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Title: Are biblical spouting “patriots” head cases?
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Published: Jan 23, 2007
Author: me
Post Date: 2007-01-23 09:25:29 by Jethro Tull
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Views: 5305
Comments: 308

Yeah, they are. I’m amazed at the arrogance of some self professed “patriot” Christians. IMHO, they do more to fracture those of us who get it than any elitist agenda ever could. They are unwitting foot soldiers of the globalists.

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#112. To: Jethro Tull (#107)

I'm all about laughs, that's why I sooooooooooo want to meet you. I'll buy the first quart of Irish Rose.

That's going to be one heck of a hangover.

tom007  posted on  2007-01-24   23:08:45 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#113. To: robin (#110)

My point in bringing this up is that illegals are upwardly mobile, something you claimed they are not.

Yea - I see their upward mobility lines outside of Home Depot.

They must be swimming in money cutting all that grass.

"The desire to rule is the mother of heresies." -- St. John Chrysostom

Destro  posted on  2007-01-24   23:09:45 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#114. To: Destro (#113)

Those are the illegals that just arrived yesterday. Give 'em five years. There are illegals who have been living here for decades...still illegal.

The more corrupt the state, the more numerous the laws. – Tacitus

robin  posted on  2007-01-24   23:10:42 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#115. To: robin (#114)

Those are the illegals that just arrived yesterday. Give 'em five years. There are illegals who have been living here for decades...still illegal.

They must be the rich ones. Kids in Yale already.....

"The desire to rule is the mother of heresies." -- St. John Chrysostom

Destro  posted on  2007-01-24   23:11:51 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#116. To: tom007 (#112)

You couldn't pay me enough to suffer a hangover. I'd let the redheadedcowboyhumper drink it all :)

Jethro Tull  posted on  2007-01-24   23:20:37 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#117. To: Destro (#115)

I know of a daughter of an illegal who attended Princeton. Mostly they are in local colleges. The young adults who arrive here go to night and trade schools. There is fake ID for any need.

The more corrupt the state, the more numerous the laws. – Tacitus

robin  posted on  2007-01-24   23:26:09 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#118. To: Jethro Tull (#107)

I'm all about laughs, that's why I sooooooooooo want to meet you. I'll buy the first quart of Irish Rose.

Ghey, JT, very ghey.

I drink like a Southerner.

"How legitimate is the Onion as a source?"----noone222

Redheadedstranger  posted on  2007-01-25   8:06:12 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#119. To: Redheadedstranger (#118)

I'm impressed that a man with overt brain damage can still manage to string together a series of posts, albeit unrelated and drool soaked.

Jethro Tull  posted on  2007-01-25   8:12:35 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#120. To: Jethro Tull (#119)

I'm impressed that a man with overt brain damage can still manage to string together a series of posts, albeit unrelated and drool soaked.

Lol.

You're the one who can't keep track of the conversation.

Irish Rose=Ghey.

Got it?

"How legitimate is the Onion as a source?"----noone222

Redheadedstranger  posted on  2007-01-25   8:24:04 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#121. To: Redheadedstranger, Jethro Tull (#120)

Irish Rose=Ghey.

The first person I saw spell "gay" that way is a sexually ambiguous Jew living in Mississippi.

And, everyone who copied it was a lonely boy with pitiful social skills and no lady friends to speak of.

It must be terribly lonely for you and I'm sorry for that.

But, trolling anonymously on the net is no kind of life for a man.

HOUNDDAWG  posted on  2007-01-25   9:07:13 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#122. To: HOUNDDAWG (#121)

The first person I saw spell "gay" that way is a sexually ambiguous Jew living in Mississippi.

We're taking back the language, you ignorant hound.

Gay=Merry, happy.

Ghey=homo

"How legitimate is the Onion as a source?"----noone222

Redheadedstranger  posted on  2007-01-25   9:08:34 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#123. To: HOUNDDAWG (#121)

Chill, houndy. This is your last warning. Next time, I'll unload both barrels on you.

"How legitimate is the Onion as a source?"----noone222

Redheadedstranger  posted on  2007-01-25   9:09:43 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#124. To: Redheadedstranger (#123)

Chill, houndy. This is your last warning. Next time, I'll unload both barrels on you.

