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Title: Are biblical spouting “patriots” head cases?
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Published: Jan 23, 2007
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Post Date: 2007-01-23 09:25:29 by Jethro Tull
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Yeah, they are. I’m amazed at the arrogance of some self professed “patriot” Christians. IMHO, they do more to fracture those of us who get it than any elitist agenda ever could. They are unwitting foot soldiers of the globalists.
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#269. To: Diana, rowdee, Jethro Tull, christine (#258)
You folks make me proud. I don't mind explaining but, let's agree not to try to convert any indigenous or peregrine "natives", Mongols, bushmen or semi-Asiatics because they just don't have the genetic equipment to grasp the concept of freedom, morality or spiritual rewards with little tangible mass. If they can't steal it, redistribute it, eat, rape or make an equity loan against it then it's worthless by the measure of their five senses. The nations from whence these critics originated couldn't invent a fly swatter never mind things to feed and improve the world, so let's dispense with the notion of the white man's burden and give them nothing but directions to the nearest minority charity and birthing shelter.
"I don't know how he does it...but I'll tell you the bottom line... The man got a way with women...HE GOT AWAY WITH MINE!" ;)
Including those Europeans the previous White Americans (WASPS) treated like subhumans like the Irish and Italians and Germans? "The Day We Celebrate" by American cartoonist Thomas Nast shows the Irish on St. Patrick’s Day as violent, drunken apes very akin to being blacks themselves. "The desire to rule is the mother of heresies." -- St. John Chrysostom
There you go again.......Destro. I do not get involved with the 9/ll threads, so why drag my name into this issue, for cryin out loud. You've been scolded once for dragging another poster into a topic on which they had not commented. I'm sure you'll be much happier at LF or kos.
My apologies - I just cut and pasted all who were in the box.
"The desire to rule is the mother of heresies." -- St. John Chrysostom
I take that as an attempt to keep us from converting/naturalizing pygmies? Whatchu got ginst short peeples, Dawg? Short peeples with darts? How'd they come up with the idea of poisoning them darts? Doan that count for sumthin on part with a fly swatter, or nearly so?
Thank you.
Yes, you indeed have. Richard W.
Sorry, I was out mowing the grass and throwing the ball around with the kids. The little woman is busy baking pies up for the big church social. Richard W.
I'm staying registered Republican so I have a chance to vote for Ron Paul in the primaries.
You are either with the President, or you are for the Bill Of Rights.
That is a good reason - I respect Ron paul very much even if he is a dark horse candidate - he deserves support.
"The desire to rule is the mother of heresies." -- St. John Chrysostom
All the old Universities of Europe and the UK were originally started by the church. People like to make fun of the church and say it stifled learning (like the earth not being the center of the universe), but that's not the whole picture. IMO, the Christian values that our forebearers brought to this country are the ones we want to cherish and keep. But like Solomon and his many foreign wives with their many foreign gods, our nation is being corrupted from within. A wonderful ancillary post to the others, and I omitted your name among those flagged by mistake.
"I don't know how he does it...but I'll tell you the bottom line... The man got a way with women...HE GOT AWAY WITH MINE!" ;)
Yes, you indeed have. Richard W. So why did you bait me? I told you what you wanted to hear. Some things are hard to define, but if you watch tv or read the news or read magazines like The Week, it's quite obvious there's a war on traditional American values. We now have ubiquitous porn to demonize women, which used to be hard to find due to obscenity laws, we have tv shows such as CSI where the bad guys are too easy to spot as they are over-whelmingly white people with fair coloring, it's insulting, and you can't blame a whole race of people for crimes commited in the past by some of their members. I believe all people matter equally, that God loves all people, we all have a soul and should be treated with dignity. Perhaps you don't believe that and you are projecting your own prejudices onto me. I'm not a "white supremecist" just because I don't like what I see happening in this country, the degradation of all things held sacred, the attempted abolishment and ridicule of Christian ways, the demonizing of white Americans through history, even though in all people's history there are some dark areas, but the whole race's negative traits are screamed from rooftops these days. You can look your nose down at me, report me to the ADL or whatever it is people like you do, but you can't change facts, and you can't deny this insulting process is taking place. I think you are very dogmatic in your thinking and closed-minded as well. We'll all find out the truth in the end.
Just because people of European ancestry are being targeted these days doesn't mean other races are lesser than we are. All ethnic groups have good and bad points, and Asians and others have more highly developed traits than we do. I don't think it's about who is best because just as individuals have differences so do ethnic groups. I guess people like Arete don't want to acknowledge that because either he's a closet supremecist, or he truly believes in the blank- slate theory that we are all born exactly the same and are shaped solely by environment, though from his attitude I suspect it stems from his own supremecist mentality. We all have traits good and bad, interesting, funny and so on, but I firmly believe all people should be treated with respect and dignity, and I certainly don't believe in guilt by DNA, taking Eye for an Eye to the extreme. Who are people to decide that whole groups must be exterminated? That is playing God, or more likely the devil, and to pass judgement in that sort of way is the epitomy of evil no matter who does it.
That is a good point. These smug idiots who want to make it illegal to say anything about the degradation of whites taking place simplify things to such an extent that they "forget" that in Europe and America there have been clashes and wars between many of the ethnic groups under the heading of Caucasian. White people are not all the same no more than Africans or Asians are, though those who would have us all destroyed would like to think we are, it makes their job much easier. The English have looked down on the French, the Austrians don't appreciate the Romanians, the Iranians don't like the Afgans, I take it the Greeks and Turks don't like each other, it's just how people are but we all need to rise above it, though that won't happen in this life.
Many forget - especially certain White groups that have moved up the social ladder and entered WASP society - that some WASPs (not all WASPS) viewed these White European as nothing more than white niggers. For example: Prohibition was largely pushed forward thanks to hatred of Germans and their love of beer and beer gardens - especially drinking beer on - gasps - Sundays! With their families all in the beer garden! Shocking!! Or the fact that the Irish were treated as worse than niggers in America. Why should I as a German or Irish help the group who once considered my people to be niggers as well? What is to stop the dominant white group from turning on my people - who may be Catholic as well as Irish/German/Italian AGAIN once they eliminate the Blacks and Hispanics? Why do you assume because we are white in America we have common cause when the dominant White group of the past - the WASPS did not view other whites as equals? Read the following: http://www.ency clopedia.chicagohistory.org/pages/512.html Whole families met in brightly lit and comfortable pubs, and on Sundays women and children joined the men on excursions to the beer gardens. Much of this activity attracted criticism from Anglo-American elites, and the German American response to this criticism provided occasions for political organization along ethnic lines. Temperance and Sunday closing laws touched a similarly raw nerve, attacking fundamental issues of German sociability and way of life. Initially framed as a conflict between Anglo-American whiskey drinking and German beer culture, the liquor issue became a proxy for deeper ethnic divisions. Germans who allegedly wandered through the streets on Sundays, shouting, singing, and intimidating churchgoers and other pious citizens, were a thorn in the flesh of temperance advocates and church officials. German working men and women, who could meet with friends and fellow workers only on Saturday afternoons and on Sundays for leisure and pleasure, regarded the Sunday closing laws as an attack on their culturally specific habits and an infringement on their personal liberties and constitutional rights. For these working-class German Americans, Sunday closing merged class and ethnic interests more than any other issue.
"The desire to rule is the mother of heresies." -- St. John Chrysostom
Finally we're down to your total uselessness and purpose ... to impart a belief in left and right ... hahahahaha !!! I only wish you'd have "left" !
“The First Highest Masonic Council was, as we have already said, formed on 31st May 1801 in Charleston, 33 degrees northern latitude, under the chairmanship of the Jew Isaac Long, who was made inspector general by the Jew Moses Cohen, and who had received his degree from Hyes, from Franken, and the Jew Morin.”
Was that a typo??? I figured you meant redheadedchickenchoker.
No matter how noble the objectives of a government; if it blurs decency and kindness, cheapens human life, and breeds ill will and suspicion - it is an EVIL government. Eric Hoffer
An American culture is one without forced multicultural education with the presumption that all cultures are equal. They aren’t and scientific studies that suggest this should be embraced, rather than dismissed. An American culture is one where the Zionist Lobby doesn’t control our foreign policy by direct control over our elected representatives. We must recognize and oppose wars such as Iraq as being beneficial to Israel, and not America. An American culture is one where “Hate Speech” is a notion for enslaved nations. Am American culture is one where Al Sharpton and Jesse Jackson run from the law and not president. That WOULD be a good start!!! Then maybe we could work on a few more such as: An American culture is one which abides by and defends it's Constitution including the Bill of Rights An American culture is one in which it's elected officials recognize the fact that they work for us, NOT the other way around - and act accordingly by voting in Congress what their constituents' desire regardless of their personal whims. It also takes ACTION against TYRANTS that refuse to act this way. An American culture is one which does that which is best for it's own citizenry, and DOESN'T meddle in the affairs of other countries. An American culture is one that prohibits the practice of the 10 planks of the Communist Manifesto - as opposed to practicing all 10, just under a different name. WOW! This "America" sounds like a wonderful place!!! Can somebody please point me to it on a map??? I think I'd like to live there.
