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Title: Letter by a Mexican
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URL Source: http://vdare.com/letters/tl_011807.htm
Published: Jan 19, 2007
Author: "J. R."
Post Date: 2007-01-19 11:26:00 by innieway
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This is a letter which was written in response to an article written by a one Jared Taylor entitled Do We Need More Hispanics?: From: J R [Send him mail First off, I believe Mr Taylor means that the US Census did not have a category for "Hispanics" until 1970...not 1980 In 1970, the US Census coined the artificial term, "Hispanic". Before that, "Hispanics" were counted as WHITE on the assumption most of us were of Spanish descent...as in southern European Spanish..."Hispanics" were tallied at 5% of the USA population by the 1970 US Census... That said... It doesn't matter if White America "needs" or WANTS more "Hispanics"...we are here and our numbers will only rise rapidly in decades to come...mostly due to the birth rate DIFFERENTIAL with other groups...besides...it’s NOT as if Europeans concerned themselves much with the sensitivities of NATIVE Americans when they began arriving ILLEGALLY in large numbers as NY Times writer...William Hogeland recently eloquently pointed out ... Ultimately, the reason for the demographic replacement of whites in the USA will be LOW BIRTH rates coupled with the psychological and neo-natal effects of 2 fratricidal wars among the whites themselves...known as WW1 and WW2...I mean…is it MEXICAN’S fault that Germany’s population is now in decline because of low birth rates? "Hispanics" are now 22% of the under 5 age population in the USA per the Washington Post, look at the charts and graphs at the bottom of the page...[Of U.S. Children Under 5, Nearly Half Are Minorities| Hispanic Growth Fuels Rise, Census Says By D'Vera Cohn and Tara Bahrampour, May 10, 2006] Given that 2/3 of USA "Hispanics" are of Mexican ancestry, it’s safe to assume about 13-14% of ALL under 5 age youngsters in the USA are now of MEXICAN origin...a number that will SURELY rise in decades to come... Society at large can perhaps afford to discard despised minorities, such as blacks, when they are a small percentage of the population...but THIS society will NOT be able to write off 1/4 of its youth...and that's JUST the "Hispanic" portion…over 50% in the southwestern states...can California afford to write off over 50% of its youth??? What happens when "Hispanic" youth represent 65%+ of southwestern states youth??? Can these states AFFORD to write off 2/3 of their youth??? By 2025, us MEXICAN-Americans will be the majority of California, Arizona, New Mexico and Texas. Nevada and Colorado will not be far behind... More importantly, the foreign born % of our population will drop precipitously....most estimates I see say about 15%...down from the current 40%-50%....depending on the survey... This means that the 100+ Congressional representatives of the 7 southwestern states, plus their 14 US Senators, will have to be responsive to an electorate that is at least half "Hispanic"...and rising... By 2025, "Hispanics", 80% of whom are of MEXICAN ancestry in California, will be about 25% of the University of California system, still "under-represented" to be sure, but at 25% , a strong presence on campus...I arrive at this number by extrapolating from the fact that about 25% of California "gifted" students are now "Hispanic"...under-represented to be sure...I mean..."Hispanics" are 38% of California's people Fyi,”only" 2/3 of "Hispanics" in Los Angeles County are of MEXICAN ancestry... The following counties are ones to keep an eye on; In short, these counties will resemble the demographic profile of Los Angeles County, California or Bexar County, Texas TODAY...only the overwhelming majority of the "Hispanics" will be USA born and bred This means we will be the Sheriffs, Police, Mayors, County Supervisors, etc...will be FORCED to respond to "Hispanic" electorates and communities....DEMOCRACY, remember??? "Hispanic" PURCHASING POWER will surpass 1 TRILLION (with a T) dollars by 2010....consider the cultural implications of this as companies vie to market to this community... By 2025...the income, wealth, educational, etc disparities between "Hispanics" and the general population will NARROW...though obviously not be erased....however...by SHEER FORCE OF NUMBERS...we will have a STRONG (25%+) presence on most southwestern states college campuses... In short, whoever has a problem with this should consider going back to Europe, Asia, Africa, Middle East or whatever the case may be ...Cuba perhaps??? MEXICAN, NOT HISPANIC, NOT LATINO!!! P.S. Sure hope I get to read Joe "The Wop" Guzzardi’s obituary SOON ...maybe we can send his corpse back to the land of his mama’s birth??? As a 28 year old man, I also look forward to reading Peter "The IMMIGRANT" Brimelow obituary as well...and GOD willing...I will also get to read the obituaries of Steve Sailer (who I have seen in person at the Beverly Center ...I felt like confronting him...I was in a large party...but...at the end of day...EVERYONE has a right to their opinion...even ME ), Pat Buchanan Mr Brimelow...if that bothers you....GO BACK TO ENGLAND where you belong!!!