Are we at the Injun whiskey again?

Bunch of internet bums ... grand jury --- opium den ! ~ byeltsin

Minerva  posted on  2007-01-25   9:30:08 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#125. To: robin (#117)

I know of a daughter of an illegal who attended Princeton. Mostly they are in local colleges. The young adults who arrive here go to night and trade schools. There is fake ID for any need.

Anecdotal evidence but you feel this is fact. So then what's the problem according to you? They seem to be assimilating well.

"The desire to rule is the mother of heresies." -- St. John Chrysostom

Destro  posted on  2007-01-25   9:31:06 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#126. To: Destro (#58)

Bluedogtxn is the only forum poster that ever got that point.

Thanks for the compliment.

the law, in its majestic equality, forbids the rich as well as the poor to sleep under bridges, beg in the streets and steal bread.

bluedogtxn  posted on  2007-01-25   9:37:24 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#127. To: Destro (#125)

It's not all or nothing. The barrios are proof they are not assimilating. First and second generation are generally not assimilated. Third generation has a chance but may not take it. There are far fewer 3rd/4th generation here, and far more 1st and 2nd.
The current problem is the tsunami of first generation that are arriving and have just arrived even during the length of this thread. Too many are committing crimes and really hate US and our culture. The prison population is testimony to that.
Having your neighborhood taken over by people who don't speak English, and have no intention of learning English is not the way to build a healthy community.
There is a street in Vista, CA that was renamed from "E. Los Angeles" after it became heavily populated with Latinos (many illegal). Really silly, it didn't change the reality.

The more corrupt the state, the more numerous the laws. – Tacitus

robin  posted on  2007-01-25   10:02:36 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#128. To: scrapper2 (#42)

I live in S. FLA. so maybe it is just my area.

http://whitakeronline.org/bobsmantra.htm

blackeagle  posted on  2007-01-25   10:23:56 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#129. To: Destro (#68)

Destro,

"Everybody says there is this RACE problem. Everybody says this RACE problem will be solved when the third world pours into EVERY white country and ONLY into white countries."

"The Netherlands and Belgium are more crowded than Japan or Taiwan, but nobody says Japan or Taiwan will solve this RACE problem by bringing in millions of third worlders and quote assimilating unquote with them."

"Everybody says the final solution to this RACE problem is for EVERY white country and ONLY white countries to "assimilate," i.e., intermarry, with all those non-whites."

"What if I said there was this RACE problem and this RACE problem would be solved only if hundreds of millions of non-blacks were brought into EVERY black country and ONLY into black countries?"

"How long would it take anyone to realize I'm not talking about a RACE problem. I am talking about the final solution to the BLACK problem?"

"And how long would it take any sane black man to notice this and what kind of psycho black man wouldn't object to this?"

"But if I tell that obvious truth about the ongoing program of genocide against my race, the white race, Liberals and respectable conservatives agree that I am a naziwhowantstokillsixmillionjews."

"They say they are anti-racist. What they are is anti-white."

"Anti-racist is a code word for anti-white."

WWW.WHITAKERONLINE.ORG

-Blackeagle

http://whitakeronline.org/bobsmantra.htm

blackeagle  posted on  2007-01-25   10:31:21 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#130. To: blackeagle (#129)

It is culture not race for me.

I mean once Germanics were considered violent, mindless beasts - so much so that one tribe's ethnic name gave the world the word and concept of 'vandal'.

"The desire to rule is the mother of heresies." -- St. John Chrysostom

Destro  posted on  2007-01-25   10:46:47 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#131. To: bluedogtxn (#126)

I am disappointed in this forum - I think DailyKos is a great forum but they are more lefty and I am more a traditionalist conservative. Still this forum is to me more like a freerepublic wannabe website - populated with Archie Bunker types - they mean well but are not sophisticated in their analysis. There are a great few exceptions of course but sadly not enough.

"The desire to rule is the mother of heresies." -- St. John Chrysostom

Destro  posted on  2007-01-25   11:04:27 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#132. To: Destro (#131)

My posting experience tells me that when a "debate" is concluded by one poster declaring the forum is "disappointing" h/she usually was pummeled about the head and body.

