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Title: FOLLOW UP TO Attorney General Gonzales claim that we have no right of habeas corpus.
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Published: Jan 22, 2007
Author: Robert Parry
Post Date: 2007-01-22 12:10:21 by richard9151
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Attorney General Gonzales is correct, because he is referring to all United States citizen, who live in the several states as RESIDENTS, and have contracted with Congress for priviliges and benefits. That makes United States citizens SUBJECT to Congress, and removes all inalienable rights. Richard

John Perna wrote:

FOLLOW UP TO Attorney General Gonzales claim that we have no right of habeas corpus.

What is really fascinating about the Attorney General Gonzales position is the revealing look that it gives into his mind set. There is no specific "grant" of habeas corpus in the constitution, because inalienable rights are not given to us by government. Our founding fathers did not believe government "grants" rights. Instead, they knew that our inalienable rights are given to us by our Creator. Our founding fathers enumerated rights in our constitution, because they wanted government to PROTECT those inalienable rights, that are given to us by our Creator.

The Gonzales opinion is a demonstration of the totalitarian worldview of the evil men who currently infest the White House: Gonzales is saying that unless the Constitution explicitly grants all citizens a right, these rights can be taken away by the President. Thus, there is no right to freedom of speech, religion or assembly because there is, to use the Gonzales language: The constitution does not say that every individual in the United States or every citizen is hereby "granted" or assured the right to free speech. After all, the Constitution's First Amendment simply says that "Congress shall make no law ... abridging the freedom of speech." It doesn't grant a right; all it says is that congress can't abridge it. So in the view of Gonzales, that leaves the President and the courts free to do whatever they want in taking away those our rights.

These evil men need to be impeached. THEN after that, we should perform a fumigation and an exorcism at the White House.

Why are we not surprised that our Attorney General Gonzales dares to attempt to usurp such a sacred constitutional right as habeas corpus? The constitution has been trampled to death. Do we still remember the words "Congress shall pass no law..."? How about the words "...shall not be infringed"? What part of "...shall not be infringed" do they not understand? How about "reasonable" searches that do not require a search warrant? How about the "accused will enjoy the right to a speedy and public trial"? Do we remember when we all knew the constitution prevented the taking of private land to be given to a developer? Our government has made a joke out of the constitution.

If you think any branch of the federal government feels restricted in any way by the constitution, think again. They only pull it out and pretend it's still in effect to accuse the their opposition of violating it.

It is CHILLING that the Attorney General is the top lawyer of the land. YET, he shouldn't even be a US citizen. He is a the descendant of illegal aliens. Being an "anchor baby", he benefited from the wrongful interpretation of the 14th Amendment. Now he feels he is free to wrongfully interpret the habeas corpus clause.

Visit: http://www.google.com/search?hl=en&lr=&q=%22anchor+baby%22+%22Attorney+General+Gonzales%22&btnG=Search

The impeachment of a non-citizen enemy of our constitution should be a "given".

The oath of office; to which Alberto Gonzales swore, was: "I DO SOLEMNLY SWEAR (OR AFFIRM) THAT I WILL SUPPORT AND DEFEND THE CONSTITUTION OF THE UNITED STATES AGAINST ALL ENEMIES, FOREIGN AND DOMESTIC..."

Alberto Gonzales has violated his oath of office. Alberto Gonzales should not only be impeached for his willfully obtuse interpretations of the Constitution, and the violation of his oath of office, he should be disbarred. Gonzales is at the center of Bush's crimes, including authorizing torture and illegal wiretapping. Is it any wonder that Gonzales allowed the imprisonment of border agents Ramos and Compean? Gonzales is acts as an agent for Mexican illegal aliens.

Follow up articles: http://worldnetdaily.com/news/article.asp?ARTICLE_ID=53711

http://www.diggersrealm.com/mt/archives/000890.html H.R. 698 to eliminate anchor baby citizenship H.R. 698 is a bill to deny citizenship to U.S.-born babies of illegal aliens

http://www.thenewamerican.com/artman/publish/article_2447.shtml A Bold Remedy to a Grave Threat

http://www.thenewamerican.com/artman/publish/article_3639.shtml

Call YOUR Congressman at 866 340-9281 1-800-833-6354 1-877-762-8762 1-866-808-0065 1-888-355-3588 1-866-220-0044 NOW!

