Title: Are biblical spouting “patriots” head cases? Source:
[None] URL Source:[None] Published:Jan 23, 2007 Author:me Post Date:2007-01-23 09:25:29 by Jethro Tull Keywords:None Views:5272 Comments:308
Yeah, they are. Im amazed at the arrogance of some self professed patriot Christians. IMHO, they do more to fracture those of us who get it than any elitist agenda ever could. They are unwitting foot soldiers of the globalists.
Their children, through education can reach any level of achievement they want.
Illegal hispanics also take advantage of affirmative action (reverse racism), putting to rest the notion that AA was designed as a tool to off set 400 years of white racism against blacks.
In the SouthWest there is a lot of competition for govt monies, between Black organizations and Latino. The Latinos have the Catholic Church to begin with, an unfair advantage. The Blacks feel the Latinos are reaping the benefits of everything they worked (and slaved) for; "on their coattails" is the expression I heard in an interview once.
And according to the news on prison riots and turf wars on the street, this rivalry is deepening.
The more corrupt the state, the more numerous the laws. Tacitus
scrapper2: Catholics and Jews and mainstream Protestants and Buddhists - just about all religious leaders are big sympathizers to illegals and unbridled legal immigration generally
destro: This is what you invoke when you use that language:
You are either a. delusionary or b. unable to comprehend the English language or c. your ego is so grand that you cannot admit to a mistake. What's your point or rather what's your problem, Destro?
Please use someone else for your moralizing didactic parable. You are barking up the wrong tree with me if you think I'm going to tolerate your nonsensical comments that are totally inapplicable to me, except in your short-circuited brain.
a. I am a Catholic so like the so-called "self-loathing Jew", I have upclose experience with Catholicism and Catholics to "have the right and the knowledge" to comment on the foibles and/or pluses of the Catholic religion and its adherents. I can generalize and stereotype as much as I want because I've been there and done the walk. In fact, I still do the walk but not as regularly as my family would like.
b. My response, which you quoted out of context, was to a poster who claimed that Catholics were the main enablers of illegal immigration. My rebuttal was that most religions (apart from evangelicals) were pro immigrants and Catholics were no exception - the tenets of most religions involve looking after and looking out for the disenfranchised, the poor, the underdogs looking for a better life - all God's creatures and all that good stuff. I added that in the case of Hispanic illegals, the Catholic leadership might be more vociferous than other religious leaders because Hispanics were Catholics. Duh.
c. Catholics generally are Democrats - it's a fact of life - most Catholics were Johnny Come Later immigrants and considered second class by the WASP establishment in America until recently when Kennedy made it to the Oval Office and he did it on the Democrat ticket.
To this day the Democrat Party promotes itself as one that looks out for minorities, the immigrant and Catholicism is big on that mindset. Statistically you'd probably find more Catholics identifying themselves as Democrats no matter what their economic status like the Jews do. Of course there are exceptions to the rule but generally what I say is true.
#102. To: scrapper2, robin, Jethro Tull, Redheadedstranger (#99)
Catholics generally are Democrats
"We are Republicans, and don't propose to leave our party and identify ourselves with the party whose antecedents have been Rum, Romanism, and Rebellion." - Protestant clergymen Reverend Samuel D. Burchard describing the menace of Irish Catholic immigration - 1884 presidential race - Republicans lost.
"The desire to rule is the mother of heresies." -- St. John Chrysostom
Right, you're supporting Scrappers point. I agree with her. Many of the post Vatican II Catholics I know are socailly liberal Ds. Some vote R (my family) but they're liberal in countless other ways.
By all means - if the Republicans want to again take up the war cry of "Rum, Romanism, and Rebellion" and become the Anglo-Saxon WASP Protestant party (and WASP wannabees) and attack the Catholic church once again like the good old days be my guest.
I just deregistered from the GOP and became an independent so I no longer have a vested interest in the GOP.
"The desire to rule is the mother of heresies." -- St. John Chrysostom
Alien Gonzales is just one example. The Los Angeles Times had an article about one year ago describing how illegals are qualifying for mortgages now.
So? You a commie? What's it to you what a bank does with its investment money and the business risk it takes by giving loans to illegals? There is no legal restriction to foreigners owning property in America.
