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Title: Are biblical spouting “patriots” head cases?
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Published: Jan 23, 2007
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Post Date: 2007-01-23 09:25:29 by Jethro Tull
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Yeah, they are. I’m amazed at the arrogance of some self professed “patriot” Christians. IMHO, they do more to fracture those of us who get it than any elitist agenda ever could. They are unwitting foot soldiers of the globalists.

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What is with this new trend of women-bashing?

You oght to read Lakoff's book "Don't think of an Elephant", about potitical framing. Bashing women is part and parcel of the new "conservativism" which is neither conservative nor new.

the law, in its majestic equality, forbids the rich as well as the poor to sleep under bridges, beg in the streets and steal bread.

bluedogtxn  posted on  2007-01-26   9:58:59 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  

Buck is a respected and model poster at LF. He posts there regularly, now.

Chop-chop....

Jethro Tull  posted on  2007-01-26   10:01:35 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  

So apply the advice you give to others about "doing concrete things" and start researching and posting articles on subjects you want discussion and opinions on.

scrolling through and for some reason that jumped out at me....richard posted an article that got 19 views the last time I looked [at least two were mine], that presented a huge problem with a concrete solution and nobody seems interested....I wondered last night where everyone was, now I know....

richard's thread [two actually] on CAFR's

Scam On American Taxpayers

http://freedom4um.com/cgi-bin/readart.cgi?ArtNum=44241

CAFRs Government Control and You

http://freedom4um.com/cgi-bin/readart.cgi?ArtNum=44249

http://www.blueletterbible.org/kjv/Mic/Mic004.html#13

http://www.blueletterbible.org/tsk_b/Mic/4/13.html

AllTheKings'HorsesWontDoIt  posted on  2007-01-26   10:03:47 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  

Buck is a respected and model poster at LF. He posts there regularly, now.

Yeah, what happened to that guy who used to post as 'American' over there?

He was wicked smot...

“Yes, but is this good for Jews?"

Eoghan  posted on  2007-01-26   10:20:33 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  

You need to dismount from your exceedingly tall horse and develop some communication skills--relax and have some discussions based on what you want the forum to focus on. Different strokes for different folks was a lesson I brought with me thru life from a Leadership and Motivation Seminar I attended.

He did admit earlier in this thread that he needs to work on his humility... At least he recognizes that, he is fun to argue with too. Plus isn't he only 23 or something?

Diana  posted on  2007-01-26   10:21:30 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  

JT this thread is getting increasingly pathetic, but what the hell, I'm keeping your thread going,anyway, in spite of Palo-lite and Litest.

"How legitimate is the Onion as a source?"----noone222

Redheadedstranger  posted on  2007-01-26   10:23:56 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  

http://www.blueletterbible.org/kjv/Mic/Mic004.html#13

re: verse 10

I think Babylon here is spiritual, but here is another article that sheds more light on my first post, of America as "Israel".

richard...I think you'll appreciate this:

"The Talmud is the teaching of the Pharisee and originated in Babylon. It was sent out into the world in 1040 AD from Babylon. [Note - that is why the captors and plunderers named the tax form the 1040]....."

GOING TO "BABYLON"

GOING TO BABYLON GOING TO THE PROPHETS AND TO BABYLON. By. Pastor Peter Peters. There is a prophetic significance to American troops going to Babylon and to the dates the ... http://www.scripturesforamerica.org/book%20files/GOING%20TO% 20BABYLON2.htm [It's a very interesting read.]

and blast from the past...

4um: Who Owns You? GOING TO THE PROPHETS AND TO BABYLON By Pastor Peter Peters. http://www.scripturesforamerica.org/book%20files/GOING% 20TO%20BABYLON2.htm ... **** http://freedom4um.com/cgi-bin/readart.cgi?ArtNum=19215

AllTheKings'HorsesWontDoIt  posted on  2007-01-26   10:24:23 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  

Plus isn't he only 23

That's...1/6 of your own age, isn't it?

"How legitimate is the Onion as a source?"----noone222

Redheadedstranger  posted on  2007-01-26   10:26:21 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  

Moreover, it further doesn't help that this board is run by women. A board run by women can only reach a certain, low level of prominence. I have said as much to Goldi-lox, on several occassions,(sic) on LP, and I have no fear of repeating it here.

So if you are an honest, intelligent and un-feminized (sic) member of this site you won't be offended by my frankness, because you will be among the 10% of decent posters.

And here you see what happens when potty training goes badly.

The hand that rocks the cradle rules the world.

