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Title: Are biblical spouting “patriots” head cases?
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Published: Jan 23, 2007
Author: me
Post Date: 2007-01-23 09:25:29 by Jethro Tull
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Comments: 308

Yeah, they are. I’m amazed at the arrogance of some self professed “patriot” Christians. IMHO, they do more to fracture those of us who get it than any elitist agenda ever could. They are unwitting foot soldiers of the globalists.

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#1. To: Jethro Tull (#0) (Edited)

Those who use biblical prophecy especially those that insert 'Ezekiel' into their forum responses to explain today's events need to be stoned with big rocks.

Destro  posted on  2007-01-23   9:34:08 ET  Reply   Untrace   Trace   Private Reply  

With what they say is going to happen to everyone else, you're letting them off easy.

My vote goes for burned at the stake... in the name of Mercy.

-Blackeagle

blackeagle  posted on  2007-01-23   9:43:56 ET  Reply   Untrace   Trace   Private Reply  

My vote goes for burned at the stake... in the name of Mercy.

YES! And don't forget a book burning (please include all the versions they squabble over)

Jethro Tull  posted on  2007-01-23   9:47:55 ET  Reply   Untrace   Trace   Private Reply  

I'm tired of their petty squabbles, but I really don't want to burn a Bible.

What I think would be even worse is the knowledge that their ashes would be buried with a Koran.

-Blackeagle

blackeagle  posted on  2007-01-23   9:57:11 ET  Reply   Untrace   Trace   Private Reply  

but I really don't want to burn a Bible.

Well, with these head cases it all depends on *which* bible is burnt. Apparently there are different versions and only THEY know the one which is real. As I said, they exhibit overt mental illness.

Jethro Tull  posted on  2007-01-23   10:01:43 ET  Reply   Untrace   Trace   Private Reply  

You're right, it is a severe mental illness.

I used to be a Catholic. The scandals, the money grubbing preists, but mostly the people drove me away. I couldnt take the "if god wills it" mentality. The smile in my face on Sunday spit on me Monday acts.

Why just this Sunday the church handed out petitions for an amendment to the Florida constitution banning embryonic stem cell research from public money. Like good sheep everyone signed it.

I hate dealing with religious nuts across the board.

-Blackeagle

blackeagle  posted on  2007-01-23   10:42:00 ET  Reply   Untrace   Trace   Private Reply  

I used to be a Catholic. The scandals, the money grubbing preists, but mostly the people drove me away. I couldnt take the "if god wills it" mentality. The smile in my face on Sunday spit on me Monday acts.

To: Jethro Tull You're right, it is a severe mental illness.

I used to be a Catholic. The scandals, the money grubbing preists, but mostly the people drove me away. I couldnt take the "if god wills it" mentality. The smile in my face on Sunday spit on me Monday acts.

Why just this Sunday the church handed out petitions for an amendment to the Florida constitution banning embryonic stem cell research from public money. Like good sheep everyone signed it.

I hate dealing with religious nuts across the board.

The Catholics you describe are more the exception than the mainstream, unless the church has turned into some kind of holy roller hang out since I was last there as a "regular."

I'm not sure what state you live in - if it's a Southern state maybe the Catholics got infected with the Bible Belt disease or something - but the Catholics I've known and my family are all practising Catholics except for me are pretty average people -flawed and not holier than thou- they definitely don't press their religion on strangers nor do they wear their religion on their sleeve like a badge of merit. And Catholics are not too terribly political - in fact, with their numbers, they could be far more political if they chose.

As for priests molesters - that was very ugly - but the percentage of priests who molested was similar to other church's clerics or so I've read - what was bad was the Catholic church tried to cover it up. Also the priest molestation thingie was primarily isolated to American Catholic churches for some peculiar reason.

As for money grubbing priests - the Catholic church is no different from other religions and certainly no worse than most.

scrapper2  posted on  2007-01-24   11:57:55 ET  Reply   Untrace   Trace   Private Reply  

but the Catholics I've known and my family are all practising Catholics except for me are pretty average people -flawed and not holier than thou- they definitely don't press their religion on strangers nor do they wear their religion on their sleeve like a badge of merit. And Catholics are not too terribly political - in fact, with their numbers, they could be far more political if they chose.