Poster Comment: So you don't see a major problem brewing with "our friends south of the border" do you Mr Bush.... The NAU should be enough to make all of our blood boil!!! 
San Diego County, California...will be majority "Hispanic" in 20 years...meaning the under-25 age population will be at least 65% "Hispanic"... Orange County, California...will be 45%-50% "Hispanic" by 2025....meaning the under-25 aged population will be at least 65% "Hispanic"... Maricopa County, Arizona...will be at least 50% "Hispanic" in 20 years...meaning racist Sheriffs like Joe Arpaio will be a thing of the past... Pima County, Arizona...site of Tucson...will be 50%+ "Hispanic" by 2025.... Clark County, Nevada will be over 40%+ "Hispanic" by 2025....seat of Las Vegas....meaning the under-25 aged population will be 50%+ "Hispanic" Denver County , Colorado...will be over 50% "Hispanic" by 2025...meaning the under-25 aged population will be 65%+ "Hispanic" Harris County, Texas... will be over 50% "Hispanic" by 2025...meaning the under-25 aged population will be 65%+ "Hispanic" Travis County, Texas...will be over 50% "Hispanic" by 2025...meaning the under-25 aged population will be 65%+ "Hispanic" Dallas County, Texas...will be over 50% "Hispanic" by 2025...meaning the under-25 aged population will be 65%+ "Hispanic" 
In short, whoever has a problem with this should consider going back to Europe, Asia, Africa, Middle East or whatever the case may be ...Cuba perhaps???
Fuck you JR!!! Take your slimy ass back to Mexico where it came from (probably illegally in your background) and straighten out your country's own bullshit!!!!! P.S. Sure hope I get to read Joe "The Wop" Guzzardi’s obituary SOON ...maybe we can send his corpse back to the land of his mama’s birth??? As a 28 year old man, I also look forward to reading Peter "The IMMIGRANT" Brimelow obituary as well...and GOD willing...I will also get to read the obituaries of Steve Sailer (who I have seen in person at the Beverly Center ...I felt like confronting him...I was in a large party...but...at the end of day...EVERYONE has a right to their opinion...even ME ), Pat Buchanan and Jared Taylor as well....the one thing you ALL have in common in that you are a bunch of OLD men...WE are the YOUTH...WE ARE THE FUTURE!!! Mr Brimelow...if that bothers you....GO BACK TO ENGLAND where you belong!!!
Again JR, if this doesn't show your true colors (and the rest of your ilk) then what does??? And again - FUCK YOU ASSHOLE!!!!!
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#21. To: Jethro Tull (#17)
Why yes we can. No shit. Already 2/3 of the youths biggest talent is playing Nintendo...
No matter how noble the objectives of a government; if it blurs decency and kindness, cheapens human life, and breeds ill will and suspicion - it is an EVIL government. Eric Hoffer
Plenty of space left for Beef Vats.
NOT, I’ll not, carrion comfort, Despair, not feast on thee; lol
% white non-hispanic, fibonacci ratios % population <= 5 yrs, quantiles NOT, I’ll not, carrion comfort, Despair, not feast on thee; Unfortunately it is not just the southwest. I have seen this scenario in the north far too many times. One Mexican moves to town, figures out that small farming communities are not as concerned with such things as green cards. He gets on the horn to his buddies, and withing a year there is a significant Hispanic population where there had been none before. Yes the Hispanic population is heavier in the southwest, and this only makes sense. When you move away from home and family anyone who has strong family ties would prefer to remain within a reasonable driving distance of home. All of the Mexicans that I had to opportunity to know on a personal basis were family orientated. I cannot blame the Mexicans for wanting to move here. We went down there, screwed with their political structure and made their meager lives worse (from meager, it is not far to go to get to unbearable). Even though I do not blame the Mexicans personally, that does not mean that I want them here. I will be at the front of the line to go politician head-hunting and get this country back on track. We are far beyond the letter writing and phone call stage.