No matter how noble the objectives of a government; if it blurs decency and kindness, cheapens human life, and breeds ill will and suspicion - it is an EVIL government. Eric Hoffer
You are making an awful lot of assumptions there sweet pea. Richard W.
Europeans (once upon a time) embraced Christianty, which brought forward the idea of human rights, and the importance of the individual; not commonly accepted ideas 2,000 years ago. All the old Universities of Europe and the UK were originally started by the church. People like to make fun of the church and say it stifled learning (like the earth not being the center of the universe), but that's not the whole picture. IMO, the Christian values that our forebearers brought to this country are the ones we want to cherish and keep. But like Solomon and his many foreign wives with their many foreign gods, our nation is being corrupted from within. I was searching last night for 'America as Hephzibah', and ran across another article, that reiterates my belief that America is the New Israel, and this excerpt reiterates your statement re the Christian values that used to define this country. I don't agree with everything the author says, but it was written in 1857, and a lot more has come to light since then. Basically, however, he matches Biblical prophecy to the founding of this country, and the purposes for which God founded it. It's still a work in progress, but anyone who is not as blind as a bat, should be able to see God's hand guiding and molding this nation from the beginning. ".....The United States of America is the nationality that is promised in the prophetic Scriptures to arise in the latter times as Israel Restored. It has long been a favorite theory, both with Jewish and Christian writers, that the nationality to be gathered together in the latter days, was understood to mean the returned or restoration of the scattered sons of Abraham to the land of Palestine. We are not surprised at the confidence with which this opinion has been entertained from age to age, because it is a legitimate a priori interpretation, seeing this nationality is called "Israel" by the prophets. In a conversation had with a venerable Bishop of the Episcopal Church, he inquired of us: "Sir, by what construction of language do you make the great nationality, promised to arise in the latter times, to mean the United States? That the Bible authorizes us to expect such a nationality there can be no doubt; but how do you make out that nationality to be the United States of America, as it was promised to be Israel?" To which we replied: "Beloved Bishop, the predictions of the prophets are put up in Hebrew dress; the regalia is Mosaic, the custom is Israelitish. They did not say, friends of civil and religious liberty, Americans, or even Christians; but they used the best terms they had on hand: they said 'Israel.'" Only doff the subject of its Jewish robes, and the symmetrical proportions and sublimity of Christian republicanism are as perfectly delineated as a Grecian pillar. But we will now show that what is reasonable and legitimate is a true principle of interpretation, being authorized by the great Teacher from heaven. Said the disciples to our Lord, "Why say the scribes that Elias must first come?" for it is written, "Behold, I will send Elijah the prophet, before that great and notable day of the Lord." Jesus answered and said unto them, Elias is come already, and they knew him not, but have done unto him whatsoever they listed. Then the disciples understood that he spake unto them of John the Baptist." Now, suppose the difficulty of the pious Bishop were proposed to our Lord: "Master, by what construction of language do you make out that John the Baptist, the son of Zacharias and Elizabeth, is indeed Elias the prophet, which was to come, seeing he is in reality another man altogether?" Does not the same difficulty exist in both cases; and has not our Lord, by answering the objection in one case, removed it in the other? John was "the Elias which was for to come;" not because that was the name by which he was called in his generation among men, but because he came "in the spirit and power of Elias," thereby answering the moral portrait that was drawn by the pencil of inspiration, and was, consequently, declared by the Savior to be indeed the Elias. If, therefore, a great nationality is promised to arise in the latter days, and the United States of America exhibits the character of such nationality, as delineated by the pen of prophecy, arising "in the spirit and power" of Israel to come, and no other nation under heaven ever has or ever can answer the description, then, perfect coincidence being perfect fulfillment, our glorious republic is the nationality which was to be gathered together in the latter times under the prophetic name of Israel. Let it be remembered, that the term Israel was a cognomen of honor, and not the natural right of a Jew. God gave the appellation to Jacob, because "as a prince he prevailed with God. "While the children of Jacob maintained their integrity, they enjoyed this high distinction; but St. Paul defends the application of the term to Gentiles who may possess the proper claims to this honor. [robin:] But perhaps the most plausible bill of exceptions taken to our theory is presented here. It is suggested, with much apparent reason, that we are too wicked and unworthy a people to bear the honored title of Israel. Alas for us, my countrymen! Heaven knows full well that we are wicked enough; for when we consider the special providence of Almighty God, marvelously exercised over us from the very infancy of our organization, through every change of fortune -- what prosperity has crowned our cause -- how we have been guided and guarded by a Divine supervision, as virtually present as the holy Shekinah, "in a cloud by day, and a pillar of fire by night" -- and then look at the abominations that pollute our national escutcheon, it is humiliating in the extreme. Look at the blasphemy that outrages the highest obligation of created beings, marring the purest language on earth, in desecrating the name of the holiest Being in the universe. Look at the violation of even heathen honest, discrediting character in almost all gradations of society. See the frenzy of political parties, disrupting the very bonds of brotherhood; while blood and debauchery infect the air and pollute the earth, bribery, homicide, and murder transpire in the very halls of our nation's councils. But bad as we are, fellow-citizens, we are the very best people upon the face of the earth. The great heart of our magnanimous country beats responsive to the sighs and sorrows of all nations. Our peaceful land is the hospitable home for the oppressed of all countries. Our laws are the transcript of eternal justice. True, we have neither titled dukes nor hereditary lords, but the emoluments of profit and honor are offered to the deserving of all classes, and our loftiest promotions are accessible to the humblest poor. Though denounced abroad by all aristocracy that dooms its own pauper millions to proscription, beggary, and starvation, yet our institutions, which they fain would pity, are the pulsations of health, compared with the plague- spots of pestilential Europe. Already have three hundred thousand of our African population become the Christianized children of God -- a greater number of true Christian converts, heathens as their fathers were who first came amongst us, than are to be found in all the missions of all denominations upon the earth. We have colonized a happy republic also, upon the benighted shores of their fatherland. Our ministers of mercy have gone to every heathen shore, and preached glad tidings to almost every island that dots the bosom of the ocean. Beams of light, radiating from this central home of civil and religious liberty, already break upon the distant millions that weep in the shadow of death. When the noble Greek is crushed by the hoof of Turkish despotism, the halls of our Senate are eloquent with a sympathy that responds in the bosom of a whole people. When Poland, Hungary, and Italy struggle and fall, the hope of the American people struggles and falls with them. When the cry of starvation is heard from ill-fated Ireland, American transports are freighted with the numificent offering of a generous people. And, moved by a magnanimity which knows no parallel, our swift ships are dispatched to recover England's lost navigators in the regions of eternal snow. We have the one living and true God, one Savior, and one religion -- one Constitution, one Confederacy, one Republic, one nationality; therefore, a true religion and a true civil government is the Israel that was to come, the "nation born at once" -- born on the 4th of July, 1776. But let us not be misled by the consecrated name of Israel. For "all are not Israel who are called Israel. **** "A nation possessing the true religion, and enjoying an enlightened and liberal civil government, may have many unbelieving and rebellious people in its midst; and, doubtless, millennial glory, and **** the day of judgment also, will find both the righteous and the wicked, the just and the unjust, the wise and the foolish virgins, for the wheat and tares will grow together until the general harvest, "which is the end of the world." Even Israel restored to nationality will not be the Eden of bliss. It was in the brightest days of the Hebrew nation when the tribes of Jacob were led out to the solitudes of the desert to behold the glory of God revealed upon the sacred mountain. Clouds of awful grandeur encircled its brow. Lightnings rent the mantle of the sky, and deep-toned thunders rocked Mount Sinai from its glowing summit to its granite base. Then, where was Israel -- God's own Israel? Behold him at the foot of the hill making a golden calf! By the term of Israel, therefore, we mean to be understood, a providential nation, possessing the only true religion, and a divinely sanctioned form of civil government. Such, with all its sunshine and shadows, was ancient Israel, and such is the United States of America, and the United