What exactly is a traditional conservative and why on earth would anyone choose to self identify, given today's politics?

Jethro Tull  posted on  2007-01-25   11:35:34 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#133. To: Jethro Tull (#132)

What exactly is a traditional conservative and why on earth would anyone choose to self identify, given today's politics?

Someone steeped in the constitution more so than identifying being conservative with being Christian or a kind of 'white' person. Also someone who is educated reading classical literature - from Homer to Pericles to Cicero to Locke and Burke to Jefferson and the Founding fathers and are not conservatives based along Rush Limbough lines.

For example being against illegal immigration is fine - I am as well - I am also for limiting legal immigration and I say this as a naturalized citizen.

But the reasons stated here are for limits because the Mexicans are wetbacks and so on - not based on rational reasoned concerns. This does not mean I am better than you or smarter - far from it - but I don't understand why what I am thinking seems complex to some or that they have not thought of this themsleves - I keep reading talk radio talking points a lot on here over independent thinking.

It is OK - i did not fit in on Freerepublic nor Libertypost - I am a hybrid - European and American so I don't think like most nativist Americans.

"The desire to rule is the mother of heresies." -- St. John Chrysostom

Destro  posted on  2007-01-25   11:46:07 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#134. To: Destro (#133)

But the reasons stated here are for limits because the Mexicans are wetbacks and so on - not based on rational reasoned concerns.

When they break into my country illegally, organize and assemble in many of the major cities across the country and then march under the Mexican flag in an effort to affect American law, they're wetback sons of bitches. Period, end of discussion. You can stay busy reading Plato and Homer but be very clear about our future; we're under invasion by a nationalistic people who are demanding that portions of our country be returned to them. Wetback? The word is too kind for these scum.

Jethro Tull  posted on  2007-01-25   12:14:25 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#135. To: Destro (#131)

Still this forum is to me more like a freerepublic wannabe website-- populated with Archie Bunker types - they mean well but are not sophisticated in their analysis.

mr. analysis, you really are a pompous ass. how someone who made the completely assinine claim that "fire turns steel into wet noodles" can place himself intellectually superior to everyone else on this forum is laughable.

christine  posted on  2007-01-25   12:28:51 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#136. To: Jethro Tull (#134)

Hence my need to disassociate myself with such a group - I am against illegal immigration same as you - but such sentiments expressed like that serve no purpose and don't juice up my intellect. I think the main difference is that this website is populated by people who are stirred with strong emotions over thoughts.

"The desire to rule is the mother of heresies." -- St. John Chrysostom

Destro  posted on  2007-01-25   12:28:57 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#137. To: Destro (#136)

I think the main difference is that this website is populated by people who are stirred with strong emotions

Welcome to America. If it weren't for our strong emotions we'd never have tossed the Brits out the door, and we'd all be speaking German.

Jethro Tull  posted on  2007-01-25   12:35:14 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#138. To: Destro (#136)

Hence my need to disassociate myself with such a group

Adios, pompass ass !!!

“The First Highest Masonic Council was, as we have already said, formed on 31st May 1801 in Charleston, 33 degrees northern latitude, under the chairmanship of the Jew Isaac Long, who was made inspector general by the Jew Moses Cohen, and who had received his degree from Hyes, from Franken, and the Jew Morin.”

noone222  posted on  2007-01-25   12:36:58 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#139. To: christine (#135)

mr. analysis, you really are a pompous ass. how someone who made the completely assinine claim that "fire turns steel into wet noodles" can place himself intellectually superior to everyone else on this forum is laughable.

Cause I work for a steel beam maker that is why - hence the need to fireproof steel.

"The desire to rule is the mother of heresies." -- St. John Chrysostom

Destro  posted on  2007-01-25   12:43:36 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#140. To: Jethro Tull (#137)

Welcome to America. If it weren't for our strong emotions we'd never have tossed the Brits out the door, and we'd all be speaking German.

Americans were already speaking German and Ducth before the Brits arrived.

So take that English as the official language nuts.

