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Title: 'Assassination' schedule announced for Congress-Radio-show host (Hal Turner) says leaders won't be allowed to 'betray' nation
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World Net Daily
URL Source: http://www.wnd.com/news/article.asp?ARTICLE_ID=53245
Published: Jan 3, 2007
Author: Media Matters
Post Date: 2007-01-03 20:04:49 by Zipporah
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'Assassination' schedule announced for Congress Radio-show host says leaders won't be allowed to 'betray' nation © 2006 WorldNetDaily.com A radio talk-show entertainer whose earlier statements that he "may" have to assassinate members of Congress if the wrong people were elected Nov. 7 now has set a timetable for those killings. In a statement on his website, Hal Turner noted that a newspaper has reported that a bill granting amnesty to illegal aliens is expected to be enacted in January, when the Democratic Party takes control of the U.S. Senate and House. "ANY MEMBER OF CONGRESS WHO INTRODUCES, CO-SPONSORS OR VOTES IN FAVOR OF ANY SUCH AMNESTY WILL BE DECLARED A DOMESTIC ENEMY AND WILL BE CONSIDERED A LEGITIMATE TARGET FOR ASSASSINATION," Turner posted on his website. "Members of Congress and the Senate will NOT be permitted to BETRAY our nation by simply GIVING AWAY the most cherished aspect of America, Citizenship, to millions of people who cared so little for what Citizenship means that they came here against our law," he continued. Several weeks ago, Turner incited much discussion when he posted the following: "We may have to ASSASSINATE some of the people you elect on Nov. 7! This could be your LAST ELECTION CHANCE, to save this Republic… "Sorry to have to be so blunt, but the country is in mortal danger from our present government and our liberty is already near dead because of this government. If you are too stupid to turn things around with your vote, there are people out here like me who are willing to turn things around with guns, force and violence. We hope our method does not become necessary," he wrote. But he defined his position as commentary instead of advocacy when one supporter wrote to Turner's website, "Hey Hal instead of saying 'may' SAY you WILL KILL THEM!!!" "No no no no no. Words mean things," Turner wrote at the time. The difference between 'may' and 'will' is the difference between an opinion and a threat," he concluded. "One is lawful, the other is not!" In the current posting, Turner has taken an aggressive stance against any effort by Congress to legalize or provide a "path to citizenship" for the millions of aliens who are in the United States illegally. "Congress will not be permitted to BETRAY our nation by giving Citizenship to tens of thousands who didn't give a s--- about our other laws as they murdered, raped, robbed, dealt illegal drugs, drove without licenses or insurance, stole the social security numbers and/or identities of millions of lawful citizens and most of whom don't give a s--- enough about our country to even learn our language!" Asked about procedures involving suspected threats to members of Congress, the U.S. Secret Service told WND that it would be interested only if the threat involved someone the Service protects. All other cases would be referred to local police jurisdictions. When WND's question specifically referred to a website statement, Secret Service spokesman Darrin Blackford told WND: "We have no comment on that statement." Paul Bresson, a spokesman for the FBI, said he couldn't confirm what investigations are being pursued. "The Internet does not give anyone a license to espouse violence, but there is a certain amount of protection, First Amendment protections, that are built in and we're mindful of those," he said. He called it a "fine line," and said what the agency would do is look at all the information available and "make a determination" whether any crime might have been committed. In the earlier situation FBI spokeswoman Debbie Weierman said such circumstances generally are turned over to a "duty agent" to review, but she couldn't provide other information until and unless a charge would be filed in any case. In the current rant, Turner calls it a "right" for Americans to act in self-defense of their nation. "Members of The United States House of Representatives or United States Senate who try to grant any form of Amnesty to millions of illegal aliens are hereby notified they may as well paint a bulls-eye target on themselves. Our Bullets don't care about their sovereign power," he wrote. "This seems to be 'it' folks. I'm going to do what I have to do to protect my nation from its government. I know where all of my New Jersey Congressmen and Senators live. Do you know where yours live? If not, you better find out before January so you can scope out their neighborhoods and prepare yourselves," he said. "Those of you who, for years, have said you're 'gonna do this' or 'gonna do that' when the time comes; are about to face ugly reality. In January, 'the time' will come. In January the entire world will find out if you're real or just a bigmouth coward," he said. One reader who responded on his comment sheet asked Turner, "who's gonna pick up the fruits and clean your toilet?" To which Turner said, "Machinery can pick the crops; I clean my own toilet." Turner also declined a suggestion to post a list of addresses and provide maps "so people can protest at their homes" by saying, "Once I publish such a list, they would undoubtedly feel the need and take steps to secure themselves. If we forewarn them by publicly publishing a list, we lose the element of surprise." One other reader said, "I'm sitting here now with my 30.06 stripped down. Can do this in the dark. Don't want any grains of sand in the