States of America alone. As to the scattered Jews -- who have long since lost all genealogical proof of their respective tribes -- forming such great nationality any where, that is supremely ridiculous. That they may return to Jewry, we think highly probable; because every thing formerly connected with that nation was typical. Their fiftieth, or Jubal year, was a time when the scattered Jews returned to their respective homes, and were put in possession or seized of their patrimonial estates. This custom may anticipate the jubilee of the world; that is, when republicanism shall become world-wide. Then the Jews, in masses, may return to Canaan; for the Almighty by deed of gift made Abraham and his posterity proprietors of that land. They may return and form a little Christian republic in Palestine. But to become the great national headship of the world, restore temple worship and priestly offerings, with all the gorgeous paraphernalia of its ancient sacerctotal splendor, is but the pious dream of fanaticism. This simplicity and spirituality of the religion of the Son of God forbids the idea; while the burdensome rites of the Jewish ritual have long since been discarded by the unostentatious loveliness and grace of a Christianity that claims to worship the Father "in spirit and in truth." But even the supposition that they will return and form a literal government in their ancient home may be a mistake. For those prophecies that seem to refer to their literal restoration are interpreted by many worthy divines to foretell their conversion to their long-rejected Savior. This is indeed plausible. "In foreign climes they'll cease to roam' Nor weeping, think on Jordan's flood: In every land they'll find a home, In every temple worship God." And so must it be. But if the Almighty designed to honor a people by raising them to become a great nationality, of whom is it probable such nationality would be composed? Let this question be settled by a plain principle of Divine revelation. Who are the Jews? A persecuted and disbanded people. Why are they persecuted? For rejecting the claims of the Son of God. From his very birth to this day they have, as a nation, derided and discarded him. They sealed the dreadful imprecation at his crucifixion: "His blood be upon us, and on our children." But there is another persecuted people -- the friends of civil and religious liberty. They have been hunted down in every land, like the hart of the mountains. They have been proscribed and execrated, outraged and banished, in every age; and, for conscience' sake, have been martyred by the million. Why were they persecuted, "scattered, and peeled?" For accepting and acknowledging Jesus Christ. Here, then, is the difference. Now, apply an infallible principle which must test this question. Said the adorable Savior, "If any man serve me, him will my Father honor." Is it, then, at all probable that God would honor a people by the promised glorious nationality, who have, as a nation, spurned the mercy of the Prince of peace, and obstinately persisted, before the eyes of all nations, in rejecting the clearest evidence of his Messiahship, during the long, long night of their wanderings; and yet, at the same time, pass by a people who, through every change of fortune, propitious and adverse, have firmly maintained their faith in Christ, and invincibly breasted the storms of persecuting vengeance for his glorious name's sake? Will heaven honor a people who dishonor his Son, and overlook a people who were ready to live and labor and suffer and die in his blessed cause? The case being self-evident, and the rule to determine our judg ment infallible, the decision must be inevitable. Christianity mourns the ill-fated children of a divinely chosen and illustrious ancestry, and ardently prays for their conversion to Christ. But even this glorious consummation our faith beholds far in the distance. That the Jews will ultimately embrace Christianity, we entertain no doubt; but they will be the last nation on the face of the earth that will be converted. For "the blindness that has happened to Israel" will remain "until the fullness of the Gentiles is brought in." That is, the Gentile world will be converted to God before the blindness of infidelity will be removed from Israel. To suppose the conversion of the Jewish nation to be the means of converting the Gentile world, is, consequently, directly opposed by the words of the apostle. In their case we behold the verification of another gospel maxim: "the first shall be last, and the last first." They were the first to hear the blessed tidings of man's redemption from the lips of its glorious Author, "but they received him not." And the Apostle Paul, in his valedictory to his own countrymen, declares, "seeing that ye judge yourselves un worthy of eternal life, lo, we turn to the Gentiles." So, also, the melting strains that mingled with the tears of the Son of God over their devoted city announced the same calamity. "0 Jerusalem, Jerusalem, thou that killest the prophets, and stonest them which are sent unto thee; how often would I have gathered thy children together even as a hen gathereth her chickens under her wing, and ye would not . . . If thou hadst known, even thou, the things which belong unto thy peace, at least in this thy day, but now are they hid from thine eyes... Henceforth is your house left unto you desolate; for I say unto you, ye shall not see me henceforth till ye shall say, Blessed is he that cometh in the name of the Lord." That is, Ye shall see me no more until you will be rejoiced to hail me as your Messiah. This is, doubtless, its true meaning. There are very many passages of Scripture which are universally admitted by the learned and judicious to foretell the rise of a great nationality in the latter times. These predictions cannot, by any reasonable construction, be applied to the rise of such nationality in the land of Judea; but are most wonderfully descriptive of the United States of America, and of no other country under heaven.........." http://www.ori ginofnations.org/old_bi_literature/Pitts.htm ....and for the folks who don't like being persecuted for their race, Irish, German, Italian, etc., but feel like they should denigrate others for being "niggers", Mongols, and the like, they should know that God's plan for America includes ALL the races [John 3:16/Gal. 3:16-29/Rev. 5:9-10], and anyone who doesn't like it, will have to get over it, or be forced to find a new home when He takes over. Wait till you get to the part about the North American Union! I knew it....it's all part of God's plan: "Judge nothing till the LORD come.....and all will have praise of God." ".....Third. That wonderful country was to be inhabited by a people "gathered out of the nations. "Ezekiel 38. Not of one nation collected together that had been scattered amongst other nations, but, what is obviously the sense of the passage, composed of people of different nations. This is so prominent a character of the glorious nationality to come, that the prophets seem to dwell upon it with rapture and inspired eloquence. "Lift up thine eyes round about, and see,' all they gather themselves together, they come to thee: thy sons shall come from far, and thy daughters be nursed by thy side. Then thou shall see, and flow together and thy heart shall fear, and be enlarged; for the abundance of the sea shall be converted (turned) unto thee, the forces of the Gentiles shall come unto thee ... Who are these that fly as a cloud, and as doves to their windows?" The prophet enriches his sublime description by images drawn both from the animal and the vegetable kingdom: "The multitude of camels shall cover thee, the dromedaries of Midian and Ephah; all they from Sheba shall come All the flocks of Kedar shall be gathered together unto thee .... The glory of Lebanon shall come unto thee, the fir tree, the pine tree, and the box together. "Isaiah 40. As if the holy seer had said, Emigration shall come from the land where the dromedaries roam; they shall come from the land where the fir tree blooms. "Therefore thy gates shall be open continualy: they shall not be shut day nor night." Did ever such a tide of emigration set into any country since the creation of the world as continually swarms to our hospitable shores'?. Indeed, the citizens of these States, or their fathers, have come from every country under heaven. But the prophet enters into detail. "Strangers shall stand and feed your flocks, and the sons of the alien shall be your plowmen and your vinedressers ... And the sons of strangers shall build your walls, and their kings shall minister unto thee." Now, the walls of a country's defense are its public improvements; and it is notorious that the sons of strangers build most of our public works. " The sons also of them that afflicted thee shall come bending unto thee; and all they that despised thee shall bow themselves down at thy feet." [my note: see Rev. 3:9] The sons of the very soldierly that invaded your coasts, murdered your people, and burnt your towns and villages, should come to make your country their home; and those who sneered at your experiment of popular freedom, attempted to crush it in the cradle, predicted the downfall of American Independence, and that liberty would die with Washington, and with his dust receive the same rites of sepulture - yes, even they should come and seek a refuse and a home in your happy land. How imposing the picture drawn by the pencil of inspiration here; and how wonderfully true in its fulfillment. [here it comes: The North-South American Union, and immigration policy according to God - everyone is not gonna like this:] Fourth. In the promised nationality, unlike the political economy of ancient Israel, foreigners were to be allowed a place to dwell, enjoy their homes and the pursuits of happiness in common with the citizens of the country; but it seems from the prophet, the rights of suffrage and eligibility of office were only to be enjoyed by those strangers who had lived long enough in the land to raise their native-born children: "And it shall come to pass, that ye