"Don't Steal, the government hates competition."
At some point, the population will get to the point where it can no longer sustain this massive emigration. Already, the Western US is short of water. The US as a whole is now a net importer of food. One economic downturn with Government in debt as it is (thus unable to extract additional tribute) and *poof* the whole house of cards collapses. What is "JR" going to do when the freebies cease? He'll go take what he wants. That is when "JR" will be shot dead. If anyone can show me an alternative ending to this game, please post it.
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I Have to agree that our economy maintain our current actions. I cannot say that the emigration is the reason that we are headed for an economic collapse. It is the Americans who have allowed big business to take over, the Americans who are more willing to buy foreign goods than to pay more for domestic, and it is the Americans who will not stand up to the politicians. The Mexicans, in my opinion, are neither contributing nor helping our issues with how much we import. The Mexicans are the primary labor most food that is grown domestically, I think that may offset the imported goods that they purchase. One of the largest negative effects the Mexicans have on our economy is the health care and other assistance that is paid by the US for them. Overall, I do look at this as primarily an American problem. It is our fault, and if we want to solve it, it is up to us. Unfortunately this will not be as easy as it could have been before the problem got this far out of hand. It reminds me of the old adage, "An ounce of prevention is worth a pound of cure".
"Don't Steal, the government hates competition."
It would be less insulting if the self-styled ethnic spokesmen weren't as obnoxious as they are. Personally, I think the economy will take care of it. After we raise taxes through the roof to pay for Social Security they won't want to come :-)
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????????????????????????? Very few of them pay taxes. It is the Americans who will suffer as they raise taxes through the roof so the Mexicans can receive benefits!!
"Don't Steal, the government hates competition."
Everyone who gets a W2 pays FICA and medicare tax.
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Not everyone gets one. We have two people here in my home that do not, and we are both natural Americans and work at two different locations. I did not even ask to be paid in cash when I was hired on, that is the preferred method of the company. If you look you can find a job that pays in cash, and there are people who would rather not pay in cash, but will if you ask them and if you are a hard enough worker.
"Don't Steal, the government hates competition."
True, but for industries who do hire illegal workers and pay on a W2 based on a phoney SSN, they will be soaked. For those on a 1099 (and that will be cracked down on soon) they get to pay double taxation. It will all work out.
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OK, and what about those who do not get a 10-99?
"Don't Steal, the government hates competition."
What is "JR" going to do when the freebies cease? define JR. If you think that Mèxicans make up a majority of those on the dole in the states, you are sadly mistaken. And besides, the UN has a plan; see the post from today, UN Signs on US Parks. There are plans that have been made by the UN and the US government covering reducing the US population to less than 50 million in this century. I have seen the population control posts done on 4um, and they are quite accurate. I agree with what ladybug said above; I do not want to see the Mèxicans in the states either; they have a good country IF THEY ARE LEFT ALONE! But they are not; the interference in Mèxico´s affairs by interests from the states has been going on for more than 100 years, and, quite frankly, the people of Mèxico are tired of it, and they have no sympathy for the whining from north of the border. Unlike in the states, there is actually a free press here, and members of that press are murdered because of the reporting they do on a pretty regular basis. People here know and understand much more so than the average American.
The Light travels faster than sound. This is why some people appear bright until you hear them speak.
Understand this; the ONLY reason for laws making legal the Mèxicans working in the states is to get them into the tax system. That is it. Also, remember, the Mèxicans had NOTHING to do with the changes in the law that permitted UNDOCUMENTED aliens to collect welfare, receive free medical treatment, educate their children for free (not even have to pay for books!) and on and on and on. That is what I was referring to when I said; AND IT IS ALL FREE MAN!!
The Light travels faster than sound. This is why some people appear bright until you hear them speak.