"The desire to rule is the mother of heresies." -- St. John Chrysostom

Destro  posted on  2007-01-25   12:44:37 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#141. To: noone222 (#138)

Maybe I should stick around - work some of my counter psyops magic on y'all - you know since I am a disinfo agent and all.

"The desire to rule is the mother of heresies." -- St. John Chrysostom

Destro  posted on  2007-01-25   12:45:56 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#142. To: Destro (#140)

Americans were already speaking German and Ducth before the Brits arrived

You missed the point, Plato. Why am I not surprised?

Jethro Tull  posted on  2007-01-25   12:57:21 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#143. To: Destro (#139)

yeah, yeah. fireproofing or not, you're still too arrogant to admit that was a stupid and erroneous simile.

christine  posted on  2007-01-25   13:04:57 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#144. To: christine (#143)

Then why fireproof? If steel is heat resistant like that why spend millions to fireproof?

"The desire to rule is the mother of heresies." -- St. John Chrysostom

Destro  posted on  2007-01-25   13:06:23 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#145. To: Jethro Tull (#142)

Here we have a website with not much posting on Jim Webb's rebuttal. That is sad.

"The desire to rule is the mother of heresies." -- St. John Chrysostom

Destro  posted on  2007-01-25   13:08:13 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#146. To: Destro (#101)

Does anyone here use reason?

99% of us do. There's only a small handfull that think being highly educated relates to having common sense.

No matter how noble the objectives of a government; if it blurs decency and kindness, cheapens human life, and breeds ill will and suspicion - it is an EVIL government. Eric Hoffer

innieway  posted on  2007-01-25   13:09:34 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#147. To: Destro (#133)

But the reasons stated here are for limits because the Mexicans are wetbacks and so on - not based on rational reasoned concerns. This does not mean I am better than you or smarter - far from it - but I don't understand why what I am thinking seems complex to some or that they have not thought of this themsleves - I keep reading talk radio talking points a lot on here over independent thinking.

I don't have my head stuck in tomes of literature, so my arguments are called simplistic. I don't need Locke to tell me GENOCIDE IS BAD! The simple answer is the right one.

Displacing a people against their will by flooding their lands with competing groups qualifies as a constructive section C genocide under Article 1 and 2 of the Genocide Convention of 1948.

We have a term for you here in the states, Respectable Conservative.

-Blackeagle

http://whitakeronline.org/bobsmantra.htm

blackeagle  posted on  2007-01-25   13:12:55 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#148. To: Destro (#131)

am disappointed in this forum - I think DailyKos is a great forum but they are more lefty and I am more a traditionalist conservative.

Kos is okay; but there are a lot of PC police there, and you won't find many here. It is true that lots of folks here think "multiculturalism" and "tolerance" are bad words, but I think they are more than balanced by folks like leveller, Ferret Mike, Burkeman and Aristeides, who "get it". As for the "liberal" or "conservative" thing, why pin yourself down? Conservatives used to be against foreign interventions, then they were for it, and now they are coming back to being against it. Why not just be non-interventionist and don't worry about who is doing the intervening?

Liberals used to be for big government and spending like mad, until they saw what a big government looked like when run by a bunch of nazi thugs and they watched a budget paper surplus turn into the biggest deficit in our nation's history; now they're for smaller government, less spending and fiscal responsibility. Conservatives used to stand for that stuff until they got into power, then suddenly they were all for out of control spending and fiscal irresponsibility. It's getting hard to tell the conservatives from the liberals when the liberals are complaining about the conservatives' budget recklessness.

I would suggest to you that conservative and liberal have no real meaning anymore, unless you adopt the dictionary definitions; which then will draw you a bunch of fire from people who cling to the labels as indicative of political party in some way.

the law, in its majestic equality, forbids the rich as well as the poor to sleep under bridges, beg in the streets and steal bread.

bluedogtxn  posted on  2007-01-25   13:22:36 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#149. To: bluedogtxn (#148)

Conservatives like me oppose foreign intervention, big government, increased spending and lack of fiscal responsibility unless the GOP is doing it.

