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Title: Are biblical spouting “patriots” head cases?
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Published: Jan 23, 2007
Author: me
Post Date: 2007-01-23 09:25:29 by Jethro Tull
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Views: 4097
Comments: 308

Yeah, they are. I’m amazed at the arrogance of some self professed “patriot” Christians. IMHO, they do more to fracture those of us who get it than any elitist agenda ever could. They are unwitting foot soldiers of the globalists.

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#98. To: Redheadedstranger (#97)

Since you’re half jackass, may I ask what the remaining 1/4 represents?

Jethro Tull  posted on  2007-01-24   22:18:57 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#99. To: Destro (#86)
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scrapper2: Catholics and Jews and mainstream Protestants and Buddhists - just about all religious leaders are big sympathizers to illegals and unbridled legal immigration generally

destro: This is what you invoke when you use that language:

You are either a. delusionary or b. unable to comprehend the English language or c. your ego is so grand that you cannot admit to a mistake. What's your point or rather what's your problem, Destro?

Please use someone else for your moralizing didactic parable. You are barking up the wrong tree with me if you think I'm going to tolerate your nonsensical comments that are totally inapplicable to me, except in your short-circuited brain.

a. I am a Catholic so like the so-called "self-loathing Jew", I have upclose experience with Catholicism and Catholics to "have the right and the knowledge" to comment on the foibles and/or pluses of the Catholic religion and its adherents. I can generalize and stereotype as much as I want because I've been there and done the walk. In fact, I still do the walk but not as regularly as my family would like.

b. My response, which you quoted out of context, was to a poster who claimed that Catholics were the main enablers of illegal immigration. My rebuttal was that most religions (apart from evangelicals) were pro immigrants and Catholics were no exception - the tenets of most religions involve looking after and looking out for the disenfranchised, the poor, the underdogs looking for a better life - all God's creatures and all that good stuff. I added that in the case of Hispanic illegals, the Catholic leadership might be more vociferous than other religious leaders because Hispanics were Catholics. Duh.

c. Catholics generally are Democrats - it's a fact of life - most Catholics were Johnny Come Later immigrants and considered second class by the WASP establishment in America until recently when Kennedy made it to the Oval Office and he did it on the Democrat ticket.

To this day the Democrat Party promotes itself as one that looks out for minorities, the immigrant and Catholicism is big on that mindset. Statistically you'd probably find more Catholics identifying themselves as Democrats no matter what their economic status like the Jews do. Of course there are exceptions to the rule but generally what I say is true.

scrapper2  posted on  2007-01-24   22:38:09 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#100. To: robin (#92)

Some of the illegals here own homes and drive nice cars. Their children, through education can reach any level of achievement they want.

Rush Limbough facts. Show one guy who made it and t hus justify a whole policy based on that - standard modern GOP thinking.

"The desire to rule is the mother of heresies." -- St. John Chrysostom

Destro  posted on  2007-01-24   22:50:51 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#101. To: Jethro Tull (#93) (Edited)

Illegal hispanics also take advantage of affirmative action

And they will get an affirmative action job how if they are illegal? Does anyone here use reason?

"The desire to rule is the mother of heresies." -- St. John Chrysostom

Destro  posted on  2007-01-24   22:51:26 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#102. To: scrapper2, robin, Jethro Tull, Redheadedstranger (#99)

Catholics generally are Democrats

"We are Republicans, and don't propose to leave our party and identify ourselves with the party whose antecedents have been Rum, Romanism, and Rebellion." - Protestant clergymen Reverend Samuel D. Burchard describing the menace of Irish Catholic immigration - 1884 presidential race - Republicans lost.

"The desire to rule is the mother of heresies." -- St. John Chrysostom

Destro  posted on  2007-01-24   22:56:52 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#103. To: Jethro Tull (#98)

ince you57;re half jackass, may I ask what the remaining 1/4 represents?

Hey, that's good, JT. Finally some real humor from you...

"How legitimate is the Onion as a source?"----noone222

Redheadedstranger  posted on  2007-01-24   22:57:40 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#104. To: Destro (#102)

Republicans lost.

barely.

"How legitimate is the Onion as a source?"----noone222

Redheadedstranger  posted on  2007-01-24   22:58:41 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#105. To: Destro (#102) (Edited)

Right, you're supporting Scrappers point. I agree with her. Many of the post Vatican II Catholics I know are socailly liberal Ds. Some vote R (my family) but they're liberal in countless other ways.

