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Title: Gonzales Questions Habeas Corpus
Source: baltimorechronicle.com
URL Source: http://baltimorechronicle.com/2007/011907Parry.shtml
Published: Jan 19, 2007
Author: ROBERT PARRY
Post Date: 2007-01-19 13:39:55 by Ferret Mike
Keywords: None
Views: 166
Comments: 16

Responding to questions from Sen. Arlen Specter at a Senate Judiciary Committee hearing on Jan. 18, Gonzales argued that the Constitution doesn’t explicitly bestow habeas corpus rights; it merely says when the so-called Great Writ can be suspended. “There is no expressed grant of habeas in the Constitution; there’s a prohibition against taking it away,” Gonzales said.

Gonzales’s remark left Specter, the committee’s ranking Republican, stammering.

“Wait a minute,” Specter interjected. “The Constitution says you can’t take it away except in case of rebellion or invasion. Doesn’t that mean you have the right of habeas corpus unless there’s a rebellion or invasion?”

Gonzales continued, “The Constitution doesn’t say every individual in the United States or citizen is hereby granted or assured the right of habeas corpus. It doesn’t say that. It simply says the right shall not be suspended” except in cases of rebellion or invasion.”

“You may be treading on your interdiction of violating common sense,” Specter said.

While Gonzales’s statement has a measure of quibbling precision to it, his logic is troubling because it would suggest that many other fundamental rights that Americans hold dear also don’t exist because the Constitution often spells out those rights in the negative.

For instance, the First Amendment declares that “Congress shall make no law respecting an establishment of religion, or prohibiting the free exercise thereof; or abridging the freedom of speech, or of the press, or the right of the people peaceably to assemble, and to petition the Government for a redress of grievances.”

Applying Gonzales’s reasoning, one could argue that the First Amendment doesn’t explicitly say Americans have the right to worship as they choose, speak as they wish or assemble peacefully. The amendment simply bars the government, i.e. Congress, from passing laws that would impinge on these rights. Similarly, Article I, Section 9, of the Constitution states that “the privilege of the Writ of Habeas Corpus shall not be suspended, unless when in Cases of Rebellion or Invasion the public Safety may require it.”

The clear meaning of the clause, as interpreted for more than two centuries, is that the Founders recognized the long-established English law principle of habeas corpus, which guarantees people the right of due process, such as formal charges and a fair trial.

That Attorney General Gonzales would express such an extraordinary opinion, doubting the constitutional protection of habeas corpus, suggests either a sophomoric mind or an unwillingness to respect this well-established right, one that the Founders considered so important that they embedded it in the original text of the Constitution.

Other cherished rights – including freedom of religion and speech – were added later in the first 10 amendments, known as the Bill of Rights.

Ironically, Gonzales may be wrong in another way about the lack of specificity in the Constitution’s granting of habeas corpus rights. Many of the legal features attributed to habeas corpus are delineated in a positive way in the Sixth Amendment, which reads:

“In all criminal prosecutions, the accused shall enjoy the right to a speedy and public trial, by an impartial jury of the State and district wherein the crime shall have been committed … and to be informed of the nature and cause of the accusation; to be confronted with the witnesses against him; [and] to have compulsory process for obtaining witnesses.”

Bush's Powers

Gonzales’s Jan. 18 statement suggests that he is still seeking reasons to make habeas corpus optional, subordinate to President George W. Bush’s executive powers that Bush’s neoconservative legal advisers claim are virtually unlimited during “a time of war,” even one as vaguely defined as the “war on terror” which may last forever. In the final weeks of the Republican-controlled Congress, the Bush administration pushed through the Military Commissions Act of 2006 that effectively eliminated habeas corpus for non-citizens, including legal resident aliens.

Under the new law, Bush can declare any non-citizen an “unlawful enemy combatant” and put the person into a system of military tribunals that give defendants only limited rights. Critics have called the tribunals “kangaroo courts” because the rules are heavily weighted in favor of the prosecution.

Some language in the new law also suggests that “any person,” presumably including American citizens, could be swept up into indefinite detention if they are suspected of having aided and abetted terrorists.

