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Title: Are biblical spouting “patriots” head cases?
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Published: Jan 23, 2007
Author: me
Post Date: 2007-01-23 09:25:29 by Jethro Tull
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Comments: 308

Yeah, they are. I’m amazed at the arrogance of some self professed “patriot” Christians. IMHO, they do more to fracture those of us who get it than any elitist agenda ever could. They are unwitting foot soldiers of the globalists.

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#1. To: Jethro Tull (#0) (Edited)

Those who use biblical prophecy especially those that insert 'Ezekiel' into their forum responses to explain today's events need to be stoned with big rocks.

Destro  posted on  2007-01-23   9:34:08 ET  Reply   Untrace   Trace   Private Reply  

With what they say is going to happen to everyone else, you're letting them off easy.

My vote goes for burned at the stake... in the name of Mercy.

-Blackeagle

blackeagle  posted on  2007-01-23   9:43:56 ET  Reply   Untrace   Trace   Private Reply  

My vote goes for burned at the stake... in the name of Mercy.

YES! And don't forget a book burning (please include all the versions they squabble over)

Jethro Tull  posted on  2007-01-23   9:47:55 ET  Reply   Untrace   Trace   Private Reply  

I'm tired of their petty squabbles, but I really don't want to burn a Bible.

What I think would be even worse is the knowledge that their ashes would be buried with a Koran.

-Blackeagle

blackeagle  posted on  2007-01-23   9:57:11 ET  Reply   Untrace   Trace   Private Reply  

but I really don't want to burn a Bible.

Well, with these head cases it all depends on *which* bible is burnt. Apparently there are different versions and only THEY know the one which is real. As I said, they exhibit overt mental illness.

Jethro Tull  posted on  2007-01-23   10:01:43 ET  Reply   Untrace   Trace   Private Reply  

You're right, it is a severe mental illness.

I used to be a Catholic. The scandals, the money grubbing preists, but mostly the people drove me away. I couldnt take the "if god wills it" mentality. The smile in my face on Sunday spit on me Monday acts.

Why just this Sunday the church handed out petitions for an amendment to the Florida constitution banning embryonic stem cell research from public money. Like good sheep everyone signed it.

I hate dealing with religious nuts across the board.

-Blackeagle

blackeagle  posted on  2007-01-23   10:42:00 ET  Reply   Untrace   Trace   Private Reply  

I used to be a Catholic. The scandals, the money grubbing preists, but mostly the people drove me away. I couldnt take the "if god wills it" mentality. The smile in my face on Sunday spit on me Monday acts.

To: Jethro Tull You're right, it is a severe mental illness.

I used to be a Catholic. The scandals, the money grubbing preists, but mostly the people drove me away. I couldnt take the "if god wills it" mentality. The smile in my face on Sunday spit on me Monday acts.

Why just this Sunday the church handed out petitions for an amendment to the Florida constitution banning embryonic stem cell research from public money. Like good sheep everyone signed it.

I hate dealing with religious nuts across the board.

The Catholics you describe are more the exception than the mainstream, unless the church has turned into some kind of holy roller hang out since I was last there as a "regular."

I'm not sure what state you live in - if it's a Southern state maybe the Catholics got infected with the Bible Belt disease or something - but the Catholics I've known and my family are all practising Catholics except for me are pretty average people -flawed and not holier than thou- they definitely don't press their religion on strangers nor do they wear their religion on their sleeve like a badge of merit. And Catholics are not too terribly political - in fact, with their numbers, they could be far more political if they chose.

As for priests molesters - that was very ugly - but the percentage of priests who molested was similar to other church's clerics or so I've read - what was bad was the Catholic church tried to cover it up. Also the priest molestation thingie was primarily isolated to American Catholic churches for some peculiar reason.

As for money grubbing priests - the Catholic church is no different from other religions and certainly no worse than most.

scrapper2  posted on  2007-01-24   11:57:55 ET  Reply   Untrace   Trace   Private Reply  

but the Catholics I've known and my family are all practising Catholics except for me are pretty average people -flawed and not holier than thou- they definitely don't press their religion on strangers nor do they wear their religion on their sleeve like a badge of merit. And Catholics are not too terribly political - in fact, with their numbers, they could be far more political if they chose.

I'm in the same boat as you, scrapper. What got me started on this rant is the outright hatred some otherwise kindred spirits have toward anything Catholic. The Catholics I know would stand with us on most issues, while never discussing religion. Who and what people choose to hold close is their business. IMHO, some people in this community of ours place religion and obscure conspiracies over the current events that are actively altering our culture and country. They divide rather than unify, and I find it impossible to keep quiet.

Jethro Tull  posted on  2007-01-24   14:33:34 ET  Reply   Untrace   Trace   Private Reply  

Catholics are one of the leading enablers of illegal immigration, JT. Them and evangelicals.

Redheadedstranger  posted on  2007-01-24   14:36:33 ET  Reply   Untrace   Trace   Private Reply  

Catholics are one of the leading enablers of illegal immigration, JT. Them and evangelicals.

