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Title: Are biblical spouting “patriots” head cases?
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Published: Jan 23, 2007
Author: me
Post Date: 2007-01-23 09:25:29 by Jethro Tull
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Yeah, they are. I’m amazed at the arrogance of some self professed “patriot” Christians. IMHO, they do more to fracture those of us who get it than any elitist agenda ever could. They are unwitting foot soldiers of the globalists.
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#124. To: Redheadedstranger (#123)
Are we at the Injun whiskey again?
Bunch of internet bums ... grand jury --- opium den ! ~ byeltsin
Anecdotal evidence but you feel this is fact. So then what's the problem according to you? They seem to be assimilating well.
"The desire to rule is the mother of heresies." -- St. John Chrysostom
Thanks for the compliment.
the law, in its majestic equality, forbids the rich as well as the poor to sleep under bridges, beg in the streets and steal bread.
It's not all or nothing. The barrios are proof they are not assimilating. First and second generation are generally not assimilated. Third generation has a chance but may not take it. There are far fewer 3rd/4th generation here, and far more 1st and 2nd. The more corrupt the state, the more numerous the laws. – Tacitus
I live in S. FLA. so maybe it is just my area.
http://whitakeronline.org/bobsmantra.htm
Destro, "Everybody says there is this RACE problem. Everybody says this RACE problem will be solved when the third world pours into EVERY white country and ONLY into white countries." "The Netherlands and Belgium are more crowded than Japan or Taiwan, but nobody says Japan or Taiwan will solve this RACE problem by bringing in millions of third worlders and quote assimilating unquote with them." "Everybody says the final solution to this RACE problem is for EVERY white country and ONLY white countries to "assimilate," i.e., intermarry, with all those non-whites." "What if I said there was this RACE problem and this RACE problem would be solved only if hundreds of millions of non-blacks were brought into EVERY black country and ONLY into black countries?" "How long would it take anyone to realize I'm not talking about a RACE problem. I am talking about the final solution to the BLACK problem?" "And how long would it take any sane black man to notice this and what kind of psycho black man wouldn't object to this?" "But if I tell that obvious truth about the ongoing program of genocide against my race, the white race, Liberals and respectable conservatives agree that I am a naziwhowantstokillsixmillionjews." "They say they are anti-racist. What they are is anti-white." "Anti-racist is a code word for anti-white." WWW.WHITAKERONLINE.ORG -Blackeagle
http://whitakeronline.org/bobsmantra.htm
It is culture not race for me. I mean once Germanics were considered violent, mindless beasts - so much so that one tribe's ethnic name gave the world the word and concept of 'vandal'.
"The desire to rule is the mother of heresies." -- St. John Chrysostom
I am disappointed in this forum - I think DailyKos is a great forum but they are more lefty and I am more a traditionalist conservative. Still this forum is to me more like a freerepublic wannabe website - populated with Archie Bunker types - they mean well but are not sophisticated in their analysis. There are a great few exceptions of course but sadly not enough.
"The desire to rule is the mother of heresies." -- St. John Chrysostom
My posting experience tells me that when a "debate" is concluded by one poster declaring the forum is "disappointing" h/she usually was pummeled about the head and body. What exactly is a traditional conservative and why on earth would anyone choose to self identify, given today's politics?
Someone steeped in the constitution more so than identifying being conservative with being Christian or a kind of 'white' person. Also someone who is educated reading classical literature - from Homer to Pericles to Cicero to Locke and Burke to Jefferson and the Founding fathers and are not conservatives based along Rush Limbough lines. For example being against illegal immigration is fine - I am as well - I am also for limiting legal immigration and I say this as a naturalized citizen. But the reasons stated here are for limits because the Mexicans are wetbacks and so on - not based on rational reasoned concerns. This does not mean I am better than you or smarter - far from it - but I don't understand why what I am thinking seems complex to some or that they have not thought of this themsleves - I keep reading talk radio talking points a lot on here over independent thinking. It is OK - i did not fit in on Freerepublic nor Libertypost - I am a hybrid - European and American so I don't think like most nativist Americans.
