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Title: Scientists find Extraterrestrial genes in Human DNA (the human genome project)
Source: The Canadian Nat'l Newspaper
URL Source: http://www.agoracosmopolitan.com/ho ... rontpage/2007/01/08/01288.html
Published: Jan 16, 2007
Author: by John Stokes
Post Date: 2007-01-16 08:03:03 by gengis gandhi
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Views: 221
Comments: 17

Scientists find Extraterrestrial genes in Human DNA

Do civilizations of advanced human beings exist scattered in the Galaxy?

by John Stokes

A group of researchers working at the Human Genome Project indicate that they made an astonishing scientific discovery: They believe so-called 97% non-coding sequences in human DNA is no less than genetic code of extraterrestrial life forms.

The non-coding sequences are common to all living organisms on Earth, from moulds to fish to humans. In human DNA, they constitute larger part of the total genome, says Prof. Sam Chang, the group leader. Non-coding sequences, originally known as "junk DNA", were discovered years ago, and their function remained a mystery. The overwhelming majority of Human DNA is “Off-world” in origin. The apparent “extraterrestrial junk genes” merely “enjoy the ride” with hard working active genes, passed from generation to generation.

After comprehensive analysis with the assistance of other scientists, computer programmers, mathematicians, and other learned scholars, Professor Chang had wondered if the apparently “junk Human DNA” was created by some kind of “extraterrestrial programmer”. The alien chunks within Human DNA, Professor Chang further observes, “have its own veins, arteries, and its own immune system that vigorously resists all our anti-cancer drugs.”

Professor Chang further stipulates that "Our hypothesis is that a higher extraterrestrial life form was engaged in creating new life and planting it on various planets. Earth is just one of them. Perhaps, after programming, our creators grow us the same way we grow bacteria in Petri dishes. We can’t know their motives - whether it was a scientific experiment, or a way of preparing new planets for colonization, or is it long time ongoing business of seedling life in the universe.”

Professor Chang further indicates that “If we think about it in our human terms, the apparent “extraterrestrial programmers” were most probably working on “one big code” consisting of several projects, and the projects should have produced various life forms for various planets. They have been also trying various solutions. They wrote “the big code“, executed it, did not like some function, changed them or added new one, executed again, made more improvements, tried again and again.”

Professor Chang’s team of researchers furthermore concludes that, “The apparent “extraterrestrial programmers” may have been ordered to cut all their idealistic plans for the future when they concentrated on the “Earth project” to meet the pressing deadline. Very likely in an apparent rush, the “extraterrestrial programmers” may have cut down drastically on big code and delivered basic program intended for Earth.“

Professor Chang is only one of many scientists and other researchers who have discovered extraterrestrial origins to Humanity. Human Genome Project Coordinators

Human Genome Project Coordinators find absolute proof of Extraterrestrial contact with 'Earth humans' via DNA evidence.

Professor Chang and his research colleagues show that apparent “extraterrestrial programming” gaps in DNA sequencing precipitated by a hypothesized rush to create human life on Earth presented humankind with illogical growth of mass of cells we know as cancer."

Professor Chang further indicates that “What we see in our DNA is a program consisting of two versions, a big code and basic code.” Mr. Chang then affirms that the “First fact is, the complete ‘program’ was positively not written on Earth; that is now a verified fact. The second fact is, that genes by themselves are not enough to explain evolution; there must be something more in ‘the game‘.”

“Soon or later”, Professor Chang says “we have to come to grips with the unbelievable notion that every life on Earth carries genetic code for his extraterrestrial cousin and that evolution is not what we think it is.”

Human Genome Project Discovery Implications associated with “Human-looking Extraterrestrials”

The implications of these scientific finds would reinforce claims by other scientists and observers of having contact with ‘off-world' human looking extraterrestrials.