“Any person is punishable as a principal under this chapter who commits an offense punishable by this chapter, or aids, abets, counsels, commands, or procures its commission,” according to the law, passed by the Republican-controlled Congress in September and signed by Bush on Oct. 17, 2006.

Another provision in the law seems to target American citizens by stating that “any person subject to this chapter who, in breach of an allegiance or duty to the United States, knowingly and intentionally aids an enemy of the United States ... shall be punished as a military commission … may direct.”

Who has “an allegiance or duty to the United States” if not an American citizen? That provision would not presumably apply to Osama bin Laden or al-Qaeda, nor would it apply generally to foreign citizens. This section of the law appears to be singling out American citizens.

Besides allowing “any person” to be swallowed up by Bush’s system, the law prohibits detainees once inside from appealing to the traditional American courts until after prosecution and sentencing, which could translate into an indefinite imprisonment since there are no timetables for Bush’s tribunal process to play out.

The law states that once a person is detained, “no court, justice, or judge shall have jurisdiction to hear or consider any claim or cause of action whatsoever … relating to the prosecution, trial, or judgment of a military commission under this chapter, including challenges to the lawfulness of procedures of military commissions.”

That court-stripping provision – barring “any claim or cause of action whatsoever” – would seem to deny American citizens habeas corpus rights just as it does for non-citizens. If a person can’t file a motion with a court, he can’t assert any constitutional rights, including habeas corpus.

Other constitutional protections in the Bill of Rights – such as a speedy trial, the right to reasonable bail and the ban on “cruel and unusual punishment” – would seem to be beyond a detainee’s reach as well.

Special Rules Under the new law, the military judge “may close to the public all or a portion of the proceedings” if he deems that the evidence must be kept secret for national security reasons. Those concerns can be conveyed to the judge through ex parte – or one-sided – communications from the prosecutor or a government representative. The judge also can exclude the accused from the trial if there are safety concerns or if the defendant is disruptive. Plus, the judge can admit evidence obtained through coercion if he determines it “possesses sufficient probative value” and “the interests of justice would best be served by admission of the statement into evidence.”

The law permits, too, the introduction of secret evidence “while protecting from disclosure the sources, methods, or activities by which the United States acquired the evidence if the military judge finds that ... the evidence is reliable.”

During trial, the prosecutor would have the additional right to assert a “national security privilege” that could stop “the examination of any witness,” presumably by the defense if the questioning touched on any sensitive matter.

In effect, what the new law appears to do is to create a parallel “star chamber” system for the prosecution, imprisonment and possible execution of enemies of the state, whether those enemies are foreign or domestic.

Under the cloak of setting up military tribunals to try al-Qaeda suspects and other so-called “unlawful enemy combatants,” Bush and the Republican-controlled Congress effectively created a parallel legal system for “any person” – American citizen or otherwise – who crosses some ill-defined line. There are a multitude of reasons to think that Bush and advisers will interpret every legal ambiguity in the new law in their favor, thus granting Bush the broadest possible powers over people he identifies as enemies.

As further evidence of that, the American people now know that Attorney General Gonzales doesn’t even believe that the Constitution grants them habeas corpus rights to a fair trial.


Robert Parry broke many of the Iran-Contra stories in the 1980s for the Associated Press and Newsweek. His latest book, Secrecy & Privilege: Rise of the Bush Dynasty from Watergate to Iraq, can be ordered at http://secrecyandprivilege.com. It's also available at http://Amazon.com, as is his 1999 book, Lost History: Contras, Cocaine, the Press & 'Project Truth.' This article is republished in the Baltimore Chronicle with permission of the author.

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#1. To: Ferret Mike, Christine, Brian S, Honway, Robin, Aristeides, Red Jones, Diana, Kamala, All (#0)

Take a clue, folks; this is the "PSYOPS' nonsense that I've been warning about.

This guy needs to go to prison, for violating his Federal Oath of Office.


