anything. Strange.... Actually, I remember reading some time ago that he has always refused any questions about his personal life and won't grant interviews unless that is understood. I thought maybe he was a commando in Korea and he didn't want to be reminded of all those guys he killed with his bare hands! :)
I in fact did.. his gayness kinda spoils his music for me :P
"When the going gets tough, the tough make coffee!"
#81. To: robin (#74)
Has to make one wonder if ole 'Hal doesn't have a gig with the Feds attempting to flushout and ID those individuals that favor assassinations, eh?
But I remember that 14 year old girl they took out of her biology class to harass over a picture she had on her myspace site of Smirk being stabbed.
Tell the rabble to be quiet, we anticipate a riot.
This common crowd, is much too loud.
#82. To: Brian S (#81)
Kinda like what Ponchy tried here on this thread? Yeah, maybe so.
Has to make one wonder if ole 'Hal doesn't have a gig with the Feds attempting to flushout and ID those individuals that favor assassinations, eh?
The more corrupt the state, the more numerous the laws. – Tacitus
#83. To: Zipporah (#76)
Just 'dogpiled' the info...another innocent childhood memory blown completely to hell. Oh...bad choice of words. :-)
I in fact did.. his gayness kinda spoils his music for me :P
Remember...G-d saved more animals than people on the ark. www.siameserescue.org
#84. To: HOUNDDAWG (#73) (Edited)
I expect to be in all their databases dawg, and that’s fine with me. I called his show l/n to see if it was down. It was. I used my cell so I’m sure a record exists. As I said, I don’t care who knows or what they do with the information. I’d prefer prison to placing a cork in my mouth and sitting on the sofa. I’ve always been curious about radical politics, be it from the extreme left - the Black Panther Party had some valid points - or the radical right - Turner likewise scores valid points. This isn’t to say I agree with everything (or anything) either extreme espouses. It’s a curiosity thing with me. Hell, truth be known, there isn’t a more radical practitioner of politics in the world than George Bush and this current government. His neocon cheerleaders are far more deadly than a meeting of some local chapter of the KKK, which could probably fit in a phone booth. About Turner’s suggestion, I find it amusing, but somewhat understandable. This week alone we’ve learned Bush plans to “surge” up to 40,000 additional troops into Baghdad, he has drafted legislation that will permit his underlings to read our mail, Gov. Schwarzenegger is going to offer illegal alien children free medical benefits and social security plans to send countless billions to Mexico in the form of payments to illegal workers who used stolen or fake SS numbers. Now, since we have no representation and I have doubts our elections are honest, what are our options? BTW, if I wanted to make a million dollars, I’d start a radio network and find myself the most radical radio hosts I could get my hands on. In short order it would become the most listened to station in America, that is if we still do have a 1st amendment right. Finally, if they allow Pat Robertson permission to suggest Chavez (and others?) be assassinated, why not let Mr. Hal ponder the thought aloud?
#85. To: Jethro Tull (#84)
very good point
Finally, if they allow Pat Robertson permission to suggest Chavez (and others?) be assassinated, why not let Mr. Hal ponder the thought aloud?
#86. To: Jethro Tull (#84)
I agree. I knew a long time ago that I was going to be in the files after I became a vocal critic of the middle class wage tax. And, my communista subversio hermanos y hermanas told me long ago that there are so many agents provocateur at every gathering anymore that the only way to take direct action is to go it alone. "Three can keep a secret if two of them are dead." "Finally, if they allow Pat Robertson permission to suggest Chavez (and others?) be assassinated, why not let Mr. Hal ponder the thought aloud?" I'm sure you know that not only are Rev. Pat's thoughts approved (and possibly scripted) by fedgov, but there is no law against advocating the assassination of a foreign leader. And while your logic is compelling, an AUSA in a state of arousal over you could file an information (not even showing you the courtesy of an indictment by a grand jury) and it would cost tens of thousands of dollars to defend against a bogus information. And, as you're no doubt aware no one can stack as jury like the feds. When I assisted a patriot with his felony tax trial years ago there were 22 prospective jurors and only one wasn't beholden to the govt either directly or indirectly for his livelihood! He was an indie trucker, and he disqualified himself because he shared the same donut shop with the defendant for morning coffee! Everyone else was a city or county govt employee, insurance and banking rat, ss retiree or some other occupation that quakes at the prospect of irritating the IRS and having their records combed. And, because the clerk knows when a jury is unanimous they call the same people again and again, and though it's never spoken they know what's expected of them and are happy to oblige. Anyone who doesn't try to get out of jury duty and convicts the first time is a sure bet. One fellow in my neighborhood barbershop said he was called five times until he exonerated the last defendant, then he was never called again. I can tell just by examining a tax return who is a state worshiper, and the AUSA may indeed examine prospective jurors' returns.
"When the going gets tough, the tough make coffee!"
#87. To: Jethro Tull (#84)
Did Ponchy finally pass out?
... and I like cyber f**k the males. -- Ponchy
#88. To: Minerva (#87)
Maybe he fell off his stool.
THERE'S NOT ONE DOUBT IN MY MIND THAT WE WILL FAIL - GW Bush
#89. To: Minerva (#87)
Hope so. It's a little creepy that he's zeroed in on me.
Did Ponchy finally pass out?
"We become what we behold. We shape our tools and thereafter our tools shape us." -- Marshall McLuhan, after Alexander Pope and William Blake.
#90. To: YertleTurtle (#89)
You shouldn't have mentioned that you wear shorts in the summer.
It's a little creepy that he's zeroed in on me.
The more corrupt the state, the more numerous the laws. – Tacitus
#91. To: HOUNDDAWG (#86)
Everyone else was a city or county govt employee, insurance and banking rat, ss retiree or some other occupation that quakes at the prospect of irritating the IRS and having their records combed. you only get a fair shake in court IF it's between private parties and the government has no stake in it.
When I assisted a patriot with his felony tax trial years ago there were 22 prospective jurors and only one wasn't beholden to the govt either directly or indirectly for his livelihood! He was an indie trucker, and he disqualified himself because he shared the same donut shop with the defendant for morning coffee!
#92. To: HOUNDDAWG (#86) (Edited)
but there is no law against advocating the assassination of a foreign leader. It's now called pre-emption, it carries the weight of foreign policy and it isn't confined to foreign leaders alone. It extends to a nation’s people (see Bosnia, Serbia and Iraq).I find the irony rich that Turner suggests personal pre-emption for those who wage national genocide. As far as me legally defending myself, I don't plan much of a strategy. I speak my mind and listen to radio I find appealing. It’s all available on discovery. If that's criminal so be it.
#93. To: Minerva (#87)
He's gone, never to return. I expect a PM any moment.
#94. To: robin (#90)
He's...gay? Gasp! I'm being cyberstalked!
You shouldn't have mentioned that you wear shorts in the summer.
"We become what we behold. We shape our tools and thereafter our tools shape us." -- Marshall McLuhan, after Alexander Pope and William Blake.
#95. To: HOUNDDAWG (#73)
There's this really old man who lives in this area who has been writing letters to the presidents since Truman. He's got schizophrenia and he has this thing about presidents and has been writing to every one of them for decades. A couple years ago, the FBI flew out here to take him away to be questioned. They came to the conclusion that he was just nutty and did not pose a threat to The President, so they let him go. It was the first time any government agencies paid him any attention. I don't know whether they paid for his airfare or not.
