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Title: Are biblical spouting “patriots” head cases?
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Published: Jan 23, 2007
Author: me
Post Date: 2007-01-23 09:25:29 by Jethro Tull
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Views: 3872
Comments: 308

Yeah, they are. I’m amazed at the arrogance of some self professed “patriot” Christians. IMHO, they do more to fracture those of us who get it than any elitist agenda ever could. They are unwitting foot soldiers of the globalists.

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#245. To: Redheadedstranger (#234)

Plus isn't he only 23 That's...1/6 of your own age, isn't it?

No, I'm not that old, I'm only 93.

That partly explains my goofiness. I just might make it to 138 though, you never know...

Diana  posted on  2007-01-26   11:39:20 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#246. To: robin, Eoghan, HOUNDDAWG, scrapper2, bluedogtxn, Brian S, Jethro Tull, ... (#242)

i just perused the latest posts on LF. i don't see that they've got posted any better quality or quantity of articles than we have here.

christine  posted on  2007-01-26   11:43:22 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#247. To: christine (#238)

i doubt anyone cares, beyond some amusement value, about his 'legend in his own mind' pitiable offerings here or anywhere.

Point taken.

As you know I sometimes counsel young lost men when opportunities present, because I can't help but feel sympathy when I see them adrift.

But, if I was a woman I wouldn't give them anything until they learn to respect their mothers. If they do that then many of their demons will leave on their own. And, then some charitable gals (the generosity of women never ceases to amaze me) can finish the job of making men of them.

"I don't know how he does it...but I'll tell you the bottom line...

The man got a way with women...HE GOT AWAY WITH MINE!" ;)

HOUNDDAWG  posted on  2007-01-26   11:50:03 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#248. To: Diana, christine, Scrapper2, Destro (#231)

He did admit earlier in this thread that he needs to work on his humility

Diana, I think you missed the tongue in his cheek. This person would not admit he/she/it could be wrong if his/hers/its life depended upon such confession.

And that is sad...........about as pathetic as the one whining against wimmen.

rowdee  posted on  2007-01-26   11:52:03 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#249. To: Arete (#244)

That's it? White American culture is celebrating Christmas? Holy shit, no wonder I couldn't figure it out.

Richard W.

No, that was just an example I was giving you of how traditional American values and customs are being blotted out.

On the post before that I answered your question. I can tell you some things about traditional south Louisiana culture from the old days, but somehow I don't think you're really interested in that.

I'm not passing any kind of judgement on other cultures, none, they are all interesting and tell the story of the various groups of mankind. However to destroy a culture, to blot out it's memory, is too much like an attempt to blot out a people.

Look at any modern public school history textbook, many famous white men of the past are portrayed as bad men, as racists, with their accomplishments nowhere to be seen. I saw 5th grade and 7th grade textbooks recently and they presented the idea of white man as racist and destroyer. There are too many signs pointing to intentions to bring down people with European DNA, that does not make me a bigot, though in your mind it may, but I don't believe in genocide in any form, that's my point.

Diana  posted on  2007-01-26   11:53:45 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#250. To: HOUNDDAWG (#235)

And here you see what happens when potty training goes badly.

Well.........either that or the abortionist was an amateur and bungled badly.

rowdee  posted on  2007-01-26   11:56:07 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#251. To: rowdee (#248)

Diana, I think you missed the tongue in his cheek. This person would not admit he/she/it could be wrong if his/hers/its life depended upon such confession.

I'll have to look for that again, perhaps I read it too quickly.

Afterall I am 93 years old, for today at least.

Diana  posted on  2007-01-26   11:59:18 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#252. To: christine, destro, rowdee, Diana (#246)

i just perused the latest posts on LF. i don't see that they've got posted any better quality or quantity of articles than we have here.

Right.

Since you mentioned that, I can tell you that destro seldom engages any of the serious 911 researchers (or any other grownups) at LF and he certainly never claims to be superior to all. But, they are very aggressive there and they can reduce him to tears, and he doesn't like it when he is treated the way he treats people here.

I've known who he is from LF for quite some time and to me he was an inconsequential little twit. (even though his screen name was familiar to me for a long time I had not the faintest clue what if anything he stood for there. I see now that he was too intimidated to show his ass then.)

For some reason (probably because trolls aren't tolerated and folks are generally better behaved here) he interprets good manners as weakness and he believes he can bully us with his imaginary "big brain".

"I don't know how he does it...but I'll tell you the bottom line...