shall divide it by lot for an inheritance unto you, and to the strangers that sojourn among you, which shall beget children among you: and they shall be unto you as born in the country among the children of Israel; they shall have inheritance with you among the tribes of Israel. Ezekiel 47:22,23 There could be no propriety in characterizing the class of foreigners who should be blessed with children born in the land, from the stranger who is only a sojourner, whose residence is but recent and transient, unless peculiar privileges were understood to belong to the fathers of native-born children. As we lay no claims to the politician, we will be allowed strongly to approve of this interesting feature in the economy of restored Israel. Our land should always be the welcome home of foreigners; but, at the same time, they should remain long enough to appreciate our blessings, learn our laws, and the genius of our wonderful constitution, before they aspire to dictate or to govern. Fifth. The principle of extension, in enlarging the boundaries of their primary possessions should specially characterize the prosperity of the promised nationality. "Lift up thine eyes round about, and behold: all these gather themselves together, and come to thee ... For thy waste and desolate places shall even now be too narrow, by reason of the inhabitants, and they that swallowed thee up (the autocracy of the Old World) shall be far away, (beyond the sea.) The children which thou shalt have, (in this land,) after thou hast lost the other, (ancient Israel,) shall say again in thy ears, The place is too strait for me: give place to me that I may dwell." Isaiah 49:18, 20. Extension seems to be the genius of our free institutions. From thirteen States, we have already multiplied into thirty-one, besides nine territories that soon will be ready to enter into the Union. **** We need give ourselves no uneasiness about Mexico, Cuba, and Central America. Monarchy and anarchy must melt away in the immediate proximity of a glorious republic: while the natural interests of those countries will impel them to seek annexation, that they may also enjoy in common with us the benign blessings of our happy confederacy, **** Indeed, the words of prophecy, legitimately interpreted, warrant that the domain of this nationality will embrace the entire continent of North and South America. For its "dominion shall be from sea to sea, and from the river unto the ends of the earth. "We know this passage is usually applied to Christ, to which we make no objection. But will you restrict it to him? If so, you greatly diminish the universal triumphs of his reign. We are taught that his sway shall be illimitable, and every knee shall bow and pay homage to him. But the passage before us is a clear territorial grant, issued by Divine authority, and must mark the boundaries of Israel that was to come. The geographical description can be found applicable to no other country but ours. Here the grant finds all of its metes and bounds. "From sea to sea;" from the Atlantic to the Pacific Ocean. '!And from the river:" the Mississippi, the father of waters, with its sixty thousand miles of tributary navigation, and the incalculable tonnage of its transports. "Unto the ends of the earth.'" **** to the most remote promontories in the North, and to Terra del Fuego and Cape Horn in the South. We must be excused from dwelling further on the emigration that was to come to this land. These predictions are very numerous and wonderfully accurate -- inspired predictions, that never have been realized, and never can be, unless they are fulfilled in the New World. We will, however, notice one other. Behold, these shall come from far; and, lo, these from the North and from the West; and these from the land of Sinim." Isaiah 49:12. Now, all commentators agree that "Sinim" is China. The fact is, it was its true ancient name: Thinim, Thina, or China. It is so put down in the ancient maps. And China lies "north" and "west," or north-west of us. In the message of Ex- Governor Bigler, of California, some two years ago, it is there published that there were then some sixty thousand Chinese in that State. Now, no commentator questions that this passage describes emigration coming to the land of restored Israel, for the whole continent comfirms it. But how are the Chinese to come from China to Palestine and come from the north-west? It is impossible. **** Here is a promise made of emigration from a distant country, whose inhabitants have never been known to mingle with other nations; here their true ancient name is given; here is the very direction which they were to come; and here is a fulfillment upon a most magnificent scale. Perfect coincidence being perfect fulfillment, our position is demonstration. [here comes Ezekiel 38-39/Rev. 20:7-20, my first post on the thread, but not, Russia, so much as the antiChrist Jews and their confederacy:] Sixth. The land of restored Israel is described as a country restored from its desolations, by the peculiar construction of its towns and villages, and the prosperity and quietude of its inhabitants. In the invasion of this land, at the last great battle, by Russia and the autocracy of the Old World, the prophet thus addresses the power that leads that invasion: "After many days thou shalt be visited: thou shalt come into tile land that is gathered out of many people, against the mountains of Israel, which have been always waste; but it is brought out of the nations, and they shall dwell safely all of them ... Thou shalt say, I will go up to the land of un walled villages,' I will go to them that are at rest, that dwell safely, all of them dwelling without walls, and having neither bars nor gates. To take a spoil, and to take a prey;' to turn thy hand upon the desolate place that are now inhabited, and upon the people that are gathered out of the nations; which have gotten cattle and goods, that dwell in the midst of the land. "Ezekiel 38.'8, 11, 12. Here, my countrymen, is almost a daguerreotype portraiture of your own land. We very much question whether Ezekiel, the prophet ever saw an "unwalled" city in his life. Surely, if old Palestine is to be brought back again to her more than ancient splendor, "unwalled" cities and villages will not be found there. This passage, therefore, can never be applied to Judea; for all her cities were walled, from Jericho to Jerusalem. This remarkable description of the numerous villages and cities, and the possessions, prosperity, and security of the people, is a grand and graphic delineation of the United States of America, and of no other country on earth............." The United States Of America Foretold In The Holy Scriptures by Rev. F. E. Pitts Feb. 22 and 23, 1857 http://www.ori ginofnations.org/old_bi_literature/Pitts.htm I still contend there is a difference between AMERICA [Ezekiel 17:1-6] and the Corporation known as the UNITED STATES [Ezekiel 17:7-10/Mat. 15:13 ]. The United States was still perceived as being "good" in the days this was written, but that was before the leaven of the Pharisees leavened the whole lump, and before they defiled America [Micah 4:11]. [Diana #280]: "....if you watch tv or read the news or read magazines like The Week, it's quite obvious there's a war on traditional American values. We now have ubiquitous porn to demonize women, which used to be hard to find due to obscenity laws, we have tv shows such as CSI where the bad guys are too easy to spot as they are over-whelmingly white people with fair coloring, it's insulting, and you can't blame a whole race of people for crimes commited in the past by some of their members. I believe all people matter equally, that God loves all people, we all have a soul and should be treated with dignity. Perhaps you don't believe that and you are projecting your own prejudices onto me. I'm not a "white supremecist" just because I don't like what I see happening in this country, the degradation of all things held sacred, the attempted abolishment and ridicule of Christian ways, the demonizing of white Americans through history, even though in all people's history there are some dark areas, but the whole race's negative traits are screamed from rooftops these days.........." well said, Diana.
btw, I didn't find mention of Hephzibah, until the very bottom of the article: "....Preserved as "an handful of corn scattered on the summit of the mountains, a little one has become a thousand, and a small one a strong nation." "It is the Lord's doings, and marvelous in our eyes;" for according to his promise, "the Lord has hastened it in his time." 0 happy America! O favored children of the free! when will the great heart of they mighty people fully know God and the salvation of his Son! "Then Gentiles and kings shall see thy glory, and thou shalt be called by a new name, which the mouth of the Lord shall name. Thou shalt no more be termed Forsaken: neither shall thy land any more be termed Desolate: but thou shalt be called Hephzibah, and thy land Beulah: for the Lord delighteth in thee. "Then shall thy glory continue; for "Thy sun shall no more go down, neither shall thy moon withdraw itself; for the Lord shall be thine everlasting light, and the days of thy mourning shall be ended." + + + + + + + + + + + + + + + + + + + http://www.bluelette rbible.org/kjv/Isa/Isa062.html#4 http://www.bluelette rbible.org/kjv/Isa/Isa062.html#4 ============================================
sorry....meant to send that to you, as well.
Only when they conduct dialogue with ignoramuses that haven't any knowledge of scripture or curiosity related to them. Most of the instigators of these argumentative threads are simply too stupid or too lazy to study and would prefer to just bitch or poke fun and ridicule others that do study. [Sorta like casting pearls to illiterate piglets].
“The First Highest Masonic Council was, as we have already said, formed on 31st May 1801 in Charleston, 33 degrees northern latitude, under the chairmanship of the Jew Isaac Long, who was made inspector general by the Jew Moses Cohen, and who had received his degree from Hyes, from Franken, and the Jew Morin.”