Jethro Tull  posted on  2007-01-24   23:01:11 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#106. To: Destro (#100)

No I don't listen to that slime, this is as a first hand witness.

Alien Gonzales is just one example. The Los Angeles Times had an article about one year ago describing how illegals are qualifying for mortgages now.

My family has lived in SoCal for over 120 years. We've witnessed a great deal.

The more corrupt the state, the more numerous the laws. – Tacitus

robin  posted on  2007-01-24   23:03:07 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#107. To: Redheadedstranger (#103)

I'm all about laughs, that's why I sooooooooooo want to meet you. I'll buy the first quart of Irish Rose.

Jethro Tull  posted on  2007-01-24   23:03:14 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#108. To: Redheadedstranger (#104)

By all means - if the Republicans want to again take up the war cry of "Rum, Romanism, and Rebellion" and become the Anglo-Saxon WASP Protestant party (and WASP wannabees) and attack the Catholic church once again like the good old days be my guest.

I just deregistered from the GOP and became an independent so I no longer have a vested interest in the GOP.

"The desire to rule is the mother of heresies." -- St. John Chrysostom

Destro  posted on  2007-01-24   23:04:09 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#109. To: robin (#106)

Alien Gonzales is just one example. The Los Angeles Times had an article about one year ago describing how illegals are qualifying for mortgages now.

So? You a commie? What's it to you what a bank does with its investment money and the business risk it takes by giving loans to illegals? There is no legal restriction to foreigners owning property in America.

"The desire to rule is the mother of heresies." -- St. John Chrysostom

Destro  posted on  2007-01-24   23:05:53 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#110. To: Destro (#109)

My point in bringing this up is that illegals are upwardly mobile, something you claimed they are not.

The more corrupt the state, the more numerous the laws. – Tacitus

robin  posted on  2007-01-24   23:07:46 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#111. To: Jethro Tull (#105)

Right, you're supporting Scrappers point

hardly.

"The desire to rule is the mother of heresies." -- St. John Chrysostom

Destro  posted on  2007-01-24   23:08:32 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#112. To: Jethro Tull (#107)

I'm all about laughs, that's why I sooooooooooo want to meet you. I'll buy the first quart of Irish Rose.

That's going to be one heck of a hangover.

tom007  posted on  2007-01-24   23:08:45 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#113. To: robin (#110)

My point in bringing this up is that illegals are upwardly mobile, something you claimed they are not.

Yea - I see their upward mobility lines outside of Home Depot.

They must be swimming in money cutting all that grass.

"The desire to rule is the mother of heresies." -- St. John Chrysostom

Destro  posted on  2007-01-24   23:09:45 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#114. To: Destro (#113)

Those are the illegals that just arrived yesterday. Give 'em five years. There are illegals who have been living here for decades...still illegal.

The more corrupt the state, the more numerous the laws. – Tacitus

robin  posted on  2007-01-24   23:10:42 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#115. To: robin (#114)

Those are the illegals that just arrived yesterday. Give 'em five years. There are illegals who have been living here for decades...still illegal.

They must be the rich ones. Kids in Yale already.....

"The desire to rule is the mother of heresies." -- St. John Chrysostom

Destro  posted on  2007-01-24   23:11:51 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#116. To: tom007 (#112)

You couldn't pay me enough to suffer a hangover. I'd let the redheadedcowboyhumper drink it all :)

Jethro Tull  posted on  2007-01-24   23:20:37 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#117. To: Destro (#115)

I know of a daughter of an illegal who attended Princeton. Mostly they are in local colleges. The young adults who arrive here go to night and trade schools. There is fake ID for any need.

The more corrupt the state, the more numerous the laws. – Tacitus

robin  posted on  2007-01-24   23:26:09 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#118. To: Jethro Tull (#107)

I'm all about laughs, that's why I sooooooooooo want to meet you. I'll buy the first quart of Irish Rose.

Ghey, JT, very ghey.

I drink like a Southerner.

"How legitimate is the Onion as a source?"----noone222

Redheadedstranger  posted on  2007-01-25   8:06:12 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#119. To: Redheadedstranger (#118)

I'm impressed that a man with overt brain damage can still manage to string together a series of posts, albeit unrelated and drool soaked.

Jethro Tull  posted on  2007-01-25   8:12:35 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#120. To: Jethro Tull (#119)

I'm impressed that a man with overt brain damage can still manage to string together a series of posts, albeit unrelated and drool soaked.

