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Title: (My title) Chavez: Jesus the greatest socialist in history
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AP
URL Source: http://www.usatoday.com/news/world/ ... -chavez-venezuela_x.htm?csp=34
Published: Jan 10, 2007
Author: AP
Post Date: 2007-01-10 14:10:01 by Jethro Tull
Keywords: None
Views: 511
Comments: 32
Chavez promises a socialist Venezuela as he starts new 6-year term CARACAS, Venezuela (AP) — President Hugo Chavez echoed Fidel Castro's cry of "socialism or death" as he was sworn in for a new six-year term on Wednesday, promising to accelerate Venezuela's transformation into a socialist state. Chavez took the oath of office at the National Assembly after a sweeping re-election victory that has given him free reign to pursue more radical changes, including plans to nationalize power and telecommunications companies. His right hand raised, Chavez declared: "Fatherland, socialism or death — I swear it," invoking the Cuban leader's famous call to arms. Chavez also alluded to Jesus, saying: "I swear by Christ — the greatest socialist in history." -Snip
Poster Comment: Not too far fetched.
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#1. To: Jethro Tull (#0)
This is what comes from straying from the true faith, and being an uneducated moron in generally, JT. YOu fall for shysters like this Chavez. Jesus was a distributionist. Not a socialist.
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No, Marx was a distributionist. Jesus is an amalgamation.
So Jesus' father was the state? Who knew? Well, that ends the whole creation vs evolution debate: Government created the stars and the earth. Maybe Jesus, good socialist that he was, ordered himself crusified for being a anti-statist counter-revolutionary.
"The more I see of life, the less I fear death" - Me.
Jesus has become a "Rorschach test." His Name is used and His philosophy reinterpreted to fit the image of whatever political movement which is seeking to appropriate His image to get votes. It is interesting that Christ disavowed all political movements while on earth. But that's not what the politicos who use Christianity wish to hear.
False. How can you sit there and post such drivel, JT? "Jesus is an amalgamation." Of what? No, don't tell me.
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Admit it, genius, you have no idea what distributionism IS.
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I couldn't agree more. A recent debate here finally broke down with two Christians claiming the other was doomed to hell for their biblical interpretation. That spoke volumes to me.
Without the aid of Google, let me guess; Take the root of the word and develop some arcane political philosophy not another soul on the planet gives a dump about.
Look, you thickskulled ignoramus, the point is that you were all set to fall for this one until I pulled you back from the edge. Now, sneer at me all you like, but just remember, you were one step away from turning red.
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Thanks, I do...
I'm sure Pat Robertson will have another vision/spasm/fit and declare that Hugo must be assassinated by June 27th. The more corrupt the state, the more numerous the laws. – Tacitus
RE-Distributionism = Socialism. That's where you take goods, and resources from the individual, and then divide it up, and distribute it around the whole to each according to his needs.
#2. To: Redheadedstranger (#1)
#3. To: Jethro Tull (#0)
Jesus the greatest socialist in history
#4. To: Jethro Tull (#2)
#5. To: Jethro Tull (#2)
No, Marx was a distributionist.
#6. To: Jethro Tull (#2)
#7. To: Sam Houston (#4)
(Edited)
Jesus has become a "Rorschach test." His Name is used and His philosophy reinterpreted to fit the image of whatever political movement which is seeking to appropriate His image to get votes.
#8. To: Redheadedstranger (#6)
distributionism
#9. To: Jethro Tull (#8)
#10. To: Redheadedstranger (#9)
Now, sneer at me all you like,
#11. To: Jethro Tull, *Hugo Fan Club* (#0)
That europe and the UK are all socialist nations won't deter him.
#12. To: Redheadedstranger (#6)
 | This country's priorities are all fucked up. |
#13. To: Jethro Tull (#0)
Makes sense to me.
Nemo: Eat your pudding Mr. Land.