Are you Alberto Gonzalez?
sometimes there just aren't enough belgians
Boy, are you wacked! Only the small fry will get cracked down on. Do you really believe that friends-of-Bill/George-etc. will pay extra? Or, that anyone will dare to check them?! And, can you refer me to one single law that is effectively enforced within the United States? I worked without taxation for 15 years before I left. Not even hard to do, and, if that underground economy did not exist, then the US would have collasped some time ago!
The Light travels faster than sound. This is why some people appear bright until you hear them speak.
SSHHHH! NOT SO LOUD!!!
The Light travels faster than sound. This is why some people appear bright until you hear them speak.
No, I do not. But I do believe that they do make up the majority of those on the dole that have not made a previous contribution of a significant amount. The US needs to leave a lot of countries alone. Afghanistan, Iraq, Somalia, Iran, and Israel(yes, Israel, Let them support themselves and fight their own fights). Mexico is one of the countries that we have done very little damage to by comparison to many others - and you know that the damage to Mexico is very significant. Just think how rotten we have made life for people in other countries.
"Don't Steal, the government hates competition."
That is exactly it. If someone cannot work legally in this country, they will seek a job that allows them to "fly under the radar". By legalizing these people they can get run of the mill, legal employment for a company that applies withholding taxes properly. You are correct, that was proposed when the US started inviting in many refugees from many countries. No one can look down on the Mexicans for taking advantage of this opportunity. Hell, if I could move to Mexico and work without paying taxes, get free medical, free education, and many other benefits, I would be all over that quicker than flies on shit. I would also invite my family and friends who would invite their family and friends and so on and so forth. Of course Mexicans seem to be a bit wiser than the average American, and their government would never allow such a thing. If roles were reversed, you know that anyone caught crossing the border would stand the risk of being shot on sight - not fed, administered medical treatment and dental care, they sometimes politely returned to our side of the border hence giving them the opportunity to make another attempt.
"Don't Steal, the government hates competition."
Hell no, laws are placed on the books so that they are handy tools in case someone WANTS to use them for a purpose. That is why most laws are written in a vague manner, so they may be twisted if need be. The government looks at writing a law as most look at buying a gun. It might be a good idea to have in case you need to rid yourself of a varmint, you may not have a varmint today, but you don't know when you might have one wander in.
"Don't Steal, the government hates competition."
Mexicans would not be coming here by the thousands if it were not for NAFTA, which has ruined the peasant's ability to earn a living off the land as they have done for generations.
"It is the old practice of despots to use a part of the people to keep the rest in order; and those who have once got an ascendency and possessed themselves of all the resources of the nation, their revenues and offices, have immense means for retaining their advantages." Thomas Jefferson to John Taylor, 1798
Alberto "the monkey" Gonzolez? Are you gonna drink that milk?
sometimes there just aren't enough belgians
That's what the coming consumption tax (along with the income tax) will take care of.
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Property tax collection on land. Next?
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And what about those few who produce the vast majority of what they consume?
"Don't Steal, the government hates competition."
Me And Mrs Jones /Billy Paul sometimes there just aren't enough belgians
Waco and Ruby Ridge should be enough of a wakeup call to those people -- and inform them that the days of that lifestyle are numbered.
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Actually I don't think ANY nation will have learned its lesson until it dumps GUN CONTROL in any form. GUN CONTROL is the foundation for all other forms of tyrany and totalitarianism including GENOCIDE and DEMOCIDE.
If you carefully fly under the radar, it can be done. We do it here, and I do not feel that "our days are numbered" because of it. In fact, when the economy turns turtle, our days will most likely be lengthened because of it.
"Don't Steal, the government hates competition."
Until the masses overrun you or the Government comes to re-allocate your resources. Most localities have "anti-hoarding" statutes and there are statutes in every state and at the Federal level to re-allocate everything you own in the event of an emergency. Don't worry, be happy. It has all been arranged.
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It is apparent that you believe that the government will dominate everyone and there is nothing that anyone can do in their own self defense, so just roll over and await your fate. I would rather prepare just in case they forget to raid our home. I would far rather know that I did all that I could then to have done nothing and sit there starving wondering what I could have done. My dear Ol' Grandad always told me to make sure at the end of my days when I look back on my life that I regret the things I did instead of the things I didn't do. I do not think that I will regret being prepared. Worse case scenario, if the government does raid our stores it would help a little bit to feed others. On the other hand, if I did not try to prepare at all, I know I would regret it!!!