mechanism," he wrote. Still another said he'd forwarded Turner's comments to the FBI, to which Turner responded with a laugh. "You called the FBI about me? BIG DEAL! One can only illegally 'incite' violence when what is said is uttered in a context which lends itself to IMMINENT lawlessness. I will not be arrested because I have thus far committed no crime. Just because you don't understand the subtle delineations of the law does not mean I have broken the law. The FBI has been receiving reports about me from morons like you for six years. I'm still here. Your posting did, however, give me a chuckle!" But his posting also continued further into his plans, and his expectations for the consequences. "The pro-white movement has a habit of making martyrs of folks who take action. They hold rallies for them. They put up web sites about them. Just so we're clear, the only people authorized to do that for me after I become a martyr (alive or dead) are those who stand with me when the fight takes place. Because if you are, TODAY, 'pro-white' and you fail to stand with me in confronting our renegade government, then I say you are a coward and I don't want my name being uttered by cowards," he wrote. He said the "amnesty" would mark "the actual end of our nation." "That will erase us as a nation and I will not permit it. What about you?" he asked. One reader was quick with his response: "Where can we get some polonium-210?" he asked. Turner also carries on his website a disclaimer noting that he is considered a "public figure" which means a lot of places carry of lot of comments about him over which he has no control, including some with "virulent" perspectives. "This being the case, Mr. Turner feels it necessary to – and hereby does – DISCLAIM AND REPUDIATE any affiliation with or support of such groups." Even he didn't take his earlier statements that he may have to assassinate about half of the members of Congress and three members of the U.S. Supreme court seriously. He told WND he never bothered to make a hit list because he never planned to kill anyone. Turner also told WND earlier he'd been investigated by the Secret Service, the U.S. Marshals Service and others in the past, without results. He said that's because he's very careful to "use words such as 'may have' (or) 'might' which are opinions/observations rather than threats." "I am totally familiar with three specific U.S. Supreme Court decisions and those parameters govern what I say and write," he said. He said his comments are "uttered in a context which does not lend itself to imminent lawlessness," do not constitute a "true threat," and could be considered "political hyperbole."
Posted: December 6, 2006
1:00 a.m. Eastern
Hal Turner
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#162. To: Redheadedstranger (#160)
you do on libertysflame and freedomunderground, and those are the only two that have not booted you off.
"And this is the end of my brilliant career on the 4um..." -- ponchy 12/20/2006
Now you see, this is why people think I'm wrecking the curve on this place. People are using profanity almost as much as I do. All kidding aside, RHS does make a couple salient points. What interests me, is how he knows so much about Jethro Tull.
On other forums, I don't set myself up as any better than anyone else.
#163. To: Nostalgia (#31)
 | This country's priorities are all fucked up. |
#164. To: TommyTheMadArtist (#163)
Well, Tommy, there are times when only a good f*ck will do. ;-)
#165. To: Jethro Tull (#161)
Why is ponchy so quiet? Is he too hung over to type?
... and I like cyber f**k the males. -- Ponchy
#166. To: Redheadedstranger, morgana le fay, jethro tull, all, willyone (#160) (Edited)
An oxymoron if I've ever seen one. The only thing worse than a hypocrite egoist, is a hypocrite egoist that's an inebriated asshole puking over the porcelain god.. You have grown tiresome. You and willy are both gone. Bye now. I come here to intrude on the 4um world and laugh at the lot of you....I'm not setting myself up as a superior person...
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In a CorporoFascist capitalist society, there is no money in peace, freedom, or a healthy population, and therefore, no incentive to achieve these - - IndieTX In a time of universal deceit, telling the truth is a revolutionary act - - George Orwell
#167. To: Redheadedstranger (#160)
You ain't no walking Menza test chum, just an ego that fits your body as well as a fat woman's foot fits a size five shoe. As for living in " a cyber-fantasy life/world," you probably haven't noticed because you are not local and living in your own bubble that I am involved in real life political efficacy and this posting is just a minor extension of what I do. I won't bore you with why learning to communicate and articulate and work through aspects of political stands and discussions on the issues is valuable practice to make other political chores I do in real time easier, because you only care about tending your own delusions of grandeur here anyway. But back to the premise of the above quote from you; the fact of the matter is that if I were dumb. it would bother me and threaten my ego if I at some level suspected it to be true. But I live an existence very aware of my smarts, talents and even my short comings. Thus your take on me only serves to show how you can try to 'cyber- fuck' me with motive laden poison, but whether I am indeed dumb or smart plays no role in the mission intended for your rhetorical poison. Sorry, I just not impressed by you. And I am hip to your trip. So thanks in other words for preforming yet another amusing jester dance. You do juggle and sing nicely indeed. I am well entertained, where do I send the tip? ;-)
"You found my statement about your inferior mentality, insulting?"