Face it, it don't matter anymore. It's one for the history books. An issue of faith and belief, facts be damned. Literally, no one wishes to trace the real story of 911 down. The evidence is there at many, many sites - the myriad trails linking Jihadis, the USG and various Sunni countries. But that opens up the issue of American support for Jihadis....... Let it go, Destro, you'll drive yourself nuts. The Russians, the Serbs, the Indians and the French are all well aware of America's reliance on the Saudis, and having dealt out enough cash, the Saudis are safe. Out in the real world, 911 is not of any concern at all. Focusing on the mechanics of 119, the "truthers" have relegated themselves into the margins, loudly chanting in the echo chamber, without any desire or interest to look into America's post ww2 history supporting Islami fundies. Inshallah.
richaard, meant to include you, too....and meant not the double post on the scripture link, but to include this: http://www.blueletterb ible.org/tsk_b/Isa/62/4.html for further understanding.... "land shall be married" Rev 21:2 And I John saw the holy city, new Jerusalem, coming down from God out of heaven, prepared as a bride adorned for her husband. Rev 21:9 And there came unto me one of the seven angels which had the seven vials full of the seven last plagues, and talked with me, saying, Come hither, I will shew thee the bride, the Lamb's wife. Rev 21:10 And he carried me away in the spirit to a great and high mountain, and shewed me that great city, the holy Jerusalem, descending out of heaven from God, New Jerusalem the Bride http://www.historicist.com/ojnj /ojnj6.htm [sorry it's a WHITE Christian Identity site, but other than that, it's pretty good.] noone222: I know; I know....and they are running out of time, I think....the time is fast approaching when the author steps onto the stage....and then it will be too late for those who refused to believe. They will rage and howl, but reject the reward for our travail: Thou shalt no more be termed Forsaken: neither shall thy land any more be termed Desolate: but thou shalt be called Hephzibah, and thy land Beulah: for the Lord delighteth in thee. "Then shall thy glory continue; for "Thy sun shall no more go down, neither shall thy moon withdraw itself; for the Lord shall be thine everlasting light, and the days of thy mourning shall be ended." Eze 34:22 Therefore will I save my flock, and they shall no more be a prey; and I will judge between cattle and cattle. Eze 34:23 And I will set up one shepherd over them, and he shall feed them, [even] my servant David; he shall feed them, and he shall be their shepherd. Eze 34:24 And I the LORD will be their God, and my servant David a prince among them; I the LORD have spoken [it]. Eze 34:25 ¶ And I will make with them a covenant of peace, and will cause the evil beasts to cease out of the land: and they shall dwell safely in the wilderness, and sleep in the woods. Eze 34:26 And I will make them and the places round about my hill a blessing; and I will cause the shower to come down in his season; there shall be showers of blessing. Eze 34:27 And the tree of the field shall yield her fruit, and the earth shall yield her increase, and they shall be safe in their land, and shall know that I [am] the LORD, when I have broken the bands of their yoke, and delivered them out of the hand of those that served themselves of them. Eze 34:28 And they shall no more be a prey to the heathen, neither shall the beast of the land devour them; but they shall dwell safely, and none shall make [them] afraid. Eze 34:29 And I will raise up for them a plant of renown, and they shall be no more consumed with hunger in the land, neither bear the shame of the heathen any more. Eze 34:30 Thus shall they know that I the LORD their God [am] with them, and [that] they, [even] the house of Israel, [are] my people, saith the Lord GOD. Eze 34:31 And ye my flock, the flock of my pasture, [are] men, [and] I [am] your God, saith the Lord GOD.
This knowledge hasn't put a dent in the illegal invasion or the development of the NAU, both of which will destroy what's left of this nation. Religion is one of the many reasons those of us who are aware of these schemes can't unify.
Jethro, no disrespect intended in this response. The big picture is a spiritual one in many people's opinion. However, in order to come to this awareness a dedicated study of scripture is conducive to understanding the enemy that we all want to fight. And they're "huge". Anyway, a little forebearance goes a long way.
“The First Highest Masonic Council was, as we have already said, formed on 31st May 1801 in Charleston, 33 degrees northern latitude, under the chairmanship of the Jew Isaac Long, who was made inspector general by the Jew Moses Cohen, and who had received his degree from Hyes, from Franken, and the Jew Morin.”
Could you meld this down into just a handful of paragraphs in YOUR OWN WORDS as to what this person is attempting to get across, or the point attempting to be made. To me, it seems like just a conglomeration of mumbo jumbo words. Sorry, I apparently am missing a big point you are trying to make. :(
Yep, and Amen. And goodnight, all...rest well.
This knowledge hasn't put a dent in the illegal invasion or the development of the NAU, both of which will destroy what's left of this nation. Religion is one of the many reasons those of us who are aware of these schemes can't unify. Funny, that's what the Bible says, as Pitt explained: "....The division of the fourth empire, as represented by the feet and toes, symbolizes the ten kingdoms, which according to Bishop Newton, was the exact number that actually did arise from the old Roman empire; but that the iron and clay in the feet and toes symbolized the union of Church and Stale, and nothing else. With this interpretation of the words of the angel perfectly agree, and are impressively intelligible: "Whereas' thou sawest iron mixed with miry clay, they shall mingle themselves with the seed of men: but they shall not cleave one to another, even as iron is not mixed with clay. "That is, as a perfect chemical amalgam with the two cannot be formed, because the ingredients will not adhere, so the union of Church and State will never be happy in its combination -- never a harmonious and peaceful union -- but a illegitimate commerce, ***** unsanctioned by the will of God, and runiounous, to the best interests of the human family. "They shall mingle themselves with the seed of men." That is, a superior order of men will join an inferior order: or the Church shall be joined to the State, and, consequently such a government must always be partly strong and partly broken -- a politico-ecclesiastical concubinage that would curse the nations of the earth. Carnally speaking, I don't like the illegal invasion any better than you do, but I know there is a purpose for God allowing it. It should be obvious, as well, that you can fight against something all day long, but if something is "of God", in the final analysis, nothing you do will matter. Men have been fighting God for thousands of years, and He always wins out in the end. Carnally, I hope I'm wrong, and wish you well in your endeavor to stop the invasion. Spiritually, I believe I am correct, and I don't want to be fighting against God's will, and be damned. I'll concentrate on other areas that I know He would approve of. The nation of America won't be destroyed [II Samuel 7:10 says after He has brought His people [true Israel/the church] into their new land, THEY WON'T BE MOVED ANYMORE]; the Jewish corporation known as the United States, the New Babylon, the bane of the world, will end. Ezekiel 17:1- 10/Matthew 15:13]. This has all been a lesson for God's people, true Israel. In I Samuel 8, the first Israel rejected Him from ruling over them. He told them what to expect in the way of the king they wanted. Read about it, and think about what's happening right now, and see if you don't agree. In Ezekiel 20:33- 38, He declared I WILL rule over you, with a stretched out arm, and with fury poured out: and I will bring you out from the people, and will gather you out of the countries wherein ye are scattered, with a mighty hand.......And I will bring you into the wilderness of the people, and there will I plead with you face to face. Like as I pleaded with your fathers in the wilderness of the land of Egypt, so will I plead with you....And I will cause you to pass under the rod, and I will bring you into the bond of the covenant: and I will purge out from among you the rebels, and them that transgress against me.......... This has its final fulfillment in the church in America. America is where He has chosen to place His Mt. Zion [Psalm 2:6]. It will be the way He wants it to be. If He wants to extend our borders to the whole continent, He will. It may be that they become just "the hills surrounding His mountain" and that once the yoke is lifted off us, and consequently the whole world, a lot of those here now, will go back home. A lot of them would rather be there, if they had not been so oppressed, in order to drive them as a fifth column against America. There is a passage in the Bible to that effect, about people going back to where they came from when God has accomplished all He intends to do. I personally don't think we are going to be able to stop the merger. I think they are just doing God's work for Him. At one point He may just step in and say thank you, Now all nations have become mine. Personally, I also hope this happens before that superhighway is built. There is another passage about them "dividing His land for gain", and He's not too happy about it. Pat Robertson is always applying it to that place in the middle east, but it refers to America. You might not agree, and you might not believe it, but neither did the first Israel believe God, and you can read Josephus [Josephus, Jewish Wars at preteristarchive.com] to see how well he made good on His word.
Exactly. Thank you. When we have 40 million deceived Christians in America willing to spend blood and money to bomb the Middle East into submission and in the hopes of starting WWIII, for the benefit of the Zionist state, what better way to make them stop and say Wait, a minute, why should we do that for a bunch of murderers and thieves....WE're Israel, God's chosen people living in God's New Jerusalem, and our God is the Prince of Peace. WHY are we doing this??? Their Achilles heel is that we unite the church and draw others to our cause" "....Let us, above all, make it impossible for Christians to be reunited, or for non-Christians to join the Church; otherwise the greatest obstruction to our domination will be strengthened and all our work undone. Our plot will be unveiled, the Gentiles will turn against us, in the spirit of revenge, and our domination over them will never be realized. Let us remember that as long as there still remain active enemies of the Christian Church, we may hope to become Master of the World . . . And let us remember always that the future Jewish King will never reign in the world before Christianity is overthrown . . . " (London Catholic Gazette, February, 1936; and in Paris Le Reveil du Peuple). [B'nai B'rith speech in red at the bottom of the page:"
1st let me offer that it's easier to prove who is not "the chosen" than to prove who is. When considering Palestine/Jerusalem and their proper "citizens" it's easier to demonstrate that those claiming it currently are not rightful possessors, but trespassers. Plus, people will call you a bigot and worse if you tell them they are most probably descendants of the original 10 tribes. [Even if you show them that only one group of people have actually demonstrated operation and fulfillment of the many promises made to Abraham and his descendants]. Just for grins go to the library and look up the International Quality of Life Index and note the top 12 Nations Quality of Life ... these have fulfilled the Promises. Or even easier, look to see if these people that are today called Jews have even fulfilled "ONE" of the Promises made to Abraham.[Hint: The Jews haven't fulfilled even one].