SKYDRIFTER  posted on  2007-01-19   13:59:50 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#2. To: Ferret Mike, aristeides, swarthyguy, Zipporah, scrapper2, AllTheKings'HorsesWontDoIt, Red Jones, MUDDOG, ..., Jethro Tull (#0) (Edited)

“There is no expressed grant of habeas in the Constitution; there’s a prohibition against taking it away,” Gonzales said.

Gonzales’s remark left Specter, the committee’s ranking Republican, stammering.

“Wait a minute,” Specter interjected. “The Constitution says you can’t take it away except in case of rebellion or invasion. Doesn’t that mean you have the right of habeas corpus unless there’s a rebellion or invasion?”

Gonzales continued, “The Constitution doesn’t say every individual in the United States or citizen is hereby granted or assured the right of habeas corpus. It doesn’t say that. It simply says the right shall not be suspended” except in cases of rebellion or invasion.”

“You may be treading on your interdiction of violating common sense,” Specter said.

The more corrupt the state, the more numerous the laws. – Tacitus

robin  posted on  2007-01-19   14:56:26 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#3. To: Ferret Mike (#0) (Edited)

The "peter" principle in action: Gonzales has outlived his usefulness.

Sphincter has outlived his usefulness by 43 years.

"They say Justice is blind and I agree ... so much so that she hasn't found her way into a courtroom since 1938"

noone222 12-17-06

noone222  posted on  2007-01-19   15:02:01 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#4. To: robin (#2)

Pretty stunning, ain't it. Caught a glimpse of this on CSPAN and gawked when Gonzo spoke about Habeas Corpus.

But, hey, we live a country where the Supreme Court said in 2000, everyone has a right to vote but there is no requirement or obligation that the vote be counted.

In the near future, everyone will be treated as a smoker. HAHAHA!

swarthyguy  posted on  2007-01-19   15:05:24 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#5. To: noone222 (#3)

The "peter" principle in action: Gonzales has outlived his usefulness.

Do you mean that Gonzales is becoming too obvious to the sheeple, too heavy handed with the "game plan" and this is making the PTB uncomfortable?

As for Specter, I disagree with you. He's very useful to the PTB. He plays his "good cop" role well. Do any sheeple check up on Specter's actual voting record?

scrapper2  posted on  2007-01-19   15:07:52 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#6. To: scrapper2 (#5)

He's very useful to the PTB.

Which makes him useless to us ! Screw them, I don't consider their needs except from my perspective. [In that respect I think most of them need coffins].

"They say Justice is blind and I agree ... so much so that she hasn't found her way into a courtroom since 1938"

noone222 12-17-06

noone222  posted on  2007-01-19   15:14:52 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#7. To: SKYDRIFTER, Ferret Mike, Christine, Brian S, Honway, Robin, Aristeides, Red Jones, Diana, Kamala, All (#1)

Keith Olbermann: Bush destroys Habeas Corpus and sends USA to dark ages

I have a feeling we're all going to be locked up with Keith Olberman.

"You can not save the Constitution by destroying it."

Itisa1mosttoolate  posted on  2007-01-19   17:06:04 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#8. To: Ferret Mike (#0)

While Gonzales’s statement has a measure of quibbling precision to it, his logic is troubling because it would suggest that many other fundamental rights that Americans hold dear also don’t exist because the Constitution often spells out those rights in the negative.

Pure BullShit. The Constitution grants nothing to the people; it is simply a formative document for the government, and specifically states what the government may, and may not, do. And anything that is not specifically named as permissible, is forbidden, period.

If you will go back and read what I wrote in the post, The government is not violating the Constitution, you will begin to see where AND WHY this type of non-sense comes from.

The Light travels faster than sound. This is why some people appear bright until you hear them speak.

richard9151  posted on  2007-01-19   17:26:39 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#9. To: robin (#2)

“You may be treading on your interdiction of violating common sense,” Specter said.

Alberto is showing more than lack of common sense. He is showing his lack of legal sense. Isn't his job as Attorney General to uphold the Constitution and if this doofus is not familiar with the tenets of the Constitution, isn't this a case for the Senate Judicial Committee to be able to demand that GWB remove Alberto due to his visible lack of legal knowledge and skills?

