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Title: oaths and bindings
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Published: Jan 18, 2007
Author: Brother Gregory
Post Date: 2007-01-18 10:43:02 by richard9151
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Comments: 11

Matthew 5 verses 33 to 37 should create a lot more controversy in the modern church than they do.

Many Churches have no policy or doctrine on taking oaths or swearing, yet this statement was clearly a directive from Christ and one of the few times he gave particular instructions:

Again, ye have heard that it hath been said by them of old time, Thou shalt not forswear thyself, but shalt perform unto the Lord thine oaths: The word Oath is horkos which is from horion which has to do with boundaries which is "from a derivative of an apparently primary horos (a bound or limit)"

The word foreswear is from epiorkeo, to swear falsely, from epiorkos which is a perjured person.

In verse 34, "But I say unto you, Swear not at all; neither by heaven; for it is God's throne:"

We see the word swear but from a completely different word. It is translated from omnuo, a prolonged form of a primary but obsolete omo. This obsolete form is found within many other words such as omoiazo, agree; omothumadon, with one accord; omou, together; or omophron, of one mind;

There is little doubt that Jesus is talking about swearing an oath before men but from the point of view that the oath is an agreement that sets the boundaries of our lives. He goes on to clarify his doctrine with verse 35 through 37, "Nor by the earth; for it is his footstool: neither by Jerusalem; for it is the city of the great King. Neither shalt thou swear by thy head, because thou canst not make one hair white or black. But let your communication be, Yea, yea; Nay, nay: for whatsoever is more than these cometh of evil."

If Christ came to set men free so that they may be free souls under the God of heaven and earth then to take an oath or bind ourselves by agreement so that we no longer could make free choices would be going against the precepts of what Jesus came to do.

We know the kingdom operates under the perfect law of liberty and that we are to have no other gods before us, and that there are gods many. Is Jesus simply explaining that by our oaths and agreements we restrict the exercise of our God given conscience by giving the right to choose for us to other men.

These other men became the lords of our choices, our conscience and they have what the Greeks called exousia or the right to choose for us. If Christ came to set the captive free he came to set men at liberty. There are few things that limit a man's liberty than the boundaries established by taking oaths.

God wants us to remain under the higher liberty of His word which is written upon our hearts and mind by His Holy Spirit if we will come into agreement with Him.

See ROMANS 13 verse 1 to understand exousia

http://www.hisholyc http://hurch.net/ sermon/Romans13. html

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#1. To: richard9151 (#0)

Why don't Christians worry about feeding the poor and helping people without healthcare in American rather than worrying about swearing oaths and so on?

Destro  posted on  2007-01-18   11:05:06 ET  Reply   Untrace   Trace   Private Reply  


#2. To: Destro (#1)

Why don't Christians worry about feeding the poor and helping people without healthcare in American

Your statement is so....... wow. Actually, Christians do help the poor; the problem is, you think of the religious right as Christian, and they are not. I doubt very much that you know a single Christian; just because someone says that is what they are, don´t make it so.

As to health care.... you have got to be kidding. No Christian that I know has, or wishes for, healthcare. They are well aware that this is their responsibility, and they certainly will never receive such with so-called insurance, which is, by the way, an international contract under international law; i.e., the law merchant.

And, we are not worrying about oaths. You are free to do as you wish, and if you wish to bind yourself with oaths, so be it. What this post is about is explaining to people the whys and wherefores as to why they are no longer free. Get it?

richard9151  posted on  2007-01-18   11:25:18 ET  Reply   Untrace   Trace   Private Reply  


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I doubt very much that you know a single Christian; just because someone says that is what they are, don´t make it so.

That's very true - like the Disciples being called Christians.

The word Christian appears in Scripture 3 times, and each time it was in reference to Disciples of the Messiah. HOWEVER, never once did any of the Disciples call themselves "Christian"; but were called that by others...

I would submit that "Christians" are of a different "ilk" than those that actually do follow The Creator and the Messiah; and as such the extreme minority of those true followers should be calling themselves something other than "Christian". As to what - perhaps we could take Jonah's example:
Jonah 1:9 And he said unto them, I [am] an Hebrew; and I fear the LORD, the God of heaven, which hath made the sea and the dry [land].

If Jonah had been in charge of naming things for NASA, we'd be seeing names like The Abraham, The Isaac, or The Jacob... Instead left in the hands of Christians, we have names like Apollo, Mercury, and Jupiter.

The Messiah said "You'll know them by their fruits"... I'm perfectly happy to let Christians be Christians, and do what they do - I just don't want to be one of them, and ain't.

innieway  posted on  2007-01-18   12:24:41 ET  Reply   Untrace   Trace   Private Reply  


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Instead left in the hands of Christians, we have names like Apollo, Mercury, and Jupiter.

Point well taken. But the word Christian does appear in the Bible, and, just because such as those who name things such as you mention call themselves Christian, well, I do not permit such to rule how I speak or act.

So, in what you said, I would have said; Instead left in the hands of so-called Christians, we have names like Apollo, Mercury, and Jupiter.

Many of my friends have the same opinion that you do, but we know each other by our fruits. And, those friends do not take oaths, use drugs (legal or illegal), send their children to the public fool system, sign up their children into SS, or, any of the other things too numerous to mention that make up so- called modern life. A number of them are also accomplished herbalists.

I understand your point. Please, understand mine when I use the word.

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I understand your point. Please, understand mine when I use the word.

I do...

But how many others do??? When the local judge (who calls himself a Christian) hears the word "Christian", it does NOT conjure up the image you painted of those friends do not take oaths, use drugs (legal or illegal), send their children to the public fool system, sign up their children into SS, or, any of the other things too numerous to mention that make up so- called modern life.". For him to understand that I'm different, I need to claim to be something different - and show it in my actions...

Religious Free Exercise is the one last bastion of sanity left in America. It's quite easy to avoid participating in the census or exempt your kids from vaccinations based on "religious beliefs" provided you're not claiming "Christianity" as your "religion". Once you do that they retort with "Well ol Hank down the road is a Christian - he goes to the Baptist church every week; and he filled out the census, or Kathy goes to the Catholic church and she got her kids vaccinated"...

Like you said, the word Christian IS in Scripture - BUT like I said, it's not a title the Disciples called themselves. It was something that others called them. I've been called lots of things over the years (and a lot of it wasn't exactly nice), but that doesn't mean they were right.

I truly DO know where you're coming from, and we think very much alike. I just won't and don't go by a title which can cause confusion to the masses, and I certainly don't fit in with the masses.

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