“The First Highest Masonic Council was, as we have already said, formed on 31st May 1801 in Charleston, 33 degrees northern latitude, under the chairmanship of the Jew Isaac Long, who was made inspector general by the Jew Moses Cohen, and who had received his degree from Hyes, from Franken, and the Jew Morin.”
He's saying that America is the New Israel/New Jerusalem. ALL Christians are the PEOPLE Israel...Israel is the Church [and this includes the Old Testament faithful]: http://www.preteristarchive.com/PartialPreterism/provan-charles_dd_01.html America is their homeland...the COUNTRY of Israel, the Beloved City of Rev. 20:9...the NEW Jerusalem....the place big enough to hold all the "seed" of Abraham, the number of which would be like the stars....Gal. 3:16-29 : And if ye are Christ's, then are ye Abraham's seed, and heirs according to the promise.
noone, I find those things interesting, but I also find them devisive and maybe not quite Biblical. In the first place, how would anyone know if they were related to the 10 tribes. There are no genealogical records, and besides people have intermarried for thousands of years...supposing they were originally Abraham's kids, and then married the devil's kids. What then? And how do we know Abraham was white, anyway? And how do we know what race some of his wives were? Jacob loved Joseph, the father of Ephraim and Manasseh [Ephraim becoming one of the symbols of Israel and also another of the many names for Jesus http://www.preteristarchive.com/StudyArchive/j/jesus-is- israel.html ] and made him a coat of many colors. I think this symbolizes God's love for ALL the races. Furthermore, Isaiah 49:6 says God would not only raise the twelve tribes, but also the Gentiles: Isa 49:6 — And he said, It is a light thing that thou shouldest be my servant to raise up the tribes of Jacob, and to restore the preserved of Israel: I will also give thee for a light to the Gentiles, that thou mayest be my salvation unto the end of the earth. http://www.blueletterb ible.org/tsk_b/Isa/49/6.html He prophecied that He would take of the Gentiles to be His priests and "Levites": Isa 66:21 And I will also take of them for priests [and] for Levites, saith the LORD. [These are not priests as a lot of people shudder to think of priests, but simply "shepherds" and teachers, or pastors (not the Pat Robertson type).] In Acts 8, the "Angel of the Lord" came and told Philip to go to the Ethiopian eunuch ["can an ETHIOPIAN CHANGE HIS SKIN, or a leopard his spots"] to preach to him. The Ethiopian ended up BELIEVING ON CHRIST and getting baptized. Connecting the dots, Gal. 3:16-29 declares that the black Ethiopian is also the seed of Abraham. The "Angel" sealed this with a miracle by transporting Philip to another city in the blink of an eye [travel mode for the future?], so this "Angel" was in reality, Jesus. In my mind, God foresaw the squabble over skin, and settled the issue once and for all...He so loved THE WORLD, (that He came and died on the cross so) that ALL who believed would not perish but have everlasting life....with Him....in His kingdom. I agree with you on the "Jews"...They are not Israel [Ezekiel 34/John 10]. A true Jew is one who is circumcised in the heart, and not the flesh, i.e., is a Christian. The antiChrist "Jews" are the synagogue of Satan. Rev. 2:9/3:9.
sorry...not Abraham's wives....JACOB'S wives. and by the way, wasn't there a CANAANITE in the woodpile of Jesus...Rahab, I believe? Not to mention, the twelve tribes married into all the people God told them not to.....the Canaanite, the Hittites, the Hivites, etc. etc. The twelve tribes were never a pure race to begin with.
This one needs a little more study: [Hint: Ignore Paul, or better yet, find two more witnesses to this claim]. Also, I once considered myself a Christian until I realized that qualified me as "pagan" ... which I'm not. I believe the Scriptures offer us the truth if we mature in study and develop discernment. The Almighty can only be worshipped in "Spirit" and "Truth" ... I am working diligently to acquire that illusive "TRUTH" driven by the "SPIRIT". A mighty powerful priesthood (cult) exited Babylon when whatever occurred that is Biblically portrayed as the Tower of Babel. The inheritors of this priesthood (cult) reside today in Rome, (and elsewhere as agents of Rome) and are still the overseers of humanity through subservient nation States for the time being. (A better term for True-Jews is Babylonians) and that is where you'll discover the Mystery of Iniquity which is the International Monetary System, enforced through international law merchant ... a Pyramid of top down Power.)
“The First Highest Masonic Council was, as we have already said, formed on 31st May 1801 in Charleston, 33 degrees northern latitude, under the chairmanship of the Jew Isaac Long, who was made inspector general by the Jew Moses Cohen, and who had received his degree from Hyes, from Franken, and the Jew Morin.”
2. Jacob loved Joseph, the father of Ephraim and Manasseh [Ephraim becoming one of the symbols of Israel and also another of the many names for Jesus http://www.preteristarchive.com/StudyArchive/j/jesus-is- israel.html ] and made him a coat of many colors. I think this symbolizes God's love for ALL the races. 3. Connecting the dots, Gal. 3:16-29 declares that the black Ethiopian is also the seed of Abraham. 4. He so loved THE WORLD, (that He came and died on the cross so) that ALL who believed would not perish but have everlasting life .... 1. I don't think there's any way outside of divine intervention to be proof positive about our geneology. However, there is much that can be considered regarding this subject with respect to Jacob. While I'm not certain about Abraham's "whiteness" it's clear he was semetic (descended from Shem). Also, we know that Jacob's mom (Rebecca) and Abraham's wife Sarah were "fair". {Sarah was also Abraham's half-sister} We also know that Esau angered his and Jacob's mom, Rebecca, by marrying outside his race. Rebecca instructed Jacob not to do the same thing, and later he was sent to visit Rebecca's brother (his uncle on his mom's side) named Laban in order to marry one of his cousins (or more). [Laban in hebrew means to be white]. Jacob's whole purpose in going to his uncle's house to find a bride was to marry within his own race, which was the accepted practice in that era, so besides his wives Rachel and Leah, it's probable that the handmaidens were also acceptable for child bearing with respect to race, but we can't be certain. Inter-racial marriages were frowned upon or forbidden in most tribes/clans at that time and it has only recently become semi-accepted in modern society. My personal perspective really doesn't matter, as God is the potter and we are the clay. The Scriptures also tell us that the bloodlines are purified after 10 generations. Sometimes we have to acknowledge that man's wisdom is simply foolishness to God and accept his authority to do with the pot as he chooses, always trusting that the end result is what he has determined it to be from ancient times. And always remember that no one comes to him that isn't first "called" ... 2. Joseph married an Egyptian woman and she bore Ephraim and Manasseh. Here again we cannot determine positively the race of this woman, and have to rely upon and accept that God can do whatever he chooses. Gen 41:45 And Pharaoh called Joseph's name Zaphnathpaaneah; and he gave him to wife Asenath the daughter of Potipherah priest of On. [On is a city in Egypt]. (sidenote:) I personally think preterism is total bullshit. (Everyone can have an opinion but the way things are going preterism loses its impact. I think it's funny that we feel it necessary to have every answer or to have it figured out ... but there are many undone matters that would have had to have been completed in order for preterism to be a valid condition. I refuse to argue about this and simply suggest one do their own research. Was the coat of many colors "plaid" like kilts ... some very well preserved 5000 year old caucasion bodies (and they had red hair) were found in the China dessert and they were wearing plaid clothing. I find it terribly interesting. [SIDENOTE: I just want to insert here that I am not a racist bigot, but more of a humble-ist (if there is such a word). I know that God looked upon what he had created after the 6th day and said "it is very good. Well, that's good enough for me. Again, I'm reminded to repeat that I think it's more important to expose the imposters (fake Jews) in order to derail the "chosen People" propaganda garbage that allows them to subject the world to their nastiness and is a significant factor in instigating WW III. If you wish to think the coat of many colors represents that God loves all races that's your choice. Scripture proves that he doesn't LOVE ALL RACES. See Obadiah. 3. This is a stretch, (and says no such thing) and a somewhat difficult scripture allegedly written by Paul. This Scripture deals with "promise" and "inheritance" ... and I am still researching the notion of "salvation/ (promise)" and "Redemption/(inheritance)". The Creator is the great Lawmaker, and accordingly must honor it. These are difficult subjects for us to comprehend because we're limited or finite beings with certain indoctrinations. Keep in mind the gospel story of the woman attempting to request healing for her daughter. Jesus called her a dog, indicating that she wasn't entitled to the blessing, yet he healed her daughter. Was he being a bigot ? (I don't think so because if he were God in the flesh he can't lie.) 4. "ALL" things are possible for them that love the Lord. Again, this is one of those mysterious things that I and a million other people (like you) want to know to a certainty ... good luck ! In the first place, how would anyone know if they were related to the 10 tribes. The Creator is the only one that needs to know who's genetically related to Israel/Jacob. Troublemakers try to make bigots out of anyone that comes to conclusions indicating western Europeans are the lost 10 tribes. I think the fake Jews are the root cause behind these accusations of bigotry through a variety of indoctrinational programs that everyone is subjected to like the media and education because it serves their "chosen people" agenda. Ask yourself the pertinent questions. Why are you obsessed with a thirst for knowing ? Are his laws written in your heart ? Do you Trust the Potter to operate his will in your life ? Then relax and know that you are his.