"Don't Steal, the government hates competition."
Try again, because you are not even close. I have a large number of friends who have un-taxed their homes using existing laws on the books. Try the railroad companies, who still hold tens of thousands of acres of land given to them in the 1800s under allodial title, and, the buildings built on that land are also not taxable. And if you think that these two examples are the only ones, well, do you really believe that David Rockefeller and his rich friends are unaware of the advantages in not paying taxes of this sort?! Oh oh oh, another one is the Federal Reserve, which also pays no income tax. (And do not go there; I can show you a federal court case where the court ruled that employees of the Federal Reserve were not entitled to join the federal retirement program because they are employed in a private, non-governmental company.)
The Light travels faster than sound. This is why some people appear bright until you hear them speak.
Ummm, interesting. Sounds like the final stages of democracy.
The Light travels faster than sound. This is why some people appear bright until you hear them speak.
Listen to the man, you all, cause he just hit the nail on the head, the ball out of the park, scored 150 out of a possible 100 points, and did a triple double, all in one sentance. The entire problem in the US with the illegal migration from Mèxico is caused by this and this alone. Prior to NAFTA, THERE WAS NO PROBLEM. And there would not be today, without NAFTA. Most Mèxicans do not share the values that you all find so dear, i.e., new cars, flat screen TV (and the bigger; THE BETTER!), and consumerism in general. Family is where it is at, and most of them would chose to stay at home, if it were possible. And, most of them would come back home, IF IT WERE POSSIBLE. It ain´t, and they are not going to as long as the United States government is in charge of America.
The Light travels faster than sound. This is why some people appear bright until you hear them speak.
Exactly, and, so that the rich, who can afford countless lawyers, can not be held accountable for any of their actions, because there is always a back door- get-out-of-jail-free-card available. Reminds me of the observation that the more laws a nation has, the more corrupt it is. (Boy, we sure think a lot alike!)
The Light travels faster than sound. This is why some people appear bright until you hear them speak.
Exactly. And, I suspect, that day is not that far off! Thank the good Lord that I am not in a city in the US!
The Light travels faster than sound. This is why some people appear bright until you hear them speak.
I cannot agree with you more on that point!!
"Don't Steal, the government hates competition."
BINGO!!! And the American people have been duped by the "women's lib" and "equal rights for all" as a means for the government to tax a greater percent of the population.
"Don't Steal, the government hates competition."
Yes, we do. I think that this stems from both of us having gotten to know several Mexicans and understanding their plight, learning the problem from their perspective. It is amazing what you can see when you learn to look at life from more than one point of view.
"Don't Steal, the government hates competition."
Even more than knowing a few Mèxicans, I think this is the single most important aspect of learning; look, listen, learn. Without the look and listen, no learning. Everything stays static, and boring!
The Light travels faster than sound. This is why some people appear bright until you hear them speak.
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Top • Page Up • Full Thread • Page Down • Bottom/LatestWhat happens when "Hispanic" youth represent 65%+ of southwestern states youth??? Can these states AFFORD to write off 2/3 of their youth???
#22. To: richard9151 (#6)
What excess population!? Try driving through the midwest,
Not untwist—slack they may be—these last strands of man
In me ór, most weary, cry I can no more. I can;
#23. To: Tauzero (#22)
Plenty of space left for Beef Vats.
#24. To: Jethro Tull (#17)
Circa 2000
(Any blue > 61.8%. Darkest blue > 91%) 
(Not blue < 6%. Darkest blue > 7.4%)
Not untwist—slack they may be—these last strands of man
In me ór, most weary, cry I can no more. I can;
#25. To: mirage, richard9151 (#9)
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Its all about overpopulation and environmental degradation and lack of resources. Think about where the "Hispanics" are moving to -- the Southwest?