"The desire to rule is the mother of heresies." -- St. John Chrysostom
When they break into my country illegally, organize and assemble in many of the major cities across the country and then march under the Mexican flag in an effort to affect American law, they're wetback sons of bitches. Period, end of discussion. You can stay busy reading Plato and Homer but be very clear about our future; we're under invasion by a nationalistic people who are demanding that portions of our country be returned to them. Wetback? The word is too kind for these scum.
mr. analysis, you really are a pompous ass. how someone who made the completely assinine claim that "fire turns steel into wet noodles" can place himself intellectually superior to everyone else on this forum is laughable.
Hence my need to disassociate myself with such a group - I am against illegal immigration same as you - but such sentiments expressed like that serve no purpose and don't juice up my intellect. I think the main difference is that this website is populated by people who are stirred with strong emotions over thoughts.
"The desire to rule is the mother of heresies." -- St. John Chrysostom
Welcome to America. If it weren't for our strong emotions we'd never have tossed the Brits out the door, and we'd all be speaking German.
Adios, pompass ass !!!
“The First Highest Masonic Council was, as we have already said, formed on 31st May 1801 in Charleston, 33 degrees northern latitude, under the chairmanship of the Jew Isaac Long, who was made inspector general by the Jew Moses Cohen, and who had received his degree from Hyes, from Franken, and the Jew Morin.”
Cause I work for a steel beam maker that is why - hence the need to fireproof steel.
"The desire to rule is the mother of heresies." -- St. John Chrysostom
Americans were already speaking German and Ducth before the Brits arrived. So take that English as the official language nuts.
"The desire to rule is the mother of heresies." -- St. John Chrysostom
Maybe I should stick around - work some of my counter psyops magic on y'all - you know since I am a disinfo agent and all.
"The desire to rule is the mother of heresies." -- St. John Chrysostom
You missed the point, Plato. Why am I not surprised?
yeah, yeah. fireproofing or not, you're still too arrogant to admit that was a stupid and erroneous simile.
Then why fireproof? If steel is heat resistant like that why spend millions to fireproof?
"The desire to rule is the mother of heresies." -- St. John Chrysostom
Here we have a website with not much posting on Jim Webb's rebuttal. That is sad.
"The desire to rule is the mother of heresies." -- St. John Chrysostom
99% of us do. There's only a small handfull that think being highly educated relates to having common sense.
No matter how noble the objectives of a government; if it blurs decency and kindness, cheapens human life, and breeds ill will and suspicion - it is an EVIL government. Eric Hoffer
I don't have my head stuck in tomes of literature, so my arguments are called simplistic. I don't need Locke to tell me GENOCIDE IS BAD! The simple answer is the right one. Displacing a people against their will by flooding their lands with competing groups qualifies as a constructive section C genocide under Article 1 and 2 of the Genocide Convention of 1948. We have a term for you here in the states, Respectable Conservative. -Blackeagle
http://whitakeronline.org/bobsmantra.htm
Kos is okay; but there are a lot of PC police there, and you won't find many here. It is true that lots of folks here think "multiculturalism" and "tolerance" are bad words, but I think they are more than balanced by folks like leveller, Ferret Mike, Burkeman and Aristeides, who "get it". As for the "liberal" or "conservative" thing, why pin yourself down? Conservatives used to be against foreign interventions, then they were for it, and now they are coming back to being against it. Why not just be non-interventionist and don't worry about who is doing the intervening? Liberals used to be for big government and spending like mad, until they saw what a big government looked like when run by a bunch of nazi thugs and they watched a budget paper surplus turn into the biggest deficit in our nation's history; now they're for smaller government, less spending and fiscal responsibility. Conservatives used to stand for that stuff until they got into power, then suddenly they were all for out of control spending and fiscal irresponsibility. It's getting hard to tell the conservatives from the liberals when the liberals are complaining about the conservatives' budget recklessness. I would suggest to you that conservative and liberal have no real meaning anymore, unless you adopt the dictionary definitions; which then will draw you a bunch of fire from people who cling to the labels as indicative of political party in some way.
the law, in its majestic equality, forbids the rich as well as the poor to sleep under bridges, beg in the streets and steal bread.