#168. To: Redheadedstranger (#160)
Fer maximum enjoyment, first select a horse of convenient size.
THERE'S NOT ONE DOUBT IN MY MIND THAT WE WILL FAIL - GW Bush
#169. To: Jethro Tull (#161)
Which is why I had to re-register, right JT?
But, but, but....you asked for reinstatement.
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#170. To: TommyTheMadArtist (#163)
Me and JT go way back. I may have sold him some diesel once, back before the Y2k...
What interests me, is how he knows so much about Jethro Tull.
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#171. To: Ferret Mike (#167)
How would you know? You don't like me, Ferret, and you have the right. But your bias clouds your judgement, because in every serious debate we've had over the years, I"ve pw4n your ass. "I am involved in real life political efficacy" Living a fantasy. "I won't bore you with why learning to communicate and articulate and work through aspects of political stands and discussions on the issues is valuable practice to make other political chores I do in real time easier" Well, since you deal with retarded treehuggers, I will admit that this is a good place to perfect your technique in handling your subhuman followers. "the fact of the matter is that if I were dumb. it would bother me and threaten my ego if I at some level suspected it to be true." Clever psychological strawman. "But I live an existence very aware of my smarts, talents and even my short comings" Which is why you like to post here. It makes you feel superior, subconsciously
You ain't no walking Menza test chum
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#172. To: Redheadedstranger (#169)
Mandingo is available.
#173. To: Redheadedstranger (#171)
When the going gets weird the weird turn pro. - Hunter S Thompson
#174. To: Jethro Tull, IndieTX (#172)
When your first kid, marries a spic or negro, you can show that at the wedding. Your kids aren't all married, are they? And bwt, tell Indie I love him like a brother; he's a good poster. The bozo done put me on bozo, though...
Mandingo is available.
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#175. To: Redheadedstranger (#171)
Actually I chose not to waste the enery to do more then find you somewhat annoying and ignorant as the day is long. But that's just me. Others can chose to waste time on you or not at their own desgression. I am fine withy you staying or chosing to leave, I just don't care. Amusing post, and you are the one obsessed with the notion of inferiority or superiority, which points to where your insecurities lie and say allot as to why they exist. You could well be a self loathing gay Negro man too judging by what other wedge issues obsess you, but hey, what ever fires your rocket, homey.
"How would you know? You don't like me, Ferret, and you have the right. But your bias clouds your judgement, because in every serious debate we've had over the years, I"ve pw4n your ass."
#176. To: Jethro Tull (#172)
What do you think? Is this Pounchie a self loathing gay Negro man, or a man hating Negro woman whose asian husband beats her compelling her to find passive- aggressive avenues of scapegoating others to compensate for her inadequacies? You know he/she has to be one or the other.
#177. To: Ferret Mike (#176)
Ponchie unfortunately is developing a case of the Buckeroo's. He has gone from someone who had a sense of humor, to a dour grump. He isn't aging well.
#178. To: Ferret Mike (#175)
That's right, Ferret. Stick both fingers in your ears, and go to humming. And don't get too serious because I will come down on you like a ton of rectangular building things if I hear any serious b.s. from you.
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#179. To: Jethro Tull (#177)
Said the potbellied, balding irish enunch
He isn't aging well.
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#180. To: Redheadedstranger (#179) (Edited)
Is a hangover driving the bad mood or did you run out of Prozac?
... and I like cyber f**k the males. -- Ponchy
#181. To: Redheadedstranger (#179)
A word to the wise. If you in any way damage my online persona, the law firm of Sheeny, Sheeny & Cohen will chew your butt off.
#182. To: Jethro Tull (#181)
Your brothers in law?
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#183. To: Redheadedstranger (#182)
Where's Tubby aka TLBSHOW? He still owes me money so I hope he's still alive.
#184. To: Redheadedstranger (#178)
You mean like if I do serious ad hominem attacks like point out your Mama shit an asshole into the world? or I bet nobody got the dog licence on your daddy's tag after he screwed your multi-species little self into the world? Screw you. Unless you are eyeball to eyeball with me, any nastiness online mean nothing.
"That's right, Ferret. Stick both fingers in your ears, and go to humming. And don't get too serious because I will come down on you like a ton of rectangular building things if I hear any serious b.s. from you."
#185. To: Ferret Mike (#184)
No, I mean like any pontifications on anything but trees.
You mean like if I do serious ad hominem attacks like point out your Mama shit an asshole into the world?
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#186. To: Fred Mertz (#183)
Sorry you got burned. Too bad he's not living in Lane County Oregon, I would derive a great deal of pleasure turning him upside down and shaking the contents out of his pockets to send you payments for you. Or by having a beautiful lady friend tease and bait him into a drunken stupor then having a friend tattoo, "I paid for Anne Coulter's sex change operation" on his forehead to make him wish he'd of paid up. ;-D
"Where's Tubby aka TLBSHOW? He still owes me money so I hope he's still alive."