Jose got to California,(Minnesota, Wisconsin, North Dakota, South Dakota...) found out all of this neat stuff, and called home... ¨Hey, Pablo... GUESS WHAT!? ITS ALL FREE MAN!!!!¨
#26. To: ladybug (#25)
#27. To: mirage (#26)
The US as a whole is now a net importer of food.
#28. To: ladybug (#27)
#29. To: mirage (#28)
After we raise taxes through the roof to pay for Social Security they won't want to come :-)
#30. To: ladybug (#29)
It is the Americans who will suffer as they raise taxes through the roof so the Mexicans can receive benefits!!
#31. To: mirage (#30)
Everyone who gets a W2 pays FICA and medicare tax.
#32. To: ladybug (#31)
#33. To: mirage (#32)
For those on a 1099 (and that will be cracked down on soon) they get to pay double taxation.
#34. To: mirage, ladybug (#26)
If anyone can show me an alternative ending to this game, please post it.
#35. To: ladybug, mirage (#29)
Very few of them pay taxes.
#36. To: richard9151 (#35)
he Mèxicans had NOTHING to do with the changes in the law that permitted UNDOCUMENTED aliens to collect welfare, receive free medical treatment, educate their children for free (not even have to pay for books!) and on and on and on. That is what I was referring to
#37. To: mirage, ladybug (#32)
For those on a 1099 (and that will be cracked down on soon) they get to pay double taxation.
#38. To: Dakmar (#36)
Are you Alberto Gonzalez?
#39. To: richard9151 (#34)
If you think that Mèxicans make up a majority of those on the dole in the states, you are sadly mistaken.
I do not want to see the Mèxicans in the states either; they have a good country IF THEY ARE LEFT ALONE!
#40. To: richard9151 (#35)
Understand this; the ONLY reason for laws making legal the Mèxicans working in the states is to get them into the tax system. That is it.
Mèxicans had NOTHING to do with the changes in the law that permitted UNDOCUMENTED aliens to collect welfare, receive free medical treatment, educate their children for free (not even have to pay for books!) and on and on and on.
#41. To: richard9151 (#37)
And, can you refer me to one single law that is effectively enforced within the United States?
#42. To: ladybug (#39)
Mexico is one of the countries that we have done very little damage to by comparison to many others - and you know that the damage to Mexico is very significant. Just think how rotten we have made life for people in other countries.
#43. To: richard9151 (#38)
#44. To: ladybug (#33)
OK, and what about those who do not get a 10-99?
#45. To: richard9151 (#37)
And, can you refer me to one single law that is effectively enforced within the United States?
#46. To: mirage (#44)
That's what the coming consumption tax (along with the income tax) will take care of.
#47. To: mirage (#44)
Who said pop culture isn't a good influence?
#48. To: ladybug (#46)
And what about those few who produce the vast majority of what they consume?
#49. To: Pissed Off Janitor (#10)
#50. To: mirage (#48)
and inform them that the days of that lifestyle are numbered.
#51. To: ladybug (#50)
In fact, when the economy turns turtle, our days will most likely be lengthened because of it.
#52. To: mirage (#51)
Until the masses overrun you or the Government comes to re-allocate your resources. Most localities have "anti-hoarding" statutes and there are statutes in every state and at the Federal level to re-allocate everything you own in the event of an emergency.
#53. To: mirage (#45)
Property tax collection on land.
#54. To: Coral Snake (#49)
DEMOCIDE.
#55. To: BTP Holdings, ladybug, mirage, all (#42)
Mexicans would not be coming here by the thousands if it were not for NAFTA, which has ruined the peasant's ability to earn a living off the land as they have done for generations.
#56. To: ladybug (#41)
Hell no, laws are placed on the books so that they are handy tools in case someone WANTS to use them for a purpose. That is why most laws are written in a vague manner, so they may be twisted if need be.
#57. To: ladybug, mirage (#50)
In fact, when the economy turns turtle, our days will most likely be lengthened because of it.
#58. To: richard9151 (#57)
Thank the good Lord that I am not in a city in the US!
#59. To: richard9151 (#55)
Family is where it is at, and most of them would chose to stay at home, if it were possible.
#60. To: richard9151 (#56)
(Boy, we sure think a lot alike!)
#61. To: ladybug (#60)
It is amazing what you can see when you learn to look at life from more than one point of view.
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