Conservatives like me oppose foreign intervention, big government, increased spending and lack of fiscal responsibility unless the GOP is doing it.
"I gave myself a Hummer. (chuckle)"
I agree - that is a problem with the left - PC.
"The desire to rule is the mother of heresies." -- St. John Chrysostom
Jim Webb lost any credibility he might have had once he was selected by the elite. Honest elections are a Jeffersonian-thought lost to history.
"Heat resistant" is a tricky term. Steel is NOT heat resistant, per se. Since steel is a good conductor it will absorb heat... BUT, it is also capable of absorbing a certain amount of heat without weakening any substantial amount. In the case of structural steel, this point is 540° C, which relates to 1004° F. Steel expands when heated, and once enough energy has been absorbed, it softens and loses its structural integrity. This is easily prevented through the use of fireproofing, which prevents the steel from absorbing enough energy to reach this temperature. Was the structural steel used in the Trade Center buildings NOT fireproofed? Admittedly, there was no doubt some damage to the fireproofing of some of the structural steel caused by the impact itself, however this damage would have been limited to the area of the impact. So what happened to the fireproofing throughout the rest of the buildings unaffected by the impact? Not to mention that there is no way on earth that fires were rampant throughout the entire structures from the ground all the way to the impact zone, thus resulting in ZERO compromise of the steel in those areas (which is far more area then the "compromised" areas). A514 is primarily used as a structural steel for building construction. The tensile yield strength of A514 alloys is specified as at least 100 ksi (690 MPa) for thicknesses up to 2.5 inch (64 mm) thick plate, and at least 110 ksi (760 MPa) ultimate tensile strength, with a specified ultimate range of 110–130 ksi (760–900 MPa). Plates from 2.5 to 6.0 inches (64 to 152 mm) thick have specified strength of 90 ksi (620 MPa) (yield) and 110–130 ksi (760–900 MPa) (ultimate). Engineers in North America usually use units of ksi which is a thousand psi, thus we're talking about steel with a base tensile strength of between 90,000 psi and 130,000 psi depending on thickness. Tensile strength is measured as a "pulling force", NOT a "compressing force". Imagine what kind of strength this steel has in resistance to compression!!! A "real world" example is that a 200 lb man can stand on an empty beer can (which is made from aluminum with very low tensile strength compared to A514, not to mention very thin aluminum at that) without crushing it. Now Mr "I'm a base of knowledge and common sense, and the 'official story of the collapses is plausible'" - tell me what force would be more in play upon the vertical steel in the collapse of the buildings, would it be "compression" or would it be "pulling"??? If it were "pulling" they would have fell upwards against gravity and into the sky. BUT I don't give a damn what forces are present, any integrity whatsoever in the vertical columns would present resistance to the effects of gravity in the collapses, and thus make it PHYSICALLY IMPOSSIBLE for the collapses to happen all the way to the ground at freefall speed!!!!! Thus by necessity, structural integrity had to be eliminated all the way to the ground for these collapses to happen in the time frame they happened! Perhaps it would behoove you to take some physics classes and study Newton's laws of motion and inertia. I've said it before, and I'll say it again - when it comes to common sense, Rudyard Kipling had it right when he penned: Getting on this forum and spouting that the majority of posters here are incapable of rational thought (which begins with common sense) is truly the pot calling the kettle black. Remember the old saying "The guilty dog barks first."???