The man got a way with women...HE GOT AWAY WITH MINE!" ;)

HOUNDDAWG  posted on  2007-01-26   12:09:32 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#253. To: rowdee (#250)

And here you see what happens when potty training goes badly.

Well.........either that or the abortionist was an amateur and bungled badly.

I can see him sitting at a computer with a coat hanger through his head and typing, "Mom always liked you best...."

"I don't know how he does it...but I'll tell you the bottom line...

The man got a way with women...HE GOT AWAY WITH MINE!" ;)

HOUNDDAWG  posted on  2007-01-26   12:20:51 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#254. To: Diana (#249)

A proud white woman is a thing of beauty!

Don't let the nig....I mean, African American lovers make you defensive.

We know very well that there's a war against majority whites in this country and we don't have to kiss the minorities' or the fawning whites' asses unless (as some sad cases obviously do) one happens to enjoy that sort of thing.

"I don't know how he does it...but I'll tell you the bottom line...

The man got a way with women...HE GOT AWAY WITH MINE!" ;)

HOUNDDAWG  posted on  2007-01-26   12:24:57 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#255. To: Diana (#249)

I saw 5th grade and 7th grade textbooks recently and they presented the idea of white man as racist and destroyer.

Well, I suppose if you are a native American kid sitting in a reservation school, that wouldn't be much of a reach, now would it. However, that is besides the point. I still want to know precisely what white American culture is cause I sure as heck am not going to worry about the extinguishing of something that can't even be specifically defined beyond European DNA. So tell me again what white American culture is.

Richard W.

Arete  posted on  2007-01-26   12:28:42 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#256. To: Diana (#251)

I'll have to look for that again, perhaps I read it too quickly.

Don't waste your efforts......seems like the shit stir stick has removed himself from the premises.....probably laughin his ass off.

rowdee  posted on  2007-01-26   12:45:16 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#257. To: Arete, Diana, christine, rowdee (#255) (Edited)

I still want to know precisely what white American culture is cause I sure as heck am not going to worry about the extinguishing of something that can't even be specifically defined beyond European DNA. So tell me again what white American culture is.

Richard W.

It can best be defined as the transplanting of the European work ethic which gave birth to the previously unthinkable idea of individual liberty, which is "the mainspring of human progress".

The enemies of white America seem to want to prosper by stealth, collectivist swindle or force. The notion that honest labor is its own reward is thought to be madness in the Marxist circles where your anti white views were heaved up.

Indeed the very concept of justice as it can only be rationally defined (by Thos. Jefferson, not Judge Bruce Takasugi) is the product of Anglo-European jurisprudence. No African, Asian or swarthy peoples ever conceived of such a thing nor could they, lacking the necessary genes or intelligence to survive without avarice and plunder.

"I don't know how he does it...but I'll tell you the bottom line...

The man got a way with women...HE GOT AWAY WITH MINE!" ;)

HOUNDDAWG  posted on  2007-01-26   13:02:22 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#258. To: Arete (#255)

Well, I suppose if you are a native American kid sitting in a reservation school, that wouldn't be much of a reach, now would it. However, that is besides the point. I still want to know precisely what white American culture is cause I sure as heck am not going to worry about the extinguishing of something that can't even be specifically defined beyond European DNA. So tell me again what white American culture is.

I agree about the native American kid in school, but the books I read mostly related the bad white men to the black experience which is also valid.

In fact the native Americans are a wonderful example of various old cultures being wiped out with the arrival of the new immigrants from Europe, that is what happens. They also were forced to renounce their various cultures, their religions, kind of like how Christianity is being suppressed in this day and age. But never mind these paralells, you're only interested in me giving you some examples of white culture from a time when I wasn't quite born yet. Since that is the case I'll have to give you bits and pieces.

In the old days they had zoos where they took good care of the animals and parents who stayed married would bring their children there on weekends. Mothers would stay home with their children while the father went to work. Women made quilts and other handicrafts such as crocheting, they baked pies and they learned to play the piano. Girls were given dolls and taught to sew and sing, and boys played baseball. Children were taught not to touch things that did not belong to them, and were taught to call adults by Mr. and Mrs. and then the last name. They would go to church on Sundays and have Sunday school for the children. They had lawns and gardens and the fathers and boys mowed the lawns and the women liked to garden and plant flowers.

In Victorian times there was great emphasis placed on mourning as many children and small babies died. There was an odd but common practice of making doilies out of the hair of the deceased loved one. People went on picnics, people drew and painted pictures, and there were certain manners and mores that people observed in their conduct with one another. People had pets and loved their dogs and cats. They appreciated and created beauty.