Lol.

You're the one who can't keep track of the conversation.

Irish Rose=Ghey.

Got it?

"How legitimate is the Onion as a source?"----noone222

Redheadedstranger  posted on  2007-01-25   8:24:04 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#121. To: Redheadedstranger, Jethro Tull (#120)

Irish Rose=Ghey.

The first person I saw spell "gay" that way is a sexually ambiguous Jew living in Mississippi.

And, everyone who copied it was a lonely boy with pitiful social skills and no lady friends to speak of.

It must be terribly lonely for you and I'm sorry for that.

But, trolling anonymously on the net is no kind of life for a man.

HOUNDDAWG  posted on  2007-01-25   9:07:13 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#122. To: HOUNDDAWG (#121)

The first person I saw spell "gay" that way is a sexually ambiguous Jew living in Mississippi.

We're taking back the language, you ignorant hound.

Gay=Merry, happy.

Ghey=homo

"How legitimate is the Onion as a source?"----noone222

Redheadedstranger  posted on  2007-01-25   9:08:34 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#123. To: HOUNDDAWG (#121)

Chill, houndy. This is your last warning. Next time, I'll unload both barrels on you.

"How legitimate is the Onion as a source?"----noone222

Redheadedstranger  posted on  2007-01-25   9:09:43 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#124. To: Redheadedstranger (#123)

Chill, houndy. This is your last warning. Next time, I'll unload both barrels on you.

Are we at the Injun whiskey again?

Bunch of internet bums ... grand jury --- opium den ! ~ byeltsin

Minerva  posted on  2007-01-25   9:30:08 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#125. To: robin (#117)

I know of a daughter of an illegal who attended Princeton. Mostly they are in local colleges. The young adults who arrive here go to night and trade schools. There is fake ID for any need.

Anecdotal evidence but you feel this is fact. So then what's the problem according to you? They seem to be assimilating well.

"The desire to rule is the mother of heresies." -- St. John Chrysostom

Destro  posted on  2007-01-25   9:31:06 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#126. To: Destro (#58)

Bluedogtxn is the only forum poster that ever got that point.

Thanks for the compliment.

the law, in its majestic equality, forbids the rich as well as the poor to sleep under bridges, beg in the streets and steal bread.

bluedogtxn  posted on  2007-01-25   9:37:24 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#127. To: Destro (#125)

It's not all or nothing. The barrios are proof they are not assimilating. First and second generation are generally not assimilated. Third generation has a chance but may not take it. There are far fewer 3rd/4th generation here, and far more 1st and 2nd.
The current problem is the tsunami of first generation that are arriving and have just arrived even during the length of this thread. Too many are committing crimes and really hate US and our culture. The prison population is testimony to that.
Having your neighborhood taken over by people who don't speak English, and have no intention of learning English is not the way to build a healthy community.
There is a street in Vista, CA that was renamed from "E. Los Angeles" after it became heavily populated with Latinos (many illegal). Really silly, it didn't change the reality.

The more corrupt the state, the more numerous the laws. – Tacitus

robin  posted on  2007-01-25   10:02:36 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#128. To: scrapper2 (#42)

I live in S. FLA. so maybe it is just my area.

http://whitakeronline.org/bobsmantra.htm

blackeagle  posted on  2007-01-25   10:23:56 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#129. To: Destro (#68)

Destro,

"Everybody says there is this RACE problem. Everybody says this RACE problem will be solved when the third world pours into EVERY white country and ONLY into white countries."

"The Netherlands and Belgium are more crowded than Japan or Taiwan, but nobody says Japan or Taiwan will solve this RACE problem by bringing in millions of third worlders and quote assimilating unquote with them."

"Everybody says the final solution to this RACE problem is for EVERY white country and ONLY white countries to "assimilate," i.e., intermarry, with all those non-whites."

"What if I said there was this RACE problem and this RACE problem would be solved only if hundreds of millions of non-blacks were brought into EVERY black country and ONLY into black countries?"

"How long would it take anyone to realize I'm not talking about a RACE problem. I am talking about the final solution to the BLACK problem?"

"And how long would it take any sane black man to notice this and what kind of psycho black man wouldn't object to this?"

"But if I tell that obvious truth about the ongoing program of genocide against my race, the white race, Liberals and respectable conservatives agree that I am a naziwhowantstokillsixmillionjews."

"They say they are anti-racist. What they are is anti-white."

"Anti-racist is a code word for anti-white."