Not only will his debilitating misogyny forever prevent him from having a meaningful relationship with a woman, but he uses poor grammar, syntax and spelling in this pitiful attempt to convince himself that he's our intellectual superior. ("If there's one word that describes me, it's profection!")

Even if that's true, who else but a sad, lonely, angry, habitual porn consuming masturbator would care about such a thing?

Those of us who were nurtured lovingly by our mothers know that always there will be greater and lesser among us, and we derive no ego crutch from the delusion that we're "superior" to 100% of one sex and 90% of the other.

I submit that exceptional individuals never get caught trumpeting their "gifts" for the world to "admire".

And, if they are indeed incapable of loving or being loved by women (hey, some moms have good reasons I'm sure) then the best of life is passing them by, and who would want to be among them?

"I don't know how he does it...but I'll tell you the bottom line...

The man got a way with women...HE GOT AWAY WITH MINE!" ;)

HOUNDDAWG  posted on  2007-01-26   10:32:22 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  

Now Great Britain is a mixed mess, and last night I posted an article on Australia and it's failed attempt to assimilate races.

When I was in high school in the 70s I had this idea that I wanted to move to Australia. I really checked into it and found out that they had very strict immigration laws, only white people could move there and you had to have a skill that an Australian didn't have. It was almost impossible to move there, so I gave up on that idea, not that it would have panned out anyway as I was 15 and my family would not have allowed it, but it was a thought.

How things have changed there since! Of course this is not happening to the Asian countries with homogeneous populations. In fact I believe they are still allowed to have strict immigration laws so that their countries do not become destroyed too. It would be interesting to find out Japan's immigration laws, I think I'll look that up.

Diana  posted on  2007-01-26   10:53:52 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  

Just what culture is that?

Richard W.

Anymore that's a good question as we've been inundated with other cultures for a few decades now. I can tell you much more about African-American culture for instance as white American traditions have been purposely blotted out.

I know the PTB would like for people to think that white culture is living in trailers, drinking beer, watching sitcoms on a broken-down tv set, eating fast food, burping, collecting guns, having promiscuous sex, and hating black people, though I don't think they are focusing so much on hating black people these days oddly. Maybe their days are numbered too.

Since I didn't live in the old days it would be harder for me to answer that question. Most of my life that sort of thing has been discouraged, but I think of white culture as styles of art, music, literature, architecture, values, hobbies and customs, cooking, manners, fashion, etc. though back when all that still existed they were regional depending on which part of the US you lived in.

Diana  posted on  2007-01-26   11:11:47 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  

i doubt anyone cares, beyond some amusement value, about his 'legend in his own mind' pitiable offerings here or anywhere.

christine  posted on  2007-01-26   11:14:31 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  

Just what culture is that?

A few weeks before Christmas I was standing in line at the post office with a friend, she was in front of me and wanted to buy stamps. When she got to the counter she told the woman she wanted to buy some Christmas stamps. The postal worker woman told her they didn't have any this year, they only had Kwanzaa and Hanukkah stamps. My friend just stood there for a moment looking puzzled and then said nevermind and ended up not buying any stamps. She's Eskimo but they tend to be Christians and celebrate Christmas.

All cultures matter and are important, but there's no good reason to kill off any of them, including traditional European Americana, for all it's good or bad depending on anyone's viewpoint.

Diana  posted on  2007-01-26   11:19:58 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  

Historians agree that the Vandals were no more destructive than other invaders of ancient times. During the Enlightenment, Rome was idealized, so the Goths and Vandals were disparaged.

Funny how that works.

The more corrupt the state, the more numerous the laws. – Tacitus

robin  posted on  2007-01-26   11:27:15 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  

Bashing women is part and parcel of the new "conservativism" which is neither conservative nor new.

It certainly isn't conservative, using the genuine definition, in the least.

It strikes me as very odd.

Diana  posted on  2007-01-26   11:29:55 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  

Good analysis and summary.

BTW, there have been long threads on 9/11 from which many, many excellent points were made that Destro never responded to, skipping over all meaningful discussion and posting remarks like the one above and posting one poor quality image (ignoring all the videos we directed him to), to make his "case" (which is the govt version of 9/11).

The more corrupt the state, the more numerous the laws. – Tacitus

robin  posted on  2007-01-26   11:33:29 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  

JT this thread is getting increasingly pathetic, but what the hell, I'm keeping your thread going,anyway, in spite of Palo-lite and Litest.

I so wish I could reach your intellectual level but you know how it is with us females...