The ‘off-world' human looking extraterrestrial have been claimed to have provided some of the genetic material for human evolution, and that many of these extraterrestrials have allowed some of their personnel to incarnate as ‘star seeds' on Earth in human families. These “star seeds“, “star children” or “star people” are described by Brad and Francie Steiger as individuals whose ‘souls' were formally incarnated on the worlds of other star systems and then traveled to Earth and decided to incarnate here in order to “boost” the spiritual evolutionary development of humanity. Most of humanity would consider this group of extraterrestrials to be ‘benevolent' as described by ‘contactees' such as George Adamski, Orfeo Angelucci, George Van Tassell, Howard Menger, Paul Villa, Billy Meier and Alex Collier who each explain the nature of their voluntary interactions with these human looking extraterrestrials. These “contactees” often provide physical evidence in the form of photographs, film and/or witnesses of their contacts with extraterrestrial races. The most extensively documented and researched contactee is Eduard ‘Billy' Meier who provided much physical evidence for investigators.

Representations concerning ‘Ancient astronauts’

Indeed, ‘ancient astronaut’ writers believe that a race of intelligent extraterrestrial beings visited and/or colonised Earth in the remote past, whereupon they upgraded the primitive hominid Homo erectus by means of genetic engineering to create the human race as we know it: Homo sapiens.

Evidence for this idea is found (a) in the improbability of Homo sapiens emerging so suddenly, according to the principles of orthodox Darwinism; and (b) in the myths of ancient civilisations which describe human-like gods coming down from the heavens and creating mankind ‘in their own image’.Homo sapiens is thus regarded as a hybrid being, incorporating a mix of terrestrial genes from Homo erectus and extraterrestrial genes from an ascribed “race of the gods“.

Prior to the modern age of space travel and genetics, this theory for the origins of humankind could not have been conceived. And even now, in the 21st century, there are many people who would regard it as science fiction. However, in the light of the problems with the orthodox theory of human evolution, the idea of a genetic intervention by an intelligent human-like species (who themselves evolved on another planet over a more credible time frame) does require to be taken seriously as a potential solution to the mystery.

The most famous exponents of the ancient astronaut intervention are the Swiss writer Erich von Daniken and the American writer Zecharia Sitchin. The latter, in particular, has argued the case in great detail.

Representation by academics from “Exopolitics” groups

Dr. Micheal E. Salla is one of the founders of an Exopolitics movement which seeks an open and informed dialogue on, and with, Extraterrestrials, toward the affirmation of “global democracy” and the quality-of-living of humankind as socially responsible beings in the Universe. Dr. Salla indicates that “There are an extensive number of extraterrestrial races known [by various research institutions and agencies] to be currently interacting with Earth and the human population.

Dr. Salla, is also the author of Exopolitics: Political Implications of the Extraterrestrial Presence (Dandelion Books, 2004). He has held full time academic appointments at the Australian National University, and American University, Washington DC. He has a Ph.D. in Government from the University of Queensland, Australia. During his professional academic career, he was best known for organizing a series of citizen diplomacy initiatives for the East Timor conflict funded by U.S. Institute of Peace and the Ford Foundation. He is also the Founder of the Exopolitics Institute ; and Chief Editor of the ‘Exopolitics Journal’ and Convener of the “Extraterrestrial Civilizations and World Peace Conference.”

In a 1998 interview, Clifford Stone, a retired U.S. army Sergeant who served in the U.S. Army for 22 years and allegedly participated in operations to retrieve crashed extraterrestrial ships and extraterrestrial biological entities (EBE’s), revealed there were a variety of extraterrestrial races known [by various institutions and agencies]”. Dr. Salla further elaborates that “The most compelling testimonies on the different extraterrestrial races comes from ‘whistleblowers’ such as Sergeant Stone; and also ‘contactees’ who have had direct physical contact with extraterrestrials and communicated with them.”

Dr. Salla further notes that Master Sergeant Bob Dean had a twenty seven year distinguished career in very senior areas of the military indicates that among the know extraterrestrials one group “looked so much like us they could sit next to you on a plane or in a restaurant and you'd never know the difference."

Apparently “Human extraterrestrial races can easily integrate with human society in the manner described by Dean and others where they can be indistinguishable from the rest of humanity.” Dr. Salla corroborates.

According to Alex Collier who claims to be a “contactee“, “a variety of extraterrestrial races have provided genetic material for the ‘human experiment‘. “ Alex Collier indicates that “Earth humans” are “a product of extraterrestrial genetic manipulation, and are possessors of a vast gene pool consisting of many different racial memory banks, also consisting of at least 22 different races.”