I'm sure you'll agree that he's a kook magnet and his fans are the kind of people that the FBI routinely database. After all, the bureau never repudiated the snoopy policies mandated by Hoover and they have thousands of files on some very innocuous folks
#96. To: Jethro Tull (#93)
Ponchy is gone? We were just beginning to reach him. Morgan won't even get a chance to say goodbye. She's down in North Hollywood and won't be back til later. You ought to let him stay until she can take one last poke at him.
He's gone, never to return. I expect a PM any moment.
... and I like cyber f**k the males. -- Ponchy
#97. To: YertleTurtle (#94)
Actually, he is "ghey" - but I understand that to be almost the same thing.
He's...gay? Gasp! I'm being cyberstalked!
... and I like cyber f**k the males. -- Ponchy
#98. To: Minerva (#96)
Damn, now we'll never get a chance to ask Ponchy if he is really Isabel Quaresma.
When the going gets weird the weird turn pro. - Hunter S Thompson
#99. To: Zipporah (#71)
So who runs this place? Christine? Palo Verde? The three stooges?
secondly Im not here that often anymore.
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#100. To: Dakmar (#98)
Does Isabel Quaresma chew tobacco and drink a lot of cheap vodka?
Damn, now we'll never get a chance to ask Ponchy if he is really Isabel Quaresma.
... and I like cyber f**k the males. -- Ponchy
#101. To: Minerva (#97)
I had to Google that one. Makes semse, though.
Actually, he is "ghey" - but I understand that to be almost the same thing
"We become what we behold. We shape our tools and thereafter our tools shape us." -- Marshall McLuhan, after Alexander Pope and William Blake.
#102. To: Redheadedstranger (#99)
Actually we nominated you fool king for the day. It's a medeival sort of thing.
So who runs this place? Christine? Palo Verde? The three stooges?
... and I like cyber f**k the males. -- Ponchy
#103. To: Minerva (#100)
Q: Why can't a rooster ever get rich? A: Because he works for chicken feed!
When the going gets weird the weird turn pro. - Hunter S Thompson
#104. To: YertleTurtle (#101)
Look on the SSH forum. That word is used everywhere.
I had to Google that one. Makes semse, though.
... and I like cyber f**k the males. -- Ponchy
#105. To: YertleTurtle (#94)
drama queen. If this thread is ever widely publicized, you'll be the laughing stock of every other forum you post on.
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#106. To: Dakmar (#103)
A: Because he works for chicken feed! I don't get it.
Q: Why can't a rooster ever get rich?
... and I like cyber f**k the males. -- Ponchy
#107. To: Ponchy (#105)
Amazing. I don't believe I've ever seen vodka type messages on a forum before.
drama queen. If this thread is ever widely publicized, you'll be the laughing stock of every other forum you post on.
... and I like cyber f**k the males. -- Ponchy
#108. To: YertleTurtle (#101)
Better put some long pants on. Ponchy is back.
... and I like cyber f**k the males. -- Ponchy
#109. To: Minerva (#108)
How'd you know I had shorts on right now? ;-)
Better put some long pants on. Ponchy is back.
"We become what we behold. We shape our tools and thereafter our tools shape us." -- Marshall McLuhan, after Alexander Pope and William Blake.
#110. To: Redheadedstranger (#105)
drama queen, quit sniffing your own god-damned farts, you sick bastard.
drama queen. If this thread is ever widely publicized, you'll be the laughing stock of every other forum you post on.
When the going gets weird the weird turn pro. - Hunter S Thompson
#111. To: Jethro Tull (#93)
Last dog ain't been hung yet, JT. Besides, you can't ban me. Affirmative action laws require that at least one brown boy and one negro be a member of each forum. Freddy Mertz don't count...he's just a cigar store indian.
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#112. To: Ponchy, Black Sands (#111)
Dakmar is a negro.
Affirmative action laws require that at least one brown boy and one negro be a member of each forum.
... and I like cyber f**k the males. -- Ponchy
#113. To: Dakmar (#110)
He knows where you live. Now get lost, you yapping cur...
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#114. To: Redheadedstranger (#111)
Up yours, loser. I've got a winning horse.
Freddy Mertz don't count..
#115. To: Redheadedstranger (#33)
For pete's sake, take your business here and feel free to not share so much of your love life, it's too much information for me, man.
"I like cyber f**k the males."
#116. To: Ponchy (#111)
Is hanging the dog the same as choking the chicken?
Last dog ain't been hung yet, JT.
... and I like cyber f**k the males. -- Ponchy
#117. To: Redheadedstranger (#113)
Is that the guy from Grand Funk Railroad?
When the going gets weird the weird turn pro. - Hunter S Thompson
#118. To: Fred Mertz (#114)
But I cleaned up on election day. 1k's worth of right predictions. Mind you, I lost some money cause I betted that the republicans would hold the senate.
I've got a winning horse.
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#119. To: Ferret Mike (#115)
If you don't like it then you can tell the 4um managment to stop fucking with my posts.
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#120. To: Dakmar (#117)
That's David Koresh you numbskull.
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#121. To: Minerva (#112)
To hell with them africans, kicking us out of olduvai gorge. I can't let that go, you dig?
Dakmar is a negro.
When the going gets weird the weird turn pro. - Hunter S Thompson
#122. To: Redheadedstranger (#120)
Oh, I never paid much attention to those types, just keep 'em off my property.
When the going gets weird the weird turn pro. - Hunter S Thompson
#123. To: Redheadedstranger (#119)
Bzzzzzt! Fails for lameness. The post was up for hours and Ponchy could have changed it at any time with the edit function. It didn't become an issue until we pointed it out and laughed about it. (See thread above.)
If you don't like it then you can tell the 4um managment to stop fucking with my posts.
... and I like cyber f**k the males. -- Ponchy
#124. To: All (#120)
For the record, I wasn't here when JT or Palolitest aka Christine edited it. Therefore, I was unable to re-edit it.
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#125. To: Dakmar (#122)
Property? Your wife let you back into the basement?
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#126. To: Redheadedstranger (#124)
You were here all day. {See thread above.}
... and I like cyber f**k the males. -- Ponchy
#127. To: Minerva (#123) (Edited)
We had a woman named Liz who tried the falsified E mail bit to try to slander a fellow poster years ago at http://Time.com/politics. Unfortunately for her, the fraud was easily detected. It is easy to monitor who where and when a post modification was made. I find it hard to believe well seasoned forum operators and interlocutors would try to do scapegoating and slander intended post modification. I would well say that a half cocked accusation like that can have a way of coming back to haunt you. I have watched carefully from where the bad intent emminates from and who here actually has an axe to grind. And it isn't Zipporah and christine that is the problem here.
#128. To: All (#125)
Well, I'm going to call it a week. Feel free to set fire to my posts...ect... I don't really care...only made an issue out of it to show that zipporah is an inept manager with the IQ of a turnip.
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#129. To: Redheadedstranger (#124)
Ponchy .... when you no longer command enough respect to piss people off it's time to pack it in.