I'm in the same boat as you, scrapper. What got me started on this rant is the outright hatred some otherwise kindred spirits have toward anything Catholic. The Catholics I know would stand with us on most issues, while never discussing religion. Who and what people choose to hold close is their business. IMHO, some people in this community of ours place religion and obscure conspiracies over the current events that are actively altering our culture and country. They divide rather than unify, and I find it impossible to keep quiet.

Jethro Tull  posted on  2007-01-24   14:33:34 ET  Reply   Untrace   Trace   Private Reply  

Catholics are one of the leading enablers of illegal immigration, JT. Them and evangelicals.

Redheadedstranger  posted on  2007-01-24   14:36:33 ET  Reply   Untrace   Trace   Private Reply  

Any Catholic who enables illegal immigration should be Saddam'ed. The same holds for anyone else including all those WASPS in the CFR who are driving this mess with their "Building a North American Community."

Jethro Tull  posted on  2007-01-24   14:46:08 ET  Reply   Untrace   Trace   Private Reply  

So are godless libertarians

I remember arguing with the big "L" libertarians on tFR years ago. They adored open borders and free trade. Total fruitcakes, who haven't the balls to engage in debate.

Jethro Tull  posted on  2007-01-24   14:48:04 ET  Reply   Untrace   Trace   Private Reply  

Who is for or against open borders is not cut and dried.

While I am against open borders - my reasons are not the same as those of others - my reasons being logical and rational while most of the other types want to close the border because of racial and religious reasons.

In other words I am against open immigration for economic reasons more so than cultural ones. Those that argue cultural reasons are playing with a losing hand/argument and thus those are the types the media highlights.

Bluedogtxn is the only forum poster that ever got that point.

Destro  posted on  2007-01-24   15:14:50 ET  Reply   Untrace   Trace   Private Reply  

Bluedogtxn is the only forum poster that ever got that point.

Thanks for the compliment.

bluedogtxn  posted on  2007-01-25   9:37:24 ET  Reply   Untrace   Trace   Private Reply  

I am disappointed in this forum - I think DailyKos is a great forum but they are more lefty and I am more a traditionalist conservative. Still this forum is to me more like a freerepublic wannabe website - populated with Archie Bunker types - they mean well but are not sophisticated in their analysis. There are a great few exceptions of course but sadly not enough.

Destro  posted on  2007-01-25   11:04:27 ET  Reply   Untrace   Trace   Private Reply  

am disappointed in this forum - I think DailyKos is a great forum but they are more lefty and I am more a traditionalist conservative.

Kos is okay; but there are a lot of PC police there, and you won't find many here. It is true that lots of folks here think "multiculturalism" and "tolerance" are bad words, but I think they are more than balanced by folks like leveller, Ferret Mike, Burkeman and Aristeides, who "get it". As for the "liberal" or "conservative" thing, why pin yourself down? Conservatives used to be against foreign interventions, then they were for it, and now they are coming back to being against it. Why not just be non-interventionist and don't worry about who is doing the intervening?

Liberals used to be for big government and spending like mad, until they saw what a big government looked like when run by a bunch of nazi thugs and they watched a budget paper surplus turn into the biggest deficit in our nation's history; now they're for smaller government, less spending and fiscal responsibility. Conservatives used to stand for that stuff until they got into power, then suddenly they were all for out of control spending and fiscal irresponsibility. It's getting hard to tell the conservatives from the liberals when the liberals are complaining about the conservatives' budget recklessness.

I would suggest to you that conservative and liberal have no real meaning anymore, unless you adopt the dictionary definitions; which then will draw you a bunch of fire from people who cling to the labels as indicative of political party in some way.

bluedogtxn  posted on  2007-01-25   13:22:36 ET  Reply   Untrace   Trace   Private Reply  

I think I realized the problem I am having with this forum.

This forum is not a place where you go to get info hashed out and get a call to action going.

This is a gripe fest - a place to vent only. It is a crank session by cranky people.

Daily Kos at least despite the political deviations I have with that forum does have a call to action and a place to hash opinions for the purposes of informing.

So I guess I will be looking for a place where traditionalists like myself can go.

By the way - I was never enamored with what the Democratic party became - they were taken hostage by some annoying leftists groups the last generation. If the Democrats become more like Senator Jim Webb then I will accept their candidates.

I just resigned from the GOP and became a registered independent.

The only contact I have had with the rank and file of the GOP have been in forums - I don't discuss politics in my personal life much - and to be honest I have found the current crop of forum dwelling GOP conservatives to be disturbing nuts.