Alleged Human ET efforts to promote the unity of humanity through religious spirituality

Alex Collier further claims that constituents of “Human ETs” seek to “ensure that global humanity evolves in a responsible way without endangering both itself and the greater galactic community of which it is part. “ Exopolitics groups and independent contactees also indicate that constituents of “Human ETs” seek to “uplift human consciousness and to promote the unity of religion.”

Alex Colliers alleged contact with ETs suggest that fundamentalist messages in from Christianity to Judaism to Islam, and other institutionalized religions, as well as outright apparent ‘cult’ groups, have been specifically placed by “hostile elements” to manipulate and control humankind.

Jesus, who many groups allege was a “Human ET” sought to inspire the social consciousness of humankind toward unity, and not to create a “Christian religion”, with its sexually repressive as well as homophobic undertones, which also have been used for the execution of racism, and to legitimate atrocities like the ‘slave trade‘.

ETs who allegedly contacted Alex Collier, also further allegedly stipulate that Jesus did in fact live; and lived out the rest of his life in Massada; and that Jesus was only crucified through the religious doctrine, and myth-making associated with ‘the palms‘.

As far as the “saviour scenario” is concerned, for example, Alex Collier was allegedly told by ETs that it has been put into our belief systems to “disempower us.” The saviour scenario within the dogma of institutionalized religions legitimate the creation of an elite-driven oppressive power structure who appoint themselves as “judgers of morality“. These religious elites have historically used their self-appointed roles to execute a comprehensive system of social controls that complement their joint pursuit of greed-oriented self-aggrandizement with other elites from government to business enterprises.

The alleged efforts of socially progressive Human ETs to inspire the affirmation of the quality-of-living of ‘Earth Humans’ through spiritual and other “emissaries”, have been undermined by the efforts of “capitalists” to exploit such alleged initiatives in the pursuit of an oppressive agenda of greed and fascistic power.

Constituents of Human ETs allegedly seek to “help humanity find freedom from oppressive structures through education and consciousness raising.”

Allegations of “Human ET” encounters on Earth

In Dr. Salla’s article “Extraterrestrials Among Us” published in October 2006, he alleges that, “There is startling evidence from a number of independent sources that ‘human looking’ extraterrestrial visitors have integrated with and lived in major population centres up until recently, and this is known by a select number of institutions.

Aside from whistleblower testimonies, like Sergeant Major Robert Dean, a number of private individuals claim to have encountered extraterrestrials posing as ordinary citizens in major cities around the planet.

George Adamski was the first to write about extraterrestrials secretly living among the human population. In his second non-fiction book describing his extraterrestrial contact experiences, “Inside the Flying Saucers“, Adamski discussed how human looking extraterrestrials had established a presence among the human population. “They apparently looked so much like us”, Dr. Salla notes “that they could get jobs, lived in neighbourhoods, drove cars, and could blend in easily with the human population.”

Dr. Salla further notes that “Adamski wrote about how they contacted him to set up meetings that led to his famous flights aboard extraterrestrial vehicles.” But as Dr. Salla explains “While controversy over Adamski’s contact experiences and his credibility continues, Adamski’s UFO sightings and contacts with extraterrestrials were supported by an impressive collection of witnesses, photographs and films that a number of independent investigators concluded were not hoaxes.”

Dr. Salla additionally stipulates that “Adamski’s testimony offers important insights into how extraterrestrials may be living incognito among the human population. After discussing the Adamski case and the strongest evidence supporting it, Dr. Salla in that article further discusses other contactees similarly claiming to have encountered extraterrestrials acting like ordinary citizens. Finally, Dr. Salla in “Extraterrestrials Among Us” examines the official testimony of a number of whistleblowers concerning knowledge that extraterrestrials live among ordinary Earth-bound individuals.