No matter how noble the objectives of a government; if it blurs decency and kindness, cheapens human life, and breeds ill will and suspicion - it is an EVIL government. Eric Hoffer
The steel to the Freedom tower is by my firm - I work with the world's leading metallurgists - they agree with the offical conclusions that the fire and impact damage to the steel beams caused the failure. They are also French citizens and have no love for Bush's America so they are not biased pro- Bushies.
"The desire to rule is the mother of heresies." -- St. John Chrysostom
I think I realized the problem I am having with this forum. This forum is not a place where you go to get info hashed out and get a call to action going. This is a gripe fest - a place to vent only. It is a crank session by cranky people. Daily Kos at least despite the political deviations I have with that forum does have a call to action and a place to hash opinions for the purposes of informing. So I guess I will be looking for a place where traditionalists like myself can go. By the way - I was never enamored with what the Democratic party became - they were taken hostage by some annoying leftists groups the last generation. If the Democrats become more like Senator Jim Webb then I will accept their candidates. I just resigned from the GOP and became a registered independent. The only contact I have had with the rank and file of the GOP have been in forums - I don't discuss politics in my personal life much - and to be honest I have found the current crop of forum dwelling GOP conservatives to be disturbing nuts. I only populated the forums as an attempt to advocate for the Serbian people against America's illegal war on them. I think I did some good work in supporting the Serbian people and getting the truth out on Freerepublic. But I don't have common cause with the Black Helicopter-flouride in our water type of 'conservative'.
"The desire to rule is the mother of heresies." -- St. John Chrysostom
There are probably under 80 regular posters here. How much stimulating cross-discussion do you expect on a forum that could hold all its members in the banquet hall of a Vermont Knights of Columbus?
And why are they not posting on Jim Webb? Lots of posts about the illuminati though....
"The desire to rule is the mother of heresies." -- St. John Chrysostom
I can't speak for anyone else, but I'm not commenting on it because it was a career politician's response to another politician who was a failure in private life. It's carnival barker noise at the dog and pony show. I've given up on silly things like faith in the Machine righting itself if it only had the right personnel and Constitutions are anything more than mere paper I don't post on Illuminati nonsense much either unless it's to poke fun.
A noble cause. I wish you well in your continued respectability.
Are there any Jewish sheeple?
Firstly, several of us here posted quite abit about Jim Webb when he was running against Allen in November - long threads actually - I don't recall your getting involved in those discussions. But a couple of months ago, Webb wasn't a trendy household name as he is today after his rebuttal to the State of the Union speech. Secondly before Webb's rebuttal speech and before you announced you independent registration status to all, there was a discussion thread about possible Presidential candidates and some of us then pointed out that Webb might make a good candidate to run for the Oval Office as an Independent because the Democrats would need to become more centrist to keep him and the GOP would need to lose the neocons and become more paleo dominated as before to attract him back - and some of us (hint: it wasn't you ) - noted that Webb was a rising star to be watched closely. Thirdly, some of the good discussions about Webb's speech got hidden in the SOTU thread. You weren't on that thread as I recall. Fourthly, what exactly have you contributed of note in the way of article postings to stimulate discussion about Webb that you so obviously want? Nada, zero. The last article you contributed to this forum as I recall was something about Israel and Russia in November. Fifthly quit your bitching about illumanati articles and instead of picking up your marbles and walking away, roll up your sleeves and do some research and post some articles that would make for a different more realist take on politics. I'm with you. I am not much for the illuminati articles - they're not my cup of tea - so I don't post on those threads - it doesn't bother me that others do - I do something more concrete, I actually post articles and post to threads I am interested in. Maybe you should do the same - there's room for everybody's political bent on this forum - Christine hardly ever exercises her moderator censorship rights except for vanity threads that are out of control and burying real news articles and discussions. So apply the advice you give to others about "doing concrete things" and start researching and posting articles on subjects you want discussion and opinions on. Here's something that you can take as your own articles about Webb and his qualities to post for further discussion - I was thinking of doing it yesterday but I got called away from home: http://www.thenation.com/blogs/notion?bid=15&pid=160126 "Webb for President?" Posted 01/24/2007 @ 1:34pm by Ari Berman AND http://www.thenation.com/doc/ 20061023/moser "Virginia's Rumbling Rebels" posted October 8, 2006 (October 23, 2006 issue) By Bob Moser Go for it, Destro, and show us the way. I'd love to post to such a thread and so would others, I'm sure.