So I'm Palo-lite, who is Litest? If you don't want beneath yourself by answering me you can tell JT.

Diana  posted on  2007-01-26   11:34:47 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  

A few weeks before Christmas I was standing in line at the post office with a friend, she was in front of me and wanted to buy stamps. When she got to the counter she told the woman she wanted to buy some Christmas stamps. The postal worker woman told her they didn't have any this year, they only had Kwanzaa and Hanukkah stamps. My friend just stood there for a moment looking puzzled and then said nevermind and ended up not buying any stamps. She's Eskimo but they tend to be Christians and celebrate Christmas.

All cultures matter and are important, but there's no good reason to kill off any of them, including traditional European Americana, for all it's good or bad depending on anyone's viewpoint.

That's it? White American culture is celebrating Christmas? Holy shit, no wonder I couldn't figure it out.

Richard W.

Arete  posted on  2007-01-26   11:34:56 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  

Plus isn't he only 23 That's...1/6 of your own age, isn't it?

No, I'm not that old, I'm only 93.

That partly explains my goofiness. I just might make it to 138 though, you never know...

Diana  posted on  2007-01-26   11:39:20 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  

i just perused the latest posts on LF. i don't see that they've got posted any better quality or quantity of articles than we have here.

christine  posted on  2007-01-26   11:43:22 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  

i doubt anyone cares, beyond some amusement value, about his 'legend in his own mind' pitiable offerings here or anywhere.

Point taken.

As you know I sometimes counsel young lost men when opportunities present, because I can't help but feel sympathy when I see them adrift.

But, if I was a woman I wouldn't give them anything until they learn to respect their mothers. If they do that then many of their demons will leave on their own. And, then some charitable gals (the generosity of women never ceases to amaze me) can finish the job of making men of them.

"I don't know how he does it...but I'll tell you the bottom line...

The man got a way with women...HE GOT AWAY WITH MINE!" ;)

HOUNDDAWG  posted on  2007-01-26   11:50:03 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  

He did admit earlier in this thread that he needs to work on his humility

Diana, I think you missed the tongue in his cheek. This person would not admit he/she/it could be wrong if his/hers/its life depended upon such confession.

And that is sad...........about as pathetic as the one whining against wimmen.

rowdee  posted on  2007-01-26   11:52:03 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  

That's it? White American culture is celebrating Christmas? Holy shit, no wonder I couldn't figure it out.

Richard W.

No, that was just an example I was giving you of how traditional American values and customs are being blotted out.

On the post before that I answered your question. I can tell you some things about traditional south Louisiana culture from the old days, but somehow I don't think you're really interested in that.

I'm not passing any kind of judgement on other cultures, none, they are all interesting and tell the story of the various groups of mankind. However to destroy a culture, to blot out it's memory, is too much like an attempt to blot out a people.

Look at any modern public school history textbook, many famous white men of the past are portrayed as bad men, as racists, with their accomplishments nowhere to be seen. I saw 5th grade and 7th grade textbooks recently and they presented the idea of white man as racist and destroyer. There are too many signs pointing to intentions to bring down people with European DNA, that does not make me a bigot, though in your mind it may, but I don't believe in genocide in any form, that's my point.

Diana  posted on  2007-01-26   11:53:45 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  

And here you see what happens when potty training goes badly.

Well.........either that or the abortionist was an amateur and bungled badly.

rowdee  posted on  2007-01-26   11:56:07 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  

Diana, I think you missed the tongue in his cheek. This person would not admit he/she/it could be wrong if his/hers/its life depended upon such confession.

I'll have to look for that again, perhaps I read it too quickly.

Afterall I am 93 years old, for today at least.

Diana  posted on  2007-01-26   11:59:18 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  

i just perused the latest posts on LF. i don't see that they've got posted any better quality or quantity of articles than we have here.

Right.

Since you mentioned that, I can tell you that destro seldom engages any of the serious 911 researchers (or any other grownups) at LF and he certainly never claims to be superior to all. But, they are very aggressive there and they can reduce him to tears, and he doesn't like it when he is treated the way he treats people here.

I've known who he is from LF for quite some time and to me he was an inconsequential little twit. (even though his screen name was familiar to me for a long time I had not the faintest clue what if anything he stood for there. I see now that he was too intimidated to show his ass then.)

For some reason (probably because trolls aren't tolerated and folks are generally better behaved here) he interprets good manners as weakness and he believes he can bully us with his imaginary "big brain".

"I don't know how he does it...but I'll tell you the bottom line...