Contact Testimonies of ‘Extraterrestrials Among Us’

Adamski’s famous “Desert Center” meeting with an extraterrestrial emerging from a ‘scout ship’ on November 20, 1952 was apparently seen by six witnesses who signed affidavits confirming Adamski’s version of events in his subsequent book, The Flying Saucers have Landed (1953). In fact, four of the witnesses immediately reported what had happened to a nearby newspaper, the Phoenix Gazette,that published a story on November 24 featuring photos and sketches. The Desert Center encounter was among those of Adamski’s claims regarding extraterrestrial contact that, according to UFO researcher Timothy Good, were “accurately reported,” and “sensible and verifiable”, as footnotes by Dr. Salla. Given the clear supporting evidence supporting Adamski’s first meeting with an extraterrestrial traveling in a scout craft, it is worth examining closely his alleged subsequent meetings with extraterrestrials living on Earth.

In the first chapter of Inside the Flying Saucers, Dr. Salla re-visits Adamski’s testimony of his meeting with two extraterrestrials while he was sitting in the lobby of a Los Angeles Hotel on February 18, 1953.

“I looked at my wrist watch and saw that it said ten-thirty. The lateness of the hour, with still nothing of extraordinary significance having taken place, sent a wave of disappointment through me. And just at this moment of depression, two men approached, one of whom addressed me by name. Both were complete strangers, but there was no hesitancy in their manner as they came forward, and nothing in their appearance to indicate that they were other than average young businessmen… I noted that both men were well proportioned. One was slightly over six feet and looked to be in his early thirties. His complexion was ruddy, his eyes dark brown, with the kind of sparkle that suggests great enjoyment of life. His gaze was extraordinarily penetrating. His black hair waved and was cut according to our style. He wore a dark brown business suit but no hat. The shorter man looked younger and I judged his height to be about five feet, nine inches. He had a round boyish face, a fair complexion and eyes of grayish blue. His hair, also wavy and worn in our style, was sandy in color. He was dressed in a gray suit and was also hatless. He smiled as he addressed me by name. As I acknowledged the greeting, the speaker extended his hand and when it touched mine a great joy filled me. The signal was the same as had been given by the man I had met on the desert on that memorable November 20, 1952. (Described in the book Flying Saucers Have Landed).”

Significant in Adamski’s description is how the two extraterrestrials could pass off as businessmen. Aside from a penetrating stare, nothing struck him as unusual in their appearance. Adamski goes on to explain how he went with them in their car to travel to a remote desert location:

“Together we left the lobby, I walking between them. About a block north of the hotel, they turned into a parking lot where they had a car waiting. They had not spoken during this short time, yet inwardly I knew that these men were true friends. I felt no urge to ask where they proposed to take me, nor did it seem odd that they had volunteered no information. An attendant brought the car around, and the younger man slid into the driver’s seat, motioning me to get in beside him. Our other companion also sat with us on the front seat. The car was a four-door black Pontiac sedan. The man who had taken the wheel seemed to know exactly where he was going and drove skillfully. I am not familiar with all the new highways leading out of Los Angeles, so I had no idea in which direction we were headed. We rode in silence and I remained entirely content to wait for my companions to identify themselves and explain the reason for our meeting.”

“What’s significant here is that the two extraterrestrials possessed a car and knew how to navigate on the newly completed Los Angeles highway system. This is no mean feat and suggests that the extraterrestrials had taken the time to learn the road traffic rules and how to navigate through Los Angeles.”

Dr. Salla indicates in “Extraterrestrials Among Us”, that Adamski further reveals:

“Lights and dwellings thinned as we left the outskirts of the city. The taller man spoke for the first time… His voice was soft and pleasant and his English perfect. I had noticed that the younger man also spoke softly, although his voice was pitched higher. I found myself wondering how and where they had learned to speak our language so well.”

“…We are what you on Earth might call ‘Contact men.’ We live and work here, because, as you know, it is necessary on Earth to earn money with which to buy clothing, food, and the many things that people must have. We have lived on your planet now for several years. At first we did have a slight accent. But that has been overcome and, as you can see, we are unrecognized as other than Earth men. “At our work and in our leisure time we mingle with people here on Earth, never betraying the secret that we are inhabitants of other worlds. That would be dangerous, as you well know. We understand you people better than most of you know yourselves and can plainly see the reasons for many of the unhappy conditions that surround you.”

