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Title: Are biblical spouting “patriots” head cases?
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Published: Jan 23, 2007
Author: me
Post Date: 2007-01-23 09:25:29 by Jethro Tull
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Yeah, they are. I’m amazed at the arrogance of some self professed “patriot” Christians. IMHO, they do more to fracture those of us who get it than any elitist agenda ever could. They are unwitting foot soldiers of the globalists.
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#1. To: Jethro Tull (#0)
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Those who use biblical prophecy especially those that insert 'Ezekiel' into their forum responses to explain today's events need to be stoned with big rocks.
With what they say is going to happen to everyone else, you're letting them off easy. My vote goes for burned at the stake... in the name of Mercy. -Blackeagle
YES! And don't forget a book burning (please include all the versions they squabble over)
I'm tired of their petty squabbles, but I really don't want to burn a Bible. What I think would be even worse is the knowledge that their ashes would be buried with a Koran. -Blackeagle
Well, with these head cases it all depends on *which* bible is burnt. Apparently there are different versions and only THEY know the one which is real. As I said, they exhibit overt mental illness.
You're right, it is a severe mental illness. I used to be a Catholic. The scandals, the money grubbing preists, but mostly the people drove me away. I couldnt take the "if god wills it" mentality. The smile in my face on Sunday spit on me Monday acts. Why just this Sunday the church handed out petitions for an amendment to the Florida constitution banning embryonic stem cell research from public money. Like good sheep everyone signed it. I hate dealing with religious nuts across the board. -Blackeagle
To: Jethro Tull You're right, it is a severe mental illness. I used to be a Catholic. The scandals, the money grubbing preists, but mostly the people drove me away. I couldnt take the "if god wills it" mentality. The smile in my face on Sunday spit on me Monday acts. Why just this Sunday the church handed out petitions for an amendment to the Florida constitution banning embryonic stem cell research from public money. Like good sheep everyone signed it. I hate dealing with religious nuts across the board. The Catholics you describe are more the exception than the mainstream, unless the church has turned into some kind of holy roller hang out since I was last there as a "regular." I'm not sure what state you live in - if it's a Southern state maybe the Catholics got infected with the Bible Belt disease or something - but the Catholics I've known and my family are all practising Catholics except for me are pretty average people -flawed and not holier than thou- they definitely don't press their religion on strangers nor do they wear their religion on their sleeve like a badge of merit. And Catholics are not too terribly political - in fact, with their numbers, they could be far more political if they chose. As for priests molesters - that was very ugly - but the percentage of priests who molested was similar to other church's clerics or so I've read - what was bad was the Catholic church tried to cover it up. Also the priest molestation thingie was primarily isolated to American Catholic churches for some peculiar reason. As for money grubbing priests - the Catholic church is no different from other religions and certainly no worse than most.
I'm in the same boat as you, scrapper. What got me started on this rant is the outright hatred some otherwise kindred spirits have toward anything Catholic. The Catholics I know would stand with us on most issues, while never discussing religion. Who and what people choose to hold close is their business. IMHO, some people in this community of ours place religion and obscure conspiracies over the current events that are actively altering our culture and country. They divide rather than unify, and I find it impossible to keep quiet.
Catholics are one of the leading enablers of illegal immigration, JT. Them and evangelicals.
Catholics and Jews and mainstream Protestants and Buddhists - just about all religious leaders are big sympathizers to illegals and unbridled legal immigration generally - it's the leftie slant of most religions that is the major reason for support of the "poor and disenfranchised" - equality of man - no boundaries for God's children schtick. The Catholic leadership in S. California - Cardinal Mahoney - has been getting lots of publicity lately - pleading the case for Hispanic illegals - no secret why - Hispanics are Catholics. Also most Catholics I know are Democrats - and the Democrat Party itself is big on illegals - future Democrat voters, but not because Catholics exert any power within the Party - rather because of the party's self-serving reasons. Evangelicals - are probably one religious group who are not sympathetic to illegals - they are only interested in Rapture and Catholic Mexicans don't play a part in bringing Rapture.
Who is for or against open borders is not cut and dried. While I am against open borders - my reasons are not the same as those of others - my reasons being logical and rational while most of the other types want to close the border because of racial and religious reasons (irrational). In other words I am against open immigration for economic reasons more so than cultural ones. Those that argue cultural reasons are playing with a losing hand/argument and thus those are the types the media highlights. Thus the media wants people like you using those arguments fronting the closed border debate.
i'm in complete agreement with you on that one.