The man got a way with women...HE GOT AWAY WITH MINE!" ;)

HOUNDDAWG  posted on  2007-01-26   12:09:32 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  

And here you see what happens when potty training goes badly.

Well.........either that or the abortionist was an amateur and bungled badly.

I can see him sitting at a computer with a coat hanger through his head and typing, "Mom always liked you best...."

"I don't know how he does it...but I'll tell you the bottom line...

The man got a way with women...HE GOT AWAY WITH MINE!" ;)

HOUNDDAWG  posted on  2007-01-26   12:20:51 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  

A proud white woman is a thing of beauty!

Don't let the nig....I mean, African American lovers make you defensive.

We know very well that there's a war against majority whites in this country and we don't have to kiss the minorities' or the fawning whites' asses unless (as some sad cases obviously do) one happens to enjoy that sort of thing.

"I don't know how he does it...but I'll tell you the bottom line...

The man got a way with women...HE GOT AWAY WITH MINE!" ;)

HOUNDDAWG  posted on  2007-01-26   12:24:57 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  

I saw 5th grade and 7th grade textbooks recently and they presented the idea of white man as racist and destroyer.

Well, I suppose if you are a native American kid sitting in a reservation school, that wouldn't be much of a reach, now would it. However, that is besides the point. I still want to know precisely what white American culture is cause I sure as heck am not going to worry about the extinguishing of something that can't even be specifically defined beyond European DNA. So tell me again what white American culture is.

Richard W.

Arete  posted on  2007-01-26   12:28:42 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  

I'll have to look for that again, perhaps I read it too quickly.

Don't waste your efforts......seems like the shit stir stick has removed himself from the premises.....probably laughin his ass off.

rowdee  posted on  2007-01-26   12:45:16 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  

I still want to know precisely what white American culture is cause I sure as heck am not going to worry about the extinguishing of something that can't even be specifically defined beyond European DNA. So tell me again what white American culture is.

Richard W.

It can best be defined as the transplanting of the European work ethic which gave birth to the previously unthinkable idea of individual liberty, which is "the mainspring of human progress".

The enemies of white America seem to want to prosper by stealth, collectivist swindle or force. The notion that honest labor is its own reward is thought to be madness in the Marxist circles where your anti white views were heaved up.

Indeed the very concept of justice as it can only be rationally defined (by Thos. Jefferson, not Judge Bruce Takasugi) is the product of Anglo-European jurisprudence. No African, Asian or swarthy peoples ever conceived of such a thing nor could they, lacking the necessary genes or intelligence to survive without avarice and plunder.

"I don't know how he does it...but I'll tell you the bottom line...

The man got a way with women...HE GOT AWAY WITH MINE!" ;)

HOUNDDAWG  posted on  2007-01-26   13:02:22 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  

Well, I suppose if you are a native American kid sitting in a reservation school, that wouldn't be much of a reach, now would it. However, that is besides the point. I still want to know precisely what white American culture is cause I sure as heck am not going to worry about the extinguishing of something that can't even be specifically defined beyond European DNA. So tell me again what white American culture is.

I agree about the native American kid in school, but the books I read mostly related the bad white men to the black experience which is also valid.

In fact the native Americans are a wonderful example of various old cultures being wiped out with the arrival of the new immigrants from Europe, that is what happens. They also were forced to renounce their various cultures, their religions, kind of like how Christianity is being suppressed in this day and age. But never mind these paralells, you're only interested in me giving you some examples of white culture from a time when I wasn't quite born yet. Since that is the case I'll have to give you bits and pieces.

In the old days they had zoos where they took good care of the animals and parents who stayed married would bring their children there on weekends. Mothers would stay home with their children while the father went to work. Women made quilts and other handicrafts such as crocheting, they baked pies and they learned to play the piano. Girls were given dolls and taught to sew and sing, and boys played baseball. Children were taught not to touch things that did not belong to them, and were taught to call adults by Mr. and Mrs. and then the last name. They would go to church on Sundays and have Sunday school for the children. They had lawns and gardens and the fathers and boys mowed the lawns and the women liked to garden and plant flowers.

In Victorian times there was great emphasis placed on mourning as many children and small babies died. There was an odd but common practice of making doilies out of the hair of the deceased loved one. People went on picnics, people drew and painted pictures, and there were certain manners and mores that people observed in their conduct with one another. People had pets and loved their dogs and cats. They appreciated and created beauty.