#187. To: Fred Mertz (#183)
You were in his area, recently and didn't stop by to visit? What kind of a pal are you?
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#188. To: Redheadedstranger (#185)
You mean like my pride at being a race mixer having had children with an African American woman and how I know the U.S. will be a much better place once genetic defusion has made us look more alike in this country and the world? ;-D
"No, I mean like any pontifications on anything but trees."
#189. To: Ferret Mike (#186)
Ah, we're in an aggressive mood, today, are we? Did that bucket of chainsaw oil thrown upon you extinguish your blunt?
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#190. To: Ferret Mike (#188)
Yes. That sort of thing, Dr. Ferret, noted geneticist and mud-lover.
You mean like my pride at being a race mixer having had children with an African American woman and how I know the U.S. will be a much better place once genetic defusion has made us look more alike in this country and the world? ;-
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#191. To: Ferret Mike (#188)
You mean like my pride at being a race mixer having had children with an African American woman and how I know the U.S. will be a much better place once genetic defusion has made us look more alike in this country and the world? ;-D Then we'll just hate short people or fat people or people who open their Christmas presents on Christmas Eve, not Christmas morning. It's an unfortunate part of the human condition, unless raised to be tolerant and open-minded.
The more corrupt the state, the more numerous the laws. – Tacitus
#192. To: robin (#191)
Your life wouldn't be worth living if you didn't have bush and the jews to hate. Take it from me...
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#193. To: Redheadedstranger (#189)
I own two nice, very expensive Husqvarna chainsaws, chaps, scores of chains and several bars and have used them with my OSHA approved climbing gear to do tree service work, to cut fire line and do pre-commercial thinning when I did that years ago. Chainsaws are like guns, it isn't the tool that is the problem, it's more in how they can be mis-used. As far as blunt goes, I don't smoke many blunts or pipeloads anymore and don't much miss it, so if you want some of that, you need to find other sources for it, mine are iffy at best these days.
"Ah, we're in an aggressive mood, today, are we? Did that bucket of chainsaw oil thrown upon you extinguish your blunt?"
#194. To: Redheadedstranger (#190) (Edited)
You of course abide by the racist blush red in the face standard for deciding what part of the human species you don't loathe. Your racism and narrow mindedness shows quite graphically an ignorance indicative of a shallow range of mental attributes. Your short comings in this department is your problem, not mine. If it was ever in my face projecting itself on me, I assure you turning you into pretzel boy and removing it from my face would not be any problem I might add.
"That sort of thing, Dr. Ferret, noted geneticist and mud- lover."
#195. To: Redheadedstranger (#192)
Miscontrue what I've posted all you want, it just shines the light more clearly on what you are. I hate treason and murder, and will continue to point out the traitors and murderers regardless of their religion and race.
The more corrupt the state, the more numerous the laws. – Tacitus
#196. To: robin (#191)
Quite true. As a small boy I hated fat people and Negroes until I started learning, listening and reading. I realized I had assimulated the hatred from my Mother and left her to wallow in the filth of her bigotry a long time ago and I am glad I did. Too bad more people are not smart enough to challenge childhood indoctrination with facts and critical thinking. It they did, this world would be a much better place.
"It's an unfortunate part of the human condition, unless raised to be tolerant and open-minded."
#197. To: Ferret Mike (#194)
I'm mixed-race and I despise them all. "Your racism and narrow mindedness shows quite graphically an ignorance indicative of a shallow range of mental attributes. Your short comings in this department is your problem, not mine." Lets talk about science and statistics, Ferret, and why blacks and whiggers are more prone to violence and criminiality, shall we? "If it was ever in my face projecting itself on me, I assure you turning you into pretzel boy and removing it from my face would not be any problem too I might add." Snicker...have I ever threatended you with violence, warlock?
You of course abide by the racist blush red in the face standard for deciding what part of the human species you don't loathe.
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#198. To: robin (#195)
So it's okay to hate some things, as long as YOU define what they ARE, right?
I hate treason and murder
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#199. To: Ferret Mike (#196)
Your whole life, and all your neurosys are a reaction against your parents due to the traumatization you suffered as a child. You really need to overcome it all...realize that it's okay to hate people, and take a drink every couple of hours.
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#200. To: Redheadedstranger (#197)
Have you? What part of indicating that there is not a part of you in any form that is bothersome or a source of worry for me do you not understand? You can bark at the end of your chain all you want where ever and however you wish, and all you will ever be is a target rich environment politically and socially for me. One that is quite amusing too I might add. Your problems remain your problems, not mine anyway you look at it.
"have I ever threatended you with violence, warlock?"
#201. To: Ferret Mike (#200)
Ferret...stop responding. It's so easy. Bob Wallace put me on bozo the moment I posted to him.
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