Catholics and Jews and mainstream Protestants and Buddhists - just about all religious leaders are big sympathizers to illegals and unbridled legal immigration generally - it's the leftie slant of most religions that is the major reason for support of the "poor and disenfranchised" - equality of man - no boundaries for God's children schtick.

The Catholic leadership in S. California - Cardinal Mahoney - has been getting lots of publicity lately - pleading the case for Hispanic illegals - no secret why - Hispanics are Catholics. Also most Catholics I know are Democrats - and the Democrat Party itself is big on illegals - future Democrat voters, but not because Catholics exert any power within the Party - rather because of the party's self-serving reasons.

Evangelicals - are probably one religious group who are not sympathetic to illegals - they are only interested in Rapture and Catholic Mexicans don't play a part in bringing Rapture.

scrapper2  posted on  2007-01-24   15:12:27 ET  Reply   Untrace   Trace   Private Reply  

Who is for or against open borders is not cut and dried.

While I am against open borders - my reasons are not the same as those of others - my reasons being logical and rational while most of the other types want to close the border because of racial and religious reasons (irrational).

In other words I am against open immigration for economic reasons more so than cultural ones. Those that argue cultural reasons are playing with a losing hand/argument and thus those are the types the media highlights. Thus the media wants people like you using those arguments fronting the closed border debate.

Destro  posted on  2007-01-24   15:28:27 ET  Reply   Untrace   Trace   Private Reply  

In other words I am against open immigration for economic reasons more so than cultural ones.

i'm in complete agreement with you on that one.

christine  posted on  2007-01-24   17:42:11 ET  Reply   Untrace   Trace   Private Reply  

Economic reasons are the only reasons I see posted here.

robin  posted on  2007-01-24   17:45:35 ET  Reply   Untrace   Trace   Private Reply  

Economic reasons are the only reasons I see posted here.

I'll admit to being somewhat sad that the culture we knew is going, going, gone.

It's okey and even encouraged for other minorities and ethnic groups to embrace their cultures, but if white people want to hold onto their's they are deemed biased, ignorant rednecks.

I'm tired of labels and accusations and pretension, we should not have to give in by being labeled as stupid and evil if we don't like our culture being destroyed and ridiculed.

Blacks are encouraged to embrace black culture, Jews embrace their culture and heritage, Asians the same and so on, but if white Americans want to retain their culture they get called racist and bigoted and to avoid being labeled as such they end up denying their own identity in order to fit in.

It shouldn't have to be that way.

Diana  posted on  2007-01-26   5:50:54 ET  Reply   Untrace   Trace   Private Reply  

if white Americans want to retain their culture they get called racist and bigoted

Just what culture is that?

Richard W.

Arete  posted on  2007-01-26   9:32:58 ET  Reply   Untrace   Trace   Private Reply  

Just what culture is that?

A few weeks before Christmas I was standing in line at the post office with a friend, she was in front of me and wanted to buy stamps. When she got to the counter she told the woman she wanted to buy some Christmas stamps. The postal worker woman told her they didn't have any this year, they only had Kwanzaa and Hanukkah stamps. My friend just stood there for a moment looking puzzled and then said nevermind and ended up not buying any stamps. She's Eskimo but they tend to be Christians and celebrate Christmas.

All cultures matter and are important, but there's no good reason to kill off any of them, including traditional European Americana, for all it's good or bad depending on anyone's viewpoint.

Diana  posted on  2007-01-26   11:19:58 ET  Reply   Untrace   Trace   Private Reply  

A few weeks before Christmas I was standing in line at the post office with a friend, she was in front of me and wanted to buy stamps. When she got to the counter she told the woman she wanted to buy some Christmas stamps. The postal worker woman told her they didn't have any this year, they only had Kwanzaa and Hanukkah stamps. My friend just stood there for a moment looking puzzled and then said nevermind and ended up not buying any stamps. She's Eskimo but they tend to be Christians and celebrate Christmas.

All cultures matter and are important, but there's no good reason to kill off any of them, including traditional European Americana, for all it's good or bad depending on anyone's viewpoint.

That's it? White American culture is celebrating Christmas? Holy shit, no wonder I couldn't figure it out.

Richard W.

Arete  posted on  2007-01-26   11:34:56 ET  Reply   Untrace   Trace   Private Reply  

That's it? White American culture is celebrating Christmas? Holy shit, no wonder I couldn't figure it out.

Richard W.

No, that was just an example I was giving you of how traditional American values and customs are being blotted out.

On the post before that I answered your question. I can tell you some things about traditional south Louisiana culture from the old days, but somehow I don't think you're really interested in that.

I'm not passing any kind of judgement on other cultures, none, they are all interesting and tell the story of the various groups of mankind. However to destroy a culture, to blot out it's memory, is too much like an attempt to blot out a people.

Look at any modern public school history textbook, many famous white men of the past are portrayed as bad men, as racists, with their accomplishments nowhere to be seen. I saw 5th grade and 7th grade textbooks recently and they presented the idea of white man as racist and destroyer. There are too many signs pointing to intentions to bring down people with European DNA, that does not make me a bigot, though in your mind it may, but I don't believe in genocide in any form, that's my point.