Article 1 Section 9 of the US Constitution:

"The privilege of the Writ of Habeas Corpus shall not be suspended, unless when in Cases of Rebellion or Invasion the public Safety may require it."

Also from http://USConstitution.net:

"the importance of habeas corpus is illustrated by the fact that it was the sole liberty thought important enough to be included in the original text of the Constitution."

scrapper2  posted on  2007-01-19   17:30:01 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#10. To: scrapper2 (#9)

There's the loophole, "INVASION".

Doesn't stipulate the US has to be invaded, that's an assumption, reading broadly the US invading, say, Iraq, makes suspending habeas corpus in the US A- OK.

swarthyguy  posted on  2007-01-19   17:31:56 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#11. To: scrapper2 (#9)

Keith Olbermann - Jonathan Turley Reporting on the end of Habeas Corpus in America

"You can not save the Constitution by destroying it."

Itisa1mosttoolate  posted on  2007-01-19   17:33:25 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#12. To: swarthyguy (#10)

There's the loophole, "INVASION".

Doesn't stipulate the US has to be invaded, that's an assumption, reading broadly the US invading, say, Iraq, makes suspending habeas corpus in the US A- OK.

Surely habeas corpus cannot be suspended on the QT based on the loosey goosey interpretation of "invasion."

scrapper2  posted on  2007-01-19   17:38:58 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#13. To: Itisa1mosttoolate (#11)

Excellent video. Law Professor Turley for President in 2008!

I don't know what's more painful - listening to how the nincompoopinchief is assaulting a bedrock constitutional right or hearing him assaulting the English language anew - "reck-a-nizing" - is as bad or maybe worse than "nook-o-lar."

Honestly, he is dangerous as well as embaressing to this fair nation.

scrapper2  posted on  2007-01-19   18:51:12 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#14. To: scrapper2 (#13)

this fair nation.

Maybe not so "blanco" nowadays, ifyaknowhatimean.

swarthyguy  posted on  2007-01-19   19:45:09 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#15. To: SKYDRIFTER (#1)

I fear he needs something a bit stronger than prison walls, sky......

Last eveniing just before hitting the button on the idiot tube, I saw CSPAN's replay, at least a portion, of the interaction between scotty and gonzales..and then the main event with leahy.

He is devoid of any sense of rightness or decency---merely a puppet being paid big bucks, and no doubt promises of goodies to come after he's out as A/G.

He apparently just ignores, as do most other political bastards, the 10th amendment........which clearly says that any powers not delegated to the United States by the Constitution, nor prohibited by it to the states, are reserved to the states respectively, OR TO THE PEOPLE. The Consitution ONLY gives the feds the power to halt habeas corpus on rebellion or invasion--not on the whims of a friggin idiot president and his lackeys!

Goodness, did I say political basids ignore the 10th, or the whole Constitution? Makes no difference......both apply. Especially so in this matter because these congresscowards VOTED TO LET THE PRESIDENT CRAP ON HABEAS CORPUS FOR WHATEVER REASON HE WANTS.....all a part of that military commissions act, or whatever its called.

I rather got a kick out of ol patrick leahy going off on alien gonzales over that Canadien citizen that we had rendered to syria so he could be tortured for 10 months. Ol leahy asked about this case and the alien told him he couldn't talk about the case........and then started pleading for a week at which time he'd discuss it. Leahy was disgusted with how things have gone that have given the 'human rights beacon nation' huge black eyes because of this admin. The alien tried to say or intimate we had, according to ashcroft, talked to the syrians about not torturing the guy. Leahy jumped right back at him with words to the effect that they were believing the syrians then but now we can't take their word for anything! As noted, he was perturbed==at least a pretty good actor at being perturbed.

rowdee  posted on  2007-01-19   20:05:48 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#16. To: rowdee (#15)

As noted, he was perturbed==at least a pretty good actor at being perturbed.

or Disturbed!

Good to see you rowDee! Alien Gonzales indeed!

The more corrupt the state, the more numerous the laws. – Tacitus

robin  posted on  2007-01-19   21:34:42 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


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