Call THE President at 202 456-1111 NOW!

----------original message------------------- Attorney General Gonzales claims there is no right of habeas corpus. We need a NEW ATTORNEY GENERAL WATCH THE ACTUAL VIDEO HERE: http://thinkprogress.org/2007/01/19/gonzales-habeas/

Yesterday, (Jan. 18, 2007) during Senate Judiciary Committee hearings, Attorney General Alberto Gonzales claimed there is no express right to habeas corpus in the U.S. Constitution. Gonzales was debating Sen. Arlen Specter (R-PA) about whether the Supreme Court's ruling on Guantanamo detainees last year cited the constitutional right to habeas corpus. Gonzales claimed the Court did not cite such a right, then added, "There is no express grant of habeas in the Constitution. "

Specter pushed back. "Wait a minute. The constitution says you can't take it away, except in the case of rebellion or invasion. Doesn't that mean you have the right of habeas corpus, unless there is an invasion or rebellion?" Specter told Gonzales, "You may be treading on your interdiction and violating common sense, Mr. Attorney General."

As McJoan noted, the right of habeas corpus is clear in Article I, Section 9, Clause 2 of the Constitution: "The Privilege of the Writ of Habeas Corpus shall not be suspended, unless when in Cases of Rebellion or Invasion the public Safety may require it."

Full transcript:

SPECTER: Where you have the Constitution having an explicit provision that the writ of habeas corpus cannot be suspended except for rebellion or invasion, and you have the Supreme Court saying that habeas corpus rights apply to Guantanamo detainees — aliens in Guantanamo — after an elaborate discussion as to why, how can the statutory taking of habeas corpus — when there's an express constitutional provision that it can't be suspended, and an explicit Supreme Court holding that it applies to Guantanamo alien detainees.

GONZALES: A couple things, Senator. I believe that the Supreme Court case you're referring to dealt only with the statutory right to habeas, not the constitutional right to habeas.

SPECTER: Well, you're not right about that. It's plain on its face they are talking about the constitutional right to habeas corpus. They talk about habeas corpus being guaranteed by the Constitution, except in cases of an invasion or rebellion. They talk about John Runningmeade and the Magna Carta and the doctrine being imbedded in the Constitution.

GONZALES: Well, sir, the fact that they may have talked about the constitutional right to habeas doesn't mean that the decision dealt with that constitutional right to habeas.

SPECTER: When did you last read the case?

GONZALES: It has been a while, but I'll be happy to — I will go back and look at it.

SPECTER: I looked at it yesterday and this morning again.

GONZALES: I will go back and look at it. The fact that the Constitution — again, there is no express grant of habeas in the Constitution. There is a prohibition against taking it away. But it's never been the case, and I'm not a Supreme —

SPECTER: Now, wait a minute. Wait a minute. The constitution says you can't take it away, except in the case of rebellion or invasion. Doesn't that mean you have the right of habeas corpus, unless there is an invasion or rebellion?

GONZALES: I meant by that comment, the Constitution doesn't say, "Every individual in the United States or every citizen is hereby granted or assured the right to habeas." It doesn't say that. It simply says the right of habeas corpus shall not be suspended except by —

SPECTER: You may be treading on your interdiction and violating common sense, Mr. Attorney General.

GONZALES: Um.


http://www.consortiumnews.com/2007/011807.html

Gonzales Questions Habeas Corpus

By Robert Parry

January 19, 2007

In one of the most chilling public statements ever made by a U.S. Attorney General, Alberto Gonzales questioned whether the U.S. Constitution grants habeas corpus rights of a fair trial to every American.

Responding to questions from Sen. Arlen Specter at a Senate Judiciary Committee hearing on Jan. 18, Gonzales argued that the Constitution doesn’t explicitly bestow habeas corpus rights; it merely says when the so-called Great Writ can be suspended.