I only populated the forums as an attempt to advocate for the Serbian people against America's illegal war on them. I think I did some good work in supporting the Serbian people and getting the truth out on Freerepublic.

But I don't have common cause with the Black Helicopter-flouride in our water type of 'conservative'.

Destro  posted on  2007-01-25   16:32:09 ET  Reply   Untrace   Trace   Private Reply  

I think I realized the problem I am having with this forum.

If not enough things are being posted from your point of view, then go find them and post them. If you want to see things hashed out, then talk about those things in a courteous and respectful way, and invite comment. No forum is free of idiots, including this one. No forum is free of prejudice, including this one.

If you are lucky, you will find one or two kindred souls in a place like this with whom you like to share thoughts and whose opinions you respect. I've been fortunate here because I've encountered highly intelligent people whose opinions matter to me. If your experience has not been such, then you should look for a forum that pleases you.

As for the Serbian people and their victimization, you can be assured that you will find a more sympathetic audience here than probably anywhere else. If that's your trick and you are a one trick pony, then this is the place you will feel welcome. If you are a holocaust denier, you will find an open forum here where you can post that silliness and not be laughed right off the screen. That's because christine welcomes pretty much any views and demands only that we treat each other with respect and some fundamental courtesy.

On a day to day basis there are days when nobody's posting anything here that grabs my attention. On other days I can't stay away from my keyboard. I'm not generally censored here (like I have been on Kos, DU, and LP); and that is important to me. Sometimes I see crap posted here that deeply offends me. I usually choose not to respond to it.

Freedom means sometimes hearing shit that pisses you off. What I can tell you is that reading a really well-written Burkeman or Leveller post is worth a whole day's worth of wading through crap, at least to me. But that's just me. Your experience may vary, and no warranties are made.

If you go to a party or a bar, do you expect to like everyone there? At school did you like everyone in your class? Or did you, like most of us, find a few good friends and a few respectful acquaintances, and the rest of the folks there you could hardly give a shit about? Why would you expect a political forum to be any different?

The majority of people in the world are vacuous, shallow, and poorly educated. Occasionally you will find someone who is much smarter and more critical. On this site you will find the proportion of smarties to idiots is pretty good; but that doesn't mean there are no idiots.

Your post reminds me of my brother in law. He married his high school sweetheart and she was really fantastic. Smart, beautiful, accomodating, kind, seriously a real catch. But his marriage wasn't "perfect" and he wasn't "perfectly happy", so he got a divorce. It was his misfortune to grab the brass ring on his first go round the merry-go-round, so he never understood (until much too late) how good he'd had it.

You aren't going to find perfection on any site. But good hunting.

bluedogtxn  posted on  2007-01-25   17:26:19 ET  Reply   Untrace   Trace   Private Reply  

You aren't going to find perfection on any site.

But any other site counts as less pathetic.

Redheadedstranger  posted on  2007-01-26   8:14:54 ET  Reply   Untrace   Trace   Private Reply  

Let me briefly climb on this soap box here and preachify awhile.

Now, I left this 4um in '05, after reaching an epiphany and realizing that 90% percent of my comrades on this site were morons, devoid of two brain cells to rub together, and it was impossible to have an intelligent conversation, among the five or six good posters on the site, in this days, because numbskulls were always intefering. Most posters on this site are both reactionaries and sensationalists by nature. Their hobbies are the hobbies of middle-aged and elderly women: sex gossip, bush bashing, and superfluous conversation. This makes the site quite boring and un-appealing.

Moreover, it further doesn't help that this board is run by women. A board run by women can only reach a certain, low level of prominence. I have said as much to Goldi-lox, on several occassions, on LP, and I have no fear of repeating it here.

So if you are an honest, intelligent and un-feminized member of this site you won't be offended by my frankness, because you will be among the 10% of decent posters.

Redheadedstranger  posted on  2007-01-26   8:25:17 ET  Reply   Untrace   Trace   Private Reply  

So if you are an honest, intelligent and un-feminized member of this site you won't be offended by my frankness, because you will be among the 10% of decent posters.

Is it possible to be un-feminized and female at the same time?

Or do you mean that you think only men should post?

Diana  posted on  2007-01-26   9:40:50 ET  Reply   Untrace   Trace   Private Reply  

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