“The First Highest Masonic Council was, as we have already said, formed on 31st May 1801 in Charleston, 33 degrees northern latitude, under the chairmanship of the Jew Isaac Long, who was made inspector general by the Jew Moses Cohen, and who had received his degree from Hyes, from Franken, and the Jew Morin.”
I've been thinking about this thread since your second to last post, but have not had the time to address it as I should. I scanned your latest post, and just wanted to mention one thing, while I am trying to close out the [old] windows on this slow-as-molasses computer....I will hopefully get back to this soon...... SIDENOTE: I just want to insert here that I am not a racist bigot, but more of a humble-ist (if there is such a word). I know that God looked upon what he had created after the 6th day and said "it is very good. Well, that's good enough for me. Again, I'm reminded to repeat that I think it's more important to expose the imposters (fake Jews) in order to derail the "chosen People" propaganda garbage that allows them to subject the world to their nastiness and is a significant factor in instigating WW III. we're on the same page there. If you wish to think the coat of many colors represents that God loves all races that's your choice. Scripture proves that he doesn't LOVE ALL RACES. See Obadiah. yes, addressed to Esau/EDOM: http://www.blueletterb ible.org/kjv/Oba/Oba001.html I need to study that scripture, but I have a hunch it was at least partially fulfilled, and no longer holds true for the physical seed of Edom who have become CHRISTIANS: Amo 9:11 ¶ In that day will I raise up the tabernacle of David that is fallen, and close up the breaches thereof; and I will raise up his ruins, and I will build it as in the days of old: Amo 9:12 That they may possess the remnant of Edom, and of all the heathen, which are called by my name, saith the LORD that doeth this...... http://www.bluelett erbible.org/kjv/Amo/Amo009.html#12 [the "tabernacle of David" is the New Temple, the Christian Church. God's people are CALLED BY HIS [new] NAME: Eph 3:14 ¶ For this cause I bow my knees unto the Father of our Lord Jesus Christ, Eph 3:15 Of whom the whole family in heaven and earth is named, http://www.blueletterbible.org/tsk_b/Eph/3/15.html ] I don't reject Paul....I think the "Paul controversy" is a Jewish plot against the church. ================================================ Jer 31:29 In those days they shall say no more, The fathers have eaten a sour grape, and the children's teeth are set on edge. -------------------------------------------------------------------------------- Jer 31:30 But every one shall die for his own iniquity: every man that eateth the sour grape, his teeth shall be set on edge. -------------------------------------------------------------------------------- Eze 18:2 What mean ye, that ye use this proverb concerning the land of Israel, saying, The fathers have eaten sour grapes, and the children's teeth are set on edge? Eze 18:3 [As] I live, saith the Lord GOD, ye shall not have [occasion] any more to use this proverb in Israel. Eze 18:4 Behold, all souls are mine; as the soul of the father, so also the soul of the son is mine: the soul that sinneth, it shall die. Eze 18:5 ¶ But if a man be just, and do that which is lawful and right, Eze 18:6 [And] hath not eaten upon the mountains, neither hath lifted up his eyes to the idols of the house of Israel, neither hath defiled his neighbour's wife, neither hath come near to a menstruous woman, Eze 18:7 And hath not oppressed any, [but] hath restored to the debtor his pledge, hath spoiled none by violence, hath given his bread to the hungry, and hath covered the naked with a garment; Eze 18:8 He [that] hath not given forth upon usury, neither hath taken any increase, [that] hath withdrawn his hand from iniquity, hath executed true judgment between man and man, Eze 18:9 Hath walked in my statutes, and hath kept my judgments, to deal truly; he [is] just, he shall surely live, saith the Lord GOD. Eze 18:10 ¶ If he beget a son [that is] a robber, a shedder of blood, and [that] doeth the like to [any] one of these [things], Eze 18:11 And that doeth not any of those [duties], but even hath eaten upon the mountains, and defiled his neighbour's wife, Eze 18:12 Hath oppressed the poor and needy, hath spoiled by violence, hath not restored the pledge, and hath lifted up his eyes to the idols, hath committed abomination, Eze 18:13 Hath given forth upon usury, and hath taken increase: shall he then live? he shall not live: he hath done all these abominations; he shall surely die; his blood shall be upon him. Eze 18:14 ¶ Now, lo, [if] he beget a son, that seeth all his father's sins which he hath done, and considereth, and doeth not such like, Eze 18:15 [That] hath not eaten upon the mountains, neither hath lifted up his eyes to the idols of the house of Israel, hath not defiled his neighbour's wife, Eze 18:16 Neither hath oppressed any, hath not withholden the pledge, neither hath spoiled by violence, [but] hath given his bread to the hungry, and hath covered the naked with a garment, Eze 18:17 [That] hath taken off his hand from the poor, [that] hath not received usury nor increase, hath executed my judgments, hath walked in my statutes; he shall not die for the iniquity of his father, he shall surely live. Eze 18:18 [As for] his father, because he cruelly oppressed, spoiled his brother by violence, and did [that] which [is] not good among his people, lo, even he shall die in his iniquity. Eze 18:19 ¶ Yet say ye, Why? **** doth not the son bear the iniquity of the father? When the son hath done that which is lawful and right, [and] hath kept all my statutes, and hath done them, **** he shall surely live. Eze 18:20 ***** The soul that sinneth, it shall die. !!!!!! The son shall not bear the iniquity of the father, neither shall the father bear the iniquity of the son: the righteousness of the righteous shall be upon him, and the wickedness of the wicked shall be upon him. Eze 18:21 ¶ But if the wicked will turn from all his sins that he hath committed, and keep all my statutes, and do that which is lawful and right, he shall surely live, he shall not die. Eze 18:22 All his transgressions that he hath committed, they shall not be mentioned unto him: in his righteousness that he hath done he shall live. Eze 18:23 Have I any pleasure at all that the wicked should die? saith the Lord GOD: [and] not that he should return from his ways, and live? Eze 18:24 ¶ But when the righteous turneth away from his righteousness, and committeth iniquity, [and] doeth according to all the abominations that the wicked [man] doeth, shall he live? All his righteousness that he hath done shall not be mentioned: in his trespass that he hath trespassed, and in his sin that he hath sinned, in them shall he die. Eze 18:25 ¶ Yet ye say, The way of the Lord is not equal. Hear now, O house of Israel; Is not my way equal? are not your ways unequal? Eze 18:26 When a righteous [man] turneth away from his righteousness, and committeth iniquity, and dieth in them; for his iniquity that he hath done shall he die. Eze 18:27 Again, when the wicked [man] turneth away from his wickedness that he hath committed, and doeth that which is lawful and right, he shall save his soul alive. Eze 18:28 Because he considereth, and turneth away from all his transgressions that he hath committed, he shall surely live, he shall not die. Eze 18:29 Yet saith the house of Israel, The way of the Lord is not equal. O house of Israel, are not my ways equal? are not your ways unequal? Eze 18:30 ¶ Therefore I will judge you, O house of Israel, every one according to his ways, saith the Lord GOD. Repent, and turn [yourselves] from all your transgressions; so iniquity shall not be your ruin. Eze 18:31 Cast away from you all your transgressions, whereby ye have transgressed; and make you a new heart and a new spirit: for why will ye die, O house of Israel? Eze 18:32 For I have no pleasure in the death of him that dieth, saith the Lord GOD: wherefore turn [yourselves], and live ye. http://www.bluelette rbible.org/kjv/Eze/Eze018.html#2 Jesus said the Royal Law of Scripture was to love your neighbor as yourself. The Bible also says He will have mercy on those who have mercy. I hold out hope these decent descendants of Esau will be saved. Remember Esau had red hair. So do a lot of Celts! So did a lot of Khazars! They could be descendants of Esau/Edom! I'd hate to be the one to tell a red-haired