... and I like cyber f**k the males. -- Ponchy
#130. To: Ferret Mike (#127)
And speaking of posters with the IQ of vegetables... You don't have a clue what's going on. JT has been fucking with my posts for about a year, now. It's become a moderately amusing game. I posted this morning, on my lunch break, and in the evening, but I suppose this is all a bit complicated for you...
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#131. To: Redheadedstranger (#130)
Ponchy .... I can see why it takes you 400 posts to opus.
... and I like cyber f**k the males. -- Ponchy
#132. To: Redheadedstranger (#130)
When the going gets weird the weird turn pro. - Hunter S Thompson
#133. To: Minerva (#131)
Has he gone?
#134. To: For Con....this is the coolest Tube I've come across in ages. It's a pity he's on dial up and can't load these suckers. (#133)
#135. To: Jethro Tull (#133) (Edited)
Probably not. He likes to make a dramatic exit and then come back with several nit picking clean up posts. The French call it the wit of the stairway. All clods seem to manifest it in some way or the other.
... and I like cyber f**k the males. -- Ponchy
#136. To: Jethro Tull (#134)
do you ever shop at kroger?
When the going gets weird the weird turn pro. - Hunter S Thompson
#137. To: Dakmar (#121)
Fat black bucks in a wine-barrel room, Sagged and reeled and pounded on the table, THEN I SAW THE CONGO, CREEPING THROUGH THE BLACK, And a thigh-bone beating on a tin-pan gong. A roaring, epic, rag-time tune Listen to the yell of Leopold’s ghost Or Mumbo-Jumbo, God of the Congo, To hell with them africans, kicking us out of olduvai gorge. I can't let that go, you dig?
Barrel-house kings, with feet unstable,
Pounded on the table,
Beat an empty barrel with the handle of a broom,
Hard as they were able,
Boom, boom, BOOM,
With a silk umbrella and the handle of a broom,
Boomlay, boomlay, boomlay, BOOM.
THEN I had religion, THEN I had a vision.
I could not turn from their revel in derision.
CUTTING THROUGH THE FOREST WITH A GOLDEN TRACK.
Then along that riverbank
A thousand miles
Tattooed cannibals danced in files;
Then I heard the boom of the blood-lust song
And "BLOOD" screamed the whistles and the fifes of the warriors,
"BLOOD" screamed the skull-faced, lean witch-doctors,
"Whirl ye the deadly voo-doo rattle,
Harry the uplands,
Steal all the cattle,
Rattle-rattle, rattle-rattle,
Bing.
Boomlay, boomlay, boomlay, BOOM,"
From the mouth of the Congo
To the Mountains of the Moon.
Death is an Elephant,
Torch-eyed and horrible,
Foam-flanked and terrible.
BOOM, steal the pygmies,
BOOM, kill the Arabs,
BOOM, kill the white men,
HOO, HOO, HOO.
Burning in Hell for his hand-maimed host.
Hear how the demons chuckle and yell
Cutting his hands off, down in Hell.
Listen to the creepy proclamation,
Blown through the lairs of the forest-nation,
Blown past the white-ants’ hill of clay,
Blown past the marsh where the butterflies play:—
"Be careful what you do,
And all of the other
Gods of the Congo,
Mumbo-Jumbo will hoo-doo you,
Mumbo-Jumbo will hoo-doo you,
Mumbo-Jumbo will hoo-doo you."
... and I like cyber f**k the males. -- Ponchy
#138. To: Minerva (#137)
Um, yeah, that or Granny Gets Married is always good
When the going gets weird the weird turn pro. - Hunter S Thompson
#139. To: Dakmar (#138)
Wild crap-shooters with a whoop and a call THEN I SAW THE CONGO, CREEPING THROUGH THE BLACK, A negro fairyland swung into view, A troupe of skull-faced witch-men came But the witch-men suddenly stilled the throng And they pranced with their butterfly partners there, The cake-walk royalty then began While the witch-men laughed, with a sinister air, Oh rare was the revel, and well worth while
Danced the juba in their gambling-hall
And laughed fit to kill, and shook the town,
And guyed the policemen and laughed them down
With a boomlay, boomlay, boomlay, BOOM.
CUTTING THROUGH THE FOREST WITH A GOLDEN TRACK.
A minstrel river
Where dreams come true.
The ebony palace soared on high
Through the blossoming trees to the evening sky.
The inlaid porches and casements shone
With gold and ivory and elephant-bone.
And the black crowd laughed till their sides were sore
At the baboon butler in the agate door,
And the well-known tunes of the parrot band
That trilled on the bushes of that magic land.
Through the agate doorway in suits of flame,
Yea, long-tailed coats with a gold-leaf crust
And hats that were covered with diamond-dust.
And the crowd in the court gave a whoop and a call
And danced the juba from wall to wall.
With a stern cold glare, and a stern old song:—
"Mumbo-Jumbo will hoo-doo you." . . .
. Just then from the doorway, as fat as shotes,
Came the cake-walk princes in their long red coats,
Canes with a brilliant lacquer shine,
And tall silk hats that were red as wine.
Coal-black maidens with pearls in their hair,
Knee-skirts trimmed with the jassamine sweet,
And bells on their ankles and little black feet.
And the couples railed at the chant and the frown
Of the witch-men lean, and laughed them down.
(O rare was the revel, and well worth while
That made those glowering witch-men smile.)
To walk for a cake that was tall as a man
To the tune of "Boomlay, boomlay, BOOM,"
And sang with the scalawags prancing there:—
"Walk with care, walk with care,
Or Mumbo-Jumbo, God of the Congo,
And all of the other
Gods of the Congo,
Mumbo-Jumbo will hoo-doo you.
Beware, beware, walk with care,
Boomlay, boomlay, boomlay, boom.
Boomlay, boomlay, boomlay, boom,
Boomlay, boomlay, boomlay, boom,
Boomlay, boomlay, boomlay,
BOOM."
That made those glowering witch-men smile.
... and I like cyber f**k the males. -- Ponchy
#140. To: Jethro Tull (#133)
has ponchy been on another rampage? it looks like it. seriously - he would be much better off if he would smoke pot instead of drinking all the time.
"And this is the end of my brilliant career on the 4um..." -- ponchy 12/20/2006
#141. To: Elliott Jackalope (#40)
But for all intents and purposes, it is just about that easy. The only thing that is necessary is to add a few wordings and cull a few of the later amendments so there is less, or no wiggle room for politicians to screw with it. The Constitution didn't fail us, the people that were elected and did the electing hold that responsibility. Off the bat, I'd say repeal the 17th amendment, and make sufferage dependant on being a net positive contributor to the tax base. Eliminate any governmental facilitation of business. Abolish any type of taxes upon personal property. Disband the Federal Reserve and return all of it's monetary responsibilities to the Treasury, issuing money strictly based upon whatever private concerns proffer for the creation of coinage and what the government aquires through the imposition of tariffs and interstate management fees (i.e. they could concievably place toll crossings at state border crossings on the interstat system since they essentially built it with the aggregate of taxpayers dollars). You get the picture, we basically need a "reset", or a sunsetting of huge amounts of bureaucracy...