“There is no expressed grant of habeas in the Constitution; there’s a prohibition against taking it away,” Gonzales said.

Gonzales’s remark left Specter, the committee’s ranking Republican, stammering. “Wait a minute,” Specter interjected. “The Constitution says you can’t take it away except in case of rebellion or invasion. Doesn’t that mean you have the right of habeas corpus unless there’s a rebellion or invasion?”

Gonzales continued, “The Constitution doesn’t say every individual in the United States or citizen is hereby granted or assured the right of habeas corpus. It doesn’t say that. It simply says the right shall not be suspended” except in cases of rebellion or invasion.

“You may be treading on your interdiction of violating common sense,” Specter said.

While Gonzales’s statement has a measure of quibbling precision to it, his logic is troubling because it would suggest that many other fundamental rights that Americans hold dear also don’t exist because the Constitution often spells out those rights in the negative.

For instance, the First Amendment declares that “Congress shall make no law respecting an establishment of religion, or prohibiting the free exercise thereof; or abridging the freedom of speech, or of the press, or the right of the people peaceably to assemble, and to petition the Government for a redress of grievances.

Applying Gonzales’s reasoning, one could argue that the First Amendment doesn’t explicitly say Americans have the right to worship as they choose, speak as they wish or assemble peacefully. The amendment simply bars the government, i.e. Congress, from passing laws that would impinge on these rights. Similarly, Article I, Section 9, of the Constitution states that “the privilege of the Writ of Habeas Corpus shall not be suspended, unless when in Cases of Rebellion or Invasion the public Safety may require it.”

The clear meaning of the clause, as interpreted for more than two centuries, is that the Founders recognized the long-established English law principle of habeas corpus, which guarantees people the right of due process, such as formal charges and a fair trial.

That Attorney General Gonzales would express such an extraordinary opinion, doubting the constitutional protection of habeas corpus, suggests either a sophomoric mind or an unwillingness to respect this well-established right, one that the Founders considered so important that they embedded it in the original text of the Constitution.

Other cherished rights – including freedom of religion and speech – were added later in the first 10 amendments, known as the Bill of Rights.

Ironically, Gonzales may be wrong in another way about the lack of specificity in the Constitution’s granting of habeas corpus rights. Many of the legal features attributed to habeas corpus are delineated in a positive way in the Sixth Amendment, which reads:

“In all criminal prosecutions, the accused shall enjoy the right to a speedy and public trial, by an impartial jury of the State and district wherein the crime shall have been committed … and to be informed of the nature and cause of the accusation; to be confronted with the witnesses against him; [and] to have compulsory process for obtaining witnesses.” Bush's Powers Gonzales’s Jan. 18 statement suggests that he is still seeking reasons to make habeas corpus optional, subordinate to President George W. Bush’s executive powers that Bush’s neoconservative legal advisers claim are virtually unlimited during “a time of war,” even one as vaguely defined as the “war on terror” which may last forever.

In the final weeks of the Republican-controlled Congress, the Bush administration pushed through the Military Commissions Act of 2006 that effectively eliminated habeas corpus for non-citizens, including legal resident aliens.

Under the new law, Bush can declare any non-citizen an “unlawful enemy combatant” and put the person into a system of military tribunals that give defendants only limited rights. Critics have called the tribunals “kangaroo courts” because the rules are heavily weighted in favor of the prosecution. Some language in the new law also suggests that “any person,” presumably including American citizens, could be swept up into indefinite detention if they are suspected of having aided and abetted terrorists.

“Any person is punishable as a principal under this chapter who commits an offense punishable by this chapter, or aids, abets, counsels, commands, or procures its commission,” according to the law, passed by the Republican-controlled Congress in September and signed by Bush on Oct. 17, 2006. Another provision in the law seems to target American citizens by stating that “any person subject to this chapter who, in breach of an allegiance or duty to the United States, knowingly and intentionally aids an enemy of the United States ... shall be punished as a military commission … may direct.” Who has “an allegiance or duty to the United States” if not an American citizen? That provision would not presumably apply to Osama bin Laden or al-Qaeda, nor would it apply generally to foreign citizens. This section of the law appears to be singling out American citizens.