"The desire to rule is the mother of heresies." -- St. John Chrysostom
I know of a daughter of an illegal who attended Princeton. Mostly they are in local colleges. The young adults who arrive here go to night and trade schools. There is fake ID for any need.
The more corrupt the state, the more numerous the laws. Tacitus
I know of a daughter of an illegal who attended Princeton. Mostly they are in local colleges. The young adults who arrive here go to night and trade schools. There is fake ID for any need.
Anecdotal evidence but you feel this is fact. So then what's the problem according to you? They seem to be assimilating well.
"The desire to rule is the mother of heresies." -- St. John Chrysostom
It's not all or nothing. The barrios are proof they are not assimilating. First and second generation are generally not assimilated. Third generation has a chance but may not take it. There are far fewer 3rd/4th generation here, and far more 1st and 2nd. The current problem is the tsunami of first generation that are arriving and have just arrived even during the length of this thread. Too many are committing crimes and really hate US and our culture. The prison population is testimony to that. Having your neighborhood taken over by people who don't speak English, and have no intention of learning English is not the way to build a healthy community. There is a street in Vista, CA that was renamed from "E. Los Angeles" after it became heavily populated with Latinos (many illegal). Really silly, it didn't change the reality.
The more corrupt the state, the more numerous the laws. Tacitus
"Everybody says there is this RACE problem. Everybody says this RACE problem will be solved when the third world pours into EVERY white country and ONLY into white countries."
"The Netherlands and Belgium are more crowded than Japan or Taiwan, but nobody says Japan or Taiwan will solve this RACE problem by bringing in millions of third worlders and quote assimilating unquote with them."
"Everybody says the final solution to this RACE problem is for EVERY white country and ONLY white countries to "assimilate," i.e., intermarry, with all those non-whites."
"What if I said there was this RACE problem and this RACE problem would be solved only if hundreds of millions of non-blacks were brought into EVERY black country and ONLY into black countries?"
"How long would it take anyone to realize I'm not talking about a RACE problem. I am talking about the final solution to the BLACK problem?"
"And how long would it take any sane black man to notice this and what kind of psycho black man wouldn't object to this?"
"But if I tell that obvious truth about the ongoing program of genocide against my race, the white race, Liberals and respectable conservatives agree that I am a naziwhowantstokillsixmillionjews."
"They say they are anti-racist. What they are is anti-white."
I mean once Germanics were considered violent, mindless beasts - so much so that one tribe's ethnic name gave the world the word and concept of 'vandal'.
"The desire to rule is the mother of heresies." -- St. John Chrysostom
I am disappointed in this forum - I think DailyKos is a great forum but they are more lefty and I am more a traditionalist conservative. Still this forum is to me more like a freerepublic wannabe website - populated with Archie Bunker types - they mean well but are not sophisticated in their analysis. There are a great few exceptions of course but sadly not enough.
"The desire to rule is the mother of heresies." -- St. John Chrysostom
My posting experience tells me that when a "debate" is concluded by one poster declaring the forum is "disappointing" h/she usually was pummeled about the head and body.
What exactly is a traditional conservative and why on earth would anyone choose to self identify, given today's politics?
What exactly is a traditional conservative and why on earth would anyone choose to self identify, given today's politics?
Someone steeped in the constitution more so than identifying being conservative with being Christian or a kind of 'white' person. Also someone who is educated reading classical literature - from Homer to Pericles to Cicero to Locke and Burke to Jefferson and the Founding fathers and are not conservatives based along Rush Limbough lines.
For example being against illegal immigration is fine - I am as well - I am also for limiting legal immigration and I say this as a naturalized citizen.
But the reasons stated here are for limits because the Mexicans are wetbacks and so on - not based on rational reasoned concerns. This does not mean I am better than you or smarter - far from it - but I don't understand why what I am thinking seems complex to some or that they have not thought of this themsleves - I keep reading talk radio talking points a lot on here over independent thinking.
It is OK - i did not fit in on Freerepublic nor Libertypost - I am a hybrid - European and American so I don't think like most nativist Americans.
"The desire to rule is the mother of heresies." -- St. John Chrysostom