And please, let's try to be a little more sophisticated than simply saying "let's go back to the Constitution", since that document did not prevent this current situation from coming to pass.
"pound pastrami, can kraut, six bagels – bring home for Emma"
#142. To: Redheadedstranger, Zipporah (#54)
You didn't answer the question. I may have it wrong, as Jim Gannon is bald, but what's up with "cyber fucking males"? Are you a fag?
YOu'd better being staying on good terms with the 4um managment son. OTherwise zipporah will be editing your posts and reading your private insite emails, too.
You appear to be a major trouble maker...and I'm getting really pissed. - GoldiLox, 7/27/2006
#143. To: Axenolith, Elliott Jackalope (#141)
that's where it must begin. none of this madness could have been done had we not handed our country over to the bankers and adopted a fiat currency system. they'll be no resetting until/unless there's a complete economic collapse. then and only then do we have a chance of a redo.
Disband the Federal Reserve and return all of it's monetary responsibilities to the Treasury,
#144. To: FormerLurker (#142)
ponchy is 'ghey', but i think that is the same thing. also, his nickname is 'horse humper' and i suspect there is a story behind that too.
I may have it wrong, as Jim Gannon is bald, but what's up with "cyber fucking males"? Are you a fag?
"And this is the end of my brilliant career on the 4um..." -- ponchy 12/20/2006
#145. To: Morgana le Fay (#144)
also, his nickname is 'horse humper' and i suspect there is a story behind that too. Hmmm. Seems like "ponchy" is quite a "colorful" character, and would have been a much less bitter person if only he had been given a part in humpback mountain.
ponchy is 'ghey', but i think that is the same thing.
You appear to be a major trouble maker...and I'm getting really pissed. - GoldiLox, 7/27/2006
#146. To: Zipporah (#47)
It was more of a vague non-response. Something that makes you go "hmmm".
Uh this should be an interesting reply :P
You appear to be a major trouble maker...and I'm getting really pissed. - GoldiLox, 7/27/2006
#147. To: FormerLurker (#145)
ponchy is only bitter because no one likes him and everyone laughs at him. he will be fine after he is reincarnated as different person with a new personality. although i suspect he will first have to spend a few lifetimes as Ted Haggard's hemmoroid cream.
Hmmm. Seems like "ponchy" is quite a "colorful" character, and would have been a much less bitter person if only he had been given a part in humpback mountain.
"And this is the end of my brilliant career on the 4um..." -- ponchy 12/20/2006
#148. To: FormerLurker (#142)
Look, you cretin, I'm continental op, and I didn't write that. Jethro Tull edited my post. "Are you a fag?" No. JT likes to fuck with my posts so that it looks like I'm writing total nonsense. He can do that because he has moderator-powers on this site. Don't that make you feel safe?
but what's up with "cyber fucking males"?
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#149. To: Redheadedstranger (#148)
ponchy, you did write it. it went up that way and it never channged. you just tried to take it back when people started cat calling over it. just let it go. if people weren't laughing at you over your post, they would just be laughing at you over something else.
Look, you cretin, I'm continental op, and I didn't write that. Jethro Tull edited my post.
"And this is the end of my brilliant career on the 4um..." -- ponchy 12/20/2006
#150. To: Redheadedstranger (#130) (Edited)
Let me explain this to you; I don't care what kind of problem a person of your malicious and arrogant nature presents, it is just window dressing to your show of doing the posting version of the screeching monkey in the tree throwing handfuls of his own fresh shit at people below him anyway. And I hope that metaphor is not too complex for you to grasp yourself.
"You don't have a clue what's going on. JT has been fucking with my posts for about a year, now. It's become a moderately amusing game. I posted this morning, on my lunch break, and in the evening, but I suppose this is all a bit complicated for you... "
#151. To: Ferret Mike (#150)
Hey, I admit it. What else would you have me do, here and at LP? Why should I engaged in serious and polite discussion with you?
And I hope that metaphor is not too complex for you to grasp yourself.
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#152. To: Ferret Mike (#150)
it is too complex for ponchy. he does however spend a lot of time 'grasping himself' --- mostly below the belt.
And I hope that metaphor is not too complex for you to grasp yourself.
"And this is the end of my brilliant career on the 4um..." -- ponchy 12/20/2006
#153. To: Redheadedstranger (#151)
Hey con. I actually like you, despite your tendency for nasty spew directed at some of my best friends. It's a new year. Try normal for a change.
#154. To: Horse Humper (#151)
we asked ourselves the same question about you mr. poney poker.
Why should I engaged in serious and polite discussion with you?
"And this is the end of my brilliant career on the 4um..." -- ponchy 12/20/2006
#155. To: Jethro Tull (#153)
being normal makes his brain overheat.
Try normal for a change.
"And this is the end of my brilliant career on the 4um..." -- ponchy 12/20/2006
#156. To: Morgana le Fay (#155)
Why are people such humps?
#157. To: Jethro Tull (#156)
ponchy would rather be laughed at and avoided than be ignored. he isn't capable of anything else.
Why are people such humps?
"And this is the end of my brilliant career on the 4um..." -- ponchy 12/20/2006
#158. To: Redheadedstranger (#151) (Edited)
These are virtual communities that exist on other levels then mere political discussion and lively debate of the issues and major stories. So whether one like certain people in a bord or not, an amount of courtesy including agreeing to disagree is helpful. Anyone who comes in and thinks they are going to wrap a board around their little rhetorical finger and shake it like a pit bull killing an eight week old kitten is living in la la land. You are amusing to watch, which is why in earlier posts I talked about the spectacle of the court jesters whose antics always were pregnant with political innuendo when such people officially existed as part of a respected vocation. You should can the resentment and realistically deal with what you can charge about a board and can't. Now I don't dislike you nor get excited by your consternations because I understand what you are doing too well. You decide what you want to do. If you just post in the normal flow of things where you wanted too, you might be too bored by that because it engenders no air of notoriety. Which is why you do what you do, you need this air of the scoundrel or you wouldn't post here. You remind me of Colonel Flagg in the TV series of MASH. You live in and for your own little world, and what you go by, people do stop to watch and wonder at yet another example of why people sometimes wonder if the de- institutionalization of the mental health system was indeed a good thing for this country. ;-D
#159. To: Ferret Mike (#150) (Edited)
And I hope that metaphor is not too complex for you to grasp yourself. It's lonely at the top of the tree. Bonus link: Drunk Monkey Recipe.
Let me explain this to you; I don't care what kind of problem a person of your malicious and arrogant nature presents, it is just window dressing to your show of doing the posting version of the screeching monkey in the tree throwing handfuls of his own fresh shit at people below him anyway.
The more corrupt the state, the more numerous the laws. – Tacitus
#160. To: Ferret Mike (#158)
These are "virtual communities" who have no reason for existence, whatsoever. "you live in and for your own little world" Ferret, you are partly correct here, but what you don't understand is that I don't live a cyber-fantasy life/world. You do. I come here to intrude on the 4um world and laugh at the lot of you. To the world at large, I'm not the guy who looks like a complete weirdo going down street. I'm not the guy who is aways wrong in his political prognostications and who exists on this board wholly to post music and chat. No, Ferret, I like to descend down here to talk nonense, and offend the children. That's all. You found my statement about your inferior mentality, insulting? Take a good look at your egalitarian self. I'm not setting myself up as a superior person, or calling myself a genius. All I'm saying is that I am superior to most of the posters on this site. In a word, it's easy to be a giant among pygmies. On other forums, I don't set myself up as any better than anyone else. Here, I have no choice...