Besides allowing “any person” to be swallowed up by Bush’s system, the law prohibits detainees once inside from appealing to the traditional American courts until after prosecution and sentencing, which could translate into an indefinite imprisonment since there are no timetables for Bush’s tribunal process to play out.

The law states that once a person is detained, “no court, justice, or judge shall have jurisdiction to hear or consider any claim or cause of action whatsoever … relating to the prosecution, trial, or judgment of a military commission under this chapter, including challenges to the lawfulness of procedures of military commissions.”

That court-stripping provision – barring “any claim or cause of action whatsoever” – would seem to deny American citizens habeas corpus rights just as it does for non-citizens. If a person can’t file a motion with a court, he can’t assert any constitutional rights, including habeas corpus. Other constitutional protections in the Bill of Rights – such as a speedy trial, the right to reasonable bail and the ban on “cruel and unusual punishment” – would seem to be beyond a detainee’s reach as well.

Special Rules

Under the new law, the military judge “may close to the public all or a portion of the proceedings” if he deems that the evidence must be kept secret for national security reasons. Those concerns can be conveyed to the judge through ex parte – or one-sided – communications from the prosecutor or a government representative.

The judge also can exclude the accused from the trial if there are safety concerns or if the defendant is disruptive. Plus, the judge can admit evidence obtained through coercion if he determines it “possesses sufficient probative value” and “the interests of justice would best be served by admission of the statement into evidence.”

The law permits, too, the introduction of secret evidence “while protecting from disclosure the sources, methods, or activities by which the United States acquired the evidence if the military judge finds that ... the evidence is reliable.”

During trial, the prosecutor would have the additional right to assert a “national security privilege” that could stop “the examination of any witness,” presumably by the defense if the questioning touched on any sensitive matter.

In effect, what the new law appears to do is to create a parallel “star chamber” system for the prosecution, imprisonment and possible execution of enemies of the state, whether those enemies are foreign or domestic. Under the cloak of setting up military tribunals to try al-Qaeda suspects and other so-called “unlawful enemy combatants,” Bush and the Republican-controlled Congress effectively created a parallel legal system for “any person” – American citizen or otherwise – who crosses some ill-defined line.

There are a multitude of reasons to think that Bush and advisers will interpret every legal ambiguity in the new law in their favor, thus granting Bush the broadest possible powers over people he identifies as enemies.

As further evidence of that, the American people now know that Attorney General Gonzales doesn’t even believe that the Constitution grants them habeas corpus rights to a fair trial. ------------- Follow up articles: http://www.juniorg-manaward.com/watch.php http://www.thenewamerican.com/artman/publish/article_1903.shtml

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U.S. Attorney General Gonzales

U.S. Facsist General Gonzales

In the past, protesting Americans would be swarming the White house and Washington, DC over this ALONE.

However, alas, the TV, the federal media, the federal education system have lobotomized, anesthetized, politically emasculated, brainwashed, and distracted the American public majority.

I hated Bush when hating Bush wasn't cool.

wbales  posted on  2007-01-22   12:54:06 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


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Attorney General

It is interesting to note how a play on words baffels people; Attorney General

If it was correctly said, as General of Attorneys, people would get it faster....

The Light travels faster than sound. This is why some people appear bright until you hear them speak.

richard9151  posted on  2007-01-22   15:18:16 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


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During trial, the prosecutor would have the additional right to assert a “national security privilege” that could stop “the examination of any witness,” presumably by the defense if the questioning touched on any sensitive matter.

In effect, what the new law appears to do is to create a parallel “star chamber” system for the prosecution, imprisonment and possible execution of enemies of the state, whether those enemies are foreign or domestic. Under the cloak of setting up military tribunals to try al-Qaeda suspects and other so-called “unlawful enemy combatants,” Bush and the Republican-controlled Congress effectively created a parallel legal system for “any person” – American citizen or otherwise – who crosses some ill-defined line.