Diana  posted on  2007-01-26   11:53:45 ET  Reply   Untrace   Trace   Private Reply  

I saw 5th grade and 7th grade textbooks recently and they presented the idea of white man as racist and destroyer.

Well, I suppose if you are a native American kid sitting in a reservation school, that wouldn't be much of a reach, now would it. However, that is besides the point. I still want to know precisely what white American culture is cause I sure as heck am not going to worry about the extinguishing of something that can't even be specifically defined beyond European DNA. So tell me again what white American culture is.

Richard W.

Arete  posted on  2007-01-26   12:28:42 ET  Reply   Untrace   Trace   Private Reply  

#257. To: Arete, Diana, christine, rowdee (#255) (Edited)

I still want to know precisely what white American culture is cause I sure as heck am not going to worry about the extinguishing of something that can't even be specifically defined beyond European DNA. So tell me again what white American culture is.

Richard W.

It can best be defined as the transplanting of the European work ethic which gave birth to the previously unthinkable idea of individual liberty, which is "the mainspring of human progress".

The enemies of white America seem to want to prosper by stealth, collectivist swindle or force. The notion that honest labor is its own reward is thought to be madness in the Marxist circles where your anti white views were heaved up.

Indeed the very concept of justice as it can only be rationally defined (by Thos. Jefferson, not Judge Bruce Takasugi) is the product of Anglo-European jurisprudence. No African, Asian or swarthy peoples ever conceived of such a thing nor could they, lacking the necessary genes or intelligence to survive without avarice and plunder.

HOUNDDAWG  posted on  2007-01-26 13:02:22 ET  Reply   Untrace   Trace   Private Reply  

Well, I suppose if you are a native American kid sitting in a reservation school, that wouldn't be much of a reach, now would it. However, that is besides the point. I still want to know precisely what white American culture is cause I sure as heck am not going to worry about the extinguishing of something that can't even be specifically defined beyond European DNA. So tell me again what white American culture is.

I agree about the native American kid in school, but the books I read mostly related the bad white men to the black experience which is also valid.

In fact the native Americans are a wonderful example of various old cultures being wiped out with the arrival of the new immigrants from Europe, that is what happens. They also were forced to renounce their various cultures, their religions, kind of like how Christianity is being suppressed in this day and age. But never mind these paralells, you're only interested in me giving you some examples of white culture from a time when I wasn't quite born yet. Since that is the case I'll have to give you bits and pieces.

In the old days they had zoos where they took good care of the animals and parents who stayed married would bring their children there on weekends. Mothers would stay home with their children while the father went to work. Women made quilts and other handicrafts such as crocheting, they baked pies and they learned to play the piano. Girls were given dolls and taught to sew and sing, and boys played baseball. Children were taught not to touch things that did not belong to them, and were taught to call adults by Mr. and Mrs. and then the last name. They would go to church on Sundays and have Sunday school for the children. They had lawns and gardens and the fathers and boys mowed the lawns and the women liked to garden and plant flowers.

In Victorian times there was great emphasis placed on mourning as many children and small babies died. There was an odd but common practice of making doilies out of the hair of the deceased loved one. People went on picnics, people drew and painted pictures, and there were certain manners and mores that people observed in their conduct with one another. People had pets and loved their dogs and cats. They appreciated and created beauty.

In the old south women wore corsets around the Civil War era, and they had special fainting couches where they would lay down when they felt dizzy. They also applied makeup to their face which was wax-based, and if they got too close to the fireplace their makeup would melt. They used snuff. They were expected to dress modestly with their arms and legs covered with high necklines for everyday wear. They wore hats as did the men, and proper ladies wore clean white gloves when they went out. They played parlor games, read the bible together at nights, and tried their best to live their lives according to the laws of the bible. Some of the men invented things like electrical appliances and telephones. They wrote poems and novels, and developed medicines and surgical procedures. They went to dances, composed music some of which became famous, they made up recipes. And they weren't harrassed for celebrating Christmas, and they weren't obscenely ridiculed in the press. There was respect for their way of life and culture, and people were taught to love one another and live by the Golden Rule. Hell what do you want me to tell you?! You already know all this stuff and probably more, so what is your point exactly? That there never was an American culture, or never a white Christian culture, or that white people are inherently bad and deserve to be extinguished?

It's too easy and fashionable these days to bash whites, we see it all the time, but no group of people is perfect, this is not a perfect world and no one in this world is perfect. White people have commited acts of cruelty without a doubt, but that does not then mean all white people are evil and deserve to die off.

Okey, I have written this absurd post for you, if you want me to give you more details I will have to look for some sociology books. Then I can tell you all about powdered wigs of the 18th century and how they were made and how their styles morphed, things like that. Maybe I can tell you more too about the development of the automobile and it's early history.

Diana  posted on  2007-01-26 13:17:28 ET  Reply   Untrace   Trace   Private Reply  

So now you disappear after all that?

Diana  posted on  2007-01-26 13:55:06 ET  Reply   Untrace   Trace   Private Reply  

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