These are virtual communities that exist on other levels then mere political discussion and lively debate of the issues and major stories.
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#161. To: Redheadedstranger (#160)
But, but, but....you asked for reinstatement. You asked me. So,,,like,,,,WTF? If you aren't happy here nuke yourself.
Ferret, you are partly correct here, but what you don't understand is that I don't live a cyber-fantasy life/world. You do. I come here to intrude on the 4um world and laugh at the lot of you.
#162. To: Redheadedstranger (#160)
you do on libertysflame and freedomunderground, and those are the only two that have not booted you off.
On other forums, I don't set myself up as any better than anyone else.
"And this is the end of my brilliant career on the 4um..." -- ponchy 12/20/2006
#163. To: Nostalgia (#31)
Now you see, this is why people think I'm wrecking the curve on this place. People are using profanity almost as much as I do. All kidding aside, RHS does make a couple salient points. What interests me, is how he knows so much about Jethro Tull.
| This country's priorities are all fucked up. |
#164. To: TommyTheMadArtist (#163)
Well, Tommy, there are times when only a good f*ck will do. ;-)
#165. To: Jethro Tull (#161)
Why is ponchy so quiet? Is he too hung over to type?
... and I like cyber f**k the males. -- Ponchy
#166. To: Redheadedstranger, morgana le fay, jethro tull, all, willyone (#160) (Edited)
An oxymoron if I've ever seen one. The only thing worse than a hypocrite egoist, is a hypocrite egoist that's an inebriated asshole puking over the porcelain god.. You have grown tiresome. You and willy are both gone. Bye now. I come here to intrude on the 4um world and laugh at the lot of you....I'm not setting myself up as a superior person...
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In a CorporoFascist capitalist society, there is no money in peace, freedom, or a healthy population, and therefore, no incentive to achieve these - - IndieTX In a time of universal deceit, telling the truth is a revolutionary act - - George Orwell
#167. To: Redheadedstranger (#160)
You ain't no walking Menza test chum, just an ego that fits your body as well as a fat woman's foot fits a size five shoe. As for living in " a cyber-fantasy life/world," you probably haven't noticed because you are not local and living in your own bubble that I am involved in real life political efficacy and this posting is just a minor extension of what I do. I won't bore you with why learning to communicate and articulate and work through aspects of political stands and discussions on the issues is valuable practice to make other political chores I do in real time easier, because you only care about tending your own delusions of grandeur here anyway. But back to the premise of the above quote from you; the fact of the matter is that if I were dumb. it would bother me and threaten my ego if I at some level suspected it to be true. But I live an existence very aware of my smarts, talents and even my short comings. Thus your take on me only serves to show how you can try to 'cyber- fuck' me with motive laden poison, but whether I am indeed dumb or smart plays no role in the mission intended for your rhetorical poison. Sorry, I just not impressed by you. And I am hip to your trip. So thanks in other words for preforming yet another amusing jester dance. You do juggle and sing nicely indeed. I am well entertained, where do I send the tip? ;-)
"You found my statement about your inferior mentality, insulting?"
#168. To: Redheadedstranger (#160)
Fer maximum enjoyment, first select a horse of convenient size.
THERE'S NOT ONE DOUBT IN MY MIND THAT WE WILL FAIL - GW Bush
#169. To: Jethro Tull (#161)
Which is why I had to re-register, right JT?
But, but, but....you asked for reinstatement.
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#170. To: TommyTheMadArtist (#163)
Me and JT go way back. I may have sold him some diesel once, back before the Y2k...
What interests me, is how he knows so much about Jethro Tull.
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#171. To: Ferret Mike (#167)
How would you know? You don't like me, Ferret, and you have the right. But your bias clouds your judgement, because in every serious debate we've had over the years, I"ve pw4n your ass. "I am involved in real life political efficacy" Living a fantasy. "I won't bore you with why learning to communicate and articulate and work through aspects of political stands and discussions on the issues is valuable practice to make other political chores I do in real time easier" Well, since you deal with retarded treehuggers, I will admit that this is a good place to perfect your technique in handling your subhuman followers. "the fact of the matter is that if I were dumb. it would bother me and threaten my ego if I at some level suspected it to be true." Clever psychological strawman. "But I live an existence very aware of my smarts, talents and even my short comings" Which is why you like to post here. It makes you feel superior, subconsciously
You ain't no walking Menza test chum
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#172. To: Redheadedstranger (#169)
Mandingo is available.
#173. To: Redheadedstranger (#171)
When the going gets weird the weird turn pro. - Hunter S Thompson
#174. To: Jethro Tull, IndieTX (#172)
When your first kid, marries a spic or negro, you can show that at the wedding. Your kids aren't all married, are they? And bwt, tell Indie I love him like a brother; he's a good poster. The bozo done put me on bozo, though...
Mandingo is available.
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#175. To: Redheadedstranger (#171)
Actually I chose not to waste the enery to do more then find you somewhat annoying and ignorant as the day is long. But that's just me. Others can chose to waste time on you or not at their own desgression. I am fine withy you staying or chosing to leave, I just don't care. Amusing post, and you are the one obsessed with the notion of inferiority or superiority, which points to where your insecurities lie and say allot as to why they exist. You could well be a self loathing gay Negro man too judging by what other wedge issues obsess you, but hey, what ever fires your rocket, homey.
"How would you know? You don't like me, Ferret, and you have the right. But your bias clouds your judgement, because in every serious debate we've had over the years, I"ve pw4n your ass."
#176. To: Jethro Tull (#172)
What do you think? Is this Pounchie a self loathing gay Negro man, or a man hating Negro woman whose asian husband beats her compelling her to find passive- aggressive avenues of scapegoating others to compensate for her inadequacies? You know he/she has to be one or the other.
#177. To: Ferret Mike (#176)
Ponchie unfortunately is developing a case of the Buckeroo's. He has gone from someone who had a sense of humor, to a dour grump. He isn't aging well.
#178. To: Ferret Mike (#175)
That's right, Ferret. Stick both fingers in your ears, and go to humming. And don't get too serious because I will come down on you like a ton of rectangular building things if I hear any serious b.s. from you.
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#179. To: Jethro Tull (#177)
Said the potbellied, balding irish enunch
He isn't aging well.
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#180. To: Redheadedstranger (#179) (Edited)
Is a hangover driving the bad mood or did you run out of Prozac?
... and I like cyber f**k the males. -- Ponchy
#181. To: Redheadedstranger (#179)
A word to the wise. If you in any way damage my online persona, the law firm of Sheeny, Sheeny & Cohen will chew your butt off.
#182. To: Jethro Tull (#181)
Your brothers in law?
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#183. To: Redheadedstranger (#182)
Where's Tubby aka TLBSHOW? He still owes me money so I hope he's still alive.