WWW.WHITAKERONLINE.ORG

-Blackeagle

http://whitakeronline.org/bobsmantra.htm

blackeagle  posted on  2007-01-25   10:31:21 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#130. To: blackeagle (#129)

It is culture not race for me.

I mean once Germanics were considered violent, mindless beasts - so much so that one tribe's ethnic name gave the world the word and concept of 'vandal'.

"The desire to rule is the mother of heresies." -- St. John Chrysostom

Destro  posted on  2007-01-25   10:46:47 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#131. To: bluedogtxn (#126)

I am disappointed in this forum - I think DailyKos is a great forum but they are more lefty and I am more a traditionalist conservative. Still this forum is to me more like a freerepublic wannabe website - populated with Archie Bunker types - they mean well but are not sophisticated in their analysis. There are a great few exceptions of course but sadly not enough.

"The desire to rule is the mother of heresies." -- St. John Chrysostom

Destro  posted on  2007-01-25   11:04:27 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#132. To: Destro (#131)

My posting experience tells me that when a "debate" is concluded by one poster declaring the forum is "disappointing" h/she usually was pummeled about the head and body.

What exactly is a traditional conservative and why on earth would anyone choose to self identify, given today's politics?

Jethro Tull  posted on  2007-01-25   11:35:34 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#133. To: Jethro Tull (#132)

What exactly is a traditional conservative and why on earth would anyone choose to self identify, given today's politics?

Someone steeped in the constitution more so than identifying being conservative with being Christian or a kind of 'white' person. Also someone who is educated reading classical literature - from Homer to Pericles to Cicero to Locke and Burke to Jefferson and the Founding fathers and are not conservatives based along Rush Limbough lines.

For example being against illegal immigration is fine - I am as well - I am also for limiting legal immigration and I say this as a naturalized citizen.

But the reasons stated here are for limits because the Mexicans are wetbacks and so on - not based on rational reasoned concerns. This does not mean I am better than you or smarter - far from it - but I don't understand why what I am thinking seems complex to some or that they have not thought of this themsleves - I keep reading talk radio talking points a lot on here over independent thinking.

It is OK - i did not fit in on Freerepublic nor Libertypost - I am a hybrid - European and American so I don't think like most nativist Americans.

"The desire to rule is the mother of heresies." -- St. John Chrysostom

Destro  posted on  2007-01-25   11:46:07 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#134. To: Destro (#133)

But the reasons stated here are for limits because the Mexicans are wetbacks and so on - not based on rational reasoned concerns.

When they break into my country illegally, organize and assemble in many of the major cities across the country and then march under the Mexican flag in an effort to affect American law, they're wetback sons of bitches. Period, end of discussion. You can stay busy reading Plato and Homer but be very clear about our future; we're under invasion by a nationalistic people who are demanding that portions of our country be returned to them. Wetback? The word is too kind for these scum.

Jethro Tull  posted on  2007-01-25   12:14:25 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#135. To: Destro (#131)

Still this forum is to me more like a freerepublic wannabe website-- populated with Archie Bunker types - they mean well but are not sophisticated in their analysis.

mr. analysis, you really are a pompous ass. how someone who made the completely assinine claim that "fire turns steel into wet noodles" can place himself intellectually superior to everyone else on this forum is laughable.

christine  posted on  2007-01-25   12:28:51 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#136. To: Jethro Tull (#134)

Hence my need to disassociate myself with such a group - I am against illegal immigration same as you - but such sentiments expressed like that serve no purpose and don't juice up my intellect. I think the main difference is that this website is populated by people who are stirred with strong emotions over thoughts.

"The desire to rule is the mother of heresies." -- St. John Chrysostom

Destro  posted on  2007-01-25   12:28:57 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#137. To: Destro (#136)

I think the main difference is that this website is populated by people who are stirred with strong emotions

Welcome to America. If it weren't for our strong emotions we'd never have tossed the Brits out the door, and we'd all be speaking German.

Jethro Tull  posted on  2007-01-25   12:35:14 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#138. To: Destro (#136)

Hence my need to disassociate myself with such a group

Adios, pompass ass !!!

“The First Highest Masonic Council was, as we have already said, formed on 31st May 1801 in Charleston, 33 degrees northern latitude, under the chairmanship of the Jew Isaac Long, who was made inspector general by the Jew Moses Cohen, and who had received his degree from Hyes, from Franken, and the Jew Morin.”

noone222  posted on  2007-01-25   12:36:58 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  



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