"I gave myself a Hummer. (chuckle)"

Badeye After Five  posted on  2007-01-25   13:29:22 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#150. To: bluedogtxn (#148)

Kos is okay; but there are a lot of PC police there

I agree - that is a problem with the left - PC.

"The desire to rule is the mother of heresies." -- St. John Chrysostom

Destro  posted on  2007-01-25   13:51:00 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#151. To: Destro (#145)

Here we have a website with not much posting on Jim Webb's rebuttal

Jim Webb lost any credibility he might have had once he was selected by the elite. Honest elections are a Jeffersonian-thought lost to history.

Jethro Tull  posted on  2007-01-25   13:53:16 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#152. To: Destro (#144)

Then why fireproof? If steel is heat resistant like that why spend millions to fireproof?

"Heat resistant" is a tricky term. Steel is NOT heat resistant, per se. Since steel is a good conductor it will absorb heat...

BUT, it is also capable of absorbing a certain amount of heat without weakening any substantial amount. In the case of structural steel, this point is 540° C, which relates to 1004° F. Steel expands when heated, and once enough energy has been absorbed, it softens and loses its structural integrity. This is easily prevented through the use of fireproofing, which prevents the steel from absorbing enough energy to reach this temperature.

Was the structural steel used in the Trade Center buildings NOT fireproofed? Admittedly, there was no doubt some damage to the fireproofing of some of the structural steel caused by the impact itself, however this damage would have been limited to the area of the impact. So what happened to the fireproofing throughout the rest of the buildings unaffected by the impact? Not to mention that there is no way on earth that fires were rampant throughout the entire structures from the ground all the way to the impact zone, thus resulting in ZERO compromise of the steel in those areas (which is far more area then the "compromised" areas).

A514 is primarily used as a structural steel for building construction. The tensile yield strength of A514 alloys is specified as at least 100 ksi (690 MPa) for thicknesses up to 2.5 inch (64 mm) thick plate, and at least 110 ksi (760 MPa) ultimate tensile strength, with a specified ultimate range of 110–130 ksi (760–900 MPa). Plates from 2.5 to 6.0 inches (64 to 152 mm) thick have specified strength of 90 ksi (620 MPa) (yield) and 110–130 ksi (760–900 MPa) (ultimate). Engineers in North America usually use units of ksi which is a thousand psi, thus we're talking about steel with a base tensile strength of between 90,000 psi and 130,000 psi depending on thickness. Tensile strength is measured as a "pulling force", NOT a "compressing force". Imagine what kind of strength this steel has in resistance to compression!!! A "real world" example is that a 200 lb man can stand on an empty beer can (which is made from aluminum with very low tensile strength compared to A514, not to mention very thin aluminum at that) without crushing it. Now Mr "I'm a base of knowledge and common sense, and the 'official story of the collapses is plausible'" - tell me what force would be more in play upon the vertical steel in the collapse of the buildings, would it be "compression" or would it be "pulling"??? If it were "pulling" they would have fell upwards against gravity and into the sky. BUT I don't give a damn what forces are present, any integrity whatsoever in the vertical columns would present resistance to the effects of gravity in the collapses, and thus make it PHYSICALLY IMPOSSIBLE for the collapses to happen all the way to the ground at freefall speed!!!!! Thus by necessity, structural integrity had to be eliminated all the way to the ground for these collapses to happen in the time frame they happened! Perhaps it would behoove you to take some physics classes and study Newton's laws of motion and inertia.

I've said it before, and I'll say it again - when it comes to common sense, Rudyard Kipling had it right when he penned:
"Common sense is very uncommon. Common sense is in spite of, not as a result of education. Common sense is instinct, and enough is genius. Nothing is more fairly distributed than common sense: no one thinks he need more of it than he already has. Common sense is the knack of seeing things as they are, and doing things as they ought to be done."

Getting on this forum and spouting that the majority of posters here are incapable of rational thought (which begins with common sense) is truly the pot calling the kettle black. Remember the old saying "The guilty dog barks first."???

No matter how noble the objectives of a government; if it blurs decency and kindness, cheapens human life, and breeds ill will and suspicion - it is an EVIL government. Eric Hoffer

innieway  posted on  2007-01-25   14:39:25 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  



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