#184. To: Redheadedstranger (#178)
You mean like if I do serious ad hominem attacks like point out your Mama shit an asshole into the world? or I bet nobody got the dog licence on your daddy's tag after he screwed your multi-species little self into the world? Screw you. Unless you are eyeball to eyeball with me, any nastiness online mean nothing.
"That's right, Ferret. Stick both fingers in your ears, and go to humming. And don't get too serious because I will come down on you like a ton of rectangular building things if I hear any serious b.s. from you."
#185. To: Ferret Mike (#184)
No, I mean like any pontifications on anything but trees.
You mean like if I do serious ad hominem attacks like point out your Mama shit an asshole into the world?
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#186. To: Fred Mertz (#183)
Sorry you got burned. Too bad he's not living in Lane County Oregon, I would derive a great deal of pleasure turning him upside down and shaking the contents out of his pockets to send you payments for you. Or by having a beautiful lady friend tease and bait him into a drunken stupor then having a friend tattoo, "I paid for Anne Coulter's sex change operation" on his forehead to make him wish he'd of paid up. ;-D
"Where's Tubby aka TLBSHOW? He still owes me money so I hope he's still alive."
#187. To: Fred Mertz (#183)
You were in his area, recently and didn't stop by to visit? What kind of a pal are you?
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#188. To: Redheadedstranger (#185)
You mean like my pride at being a race mixer having had children with an African American woman and how I know the U.S. will be a much better place once genetic defusion has made us look more alike in this country and the world? ;-D
"No, I mean like any pontifications on anything but trees."
#189. To: Ferret Mike (#186)
Ah, we're in an aggressive mood, today, are we? Did that bucket of chainsaw oil thrown upon you extinguish your blunt?
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#190. To: Ferret Mike (#188)
Yes. That sort of thing, Dr. Ferret, noted geneticist and mud-lover.
You mean like my pride at being a race mixer having had children with an African American woman and how I know the U.S. will be a much better place once genetic defusion has made us look more alike in this country and the world? ;-
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#191. To: Ferret Mike (#188)
You mean like my pride at being a race mixer having had children with an African American woman and how I know the U.S. will be a much better place once genetic defusion has made us look more alike in this country and the world? ;-D Then we'll just hate short people or fat people or people who open their Christmas presents on Christmas Eve, not Christmas morning. It's an unfortunate part of the human condition, unless raised to be tolerant and open-minded.
The more corrupt the state, the more numerous the laws. – Tacitus
#192. To: robin (#191)
Your life wouldn't be worth living if you didn't have bush and the jews to hate. Take it from me...
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#193. To: Redheadedstranger (#189)
I own two nice, very expensive Husqvarna chainsaws, chaps, scores of chains and several bars and have used them with my OSHA approved climbing gear to do tree service work, to cut fire line and do pre-commercial thinning when I did that years ago. Chainsaws are like guns, it isn't the tool that is the problem, it's more in how they can be mis-used. As far as blunt goes, I don't smoke many blunts or pipeloads anymore and don't much miss it, so if you want some of that, you need to find other sources for it, mine are iffy at best these days.
"Ah, we're in an aggressive mood, today, are we? Did that bucket of chainsaw oil thrown upon you extinguish your blunt?"
#194. To: Redheadedstranger (#190) (Edited)
You of course abide by the racist blush red in the face standard for deciding what part of the human species you don't loathe. Your racism and narrow mindedness shows quite graphically an ignorance indicative of a shallow range of mental attributes. Your short comings in this department is your problem, not mine. If it was ever in my face projecting itself on me, I assure you turning you into pretzel boy and removing it from my face would not be any problem I might add.
"That sort of thing, Dr. Ferret, noted geneticist and mud- lover."
#195. To: Redheadedstranger (#192)
Miscontrue what I've posted all you want, it just shines the light more clearly on what you are. I hate treason and murder, and will continue to point out the traitors and murderers regardless of their religion and race.
The more corrupt the state, the more numerous the laws. – Tacitus
#196. To: robin (#191)
Quite true. As a small boy I hated fat people and Negroes until I started learning, listening and reading. I realized I had assimulated the hatred from my Mother and left her to wallow in the filth of her bigotry a long time ago and I am glad I did. Too bad more people are not smart enough to challenge childhood indoctrination with facts and critical thinking. It they did, this world would be a much better place.
"It's an unfortunate part of the human condition, unless raised to be tolerant and open-minded."
#197. To: Ferret Mike (#194)
I'm mixed-race and I despise them all. "Your racism and narrow mindedness shows quite graphically an ignorance indicative of a shallow range of mental attributes. Your short comings in this department is your problem, not mine." Lets talk about science and statistics, Ferret, and why blacks and whiggers are more prone to violence and criminiality, shall we? "If it was ever in my face projecting itself on me, I assure you turning you into pretzel boy and removing it from my face would not be any problem too I might add." Snicker...have I ever threatended you with violence, warlock?
You of course abide by the racist blush red in the face standard for deciding what part of the human species you don't loathe.
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#198. To: robin (#195)
So it's okay to hate some things, as long as YOU define what they ARE, right?
I hate treason and murder
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#199. To: Ferret Mike (#196)
Your whole life, and all your neurosys are a reaction against your parents due to the traumatization you suffered as a child. You really need to overcome it all...realize that it's okay to hate people, and take a drink every couple of hours.
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#200. To: Redheadedstranger (#197)
Have you? What part of indicating that there is not a part of you in any form that is bothersome or a source of worry for me do you not understand? You can bark at the end of your chain all you want where ever and however you wish, and all you will ever be is a target rich environment politically and socially for me. One that is quite amusing too I might add. Your problems remain your problems, not mine anyway you look at it.
"have I ever threatended you with violence, warlock?"
#201. To: Ferret Mike (#200)
Ferret...stop responding. It's so easy. Bob Wallace put me on bozo the moment I posted to him.
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#202. To: Redheadedstranger (#199)
I doubt I would be fond of booze even had I not dealt with a toxic alcoholic growing up. Some people just naturally don't like it. I find hangovers to be a loathsome self inflicted injury and are a big reason I don't find yeast body waste fun to consume. As far as hate goes, it is not a tool to be uese indiscriminately. Even when justified, hatred is a game consuming the same depth and scope of energy and commitment of time and effort as love. I chose my battles much more wisely then to mis-use hatred as a tool to create wedge issue politics or to take on things that need changing. If you don't know that, then dispite what you think, you don't know me very well at all.
"Your whole life, and all your neurosys are a reaction against your parents due to the traumatization you suffered as a child. You really need to overcome it all...realize that it's okay to hate people, and take a drink every couple of hours."
#203. To: Ferret Mike (#202)
You never learned to drink. It comes naturally to some people, and some people must learn, just like they must learn to play a musical instrument. "I find hangovers to be a loathsome self inflicted injury" Good for your heart. "As far as hate goes, it is not a tool to be uese indiscriminately." Most people should not be allowed to use it at all. In cluding you.
Some people just naturally don't like it.
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#204. To: Redheadedstranger (#201)
In your own self centered bubble this may well be true, but the only thing I can really be admonished here for is for wasting time arguing with an idiot. Because no matter how right one may be, if you do it long enough, deeply enough a point in time comes when the objective lurker can no longer differentiate which one is the nut, and which one is the nut shell cracker.
"Ferret...stop responding. It's so easy."