But of course....this has been their goal from the time the Pharisees first came into this country dressed as "Pilgrims" and "Separatists"...Pharisee means to "set apart". They wanted to take this country that was promised to Christians, and steal it for themselves....and cast us off. [Psalm 2]

I posted something on this last week...this Star Chamber system is what the Pharisees' Noahide Laws are all about. Didn't George Bush the Senior get passed the law that said our government is based on the Noahide Laws?? And the latest is that one can be executed on HEARSAY EVIDENCE. Under the Noahide Laws, all it takes is the lying testimony of one Jew [even though the Bible requires two]. They have been side-stepping us into the Noahide Laws all along.

"In 1991, Chabad-Lubavitch in cooperation with President Bush established the observance of Education Day, USA "to return the world to the moral and ethical values contained in the Seven Noahide Laws."

Public Law 102--14 (H.J. Res. 104): March 20, 1991

Education Day, USA Proclamation

Joint Resolution to designate March 26, 1991 as "Education Day, USA" Whereas Congress recognizes the historical tradition of ethical values and principles which are the basis of civilized society **** and upon which our great Nation was founded;

Whereas these ethical values and principles have been the bedrock of society from the dawn of civilization, when they were known as the Seven Noahide Laws;

Whereas without these ethical values and principles the edifice of civilization stands in serious peril of returning to chaos;

Whereas society is profoundly concerned with the recent weakening of these principles that has resulted in crises that beleaguer and threaten the fabric of civilized society;

Whereas the justified preoccupation with these crises must not let the citizens of this Nation lose sight of their responsibility to transmit these ethical values from our distinguished past to the generations of the future;

Whereas the Lubavitch movement has fostered and promoted these ethical values and principles throughout the world;

Whereas Rabbi Menachem Mendel Schneerson, leader of the Lubavitch movement, is universally respected and revered and his eighty-ninth birthday falls on March 26, 1991;

Whereas in tribute to this great spiritual leader, "the rebbe", this, his ninetieth year will be seen as one of "education and giving", the year in which we turn to education and charity to return the world to the moral and ethical values contained in the Seven Noahide Laws; and

Whereas this will be reflected in an international scroll of honor signed by the President of the United States and other heads of state: Now, therefore be it

Resolved by the Senate and House of Representatives of the United States of America in Congress assembled, That March 26, 1991, the start of the ninetieth year of Rabbi Menachem Schneerson, leader of the worldwide Lubavitch movement, is designated as "Education Day. U.S.A.". The President is requested to issue a proclamation calling upon the people of the United States to observe such day with appropriate ceremonies and activities.

Approved March 20, 1991.

The doctrines of the Lubavitch Movement are derived from the Kabbalah, the source book of Jewish mysticism or Gnosticism. The Encyclopedia of Religion states that the Lubavitch Hasidic interpretation of the Lurianic system of Kabbalah is among those taught in traditional Jewish institutions:.........."

http://www.watch.pair.com/law.html

"....TODAYS PHARISEES Let us examine what has become of the Pharisees in our modern society and how they continue to attempt to control our lives. The New Testament tells us they controlled Judea at the time of Jesus' mission. Pharisees, both Christian professing and Jewish, control Palestine again today with unimaginable brutality. Needless to say, we do not think Pharisees have gone away; else they would not be tampering with our beliefs. Nor did Webster think they had gone away, as he says in his 1950 definition that Pharisaism became modern Judaism.

The venerable traditionally Christian Webster is not the only one to say this? Proper definitions are taken from correct and proper usage of that less censored age. Many Rabbis have proudly provided the rabbinical sources for Webster's definition. The Universal Jewish Encyclopedia, 1943, state: "The Jewish Religion as it is today traces it descent without a break from the Pharisees- their ideas and methods are found in the Talmud." And Rabbi Louis Finklestein, head of the Jewish Theological Seminary, stated in his book "History of the Jews" 1949,"Pharisaism became talmudist...the spirit of the ancient Pharisees survived unaltered ...therefore any discourse regarding the Jewish religion must be based on Talmudism." Jewish leaders were in the 1950s obviously were proud of their claim to be Pharisees....."