In the old south women wore corsets around the Civil War era, and they had special fainting couches where they would lay down when they felt dizzy. They also applied makeup to their face which was wax-based, and if they got too close to the fireplace their makeup would melt. They used snuff. They were expected to dress modestly with their arms and legs covered with high necklines for everyday wear. They wore hats as did the men, and proper ladies wore clean white gloves when they went out. They played parlor games, read the bible together at nights, and tried their best to live their lives according to the laws of the bible. Some of the men invented things like electrical appliances and telephones. They wrote poems and novels, and developed medicines and surgical procedures. They went to dances, composed music some of which became famous, they made up recipes. And they weren't harrassed for celebrating Christmas, and they weren't obscenely ridiculed in the press. There was respect for their way of life and culture, and people were taught to love one another and live by the Golden Rule. Hell what do you want me to tell you?! You already know all this stuff and probably more, so what is your point exactly? That there never was an American culture, or never a white Christian culture, or that white people are inherently bad and deserve to be extinguished?

It's too easy and fashionable these days to bash whites, we see it all the time, but no group of people is perfect, this is not a perfect world and no one in this world is perfect. White people have commited acts of cruelty without a doubt, but that does not then mean all white people are evil and deserve to die off.

Okey, I have written this absurd post for you, if you want me to give you more details I will have to look for some sociology books. Then I can tell you all about powdered wigs of the 18th century and how they were made and how their styles morphed, things like that. Maybe I can tell you more too about the development of the automobile and it's early history.

Diana  posted on  2007-01-26   13:17:28 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#259. To: HOUNDDAWG, Arete (#257)

It can best be defined as the transplanting of the European work ethic which gave birth to the previously unthinkable idea of individual liberty, which is "the mainspring of human progress".

Thankyou, you did better than I could, I was trying to be too literal.

But I think HONESTY and a sense of awe and appreciation and cooperation sums that up nicely.

Diana  posted on  2007-01-26   13:22:28 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#260. To: Diana, rowdee, HOUNDDAWG (#259)

Europeans (once upon a time) embraced Christianty, which brought forward the idea of human rights, and the importance of the individual; not commonly accepted ideas 2,000 years ago.

All the old Universities of Europe and the UK were originally started by the church. People like to make fun of the church and say it stifled learning (like the earth not being the center of the universe), but that's not the whole picture.

IMO, the Christian values that our forebearers brought to this country are the ones we want to cherish and keep. But like Solomon and his many foreign wives with their many foreign gods, our nation is being corrupted from within.

The more corrupt the state, the more numerous the laws. – Tacitus

robin  posted on  2007-01-26   13:29:54 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#261. To: Diana, all (#259)

For anyone to ask that the our American Culture be defined in a few sentences, misses the point. The change to it has taken decades, so some here (given their age) might not have an historical perspective of what we lived thru. Here are a few things I'd like to see corrected/restored:

An American culture is one without forced multicultural education with the presumption that all cultures are equal. They aren’t and scientific studies that suggest this should be embraced, rather than dismissed.

An American culture is one where the Zionist Lobby doesn’t control our foreign policy by direct control over our elected representatives. We must recognize and oppose wars such as Iraq as being beneficial to Israel, and not America.

An American culture is one where “Hate Speech” is a notion for enslaved nations.

Am American culture is one where Al Sharpton and Jesse Jackson run from the law and not president.

Jethro Tull  posted on  2007-01-26   13:48:37 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#262. To: Arete (#255)

So now you disappear after all that?

Diana  posted on  2007-01-26   13:55:06 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#263. To: robin, rowdee, Kamala (#242)

BTW, there have been long threads on 9/11 from which many, many excellent points were made that Destro never responded to,

That is a lie - I provided links - pictures to back my statements up.

At this point if this was a dive bar the beer bottle would be smashed.

"The desire to rule is the mother of heresies." -- St. John Chrysostom

Destro  posted on  2007-01-26   14:01:20 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#264. To: Jethro Tull, robin, HOUNDDAWG (#261)

The change to it has taken decades, so some here (given their age) might not have an historical perspective of what we lived thru.

An American culture is one where “Hate Speech” is a notion for enslaved nations.

Well if I were really 138 years old like Redheadedstrangerwomanhater claims, I could have been around during the Victorian period, but probably too young for the Civil War period.

Our neo-American culture is indeed quickly turning into a cold-blooded marxist culture.

