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Title: John Stadtmiller terrorizes RBN workers - (Menaces workers with firearm at staff meeting, and threatens to send police to workers' home)
Source: RBN
URL Source: http://rbnlive.com/
Published: Jan 28, 2007
Author: Wes Perkins
Post Date: 2007-01-28 10:43:54 by Bill D Berger
Keywords: None
Views: 3228
Comments: 180

I, Wes Perkins, am issuing this public affidavit as a warning to the public and as a protection to myself and my family from an individual who rules by intimidation, threats and fear.

"Don't listen to those crazy people, there's no danger to you here" retorts John and Sandra Stadtmiller as they try to explain away an incident in the summer of 2006 where John brings a gun into a staff meeting. Four eyewitnesses at the meeting verified that John brought a gun into a staff meeting after a short break, and set the gun down on the table, giving it a slight spin as he put it down. "I was startled to see the gun, and didn't know his intentions" states one of the eye witnesses. John and Sandra even blame the publicity of this event on, and continue to harass, a former employee who quit shortly after the incident, even though that employee wasn't even present in the room when this happened. That employee was recently told, "you better lay low". On a second occasion another eyewitness to a separate incident observed John showing off his handgun, and he accidentally dropped it. "That's how people get shot", said the witness.

Months earlier I was at a Denny's restaurant and two separate people who've had dealings with Stadtmiller mentioned about how Stadtmiller out of the blue had pointed firearms at them telling them that they had better do as he says. Those two people are Alex Jones and Keith Perry. Alex was telling his gun story while eating his eggs when Keith interjected that John had done the same thing to him.

Alex's story, which he recounted on Jack Blood's radio show on January 11, 2007; "I was at this guy's house (Stadtmiller's), and I'm sitting there doing a radio show with him, and all of a sudden I look up and he's pointing a Walter PPK handgun at me, and he has this maniacal look of pleasure, and I jumped up and said 'you'd better put that down - you've got a problem and I'm not going to be around you anymore'. And so I just went away."

Alex has also told me about John admitting to having a hand in getting Mark Koernke thrown into prison, as well as being involved in the breakup of the Michigan Militia. On two separate occasions while Alex was co-hosting the Saturday show with Stadtmiller, John told Alex not to defend Koernke - "because he's bad. He messed with me and you saw what happened to him. I'm glad he's in prison." Alex Jones had heard this from credible people in Michigan, but had never believed it until hearing it directly from Stadtmiller.

Alex told me about a situation at a gun show where John and Sandra tried to get Alex to do a straw man gun purchase for John, which Alex refused because it was against the law and the whole thing had a sting feel to it - there was a BATF guy drifting within a few feet from Alex when John asked Alex to purchase the gun for him. When Alex refused, John turned red with anger, and then suddenly became calm, whipped out his driver license, then bought the same handgun that John later pointed at Jones. Stadtmiller begged Alex to go to the gun show with him, and the whole thing had a feeling of a setup.

Just this past week Alex Jones told me how Stadtmiller called him on his cell phone after 1 am, sounding drunk or drugged, and Stadtmiller told him "when I pointed that gun at you, you were little and scared". Stadtmiller also said that he would like to beat Alex's wife.

Back to my situation.

I'm finally getting fed up with everything that I'm witnessing at RBN and want to put some distance between them and myself. Stadtmiller wants me to "turn over all of my technology and property" that manages the RBN archives. I'm telling them that they need to replace it with their own technology, so that they fully understand and can manage it properly. My technology is intellectual property and would take too much time to train others to manage.

Also, another thing I did was move out of a house that I was renting from someone who I learned through eyewitnesses was passing personal information about me to John.

Threatening to snitch out a patriot:

Now, I have a couple of outstanding warrants due to my protesting the National ID card a few years ago, and getting thrown into jail. I was charged with failure to show ID, then with a stacked charge on top of that of Interference with Public Duty. The underlying charge of failure to ID was dismissed, but the stacked charge was never dismissed even though it no longer had the underlying charge to support it. After many court appearances, and after realizing how the courts were nothing but a railroad job, I finally missed a court date and hence the warrants.