http://www.public-action.com/911/chrzion.html#EXTINCT

Question 12.21: What is the Jewish position on Capital Punishment? (Maimonides, Mishneh Torah, Judges, the Laws of Kings 9:14) Under Noahide law one may be executed based on the testimony of one witness or a confession, ... http://www.faqs.org/faqs/judaism/ FAQ/06-Jewish-Thought/section-22.html

The Cutting Edge Radio Program - Transcript of BIOCHIP 666/NOAHIDE ...This public law singles out one Jewish group for special honor, saying that they embody the principles of these Noahide Laws. ... http://cuttingedge.org/ce1090.html

NOAHIDE LAWS AND THE NWO( Note: The Jewish Law, found in Deuteronomy 17:6, requires the testimony of 2 or 3 witnesses before one can be executed. In fact, the last sentence of verse ... http://www.thewatcherfiles.com/noahide_laws.html

Noahide Law and the New World Order" The Seven Noahide Laws are mentioned twice in Public Law 102-14, but are not spelled out. ... Shall all Christians then be executed because one witness saw ... http://christianparty.net/noahide.htm

This goes along with the other article posted regarding the BAR and the tyranny of the lawyers and judges. I read somewhere that it was discovered long ago that there was a conspiracy by the lawyers to take over this country....that may be why they passed the Original [Missing] Thirteenth Amendment to bar titles of nobility and expatriate any who took on these titles of honor for themselves.

Sooner or later, folks will understand we are in the final stages of the HOLY WAR against America that was OFFICIALLY declared by Cornwallis to George Washington.

Where did these people come from??? Maybe the answer is here:

"....It is through the agency of the ultra-Orthodox Lubavitch Movement that the Gentiles are being prepared to submit to the Noahide Laws under a restored Sanhedrin. Yair Davidy posits, “The name DAN means “judge” in Hebrew. Many lawyers and judges in the USA are of Irish descent of a particular type as is much of the police force . . . Descendants of Dan today appear to be concentrated in Ireland, Britain, the USA, and especially Denmark.” Merovingians are also found leading pseudo-Christian organizations as many profiles in the Council for National Policy and Discernment Ministries reveal. These Merovingian agents actively promote the Hebrew Roots / Messianic Movement as the catalyst for Judaizing Christians......"

"....1. Dan means "judge"

And Rachel said, God hath judged me, and hath also heard my voice, and hath given me a son: therefore called she his name Dan. Genesis 30:6

2. Will be used by God to judge his people

And Jacob called unto his sons, and said, Gather yourselves together, that I may tell you that which shall befall you in the last days. . . Dan shall judge his people, as one of the tribes of Israel. Dan shall be a serpent by the way, an adder in the path, that biteth the horse heels, so that his rider shall fall backward. I have waited for thy salvation, O LORD." Genesis 49:1,16-18............"

THE LOST TRIBE OF DAN

http://www.watch.pair.com/dan.html

I believe that's who they are...but I think they meet their Waterloo here, in America.....soon, I hope......for God will judge HIS people.

I keep harping...Ezekiel 17:1-10/Matthew 15:13.

They have built this monstrosity of "law" by piling one lying abomination on another, as Pharisees are prone to do.

It is CHILLING that the Attorney General is the top lawyer of the land. YET, he shouldn't even be a US citizen. He is a the descendant of illegal aliens. Being an "anchor baby", he benefited from the wrongful interpretation of the 14th Amendment. Now he feels he is free to wrongfully interpret the habeas corpus clause.

If one goes by their original constitution, the 14th Amendment is a FRAUD:

US LEGAL HISTORY

"U.S. Law is Private Merchant Law, leaving the people as Surety and Debtor on the bankruptcy......"