Economic reasons are the only reasons I see posted here.
I'll admit to being somewhat sad that the culture we knew is going, going, gone. It's okey and even encouraged for other minorities and ethnic groups to embrace their cultures, but if white people want to hold onto their's they are deemed biased, ignorant rednecks. I'm tired of labels and accusations and pretension, we should not have to give in by being labeled as stupid and evil if we don't like our culture being destroyed and ridiculed. Blacks are encouraged to embrace black culture, Jews embrace their culture and heritage, Asians the same and so on, but if white Americans want to retain their culture they get called racist and bigoted and to avoid being labeled as such they end up denying their own identity in order to fit in. It shouldn't have to be that way.
Just what culture is that? Richard W.
A few weeks before Christmas I was standing in line at the post office with a friend, she was in front of me and wanted to buy stamps. When she got to the counter she told the woman she wanted to buy some Christmas stamps. The postal worker woman told her they didn't have any this year, they only had Kwanzaa and Hanukkah stamps. My friend just stood there for a moment looking puzzled and then said nevermind and ended up not buying any stamps. She's Eskimo but they tend to be Christians and celebrate Christmas. All cultures matter and are important, but there's no good reason to kill off any of them, including traditional European Americana, for all it's good or bad depending on anyone's viewpoint.
All cultures matter and are important, but there's no good reason to kill off any of them, including traditional European Americana, for all it's good or bad depending on anyone's viewpoint. That's it? White American culture is celebrating Christmas? Holy shit, no wonder I couldn't figure it out. Richard W.
Richard W. No, that was just an example I was giving you of how traditional American values and customs are being blotted out. On the post before that I answered your question. I can tell you some things about traditional south Louisiana culture from the old days, but somehow I don't think you're really interested in that. I'm not passing any kind of judgement on other cultures, none, they are all interesting and tell the story of the various groups of mankind. However to destroy a culture, to blot out it's memory, is too much like an attempt to blot out a people. Look at any modern public school history textbook, many famous white men of the past are portrayed as bad men, as racists, with their accomplishments nowhere to be seen. I saw 5th grade and 7th grade textbooks recently and they presented the idea of white man as racist and destroyer. There are too many signs pointing to intentions to bring down people with European DNA, that does not make me a bigot, though in your mind it may, but I don't believe in genocide in any form, that's my point.
Well, I suppose if you are a native American kid sitting in a reservation school, that wouldn't be much of a reach, now would it. However, that is besides the point. I still want to know precisely what white American culture is cause I sure as heck am not going to worry about the extinguishing of something that can't even be specifically defined beyond European DNA. So tell me again what white American culture is. Richard W.
Richard W. It can best be defined as the transplanting of the European work ethic which gave birth to the previously unthinkable idea of individual liberty, which is "the mainspring of human progress". The enemies of white America seem to want to prosper by stealth, collectivist swindle or force. The notion that honest labor is its own reward is thought to be madness in the Marxist circles where your anti white views were heaved up. Indeed the very concept of justice as it can only be rationally defined (by Thos. Jefferson, not Judge Bruce Takasugi) is the product of Anglo-European jurisprudence. No African, Asian or swarthy peoples ever conceived of such a thing nor could they, lacking the necessary genes or intelligence to survive without avarice and plunder.
Including those Europeans the previous White Americans (WASPS) treated like subhumans like the Irish and Italians and Germans? "The Day We Celebrate" by American cartoonist Thomas Nast shows the Irish on St. Patrick’s Day as violent, drunken apes very akin to being blacks themselves.
That is a good point. These smug idiots who want to make it illegal to say anything about the degradation of whites taking place simplify things to such an extent that they "forget" that in Europe and America there have been clashes and wars between many of the ethnic groups under the heading of Caucasian. White people are not all the same no more than Africans or Asians are, though those who would have us all destroyed would like to think we are, it makes their job much easier. The English have looked down on the French, the Austrians don't appreciate the Romanians, the Iranians don't like the Afgans, I take it the Greeks and Turks don't like each other, it's just how people are but we all need to rise above it, though that won't happen in this life.