#205. To: Ferret Mike (#204)
From your pov. From the lurker's pov you look just as big a jackass. It's been proven that I attracted traffic to a forum, and you don't.
but the only thing I can really be admonished here for is for wasting time arguing with an idiot
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#206. To: Redheadedstranger (#203) (Edited)
Heh, wrong. I was in the U.S. Army nine years and have had my experiances getting drunk in Rick's Lounge on Hay Street in Fayetteville lusting after the strippers to be one of the boys in the clique I ran with at the time. I am just smart enough after that experiance to look beyond that narrow, channeled world view to find something more meaningful and lasting then that. ;- D
"You never learned to drink."
#207. To: Redheadedstranger (#198)
So it's okay to hate some things, as long as YOU define what they ARE, right? A simple dictionary definition is sufficient. I hate treason and murder
The more corrupt the state, the more numerous the laws. – Tacitus
#208. To: Ferret Mike (#206)
Negative, experience. Real drinking is done alone.
I was in the U.S. Army nine years and have had my experiances getting drunk in Rick's Lounge on Hay Street in Fayetteville lusting after the strippers to be one of the boys in the clique I ran with at the time.
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#209. To: robin (#207)
Fine. Now explain why we should traitor and killers, and why we should not hate fat slobs, and negros?
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#210. To: Redheadedstranger (#205)
Yeah, I did notice how much in demand your services are. ;-D The jester was always an important part of the royal court to interject humorous lampooning and antics to lighten things up and to break the mood. So your simular role here is not begrudged by me at all. So, why on Earth would you think that would be otherwise enough to pose that as a point of order here?
"It's been proven that I attracted traffic to a forum, and you don't."
#211. To: Redheadedstranger (#208)
So is real glue huffing.
"Negative, experience. Real drinking is done alone."
#212. To: Ferret Mike (#210)
No, you haven't because you only know me on three or four forums, under one sceen name.
Yeah, I did notice how much in demand your services are. ;-D
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#213. To: Ferret Mike (#196)
like that song in South Pacific YOU'VE GOT TO BE CAREFULLY TAUGHT
The more corrupt the state, the more numerous the laws. – Tacitus
#214. To: Ferret Mike (#211)
I wouldn't know...
So is real glue huffing.
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#215. To: Redheadedstranger (#209)
If you don't know by now, I doubt if I could help you. You could start a self-help program with the musical South Pacific, YOU'VE GOT TO BE CAREFULLY TAUGHT.
The more corrupt the state, the more numerous the laws. – Tacitus
#216. To: Redheadedstranger (#214)
I know lots of solo drinkers, huffers and cranksters, they all share a common trait called the perma-tweak. No matter how hard they try, normal sane thought has a distortion to it as the brain damage the behavior slowly damages the seat of reason, the human brain. I don't want to go there, so you are welcome to your pastime of solo drinking, but I sure don't want any of it.
"I wouldn't know..."
#217. To: robin (#215)
YOU WERE CAREFULLLY BRAINWASHED.
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#218. To: Ferret Mike (#216)
Drinking is like that. It either makes you or breaks you. So far, I ain't broke.
but I sure don't want any of it.
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#219. To: Redheadedstranger (#212)
Gee, I feel so deprived, not witnessing you at your most depraved moments online. ;-D
"No, you haven't because you only know me on three or four forums, under one sceen name."
#220. To: Ferret Mike (#219)
Depraved seems teh wrong adjective. I could buy kooky, stupid, asshole...ect. Not depraved...ridiculous...
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#221. To: Redheadedstranger (#218)
As drinking involves the organ responsible for that highly objective observation, I remain sceptical of this outlook of yours'.
"Drinking is like that. It either makes you or breaks you. So far, I ain't broke."
#222. To: Redheadedstranger (#220)
Loathing millions of people whom you have never met is depraved, trust me. There is nothing romatic about being a bigot.
"Depraved seems teh wrong adjective. I could buy kooky, stupid, asshole...ect. Not depraved...ridiculous..."
#223. To: Ferret Mike (#221)
It depends on the genetics, of course. A lot of people can't hold the beast down, but I come from a long line of drunks (on my mothers side) and a long line of abstainers and it all balances out in the end...
I remain sceptical of this outlook of yours'
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#224. To: Ferret Mike (#222)
Nothing romantic about being a tree-hugger. But we just keep on keeping on, don't we, Ferret?
There is nothing romatic about being a bigot.
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#225. To: Redheadedstranger (#217)
Baptists are normally really good at that. Fortunately, my grandmother was a schoolteacher and stressed education. (As a teenager I babysat in homes w/o a dictionary or even a bookshelf, and they were always the most intolerant families in the neighborhood.) Education and travel are wonderful ways to detox; for whatever remains, there's prayer and fasting.
The more corrupt the state, the more numerous the laws. – Tacitus
#226. To: Redheadedstranger (#224) (Edited)
Non-violent civil disobedience is not romantic. Fortunately that is not why I have used it as a tool to try to effect change. It is real work and if one tries to do it to fine romance, adventure, recognition and excitement one soon abandons the task at hand. You have to really love what you are fighting for and really believe in it even to the point it can cost you everything. Why on Earth would you think that after I have done what I have done I wouldn't know all the positives and negatives of using this sort of political and social tools?
"Nothing romantic about being a tree-hugger."
#227. To: robin (#225)
Yes, they are. Have a drink.
Baptists are normally really good at that.
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#228. To: Ferret Mike (#226)
Ferret you're a master of missing the point. But thanks anyway. Your arguements justify my "unromantic bigotry," perfectly. Btw. do you think it'se eazy being a bigot? Huh?
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#229. To: Redheadedstranger (#228)
You mean I am better at jousting then you are? I know what the points are, that I don't metaphorically allow them access to my liver or other innerds does not mean I don't appreciate the damage these 'points' can do. It merely means I don't want them to do it.
"Ferret you're a master of missing the point."
#230. To: Redheadedstranger (#227)
No thanks, my red haired cousin died of alcoholism, I'll pass.
The more corrupt the state, the more numerous the laws. – Tacitus
#231. To: Ferret Mike (#229)
The fact stil remains that you made my case for me...
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#232. To: robin (#230)
Fortunately my hair is dark brown.
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#233. To: Redheadedstranger (#228)
Yes I do. If one can't control irrationally impulsive behavior and put your mind in gear to critically evaluate it, putting your mouth in motion to engage in it is easy to do.
"do you think it'se eazy being a bigot?"
#234. To: Ferret Mike (#233)
That's because you don't acknowledge bigotry as being as reasonable a doctrine as enviromentalism.
Yes I do.
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#235. To: Redheadedstranger (#234)
Bigotry has much the same socio-economic motivation to it as the loot pillage and burn ethos enviromental advocacy combats. Environmental advocacy works to protect wealth all life share in common on this planet, much as advocacy combatting racism does.
"That's because you don't acknowledge bigotry as being as reasonable a doctrine as enviromentalism.
#236. To: Redheadedstranger (#187)
His last phone number was disconnected and he hasn't given me his new one...if he has one, that is. He hasn't replied to my PMessages either. I did hear from him about 2 months ago. I've given up loaning money...live and learn and pass it on.