Dr. Salla indicates also that, “This passage [previous] is significant since it describes how the extraterrestrials have spent years living on Earth, learning the language, getting jobs and mixing with the human population. Furthermore, it appears as though extraterrestrials living among the human population may work in pairs, a kind of buddy system that would make sense in terms of ensuring safety and communications with the home world if an emergency ever occurred. If Adamski is accurate in his recollections and the extraterrestrials are telling the truth, then it would appear that there could be a significant number of extraterrestrials who are living incognito among the normal population in many if not most major cities on the planet. Upon examining other contactee cases and the testimonies of whistleblowers, it does appear as though this is indeed the case.”

Exopolitics groups furthermore provide additional representation that Adamski was not the only one of the contactees making representation that extraterrestrials were blending in with the human population. Howard Menger, for example. also claimed to have been contacted by extraterrestrials posing as ordinary human citizens. In one case, the extraterrestrial was posing as a real estate salesperson and asked Menger to accompany him in one of the extraterrestrial’s vehicle.

In addition to seeking to learn about human values and civilization, it appears that “Human ET” visitors were conducting a low key education effort to promote awareness of their presence to a limited number of individual ‘contactees’.

These “Human extraterrestrial visitors” have been represented has often having as very attractive physical characteristics, with “Human extraterrestrial females” being described as among the most beautiful women that male observers have witnessed.

The “Human extraterrestrials visitors” furthermore have been represented as going to great trouble in learning the indigenous language of the culture they are immersed in, learning how to drive and navigate on highways systems, and taking innocuous jobs over several years.

Extraterrestrials living among us appear to be operating in a manner similar to a “celestial peace corps” where they try to blend in. They presumably wish to learn about Earth culture and behaviour; and to, perhaps, assist in passing on information to selected individuals.

Representation on Earth Humans relative to “non-Earthbound” humans:

Advanced Human ETs as viewing Earth Humans as barbarians and savages which are a threat to themselves

Alex Collier alleges that ETs revealed to his that there are over 135 other billion human beings in the 8 galaxies closest to ours.

Alex Collier alleges that “The first time I walked on to one of their ships [Human ETs] , a bunch of their children started to run away from me. They knew that I was from Earth.”

“We have a very bad reputation,” Alex Collier indicates, “because we are the only human race in the galaxy that kills itself, that turns on itself. We are the only race [human] that allows itself to live in poverty. We are the only ones who allow members of our race to starve. We are the only ones that allow members of the race to be homeless. We are the only race that would sell itself into slavery. I don’t like the reflection they give me of us. It’s not that they are judging. They just don’t understand why we do it. If anyone’s got an answer for it, I’m open. Yes, we’ve been manipulated by belief systems, but why do we believe these belief systems?”

According to testimony by Alex Collier in associated with alleged ET contacts, Earth Humans “are the only race of human beings which oppresses and kills itself.”

If Human ETs do exist, as scholarly and other representation suggests, the saving of Humanity from its current apparent course of self-destruction, including on-going catastrophic Global Warming, may very well vitally rely on human governance systems placing its greed-driven bigotries aside, toward a constructive dialogue.


Poster Comment:

Roundup ready humans! interestingly, one of the first milestones that is passed in terms of knowledge our species holds was genetic engineering, with Mendel. seems to be a natural course of development, making stuff more suitable for ones own purposes...leaner hogs, bug resistant corn, and of course, the stuff the off budget boys like to play with in terms of building their 'supersoldier', though nietzche's ubermensch had nothing to do with the frankenstein wet dreams of these spiritual deliquents.

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#1. To: gengis gandhi (#0)

This is ridiculous. There is no such thing as "junk DNA." It's a name they gave to DNA because they didn't know the purpose of it. There is no evidence at all that it is from aliens. To know that, we'd have to have the DNA of aliens.

The author is a loon if he really believes what he is writing.

"We become what we behold. We shape our tools and thereafter our tools shape us." -- Marshall McLuhan, after Alexander Pope and William Blake.