Many forget - especially certain White groups that have moved up the social ladder and entered WASP society - that some WASPs (not all WASPS) viewed these White European as nothing more than white niggers. For example: Prohibition was largely pushed forward thanks to hatred of Germans and their love of beer and beer gardens - especially drinking beer on - gasps - Sundays! With their families all in the beer garden! Shocking!! Or the fact that the Irish were treated as worse than niggers in America. Why should I as a German or Irish help the group who once considered my people to be niggers as well? What is to stop the dominant white group from turning on my people - who may be Catholic as well as Irish/German/Italian AGAIN once they eliminate the Blacks and Hispanics? Why do you assume because we are white in America we have common cause when the dominant White group of the past - the WASPS did not view other whites as equals? Read the following: http://www.ency clopedia.chicagohistory.org/pages/512.html Whole families met in brightly lit and comfortable pubs, and on Sundays women and children joined the men on excursions to the beer gardens. Much of this activity attracted criticism from Anglo-American elites, and the German American response to this criticism provided occasions for political organization along ethnic lines. Temperance and Sunday closing laws touched a similarly raw nerve, attacking fundamental issues of German sociability and way of life. Initially framed as a conflict between Anglo-American whiskey drinking and German beer culture, the liquor issue became a proxy for deeper ethnic divisions. Germans who allegedly wandered through the streets on Sundays, shouting, singing, and intimidating churchgoers and other pious citizens, were a thorn in the flesh of temperance advocates and church officials. German working men and women, who could meet with friends and fellow workers only on Saturday afternoons and on Sundays for leisure and pleasure, regarded the Sunday closing laws as an attack on their culturally specific habits and an infringement on their personal liberties and constitutional rights. For these working-class German Americans, Sunday closing merged class and ethnic interests more than any other issue.
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#4. To: Destro (#1)
#5. To: blackeagle (#4)
My vote goes for burned at the stake... in the name of Mercy.
#7. To: Jethro Tull (#5)
#9. To: blackeagle (#7)
but I really don't want to burn a Bible.
#15. To: Jethro Tull (#9)
#42. To: blackeagle, Jethro Tull (#15)
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I used to be a Catholic. The scandals, the money grubbing preists, but mostly the people drove me away. I couldnt take the "if god wills it" mentality. The smile in my face on Sunday spit on me Monday acts.
#46. To: scrapper2 (#42)
but the Catholics I've known and my family are all practising Catholics except for me are pretty average people -flawed and not holier than thou- they definitely don't press their religion on strangers nor do they wear their religion on their sleeve like a badge of merit. And Catholics are not too terribly political - in fact, with their numbers, they could be far more political if they chose.
#48. To: Jethro Tull (#46)
#57. To: Redheadedstranger, Jethro Tull, destro (#48)
Catholics are one of the leading enablers of illegal immigration, JT. Them and evangelicals.
#63. To: scrapper2 (#57)
#82. To: Destro (#63)
In other words I am against open immigration for economic reasons more so than cultural ones.
#83. To: christine, Destro (#82)
#190. To: robin, scrapper2, Destro, christine, Jethro Tull, HOUNDDAWG (#83)
Economic reasons are the only reasons I see posted here.
#217. To: Diana (#190)
if white Americans want to retain their culture they get called racist and bigoted
#239. To: Arete (#217)
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Just what culture is that?
#244. To: Diana (#239)
A few weeks before Christmas I was standing in line at the post office with a friend, she was in front of me and wanted to buy stamps. When she got to the counter she told the woman she wanted to buy some Christmas stamps. The postal worker woman told her they didn't have any this year, they only had Kwanzaa and Hanukkah stamps. My friend just stood there for a moment looking puzzled and then said nevermind and ended up not buying any stamps. She's Eskimo but they tend to be Christians and celebrate Christmas.
#249. To: Arete (#244)
That's it? White American culture is celebrating Christmas? Holy shit, no wonder I couldn't figure it out.
#255. To: Diana (#249)
I saw 5th grade and 7th grade textbooks recently and they presented the idea of white man as racist and destroyer.
#257. To: Arete, Diana, christine, rowdee (#255)
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I still want to know precisely what white American culture is cause I sure as heck am not going to worry about the extinguishing of something that can't even be specifically defined beyond European DNA. So tell me again what white American culture is.
#270. To: HOUNDDAWG, Arete, Diana, christine, rowdee (#257)
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It can best be defined as the transplanting of the European work ethic which gave birth to the previously unthinkable idea of individual liberty, which is "the mainspring of human progress".
#282. To: Destro (#270)
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Including those Europeans the previous White Americans (WASPS) treated like subhumans like the Irish and Italians and Germans?
#283. To: Diana, Jethro Tull, robin, HOUNDDAWG (#282)
Including those Europeans the previous White Americans (WASPS) treated like subhumans like the Irish and Italians and Germans?
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