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Title: Are biblical spouting “patriots” head cases?
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Published: Jan 23, 2007
Author: me
Post Date: 2007-01-23 09:25:29 by Jethro Tull
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Comments: 308

Yeah, they are. I’m amazed at the arrogance of some self professed “patriot” Christians. IMHO, they do more to fracture those of us who get it than any elitist agenda ever could. They are unwitting foot soldiers of the globalists.

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#1. To: Jethro Tull (#0) (Edited)

Those who use biblical prophecy especially those that insert 'Ezekiel' into their forum responses to explain today's events need to be stoned with big rocks.

Destro  posted on  2007-01-23   9:34:08 ET  Reply   Untrace   Trace   Private Reply  

With what they say is going to happen to everyone else, you're letting them off easy.

My vote goes for burned at the stake... in the name of Mercy.

-Blackeagle

blackeagle  posted on  2007-01-23   9:43:56 ET  Reply   Untrace   Trace   Private Reply  

My vote goes for burned at the stake... in the name of Mercy.

YES! And don't forget a book burning (please include all the versions they squabble over)

Jethro Tull  posted on  2007-01-23   9:47:55 ET  Reply   Untrace   Trace   Private Reply  

I'm tired of their petty squabbles, but I really don't want to burn a Bible.

What I think would be even worse is the knowledge that their ashes would be buried with a Koran.

-Blackeagle

blackeagle  posted on  2007-01-23   9:57:11 ET  Reply   Untrace   Trace   Private Reply  

but I really don't want to burn a Bible.

Well, with these head cases it all depends on *which* bible is burnt. Apparently there are different versions and only THEY know the one which is real. As I said, they exhibit overt mental illness.

Jethro Tull  posted on  2007-01-23   10:01:43 ET  Reply   Untrace   Trace   Private Reply  

You're right, it is a severe mental illness.

I used to be a Catholic. The scandals, the money grubbing preists, but mostly the people drove me away. I couldnt take the "if god wills it" mentality. The smile in my face on Sunday spit on me Monday acts.

Why just this Sunday the church handed out petitions for an amendment to the Florida constitution banning embryonic stem cell research from public money. Like good sheep everyone signed it.

I hate dealing with religious nuts across the board.

-Blackeagle

blackeagle  posted on  2007-01-23   10:42:00 ET  Reply   Untrace   Trace   Private Reply  

I used to be a Catholic. The scandals, the money grubbing preists, but mostly the people drove me away. I couldnt take the "if god wills it" mentality. The smile in my face on Sunday spit on me Monday acts.

To: Jethro Tull You're right, it is a severe mental illness.

I used to be a Catholic. The scandals, the money grubbing preists, but mostly the people drove me away. I couldnt take the "if god wills it" mentality. The smile in my face on Sunday spit on me Monday acts.

Why just this Sunday the church handed out petitions for an amendment to the Florida constitution banning embryonic stem cell research from public money. Like good sheep everyone signed it.

I hate dealing with religious nuts across the board.

The Catholics you describe are more the exception than the mainstream, unless the church has turned into some kind of holy roller hang out since I was last there as a "regular."

I'm not sure what state you live in - if it's a Southern state maybe the Catholics got infected with the Bible Belt disease or something - but the Catholics I've known and my family are all practising Catholics except for me are pretty average people -flawed and not holier than thou- they definitely don't press their religion on strangers nor do they wear their religion on their sleeve like a badge of merit. And Catholics are not too terribly political - in fact, with their numbers, they could be far more political if they chose.

As for priests molesters - that was very ugly - but the percentage of priests who molested was similar to other church's clerics or so I've read - what was bad was the Catholic church tried to cover it up. Also the priest molestation thingie was primarily isolated to American Catholic churches for some peculiar reason.

As for money grubbing priests - the Catholic church is no different from other religions and certainly no worse than most.

scrapper2  posted on  2007-01-24   11:57:55 ET  Reply   Untrace   Trace   Private Reply  

but the Catholics I've known and my family are all practising Catholics except for me are pretty average people -flawed and not holier than thou- they definitely don't press their religion on strangers nor do they wear their religion on their sleeve like a badge of merit. And Catholics are not too terribly political - in fact, with their numbers, they could be far more political if they chose.

I'm in the same boat as you, scrapper. What got me started on this rant is the outright hatred some otherwise kindred spirits have toward anything Catholic. The Catholics I know would stand with us on most issues, while never discussing religion. Who and what people choose to hold close is their business. IMHO, some people in this community of ours place religion and obscure conspiracies over the current events that are actively altering our culture and country. They divide rather than unify, and I find it impossible to keep quiet.

Jethro Tull  posted on  2007-01-24   14:33:34 ET  Reply   Untrace   Trace   Private Reply  

Catholics are one of the leading enablers of illegal immigration, JT. Them and evangelicals.

Redheadedstranger  posted on  2007-01-24   14:36:33 ET  Reply   Untrace   Trace   Private Reply  

Catholics are one of the leading enablers of illegal immigration, JT. Them and evangelicals.