Diana  posted on  2007-01-26   14:03:11 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#265. To: Destro (#263)

That is the truth. Go re-read those threads yourself. You skipped over almost all the points made and refused to watch any of the 9/11 videos. You posted a very bad photo that supposedly made one of your points, which it failed to do anyway.

You had no response whatsoever to the very best arguments.

Now go sweep up the broken glass before you hurt yourself.

The more corrupt the state, the more numerous the laws. – Tacitus

robin  posted on  2007-01-26   14:05:37 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#266. To: Destro (#263)

At this point if this was a dive bar the beer bottle would be smashed.

Is this a reference point that comes from personal experience?

Jethro Tull  posted on  2007-01-26   14:06:16 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#267. To: Diana (#264)

Well if I were really 138 years old like Redheadedstrangerwomanhater claims

You look a hundred years younger, at least. Now, wouldn't be fun to know what the redheadedchickenplucker looks like? Why is it he won't meet other posters (me) in NH? Or CA? Or anywhere else where we might share a bowl of gruel?

Jethro Tull  posted on  2007-01-26   14:11:21 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#268. To: HOUNDDAWG, christine, rowdee, Diana, swarthyguy (#252) (Edited)

I've known who he is from LF for quite some time and to me he was an inconsequential little twit. (even though his screen name was familiar to me for a long time I had not the faintest clue what if anything he stood for there. I see now that he was too intimidated to show his ass then.)

That your American Muslim dogs who America trained/supplied/used to atatck the Serbian people turned around (or were used) to attack America on 9/11 is karmic payback on a cosmic scale.

Any attempt by the 9//11 truthers to minimize the role of Muslim jihadis linked to the black ops programs of America used overseas (and domestically?) - especially the Balkan and Chechen campaigns of the 90s will be fought by me. It is my thesis that the 9/11 demolition theory is a perfect way to discredit all who want to expose the TRUE 9/11 story - the CIA backed jihad of the alst 20 years that somehow led back to the carrying out of 9/11 either by much deserved blowback or on purpose.

PS: I was on Freerepublic - Libertyforum was a back up for my many bannings on Freerepublic where my confederates still post articles I find for them along with the background to link the article to the bigger story. On Libertyforum I only post when Blackjade needs a back up there. In fact I was the first to leak the info that men who carried out the 9/11 attacks were from Bosnia's CIA backed jihadi soldiers that Clinton authorized to be imported in to fight the Serbs.

"The desire to rule is the mother of heresies." -- St. John Chrysostom

Destro  posted on  2007-01-26   14:15:57 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#269. To: Diana, rowdee, Jethro Tull, christine (#258)

You folks make me proud.

I don't mind explaining but, let's agree not to try to convert any indigenous or peregrine "natives", Mongols, bushmen or semi-Asiatics because they just don't have the genetic equipment to grasp the concept of freedom, morality or spiritual rewards with little tangible mass.

If they can't steal it, redistribute it, eat, rape or make an equity loan against it then it's worthless by the measure of their five senses.

The nations from whence these critics originated couldn't invent a fly swatter never mind things to feed and improve the world, so let's dispense with the notion of the white man's burden and give them nothing but directions to the nearest minority charity and birthing shelter.

"I don't know how he does it...but I'll tell you the bottom line...

The man got a way with women...HE GOT AWAY WITH MINE!" ;)

HOUNDDAWG  posted on  2007-01-26   14:18:51 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#270. To: HOUNDDAWG, Arete, Diana, christine, rowdee (#257) (Edited)

It can best be defined as the transplanting of the European work ethic which gave birth to the previously unthinkable idea of individual liberty, which is "the mainspring of human progress".

Including those Europeans the previous White Americans (WASPS) treated like subhumans like the Irish and Italians and Germans?

"The Day We Celebrate" by American cartoonist Thomas Nast shows the Irish on St. Patrick’s Day as violent, drunken apes very akin to being blacks themselves.

"The desire to rule is the mother of heresies." -- St. John Chrysostom

Destro  posted on  2007-01-26   14:25:04 ET  (1 image) Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#271. To: Destro (#263)

BTW, there have been long threads on 9/11 from which many, many excellent points were made that Destro never responded to,

There you go again.......Destro. I do not get involved with the 9/ll threads, so why drag my name into this issue, for cryin out loud. You've been scolded once for dragging another poster into a topic on which they had not commented.