"....December 6th, 1865, the 14th Amendment was proclaimed as ratified **** (even though it never properly was, see below). The 14th Amendment, which is private Roman Catholic Ecclesiastical Trust Law, constitutes a constructive, cestui que trust, a public charitable trust, “PCT,” that was expressly designed to bring every corporate franchise artificial person called a “citizen of the United States” into an inseparable merging with the government until the two are united (with the power inhering in the government, not the people)........"

read all..... http://www.wealth4freedom.com/truth/U.S._legal_history.htm

See the 14th Amendment Index at http://usa-the-republic.com/

"Roman Catholic" is just another front for Judaism, or the "Merchants of Venice" who hijacked our ship with what some argue, is an unratified US CONSTITUTION:

".....This brief identifies the chains with which they, the Merchants of Venice, their direct descendants and their lackeys, have used to make, we the people of North America into debt slaves.

The Merchants of Venice bastardized the many courts of Europe during the Middle Ages so as to effect their continued control, which they had established during the period after the collapse of the Roman Empire, up to the Dark Ages and through the Middle Ages period.

In 1776 (as indicated on the symbolic pyramid on the Federal Reserve $1.00 note), the continuation of their control was revealed as the Illuminati. This was the grand organization (or, re-organization, as they would have us believe) of the Masonic Lodge. The direct effect on us was their influence in the various mixings of the Law of the Sea with the Law of the Land in the British Limited Monarchy system. The situation is as a frog immersed in cold water brought slowly to a boil; the poor creature doesn't recognize the temperature change and cooks unaware.

In the latter half of another webpage I have posted on the internet, I explain how the British Monarchy has exchanged the Anglo-Saxon Common Law, based solely upon God's Law - the Golden Rule - 'Do not unto others as you would not have them do unto you', for British (so-called) Common Law, a form of Roman Civil Law.

Find it here: Treason

The "Founding Fathers" of the USA were all Masons, a commonly known fact. A recent revelation shows that the Constitution of the USA is "Ultra Vires" because it was never ratified -- by either the Committee of The States, or, more appropriately, by the People. Those signing as "witness" after Article VII were members of a committee to draft the Constitution. Witnessing would be the procedure to show unanimous approval of the draft by the committee members involved.

The next step should have been "approval" by the Committee of the States, the representative organization of the States mandated in the Articles of Confederation, Section 5 (AD1777). The final step should have been a "ratification" vote by the eligible voters in all the States concerned. There is no evidence that the latter two steps ever took place, thus making the present Constitution of the USA an unratified draft. Instead, it was only ratified by the corporate officers (Legislatures) of the incorporated States.

Americans have been deceived into believing that those they elect into State legislatures and Congress are 'representatives' of the people. They are only 'representatives' of that portion of the deck (voting district) of the make- believe ship - corporate body politic for which they become corporate officers. Their total allegiance is to the 'captain' - governor of the make-believe ship....."

"...The 14th Amendment to the US Constitution was supposedly inserted to give the black slaves citizenship which was denied to them by the States; but, in fact, what the 14th Amendment did was just transfer ownership from the private slave owners to the US Federal Government....."

[hence, NO RIGHTS UNDER GOD, just PRIVILEGES THAT CAN BE TAKEN AWAY UNDER godGOV.]

"...Links to Further Information on this Topic

How the Crown of Great Britain and the Vatican have maintained a claimed ownership of North America ever since its discovery by the several European nations........"

http://www.biblebelievers.or g.au/cmlaw13.htm

Since the whole "law" is a sham, and SOME of the people have been waking up to it, the only way they can continue their enslavement of us is by force, replacing their phony constitution with their phony "patriot act" and secret detentions, secret tribunals, and secret executions...just what pharisees are inclined to do :

http://www.blueletterbible.org/kjv/Mar/Mar014.html#1

http://www.blueletterbible.org/tsk_b/Mar/14/1.html

http://www.blueletterbible.org/kjv/Isa/Isa010.html#24

AllTheKings'HorsesWontDoIt  posted on  2007-01-22   17:08:29 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#4. To: AllTheKings'HorsesWontDoIt (#3)

ALL OF IT!

Outstanding. Thank you.

The Light travels faster than sound. This is why some people appear bright until you hear them speak.

richard9151  posted on  2007-01-22   20:11:04 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


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