If not enough things are being posted from your point of view, then go find them and post them. If you want to see things hashed out, then talk about those things in a courteous and respectful way, and invite comment. No forum is free of idiots, including this one. No forum is free of prejudice, including this one. If you are lucky, you will find one or two kindred souls in a place like this with whom you like to share thoughts and whose opinions you respect. I've been fortunate here because I've encountered highly intelligent people whose opinions matter to me. If your experience has not been such, then you should look for a forum that pleases you. As for the Serbian people and their victimization, you can be assured that you will find a more sympathetic audience here than probably anywhere else. If that's your trick and you are a one trick pony, then this is the place you will feel welcome. If you are a holocaust denier, you will find an open forum here where you can post that silliness and not be laughed right off the screen. That's because christine welcomes pretty much any views and demands only that we treat each other with respect and some fundamental courtesy. On a day to day basis there are days when nobody's posting anything here that grabs my attention. On other days I can't stay away from my keyboard. I'm not generally censored here (like I have been on Kos, DU, and LP); and that is important to me. Sometimes I see crap posted here that deeply offends me. I usually choose not to respond to it. Freedom means sometimes hearing shit that pisses you off. What I can tell you is that reading a really well-written Burkeman or Leveller post is worth a whole day's worth of wading through crap, at least to me. But that's just me. Your experience may vary, and no warranties are made. If you go to a party or a bar, do you expect to like everyone there? At school did you like everyone in your class? Or did you, like most of us, find a few good friends and a few respectful acquaintances, and the rest of the folks there you could hardly give a shit about? Why would you expect a political forum to be any different? The majority of people in the world are vacuous, shallow, and poorly educated. Occasionally you will find someone who is much smarter and more critical. On this site you will find the proportion of smarties to idiots is pretty good; but that doesn't mean there are no idiots. Your post reminds me of my brother in law. He married his high school sweetheart and she was really fantastic. Smart, beautiful, accomodating, kind, seriously a real catch. But his marriage wasn't "perfect" and he wasn't "perfectly happy", so he got a divorce. It was his misfortune to grab the brass ring on his first go round the merry-go-round, so he never understood (until much too late) how good he'd had it. You aren't going to find perfection on any site. But good hunting.
the law, in its majestic equality, forbids the rich as well as the poor to sleep under bridges, beg in the streets and steal bread.
Well. One does have to make allowances for short time preferences.
Are there any Jewish sheeple?
Sorry, I don't get what you mean. I try to cut back my coffee consumption as a New Year's resolution and there's the result - intellectual slow down. Would you please clarify your remark? I'm getting another cup of coffee too.
I have the opposite problem. Too little sleep, too much adrenaline. I've got a father-second-time-over fugue on. So no.
Are there any Jewish sheeple?
thanks, bluedog. that was very well articulated.
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Top • Page Up • Full Thread • Page Down • Bottom/LatestChill, houndy. This is your last warning. Next time, I'll unload both barrels on you.
#125. To: robin (#117)
I know of a daughter of an illegal who attended Princeton. Mostly they are in local colleges. The young adults who arrive here go to night and trade schools. There is fake ID for any need.
#126. To: Destro (#58)
Bluedogtxn is the only forum poster that ever got that point.
#127. To: Destro (#125)
The current problem is the tsunami of first generation that are arriving and have just arrived even during the length of this thread. Too many are committing crimes and really hate US and our culture. The prison population is testimony to that.
Having your neighborhood taken over by people who don't speak English, and have no intention of learning English is not the way to build a healthy community.