You were in his area, recently and didn't stop by to visit?
#237. To: Ferret Mike (#235)
In other words, you're saying it was a unique form of self-preservation. I agree with your analysis one hundred percent. "Environmental advocacy works to protect wealth all life share in common on this planet, much as advocacy combatting racism does" And here, you're mistaken. You and your buddies may have added anti-racialism to the platform in the fifty years, but previous to that, enviromentalism began with the tribal medicine man announcing to his people that they would run out of resoucres if they did not give him silver and sacrifice a virgin to the moon goddess. THAT is where environmentalism comes from.
Bigotry has much the same socio-economic motivation to it as the loot pillage and burn ethos enviromental advocacy combats.
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#238. To: Fred Mertz (#236)
#1 Reason I owe a good friend money and until I get it paid I am not going to be wasting time posting on the internet. Enjoy the weather... http://libertysflame.com/cgi-bin/homepage.cgi?h=TLBSHOW Now I have told you before it happens so that, when it happens, you may believe TLBSHOW posted on 2007-01-10 22:57:35 ET Reply Trace Private Reply Looks like you're going to get your money back, Freddy. I'd trust TLBSHOW wiht my life...what there is of it...anyway...
#3. To: continental op (#0)
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#239. To: Redheadedstranger (#218) (Edited)
No, it turned you into the clown of the internet. And we're glad you're not broke or we would have to let buckeroo back on.
Drinking is like that. It either makes you or breaks you. So far, I ain't broke.
... and I like cyber f**k the males. -- Ponchy
#240. To: Ferret Mike (#233) (Edited)
How come internet clowns are always dumb, nasty drunks like Ponchy? Why can't we get a persoanable, philosophical pot smoker for a change?
... and I like cyber f**k the males. -- Ponchy
#241. To: Christine (#240)
** ping **
... and I like cyber f**k the males. -- Ponchy
#242. To: Minerva (#240)
that's a very good question, Minerva. ;)
#243. To: Minerva (#239)
Ponchy Doodle on the farm Ponchy Doodle gets it up
A-humpin’ on his pony
There’s not a poster on the ‘net
That posts more sheer baloney.
Ponchy Doodle dandy
Ponchy Doodle gets it up
Wit’ horseflesh he is handy.
THERE'S NOT ONE DOUBT IN MY MIND THAT WE WILL FAIL - GW Bush
#244. To: Redheadedstranger (#238)
Thanks for that link, ponchy. He's already covered 30% of the debt so that is a good sign. I trust that he's good for it even if he's late.
#245. To: Fred Mertz (#244)
If I were you, I'd take my Shylockian pound of fat. Tubby can afford to lose it...
"I've been running from the devil and he hasn't caught me yet."--Jason Boland and the Stragglers.
#246. To: Redheadedstranger (#245)
Why don't you try smoking pot before you come on tomorrow instead of getting drunk? We are curious to see how the change affects you.
... and I like cyber f**k the males. -- Ponchy
#247. To: Redheadedstranger (#245)
The only condition I asked for was the loan be repaid within one year. I don't charge interest, but I tell the loanee if they want to (voluntarily) add a few bucks they can.
#248. To: Redheadedstranger (#245)
Ponchy, we've decided to convert you into a well mannered, intelligent, meterosexual. You are going to have to pay close attention as this is going to take a lot of work. First, I want you to start drinking mango juice instead of alcohol. Also, no chewing tobacco.
... and I like cyber f**k the males. -- Ponchy
#249. To: Redheadedstranger (#245)
We also want you to go to Gay Indians with Personality Problems Anonymous meetings. Do you have a directory for your area?
... and I like cyber f**k the males. -- Ponchy
#250. To: Redheadedstranger (#237)
No, it is about a fundimental difference in the way life is looked at and treated. Many people including me are proponents of 'Deep Ecology' which supports life forms existing with the right to be there merely for the value it's esistance has for itself. Not all perogeratives of life should bear pre-empting merely because some nasty hairless primate can make a buck off it. Allot of forest, sea life, large mammal species should be reserved and allowed safe passage migrating as well as be allowed to live out it's life spans naturally. We contend humans are too greedy and self centered. It is important to take care of people, but the species has responsibilities it has been ignoring to it's detriment. We have a moral obligation to this planet and all other life on it to stay in the carrying load of people that can be sustained and we need to restore and protect the heritage and inheritence of future generations by restoring habitate and replacing thoughtlessly destroyed things of value all life owned in common. Do a Google on 'Deep Ecology,' and when you get up to speed on the real nature of the fundimentals driving much the debate on environmental issues get back to me and I will help you get frther out of the rut of ignorant supposition you have been living in on the issue.
"And here, you're mistaken. You and your buddies may have added anti-racialism to the platform in the fifty years, but previous to that, enviromentalism began with the tribal medicine man announcing to his people that they would run out of resoucres if they did not give him silver and sacrifice a virgin to the moon goddess."
#251. To: Ferret Mike (#250)
I'm not getting into that Ferret. Your philosophy could be deconstructed, by your mind wouldn't be changed, so why should I waste my time? You, otoh, haven't proved that your "Deep Ecology" is superior to the racialism that is a natural trait in the human race.
Many people including me are proponents of 'Deep Ecology' which supports life forms existing with the right to be there merely for the value it's esistance has for itself.
"I've been running from the devil and he hasn't caught me yet."--Jason Boland and the Stragglers.
#252. To: Fibr Dog, all, lodwick, christine, redhead troller, noone222, ferret mike, eoghan, sam houston, honway (#29) (Edited)
You is right on da money! But you ain't spose' ta spill da beans about dat goy! We almost gots lots of goy like redhead in our traps and you go and blab! What da goy don't know is most of da goyim "patriot" movement are government plants, including Bo Grittz and a few other well knowed radio personalization types who will go unexpozed by dis Jew. You know how you can tell an honest patriot? When dey is killed by our servants. William Cooper still alive? Nope! We was gonna take out Chuck H but we decided to destroy him financialy instead and get him on our payroll under threat of being deceased.Therefore, I have come to the conclusion that Turner is a government plant. I believe he has made these statements in order to flush-out those inclined to do violence against the government. Once they make themselves known, they will be secretly investigated via the Patriot Act. If they are found to be doing anything illegal, they will be arrested and prosecuted for those crimes, having no idea that what started their investigation was their letter, e-mail, or phone call to Hal Turner. If they are not doing anything illegal, they will be put on the no-fly list and kept under government surveillence of some sort
Ask yosef who IS still out there spewing seemingly untouchable by us? :)) Ever ask yoself why?? I said enuf. -- Shalom bro
I worship Israel. Kill all Arabs and let Allah sort 'em out. We are the chosen ones. Shalom.
#253. To: Fibr Dog (#29)
your comments are logical in 29. I think we bette get used to a 'dark' age coming down on us. who knows how many of our news sources are compromised. who knows how many honest sources have been shut down by covert means. I mean the division we saw in American Free Press didn't seem normal. you know they routinely infiltrated all the militia, the communists, the klan, the patriots, etc. why wouldn't they infiltrate our news sources.
Galatians 3:29 And if ye [be] Christ's, then are ye Abraham's seed, and heirs according to the promise.
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