Irishman he will not be saved because he was descended from Esau! lol. Revelation 5:9-10 says Christians will come from ALL nations. That would have to include AT LEAST a remnant of the Edomites. Note that the Israelites married into the forbidden tribes: Eze 16:3 — And say, Thus saith the Lord GOD unto Jerusalem; Thy birth and thy nativity [is] of the land of Canaan; thy father [was] an Amorite, and thy mother an Hittite. http://www.bluelette rbible.org/kjv/Eze/Eze016.html#3 http://www.blueletterb ible.org/tsk_b/Eze/16/3.html The Amorites were children of CANAAN: http://www.bluelett erbible.org/kjv/Gen/Gen010.html#16 In Ezekiel 38, God calls DEDAN "His people Israel": Eze 38:11 And thou shalt say, I will go up to the land of unwalled villages; I will go to them that are at rest, that dwell safely, all of them dwelling without walls, and having neither bars nor gates, Eze 38:12 To take a spoil, and to take a prey; to turn thine hand upon the desolate places [that are now] inhabited, and upon the people [that are] gathered out of the nations, which have gotten cattle and goods, that dwell in the midst of the land. Eze 38:13 Sheba, and Dedan, and the merchants of Tarshish, with all the young lions thereof, shall say unto thee, Art thou come to take a spoil? hast thou gathered thy company to take a prey? to carry away silver and gold, to take away cattle and goods, to take a great spoil? Eze 38:14 ¶ Therefore, son of man, prophesy and say unto Gog, Thus saith the Lord GOD; In that day when my people of Israel dwelleth safely, shalt thou not know [it]? ........... http://www.bluelett erbible.org/kjv/Eze/Eze038.html#14 DEDAN, likewise, is eiher a son of HAM, or a son of a concubine [and Hebrews did not make servants of their Hebrew brethren]: 1) the son of Raamah and grandson of Cush. A son of Jokshan and grandson of Keturah Gen 10:6 ¶ And the sons of Ham; Cush, and Mizraim, and Phut, and Canaan. Gen 10:7 And the sons of Cush; Seba, and Havilah, and Sabtah, and Raamah, and Sabtecha: and the sons of Raamah; Sheba, and Dedan. http://www.bluelette rbible.org/kjv/Gen/Gen010.html#7 1Ch 1:32 Now the sons of Keturah, Abraham's concubine: she bare Zimran, and Jokshan, and Medan, and Midian, and Ishbak, and Shuah. And the sons of Jokshan; Sheba, and Dedan. that's only a start......I hope it shows that God does indeed love ALL the races. I'm ready to tear my hair out over this computer....will have to come back after I deal with everything on here, and reboot.
If he is a loving God it seems to me he should. Each person should be judged for their character and what is in their heart.
I will clarify my point. Since the events of Kosovo coupled with 9/11 I no longer find that what passes as the conservative movement in America matches my own views on what it is to be conservative. I grew up out of the movement of the right but now I view it with contempt especially the ones that see Black Helicopters buzzing in the sky and were of the mind that the UN was about to invade America in the 90s. I realize that through no fault of my own the right wing movement I was linked to was in bed with what I now call a wing-nut movement and since I renounced the Republican party and became a registered independent I am looking to find a home for fellow RATIONALISTS and CONSTITUTIONALISTS. Someplace where Ezekiel and prophecy don't came up when discussing events overseas. Know a place like that?
"The desire to rule is the mother of heresies." -- St. John Chrysostom
#270. To: HOUNDDAWG, Arete, Diana, christine, rowdee (#257)
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It can best be defined as the transplanting of the European work ethic which gave birth to the previously unthinkable idea of individual liberty, which is "the mainspring of human progress".
#271. To: Destro (#263)
BTW, there have been long threads on 9/11 from which many, many excellent points were made that Destro never responded to,
#272. To: rowdee (#271)
There you go again.......Destro. I do not get involved with the 9/ll threads, so why drag my name into this issue, for cryin out loud. You've been scolded once for dragging another poster into a topic on which they had not commented.
#273. To: HOUNDDAWG (#269)
#274. To: Destro (#272)
#275. To: Diana (#258)
Okey, I have written this absurd post for you
#276. To: Diana (#262)
So now you disappear after all that?
#277. To: Destro (#154)
I just resigned from the GOP and became a registered independent.
#278. To: PnbC (#277)
#279. To: robin (#260)
Europeans (once upon a time) embraced Christianty, which brought forward the idea of human rights, and the importance of the individual; not commonly accepted ideas 2,000 years ago.
#280. To: Arete, All (#275)
Okey, I have written this absurd post for you
#281. To: HOUNDDAWG, Arete (#269)
I don't mind explaining but, let's agree not to try to convert any indigenous or peregrine "natives", Mongols, bushmen or semi-Asiatics because they just don't have the genetic equipment to grasp the concept of freedom, morality or spiritual rewards with little tangible mass.
#282. To: Destro (#270)
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Including those Europeans the previous White Americans (WASPS) treated like subhumans like the Irish and Italians and Germans?
#283. To: Diana, Jethro Tull, robin, HOUNDDAWG (#282)
Including those Europeans the previous White Americans (WASPS) treated like subhumans like the Irish and Italians and Germans?
#284. To: Destro (#150)
I agree - that is a problem with the left - PC.
#285. To: Jethro Tull (#267)
redheadedchickenplucker
#286. To: Jethro Tull (#261)
Here are a few things I'd like to see corrected/restored:
#287. To: Diana (#280)
You can look your nose down at me, report me to the ADL or whatever it is people like you do, but you can't change facts, and you can't deny this insulting process is taking place. I think you are very dogmatic in your thinking and closed-minded as well. We'll all find out the truth in the end.
#288. To: robin, Diana, rowdee, HOUNDDAWG, Destro, noone222 (#260)
#289. To: Jethro Tull (#288)
#290. To: robin, Diana, christine, lodwick, Red Jones, noone222 (#289)
#291. To: AllTheKings'HorsesWontDoIt (#290)
Are biblical spouting “patriots” head cases?
#292. To: Destro (#268)
#293. To: richard915, noone222 (#289)
#294. To: AllTheKings'HorsesWontDoIt (#289)
btw, I didn't find mention of Hephzibah, until the very bottom of the article:
#295. To: Jethro Tull (#294)
This knowledge hasn't put a dent in the illegal invasion or the development of the NAU,
#296. To: AllTheKings'HorsesWontDoIt (#288)
#297. To: Jethro Tull (#294)
Religion is one of the many reasons those of us who are aware of these schemes can't unify.
#298. To: Jethro Tull, lodwick (#294)
#299. To: noone222 (#295)
The big picture is a spiritual one in many people's opinion. However, in order to come to this awareness a dedicated study of scripture is conducive to understanding the enemy that we all want to fight. And they're "huge".
#300. To: AllTheKings'HorsesWontDoIt (#299)
When we have 40 million deceived Christians in America willing to spend blood and money to bomb the Middle East into submission and in the hopes of starting WWIII, for the benefit of the Zionist state, what better way to make them stop and say Wait, a minute, why should we do that for a bunch of murderers and thieves....We're Israel, God's chosen people living in God's New Jerusalem, and our God is the Prince of Peace. WHY are we doing this???
#301. To: rowdee (#296)
#302. To: noone222 (#300)
#303. To: noone222 (#302)
And how do we know what race some of his wives were?
#304. To: AllTheKings'HorsesWontDoIt (#302)
A true Jew is one who is circumcised in the heart, (hocus-pocus)
#305. To: AllTheKings'HorsesWontDoIt (#302)
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1. In the first place, how would anyone know if they were related to the 10 tribes. There are no genealogical records, and besides people have intermarried for thousands of years...supposing they were originally Abraham's kids, and then married the devil's kids. What then? And how do we know Abraham was white, anyway? And how do we know what race some of his wives were?
#306. To: noone222 (#305)
#307. To: AllTheKings'HorsesWontDoIt (#306)
......I hope it shows that God does indeed love ALL the races.
#308. To: bluedogtxn (#160)
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You aren't going to find perfection on any site. But good hunting.
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