There is a street in Vista, CA that was renamed from "E. Los Angeles" after it became heavily populated with Latinos (many illegal). Really silly, it didn't change the reality.
#128. To: scrapper2 (#42)
#129. To: Destro (#68)
#130. To: blackeagle (#129)
#131. To: bluedogtxn (#126)
#132. To: Destro (#131)
#133. To: Jethro Tull (#132)
What exactly is a traditional conservative and why on earth would anyone choose to self identify, given today's politics?
#134. To: Destro (#133)
But the reasons stated here are for limits because the Mexicans are wetbacks and so on - not based on rational reasoned concerns.
#135. To: Destro (#131)
Still this forum is to me more like a freerepublic wannabe website-- populated with Archie Bunker types - they mean well but are not sophisticated in their analysis.
#136. To: Jethro Tull (#134)
#137. To: Destro (#136)
I think the main difference is that this website is populated by people who are stirred with strong emotions
#138. To: Destro (#136)
Hence my need to disassociate myself with such a group
#139. To: christine (#135)
mr. analysis, you really are a pompous ass. how someone who made the completely assinine claim that "fire turns steel into wet noodles" can place himself intellectually superior to everyone else on this forum is laughable.
#140. To: Jethro Tull (#137)
Welcome to America. If it weren't for our strong emotions we'd never have tossed the Brits out the door, and we'd all be speaking German.
#141. To: noone222 (#138)
#142. To: Destro (#140)
Americans were already speaking German and Ducth before the Brits arrived
#143. To: Destro (#139)
#144. To: christine (#143)
#145. To: Jethro Tull (#142)
#146. To: Destro (#101)
Does anyone here use reason?
#147. To: Destro (#133)
But the reasons stated here are for limits because the Mexicans are wetbacks and so on - not based on rational reasoned concerns. This does not mean I am better than you or smarter - far from it - but I don't understand why what I am thinking seems complex to some or that they have not thought of this themsleves - I keep reading talk radio talking points a lot on here over independent thinking.
#148. To: Destro (#131)
am disappointed in this forum - I think DailyKos is a great forum but they are more lefty and I am more a traditionalist conservative.
#149. To: bluedogtxn (#148)
#150. To: bluedogtxn (#148)
Kos is okay; but there are a lot of PC police there
#151. To: Destro (#145)
Here we have a website with not much posting on Jim Webb's rebuttal
#152. To: Destro (#144)
Then why fireproof? If steel is heat resistant like that why spend millions to fireproof?
"Common sense is very uncommon. Common sense is in spite of, not as a result of education. Common sense is instinct, and enough is genius. Nothing is more fairly distributed than common sense: no one thinks he need more of it than he already has. Common sense is the knack of seeing things as they are, and doing things as they ought to be done."
#153. To: innieway (#152)
#154. To: bluedogtxn (#148)
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#155. To: Destro (#145)
Here we have a website with not much posting on Jim Webb's rebuttal. That is sad.
#156. To: SmokinOPs (#155)
There are probably under 80 regular posters here.
#157. To: Destro (#156)
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And why are they not posting on Jim Webb? Lots of posts about the illuminati though....
#158. To: Destro (#154)
I only populated the forums as an attempt to advocate for the Serbian people against America's illegal war on them.
#159. To: Destro, christine, robin, Jethro Tull, bluedogtxn, aristeides, Burkeman1, Brian S, swarthy guy, angle, randge, SmokinOPs, HOUNDDAWG, tauzero, tom007, Fred Mertz (#156)
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And why are they not posting on Jim Webb? Lots of posts about the illuminati though....
#160. To: Destro, christine, all (#154)
I think I realized the problem I am having with this forum.
#161. To: scrapper2 (#159)
#162. To: Tauzero (#161)
Well. One does have to make allowances for short time preferences.
#163. To: scrapper2 (#162)
#164. To: bluedogtxn (#160)
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