YertleTurtle  posted on  2007-01-16   8:12:49 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#2. To: YertleTurtle (#1)

it is always refreshing to find someone who, having mastered all aspects of their personal and professional lives, has now gone on to unravel the mysteries of creation and the universe.

why, without folks like you and pat robertson, we'd scarcely know what to think.

as i've said, people such as yourself aren't interested in the truth, you're interested in belief system maintenance...your concern lies not in finding the truth, but in making sure others agree with your version of reality.

but, should i tend to wager on such a thing, i would suspect the odds of heavily credentialed, academically proficient and employed genetic specialists being correct far outweigh the odds of societally conditioned, matrix tending drone such as yourself.

and remember gang, its only true if we agree with it.

of course, the same mindset determined that the flat earth was a fact for hundreds of years....that man could never fly in anything heavier than air, that space travel was impossible, etc.

now, to feel better, maybe go put on some leeches and talk to your belief system overseer, whatever the denomination.....since its all counterfeit, the denominations all buy the same thing.

gengis gandhi  posted on  2007-01-16   8:22:38 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#3. To: YertleTurtle (#1)

Yeah, there are some huge inferential leaps here. In fact this stuff is all patent nonsense.

The "benevolent being" hypothesis does fill a huge spiritual vacuum that exists in our secular consciousness though, and you can make a little dough if you can write on and on about this stuff as if you knew what your were talking about.

THERE'S NOT ONE DOUBT IN MY MIND THAT WE WILL FAIL - GW Bush

randge  posted on  2007-01-16   8:27:57 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#4. To: YertleTurtle (#1)

This is ridiculous. There is no such thing as "junk DNA."

Look at the source of this article....

"The desire to rule is the mother of heresies." -- St. John Chrysostom

Destro  posted on  2007-01-16   9:39:59 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#5. To: randge (#3)

Perhaps, after programming, our creators grow us the same way we grow bacteria in Petri dishes. We can’t know their motives - whether it was a scientific experiment, or a way of preparing new planets for colonization, or is it long time ongoing business of seedling life in the universe.”

BWAHAHA!! Na, the aliens just made sure the planets were prepopulated with lots of "two-legged cattle" to EAT when they come back to settle for good! LOL!!

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IndieTX  posted on  2007-01-16   9:56:46 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#6. To: Destro (#4)

What can you tell us about the source of the article? I don't think I've ever heard of it.

Katrina was America's Chernobyl.

aristeides  posted on  2007-01-16   9:59:30 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#7. To: gengis gandhi (#0)

extraterrestrials were blending in with the human population.

You is da extraturtial dummy! Da goyim is so stupid. Shalom

I worship Israel. Kill all Arabs and let Allah sort 'em out. We are the chosen ones. Shalom.

BlackSands  posted on  2007-01-16   10:38:33 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#8. To: BlackSands (#7)

when I lived in vegas over 15 years ago that guy used to work out at a club I went to. He was buff. the photo you have is from his skinny days previous.

Galatians 3:29 And if ye [be] Christ's, then are ye Abraham's seed, and heirs according to the promise.

Red Jones  posted on  2007-01-16   10:45:07 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#9. To: YertleTurtle (#1)

I'm skeptical like you yertle.

How can a researcher tell if someof the DNA is 'extraterrestrial'. Maybe I'm dumb.

but I would say that 'great is the mystery' and we really don't know exactly.

Galatians 3:29 And if ye [be] Christ's, then are ye Abraham's seed, and heirs according to the promise.

Red Jones  posted on  2007-01-16   10:46:20 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#10. To: aristeides (#6)

What can you tell us about the source of the article? I don't think I've ever heard of it.

BINGO!!!

"The desire to rule is the mother of heresies." -- St. John Chrysostom

Destro  posted on  2007-01-16   10:53:39 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#11. To: Destro (#10)

You don't believe anything you see reported in a source you've never heard of? Isn't that closed-minded?

Katrina was America's Chernobyl.

aristeides  posted on  2007-01-16   11:00:56 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#12. To: aristeides (#11)

You don't believe anything you see reported in a source you've never heard of? Isn't that closed-minded?

If it is in regards to DNA unless it is in a peer reviewed journal for such scholars the info is crap for the masses.

"The desire to rule is the mother of heresies." -- St. John Chrysostom

Destro  posted on  2007-01-16   16:37:27 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#13. To: Destro (#10)

this is the most amusing stuff.

here you have self proclaimed anti establishment types, who never trust the media, and recognize it as a tool of control for the elite.

now, when something comes along that doesn't fit the belief systems they've adopted from sources they admit to be false and having an agenda, the claim they use is that it can't be valid because of the fact that it wasn't printed in a mainstream journal, previously identified as having an agenda, serving as a mouthpiece of the elite.

now that, my friends, is bedrock insanity.

funny. when bubba got caught playing tonsil hockey with honeyhips, the very same argument was put forth: yeah, but did you check the source?

yeah, kinda like jason blair and the NYTimes, right?