I'm sure you'll be much happier at LF or kos.

rowdee  posted on  2007-01-26   14:53:44 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#272. To: rowdee (#271)

There you go again.......Destro. I do not get involved with the 9/ll threads, so why drag my name into this issue, for cryin out loud. You've been scolded once for dragging another poster into a topic on which they had not commented.

My apologies - I just cut and pasted all who were in the box.

"The desire to rule is the mother of heresies." -- St. John Chrysostom

Destro  posted on  2007-01-26   14:55:40 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#273. To: HOUNDDAWG (#269)

I take that as an attempt to keep us from converting/naturalizing pygmies? Whatchu got ginst short peeples, Dawg? Short peeples with darts? How'd they come up with the idea of poisoning them darts? Doan that count for sumthin on part with a fly swatter, or nearly so?

rowdee  posted on  2007-01-26   15:00:48 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#274. To: Destro (#272)

Thank you.

rowdee  posted on  2007-01-26   15:02:20 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#275. To: Diana (#258)

Okey, I have written this absurd post for you

Yes, you indeed have.

Richard W.

Arete  posted on  2007-01-26   15:49:36 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#276. To: Diana (#262)

So now you disappear after all that?

Sorry, I was out mowing the grass and throwing the ball around with the kids. The little woman is busy baking pies up for the big church social.

Richard W.

Arete  posted on  2007-01-26   15:52:48 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#277. To: Destro (#154)

I just resigned from the GOP and became a registered independent.

I'm staying registered Republican so I have a chance to vote for Ron Paul in the primaries.

Out FOXed

Pirates And Emperors

You are either with the President, or you are for the Bill Of Rights.

PnbC  posted on  2007-01-26   16:00:24 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#278. To: PnbC (#277)

That is a good reason - I respect Ron paul very much even if he is a dark horse candidate - he deserves support.

"The desire to rule is the mother of heresies." -- St. John Chrysostom

Destro  posted on  2007-01-26   16:57:44 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#279. To: robin (#260)

Europeans (once upon a time) embraced Christianty, which brought forward the idea of human rights, and the importance of the individual; not commonly accepted ideas 2,000 years ago.

All the old Universities of Europe and the UK were originally started by the church. People like to make fun of the church and say it stifled learning (like the earth not being the center of the universe), but that's not the whole picture.

IMO, the Christian values that our forebearers brought to this country are the ones we want to cherish and keep. But like Solomon and his many foreign wives with their many foreign gods, our nation is being corrupted from within.

A wonderful ancillary post to the others, and I omitted your name among those flagged by mistake.

"I don't know how he does it...but I'll tell you the bottom line...

The man got a way with women...HE GOT AWAY WITH MINE!" ;)

HOUNDDAWG  posted on  2007-01-26   17:28:07 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#280. To: Arete, All (#275)

Okey, I have written this absurd post for you

Yes, you indeed have.

Richard W.

So why did you bait me? I told you what you wanted to hear. Some things are hard to define, but if you watch tv or read the news or read magazines like The Week, it's quite obvious there's a war on traditional American values. We now have ubiquitous porn to demonize women, which used to be hard to find due to obscenity laws, we have tv shows such as CSI where the bad guys are too easy to spot as they are over-whelmingly white people with fair coloring, it's insulting, and you can't blame a whole race of people for crimes commited in the past by some of their members.

I believe all people matter equally, that God loves all people, we all have a soul and should be treated with dignity.

Perhaps you don't believe that and you are projecting your own prejudices onto me. I'm not a "white supremecist" just because I don't like what I see happening in this country, the degradation of all things held sacred, the attempted abolishment and ridicule of Christian ways, the demonizing of white Americans through history, even though in all people's history there are some dark areas, but the whole race's negative traits are screamed from rooftops these days.

You can look your nose down at me, report me to the ADL or whatever it is people like you do, but you can't change facts, and you can't deny this insulting process is taking place. I think you are very dogmatic in your thinking and closed-minded as well. We'll all find out the truth in the end.

Diana  posted on  2007-01-26   23:32:58 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#281. To: HOUNDDAWG, Arete (#269)

I don't mind explaining but, let's agree not to try to convert any indigenous or peregrine "natives", Mongols, bushmen or semi-Asiatics because they just don't have the genetic equipment to grasp the concept of freedom, morality or spiritual rewards with little tangible mass.

Just because people of European ancestry are being targeted these days doesn't mean other races are lesser than we are. All ethnic groups have good and bad points, and Asians and others have more highly developed traits than we do.