Catholics and Jews and mainstream Protestants and Buddhists - just about all religious leaders are big sympathizers to illegals and unbridled legal immigration generally - it's the leftie slant of most religions that is the major reason for support of the "poor and disenfranchised" - equality of man - no boundaries for God's children schtick.

The Catholic leadership in S. California - Cardinal Mahoney - has been getting lots of publicity lately - pleading the case for Hispanic illegals - no secret why - Hispanics are Catholics. Also most Catholics I know are Democrats - and the Democrat Party itself is big on illegals - future Democrat voters, but not because Catholics exert any power within the Party - rather because of the party's self-serving reasons.

Evangelicals - are probably one religious group who are not sympathetic to illegals - they are only interested in Rapture and Catholic Mexicans don't play a part in bringing Rapture.

scrapper2  posted on  2007-01-24   15:12:27 ET  Reply   Untrace   Trace   Private Reply  

Who is for or against open borders is not cut and dried.

While I am against open borders - my reasons are not the same as those of others - my reasons being logical and rational while most of the other types want to close the border because of racial and religious reasons (irrational).

In other words I am against open immigration for economic reasons more so than cultural ones. Those that argue cultural reasons are playing with a losing hand/argument and thus those are the types the media highlights. Thus the media wants people like you using those arguments fronting the closed border debate.

Destro  posted on  2007-01-24   15:28:27 ET  Reply   Untrace   Trace   Private Reply  

In other words I am against open immigration for economic reasons more so than cultural ones.

i'm in complete agreement with you on that one.

christine  posted on  2007-01-24   17:42:11 ET  Reply   Untrace   Trace   Private Reply  

Economic reasons are the only reasons I see posted here.

robin  posted on  2007-01-24   17:45:35 ET  Reply   Untrace   Trace   Private Reply  

i agree, robin. for most here, that is the principle concern although many are averse to the multiculturalism ideology preferring a protectionist monocultural nation-state.

christine  posted on  2007-01-24   18:01:41 ET  Reply   Untrace   Trace   Private Reply  

The "cure" for most of those problems is the rate of assimilation. That's the argument put forward by Victor Davis Hanson in "Mexifornia". The rate has increased beyond what can be assimilated so the result is balkanization. He's no racist and neither am I. It's about a reasonable approach. The costs to our standard of living are difficult to estimate, the health costs (not just the once eradicated diseases), overcrowded schools, transportation, neighborhoods becoming barrios, etc.

I wouldn't be surprised if racism is increasing just because of the lack of controls.

robin  posted on  2007-01-24   18:07:30 ET  Reply   Untrace   Trace   Private Reply  

Mexicans do not have manufacturing jobs that allow them to move up the ladder like had existed for immigrants in our past who came from cultures even more alien to America than the Mexican/Spanish culture - You have to stretch credibility very much to say Mexican culture is more removed from American culture than say the culture of Greek Americans or Russian Jews or Lebanese Arab Christians or Armenians. Yet these people melded into American culture and contributed greatly to this nation's wealth because their parents could pull themselves out of poverty.

How will that happen with no jobs in California that can allow this assimilation and upward mobility? So it is not that Mexicans can't become Americans - there is no catalyst to help the assimilation process with the end of American manufacturing.

Destro  posted on  2007-01-24   19:13:26 ET  Reply   Untrace   Trace   Private Reply  

#92. To: Destro (#87)

You must not live in the SouthWestern part of the U.S.

Some of the illegals here own homes and drive nice cars. Their children, through education can reach any level of achievement they want. Look at our AG, Alberto Gonzales, he already said his grandparents came here without papers.

http://thinkprogress.org/2006/05/17/gonzales-grandparents-illegal/

BTW, Lou Dobbs is trying to get an investigation of why someone in a high level of the federal govt brough the whole force of the govt against two Border Patrol agents with exemplary 12 year records, and gave immunity to a Mexican drug dealer with $1 million in drugs.

robin  posted on  2007-01-24 20:24:02 ET  Reply   Untrace   Trace   Private Reply  

You have to stretch credibility very much to say Mexican culture is more removed from American culture than say the culture of Greek Americans or Russian Jews or Lebanese Arab Christians or Armenians. Yet these people melded into American culture and contributed greatly to this nation's wealth because their parents could pull themselves out of poverty.

Those groups didn't come to America in great numbers, and they are much more similar to Europeans than Mexicans are, being that they are mostly European.

Not everyone can assimilate completely into any group, to think they can is out of the blank-slate theory of the 1960s which mostly marxist types refuse to let go of even though it's been discredited for some time now.

For instance I am almost certain that Australian Aborigines would have a difficult time assimilating into Japanese society. Look at what a great job (not) the Arab muslims are doing with their assimilition into European culture.

Diana  posted on  2007-01-26 06:19:35 ET  Reply   Untrace   Trace   Private Reply  

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