Ned Land: I ain't sure it's puddin'.(takes spoonful)
Ned Land: What is it?
Nemo: It's my own recipe. Sauté of unborn octopus.
#14. To: Jethro Tull (#10)
Boy, you'd look stupid if you were still in radio. But of course you aren't...
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#15. To: robin (#11)
Pat hasn't been the same since he began free lifting '68 Buicks.
#16. To: TommyTheMadArtist (#12)
Yes, but what I am talking about is the Distributionism of Belloc and Chesterton. "That's where you take goods, and resources from the individual, and then divide it up, and distribute it around the whole to each according to his needs." Who is "Me?" The state? If so, then yes, that is socialism.
RE-Distributionism = Socialism.
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#17. To: Jethro Tull (#15)
I draws the line at volkswagens myself.
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#18. To: Redheadedstranger (#16)
Me = Means, sorry. I know what Distributionism is. Apparently other people won't answer your question, so I thought I'd try to give them a hint as to what it wasn't. :)
| This country's priorities are all fucked up. |
#19. To: Redheadedstranger (#14)
In radio? I assume you mean broadcasting? No way....WTTM was sold to some wacky Christian-cult and RimJob fired me after the 3rd show. No NWO for him, thank- you. But no, I'm done. My "career" was doomed from the start. Too many human 'holes; too little time.
#20. To: Jethro Tull (#19)
Why are you such a pessimistic loser, JT? Mind you, you're one of the worst talkshow hosts I've ever heard. No hellfire and brimstone, kind of like Alan Stang in his last days.
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#21. To: Jethro Tull (#15)
Do tell me more, I missed this tale of religious fervor. Also, I never knew about your temporary gig as a radio host. JimRob?
Pat hasn't been the same since he began free lifting '68 Buicks.
The more corrupt the state, the more numerous the laws. – Tacitus
#22. To: TommyTheMadArtist (#12)
And some people need rather a lot. Makes for good ballast.
That's where you take goods, and resources from the individual, and then divide it up, and distribute it around the whole to each according to his needs.
Nemo: Eat your pudding Mr. Land.
Ned Land: I ain't sure it's puddin'.(takes spoonful)
Ned Land: What is it?
Nemo: It's my own recipe. Sauté of unborn octopus.
#23. To: robin (#21)
He was fired for his Brooklyn accent.
I never knew about your temporary gig as a radio host.
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#24. To: Redheadedstranger, Jethro Tull (#23)
An Irish brogue would have helped, I can listen to one for hours. Maybe this is in my future. ;P http://stroke.ahajournals.org/cgi/content/abstract/23/11/1655 (Note: Be careful what you listen to.)
The more corrupt the state, the more numerous the laws. – Tacitus
#25. To: Jethro Tull, Zipporah, christine, Diana, rowdee, robin, Ferret Mike (#7)
I grew up in The Bible Belt and heard that argument many times. In fact each individual church would claim that the folks in a different church down the lane weren't right with The Lord, and they too were going to go to Hayull. And the Pentocostal Holiness weren't sure which of the others were washed in the blood, but they were sure about themselves because they handled venomous snakes and drank strychnine. I always thought that Jeebus would tell the lot of them to pull their heads out of their asses, learn humility and care for the sick, injured, poor and downtrodden. As it was the churches I attended were fashion shows. The men wore nice suits and of course the wimmen were impeccably dressed. And, even though they said that everyone was welcome no matter how humble they didn't mean it, and if someone showed up in ill fitting hand me downs then the "good people" assumed that the Lord was punishing the less fortunate, perhaps because daddy was a drinker or mama was a fallen woman. Yep, you could always tell who was washed in the blood by how prosperous they appeared and how generous they were with the church. It's hard to believe that The Rev. Dr. Jerry Falwell will go on TV and state unequivocally that the word is clear and he has read it. And, it doesn't matter if we believe it. All that matters is that his congregation does. And then Sunday morning as they leave church they can say "Nice ass kicking, Reverend!"