'never in doubt, often wrong'

governments, scientists, priests....they're all the same to the prole who long ago traded in his criticial thought for the false security having someone else tell you what to think provides.

in other words, having been proven that these types have lied to us, i wouldn't believe anything else unless its coming from them....after all, they have their reputation to uphold.

the philisophical contradictions are breathtaking.

hey, if it ain't on oprah or katy couric, pal, it ain't true.

the line between simply being a moron and being a dangerous liability to freedom is a thin one....just ask your mom....

gengis gandhi  posted on  2007-01-17   6:24:23 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#14. To: gengis gandhi (#2)

you're interested in belief system maintenance

like that term

"First they ignore you. Then they ridicule you. Then they fight you. Then you win." --Mahatma K. Gandhi

angle  posted on  2007-01-17   8:04:05 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#15. To: gengis gandhi (#13) (Edited)

now, when something comes along that doesn't fit the belief systems they've adopted

I'm an open-minded person, but I have short patience with claims that aren't backed up with sound evidence. I have even less with claims that are not even claims.

"After comprehensive analysis with the assistance of other scientists, computer programmers, mathematicians, and other learned scholars, Professor Chang had wondered if the apparently “junk Human DNA” was created by some kind of “extraterrestrial programmer”. The alien chunks within Human DNA, Professor Chang further observes, “have its own veins, arteries, and its own immune system that vigorously resists all our anti-cancer drugs."

IOW, after consultation with unnamed sundry experts, Chang "wonders" if junk Human DNA was created by an extraterrestrial programmer. That is not a conclusion, it's barely an inference. It's an allusion.

Next, he days that these chunks of DNA, have their own veins, arteries, and immune systems. I'm not an expert on DNA sequencing, but from what I've read about DNA encoding, we can make certain connections about the phenotypes that might result from specific seqeuences, but only because we see them realized in creatures we know that already possess them. I don't think that we are yet at the stage where we can say that such an such a sequence will result in a three- hambered heart, or a four-chambered stomach - let alone or that such organs will "vigorously resist all our anti-cancer drugs."

Good science writing for a general audience makes the links between advances in different branches of disciplines clear. If there are stunning conclusions like "most of our DNA is from out-of-this-world" it should strive to make such conclusions reasonable. This article doesn't do this for me. Such an article inadvertently or intentionally detracts from the credibility of what we see on the internet, where you can say anything.

That's the boon - and the bane - of this medium.

THERE'S NOT ONE DOUBT IN MY MIND THAT WE WILL FAIL - GW Bush

randge  posted on  2007-01-17   8:32:47 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#16. To: randge, gengis gandhi (#15)

now, when something comes along that doesn't fit the belief systems they've adopted from sources they admit to be false and having an agenda, the claim they use is that it can't be valid because of the fact that it wasn't printed in a mainstream journal, previously identified as having an agenda, serving as a mouthpiece of the elite.

Sorry, I may be a right winger per say but I am not of the kooky right wing type that thinks the UN is invading Kansas with black helicopters.

Science peer reviewed works are not like an article for the NY Times. There is no alternate science press. If this was not crap it would be published as a peer reviewed article in say the American Journal of Science or the Lancet.

"The desire to rule is the mother of heresies." -- St. John Chrysostom

Destro  posted on  2007-01-17   15:27:02 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#17. To: gengis gandhi (#0)

Mr. Chang then affirms that the “First fact is, the complete ‘program’ was positively not written on Earth; that is now a verified fact.

Ummmm... that's a MIGHTY big claim. Who else has verified this "fact"? Can anyone cite multiple references from other researchers supporting this claim? Remember, big claims demand big proof. I'd sure like to see at least three or more independant peer-reviewed studies that support this big claim.

Gold and silver are real money, paper is but a promise.

Elliott Jackalope  posted on  2007-01-17   15:45:33 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


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