I don't think it's about who is best because just as individuals have differences so do ethnic groups. I guess people like Arete don't want to acknowledge that because either he's a closet supremecist, or he truly believes in the blank- slate theory that we are all born exactly the same and are shaped solely by environment, though from his attitude I suspect it stems from his own supremecist mentality.

We all have traits good and bad, interesting, funny and so on, but I firmly believe all people should be treated with respect and dignity, and I certainly don't believe in guilt by DNA, taking Eye for an Eye to the extreme. Who are people to decide that whole groups must be exterminated? That is playing God, or more likely the devil, and to pass judgement in that sort of way is the epitomy of evil no matter who does it.

Diana  posted on  2007-01-26   23:46:08 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#282. To: Destro (#270) (Edited)

Including those Europeans the previous White Americans (WASPS) treated like subhumans like the Irish and Italians and Germans?

That is a good point.

These smug idiots who want to make it illegal to say anything about the degradation of whites taking place simplify things to such an extent that they "forget" that in Europe and America there have been clashes and wars between many of the ethnic groups under the heading of Caucasian. White people are not all the same no more than Africans or Asians are, though those who would have us all destroyed would like to think we are, it makes their job much easier.

The English have looked down on the French, the Austrians don't appreciate the Romanians, the Iranians don't like the Afgans, I take it the Greeks and Turks don't like each other, it's just how people are but we all need to rise above it, though that won't happen in this life.

Diana  posted on  2007-01-26   23:54:49 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#283. To: Diana, Jethro Tull, robin, HOUNDDAWG (#282)

Including those Europeans the previous White Americans (WASPS) treated like subhumans like the Irish and Italians and Germans?

Many forget - especially certain White groups that have moved up the social ladder and entered WASP society - that some WASPs (not all WASPS) viewed these White European as nothing more than white niggers.

For example: Prohibition was largely pushed forward thanks to hatred of Germans and their love of beer and beer gardens - especially drinking beer on - gasps - Sundays! With their families all in the beer garden! Shocking!!

Or the fact that the Irish were treated as worse than niggers in America.

Why should I as a German or Irish help the group who once considered my people to be niggers as well? What is to stop the dominant white group from turning on my people - who may be Catholic as well as Irish/German/Italian AGAIN once they eliminate the Blacks and Hispanics? Why do you assume because we are white in America we have common cause when the dominant White group of the past - the WASPS did not view other whites as equals?

Read the following:

http://www.ency clopedia.chicagohistory.org/pages/512.html

Whole families met in brightly lit and comfortable pubs, and on Sundays women and children joined the men on excursions to the beer gardens.

Much of this activity attracted criticism from Anglo-American elites, and the German American response to this criticism provided occasions for political organization along ethnic lines.

Temperance and Sunday closing laws touched a similarly raw nerve, attacking fundamental issues of German sociability and way of life. Initially framed as a conflict between Anglo-American whiskey drinking and German beer culture, the liquor issue became a proxy for deeper ethnic divisions. Germans who allegedly wandered through the streets on Sundays, shouting, singing, and intimidating churchgoers and other pious citizens, were a thorn in the flesh of temperance advocates and church officials. German working men and women, who could meet with friends and fellow workers only on Saturday afternoons and on Sundays for leisure and pleasure, regarded the Sunday closing laws as an attack on their culturally specific habits and an infringement on their personal liberties and constitutional rights. For these working-class German Americans, Sunday closing merged class and ethnic interests more than any other issue.

"The desire to rule is the mother of heresies." -- St. John Chrysostom

Destro  posted on  2007-01-27   0:37:09 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#284. To: Destro (#150)

I agree - that is a problem with the left - PC.

Finally we're down to your total uselessness and purpose ... to impart a belief in left and right ... hahahahaha !!!

I only wish you'd have "left" !

“The First Highest Masonic Council was, as we have already said, formed on 31st May 1801 in Charleston, 33 degrees northern latitude, under the chairmanship of the Jew Isaac Long, who was made inspector general by the Jew Moses Cohen, and who had received his degree from Hyes, from Franken, and the Jew Morin.”

noone222  posted on  2007-01-27   9:08:52 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#285. To: Jethro Tull (#267)

redheadedchickenplucker

Was that a typo??? I figured you meant redheadedchickenchoker.

No matter how noble the objectives of a government; if it blurs decency and kindness, cheapens human life, and breeds ill will and suspicion - it is an EVIL government. Eric Hoffer

innieway  posted on  2007-01-27   10:35:35 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  



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