I couldn't agree more. A recent debate here finally broke down with two Christians claiming the other was doomed to hell for their biblical interpretation. That spoke volumes to me.
"I believe in marriage. I've done it lots of times!"__puppy
#26. To: HOUNDDAWG, all (#25)
Amen 'Dawg. I can no longer deny my lying eyes. Religion and politics has mixed globally and ruined a pretty good thing we mortals have going on. Bush, Iraq, Israel and the Hagee's of this world have finally pushed me into reality. I don't believe mankind “fell from grace” and deserves to be tossed into a firey lake because two mythical people listened to a lying talking snake and ate some forbidden magic fruit from a magic tree. Nope, it's a divisive pile of poop used to splinter the few of us who would otherwise be staunch allies in these latter days of AmeriKa. So it is said; so it is written; so it is done.
#27. To: Redheadedstranger (#20) (Edited)
I'm proud to say you never heard me, but for a modest fee I will call you and explain the joy of a loving, man-woman relationship. I honestly believe this is cause of your inner rage. That and a wicked dose of microphallus.
#28. To: Jethro Tull (#27)
I have indeed.
I'm proud to say you never heard me,
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#29. To: robin (#21)
Pat R is a man of many talents. A legend in his own mind, as they say. I did a talk show with a dear friend more than 10 years ago in Bucks county, PA. Our issues were trade, illegals and the NWO. Our claim to fame was that we introduced a rock-ribbed Republican stronghold to our "None of the Above" political philosophy. We were short lived (2 years) thanks to the 1996 Telecommunication Act which was legislation designed to promote competition. Little did they explain that the competition would be bet. the largest 2 or 3 global communication networks. So, kaput, off the air we went and onto the net I came. The Robinson adventure was a mistake on his part. He thought I'd pimp for the Rs. Not.
http://www.cbn.com/communitypublic/legpress_explanation.aspx
#30. To: HOUNDDAWG (#25)
That's some good lawyerin'.
As it was the churches I attended were fashion shows. The men wore nice suits and of course the wimmen were impeccably dressed. And, even though they said that everyone was welcome no matter how humble they didn't mean it, and if someone showed up in ill fitting hand me downs then the "good people" assumed that the Lord was punishing the less fortunate, perhaps because daddy was a drinker or mama was a fallen woman.
It's not everyone who catches that quick change in quality in that particular portion of Disney's "The Three Little Pigs."
#31. To: Sam Houston (#4)
bump - thanks
It is interesting that Christ disavowed all political movements while on earth. But that's not what the politicos who use Christianity wish to hear.
"Victorious warriors win first and then go to war, while defeated warriors go to war first and then seek to win." Sun-tzu
#32. To: Jethro Tull, Zipporah, christine, Diana, rowdee, robin, ruthie (#26)
Jethro Tull However upsetting the term "amalgamation", it is indisputable that the hands of men have guided the scriptures, and that there were agendas. And, it isn't necessary to prove evil intent to discredit the word. Enlightened self interest is a good thing when drafting a constitution, but it gives the saints feet of clay when applied to the word of "G_d". If BushCo and the blue suited friends of Jesus get their way we're all going to be converted-to "environmentally friendly heat and light" when the fanatics detonate their "Apocalypse Soon" devices.
Amen 'Dawg. I can no longer deny my lying eyes. Religion and politics has mixed globally and ruined a pretty good thing we mortals have going on. Bush, Iraq, Israel and the Hagee's of this world have finally pushed me into reality. I don't believe mankind “fell from grace” and deserves to be tossed into a firey lake because two mythical people listened to a lying talking snake and ate some forbidden magic fruit from a magic tree. Nope, it's a divisive pile of poop used to splinter the few of us who would otherwise be staunch allies in these latter days of AmeriKa. So it is said; so it is written; so it is done.
"I believe in marriage. I've done it lots of times!"__puppy
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