In the old south women wore corsets around the Civil War era, and they had special fainting couches where they would lay down when they felt dizzy. They also applied makeup to their face which was wax-based, and if they got too close to the fireplace their makeup would melt. They used snuff. They were expected to dress modestly with their arms and legs covered with high necklines for everyday wear. They wore hats as did the men, and proper ladies wore clean white gloves when they went out. They played parlor games, read the bible together at nights, and tried their best to live their lives according to the laws of the bible. Some of the men invented things like electrical appliances and telephones. They wrote poems and novels, and developed medicines and surgical procedures. They went to dances, composed music some of which became famous, they made up recipes. And they weren't harrassed for celebrating Christmas, and they weren't obscenely ridiculed in the press. There was respect for their way of life and culture, and people were taught to love one another and live by the Golden Rule. Hell what do you want me to tell you?! You already know all this stuff and probably more, so what is your point exactly? That there never was an American culture, or never a white Christian culture, or that white people are inherently bad and deserve to be extinguished?

It's too easy and fashionable these days to bash whites, we see it all the time, but no group of people is perfect, this is not a perfect world and no one in this world is perfect. White people have commited acts of cruelty without a doubt, but that does not then mean all white people are evil and deserve to die off.

Okey, I have written this absurd post for you, if you want me to give you more details I will have to look for some sociology books. Then I can tell you all about powdered wigs of the 18th century and how they were made and how their styles morphed, things like that. Maybe I can tell you more too about the development of the automobile and it's early history.

Diana  posted on  2007-01-26   13:17:28 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  

It can best be defined as the transplanting of the European work ethic which gave birth to the previously unthinkable idea of individual liberty, which is "the mainspring of human progress".

Thankyou, you did better than I could, I was trying to be too literal.

But I think HONESTY and a sense of awe and appreciation and cooperation sums that up nicely.

Diana  posted on  2007-01-26   13:22:28 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  

Europeans (once upon a time) embraced Christianty, which brought forward the idea of human rights, and the importance of the individual; not commonly accepted ideas 2,000 years ago.

All the old Universities of Europe and the UK were originally started by the church. People like to make fun of the church and say it stifled learning (like the earth not being the center of the universe), but that's not the whole picture.

IMO, the Christian values that our forebearers brought to this country are the ones we want to cherish and keep. But like Solomon and his many foreign wives with their many foreign gods, our nation is being corrupted from within.

The more corrupt the state, the more numerous the laws. – Tacitus

robin  posted on  2007-01-26   13:29:54 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  

For anyone to ask that the our American Culture be defined in a few sentences, misses the point. The change to it has taken decades, so some here (given their age) might not have an historical perspective of what we lived thru. Here are a few things I'd like to see corrected/restored:

An American culture is one without forced multicultural education with the presumption that all cultures are equal. They aren’t and scientific studies that suggest this should be embraced, rather than dismissed.

An American culture is one where the Zionist Lobby doesn’t control our foreign policy by direct control over our elected representatives. We must recognize and oppose wars such as Iraq as being beneficial to Israel, and not America.

An American culture is one where “Hate Speech” is a notion for enslaved nations.

Am American culture is one where Al Sharpton and Jesse Jackson run from the law and not president.

Jethro Tull  posted on  2007-01-26   13:48:37 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  

So now you disappear after all that?

Diana  posted on  2007-01-26   13:55:06 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  

BTW, there have been long threads on 9/11 from which many, many excellent points were made that Destro never responded to,

That is a lie - I provided links - pictures to back my statements up.

At this point if this was a dive bar the beer bottle would be smashed.

"The desire to rule is the mother of heresies." -- St. John Chrysostom

Destro  posted on  2007-01-26   14:01:20 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  

The change to it has taken decades, so some here (given their age) might not have an historical perspective of what we lived thru.

An American culture is one where “Hate Speech” is a notion for enslaved nations.

Well if I were really 138 years old like Redheadedstrangerwomanhater claims, I could have been around during the Victorian period, but probably too young for the Civil War period.

Our neo-American culture is indeed quickly turning into a cold-blooded marxist culture.

Diana  posted on  2007-01-26   14:03:11 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  

That is the truth. Go re-read those threads yourself. You skipped over almost all the points made and refused to watch any of the 9/11 videos. You posted a very bad photo that supposedly made one of your points, which it failed to do anyway.

You had no response whatsoever to the very best arguments.

Now go sweep up the broken glass before you hurt yourself.

The more corrupt the state, the more numerous the laws. – Tacitus

robin  posted on  2007-01-26   14:05:37 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  

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