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Title: How To Further The Neocon Mess In Iraq; Those Who Sold War On False Pretenses Want Escalation
Source: The Nation
URL Source: http://www.cbsnews.com:80/stories/2 ... 1/08/opinion/main2336887.shtml
Published: Jan 9, 2007
Author: Ari Berman
Post Date: 2007-01-09 13:01:39 by Brian S
Keywords: None
Views: 198
Comments: 10

Weekly Standard editor Bill Kristol walked into the American Enterprise Institute (AEI) yesterday with a big grin on his face, as if to say "they're listening to me again!"

Wolfowitz, Feith, Rumsfeld, Bolton and other architects of the war in Iraq may be gone, but the neoconservatives' stature inside the Bush Administration has hardly diminished. The same people that sold us the war, often under false pretenses, are now leading proponents of escalating the conflict by sending tens of thousands of additional troops.

An event at AEI yesteday brought together the intellectual progenitors of escalation: military historian Fred Kagan, retired General Jack Keane and Senators John McCain and Joe Lieberman. The focus was not on how to clean up the neocons mess, but on how to deepen it.

"The surge must be substantial and it must be sustained," McCain told a packed room. That means keeping an additional 20,000 to 35,000 troops in Iraq for 18 to 24 months. Under such a plan, 160,000 plus troops could be deployed well past 2008 at an untold cost.

Over 300 protestors convened by http://MoveOn.org gathered outside AEI to protest such a scenario. "John McCain, John McCain, escalation is insane!" they chanted. Around the same time, Democratic leaders Nancy Pelosi and Harry Reid sent a letter to President Bush expressing their opposition to any troop increase.

"After nearly four years of combat, tens of thousands of US casualties, and over $300 billion dollars, it is time to bring the war to a close," they wrote to Bush. "We, therefore, strongly encourage you to reject any plans that call for our getting our troops any deeper into Iraq."

But Lieberman, the self-described "Independent Democrat," was having none of that. "The battlefield is in Baghdad and Al-Anbar, not in Washington," Lieberman said. "We need to support the President as he goes forward."

Who needs to support the President? Only 12 percent of Americans want to escalate the war. Most now want the US to get out. Nothing they've heard from the neocons since the beginning of the war has turned out to be right.
"I believed the initial invasion was going to be easy," McCain admitted today, echoing statements he made before the war. "Most of us did. I believed we were going to be welcomed as liberators. We were."

Little wonder why McCain and his fellow neocons can't bear the thought of ending the war they helped start.

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#1. To: Brian S (#0)

They're destroying the Army and Marine Corps. I can't see recruiting improving until these madmen get us out of Iraq.

Fred Mertz  posted on  2007-01-09   13:11:24 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#2. To: Be very, very afraid (#0)

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=XsqPeqhKJ7Q&mode=related&search=

Jethro Tull  posted on  2007-01-09   13:39:14 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#3. To: Fred Mertz (#1)

I can't see recruiting improving until these madmen get us out of Iraq.

Read Paul Craig Roberts article where he compares the Bush policies to those of Hitler. Roberts thinks these guys are pushing for the final battle in Iraq and actually want the army destroyed. Robert's thinks the resulting anger and fear will allow the GOP to get the draft back in and take the war nuclear.

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...  posted on  2007-01-09   13:51:17 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#4. To: ... (#3)

I read that piece, however, I can't see how losing an Army will improve Bush's standing in any way. I believe the opposite will happen: Bush will be thrown out of office and hopefully be put in a slammer or at least a mental hospital.

Fred Mertz  posted on  2007-01-09   13:54:09 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#5. To: Jethro Tull, Brian S, Fred Mertz (#2)

The only way for the Neocons and now NeoLiberals in the Democrat party to get their way is for Israel and the CIA to create another False Flag like 9-11, but this would have to be even bigger. And it will have to hurt a lot of people the Democrat politicians care about (i.e. Blacks and Hispanics.) I am thinking of a dirty radiological bomb in a city with lots of people but little economic value to the elite. I also think it will happen on or before 9-11-2007. It has to be done and out of the way before the next round of Presidential primaries.

As for Pelosi voting against a surge, the appropriation for the current year was already passed. Bush has 500 billion dollars to play with. He will not need a supplemental appropriation until September. And the new federal fiscal year does not start until October 2007.

The Truth of 911 Shall Set You Free From The Lie

Horse  posted on  2007-01-09   14:03:24 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#6. To: Brian S (#0)

Lieberman, the self-described "Independent Democrat," was having none of that. "The battlefield is in Baghdad and Al-Anbar, not in Washington," Lieberman said. "We need to support the President as he goes forward

What a shill.

"First they ignore you. Then they ridicule you. Then they fight you. Then you win." --Mahatma K. Gandhi

angle  posted on  2007-01-09   14:03:55 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#7. To: Horse (#5)

...is for Israel and the CIA to create another False Flag like 9-11

I agree that a serious attack on our Fatherland would generate scores of conscripts for our foreign legions.

Fred Mertz  posted on  2007-01-09   14:08:21 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#8. To: Fred Mertz (#4)

I read that piece, however, I can't see how losing an Army will improve Bush's standing in any way.

I didn't mean to imply that Bush and his team were right about something in Iraq, just that Roberts thought that this might be one of their sleazy tactics.

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...  posted on  2007-01-09   14:09:49 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#9. To: Horse (#5)

I thought the House could defund anything, anytime it wanted. Was it the Church Committee in the 70s that defunded V/N?

Jethro Tull  posted on  2007-01-09   16:57:57 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#10. To: Jethro Tull (#9)

I doubt there is much she can do for money already appropriated. She knows that. The post the other day on Stenny Hoyer the House Majority leader focused on his attending a Jewish congressional caucus and his pledge to the Jerusalem Post that the Dems would help do in Iran for Israel.

The Truth of 911 Shall Set You Free From The Lie

Horse  posted on  2007-01-09   21:53:47 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


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