This week I have confirmation from a couple of RBN staffers who have overheard John and my former landlord discussing how they know where I moved to and will call the police on my warrants if I don't cooperate. Others warned me that John Stadtmiller was a snitch - now I have confirmation of the fact.

I'm not going to live in terror; it's time that someone stands up to the bully and his henchmen.

I'm through dealing with this evil man, John Stadtmiller. I'm also through dealing with his right-hand man, whom I also once believed to be an upstanding patriot. I'm ashamed to have ever gotten involved with these evil creatures, and am sorry for helping Stadtmiller succeed to the extent where he has caused this community so much pain and suffering.

Please distribute this story far and wide so that it may always be accessible to future would-be associates and/or supporters of John Stadtmiller, and may they right now be warned. Run...run away really fast!

A little more personal history:

I woke up to the new world order corruption in our society in 2000 listening to local patriot radio. In January 2004, talk show host John Stadtmiller was kicked off of the Genesis Communications Network.

Days later, I offered to help get Stadtmiller back on the air on shortwave and some local patriot radio outlets. Over the following months we produced Stadtmiller's daily two-hour radio show out of his home using a temporary makeshift studio, and during this time Stadtmiller setup his new radio network RBN (the Republic Broadcasting Network).

I brought a fair amount of my own computer equipment into the mix to assist in setting up RBN quickly - at no charge to RBN. To date I have not been compensated for the hardware that still resides at RBN. The equipment amounted to between $2,000 and $4,000 in value at the time of install. I had let Stadtmiller know from the start that I am a contractor and I own my own materials. All of my equipment at RBN has my labels on it, and now the locks have reportedly been changed to prevent me from having access to my equipment.

After the launch of RBN in June of 2004, I wrote the software to automate and manage RBN's archives and streaming, which has brought RBN to the forefront of the patriot movement as the only network with such a complete and high-quality streaming and archiving system. To date I have continued to provide this service to RBN. My system has allowed RBN to provide an incredible archive of information for a relatively low cost - only a small fraction of RBN's shortwave budget.

I have also been contracted to do board-op duties producing live radio shows on the network from the beginning. This gave me an up-close, insider look at the personalities behind the microphones at RBN. My alias for on-air purposes was "Producer Paul Martin". As producer I screened thousands of calls and produced thousands of hours of shows on RBN.

During my tenure at RBN I have witnessed dozens of temper tantrums by John Stadtmiller, including, but not limited to: shouting and hanging up on people from listeners to vendors to fellow broadcasters, kicking trash cans across the office, slamming doors, racing away on his Harley motorcycle and kicking his wife's dog in the throat. I have noticed that from day one producing his show he often spoke in a derogatory manner on his radio show about GCN (Genesis Communications Network), some of GCN's advertisers and sponsors and many of GCN's talk show hosts. I have personally witnessed this hundreds of times, and have always felt it was in poor taste, was divisive and had no place on the air. On a couple of occasions he even said on air that GCN was going under. I have also witnessed many occasions where the local patriot outlets would make programming decisions that were not always favorable to RBN, and Stadtmiller would erupt into a fit of rage against them, sometimes taking his complaints to the airwaves - insulting the management of those outlets on the air. I've always felt this was short-sided of Stadtmiller, as the local patriot outlets would air RBN's programming, including RBN's commercials, which directly benefited RBN, with no compensation whatsoever being made to the local outlets - they are not-for-profit and are only interested in waking up as many folks as possible to the truths of the dire condition of the nation.

I've come to realize that Stadtmiller is an expert wordsmith. He speaks on his radio show in such a way that folks who don't know him too well will think that he is the father of the patriot movement and that he controls and has founded all of the various radio outlets where his show is heard. He has often done entire shows where he would criticize listeners for not doing enough, usually at times where the finances were tight. I've also witnessed folks coming into the office to donate and would either thank Stadtmiller for airing Alex Jones or thank Stadtmiller for the local patriot outlets, neither of which are associated with Stadtmiller. He would nonetheless accept the money without any correction or clarification whatsoever that those outlets or talk show hosts are not affiliated with his network. I also personally know of folks who have loaned tens of thousands of dollars to RBN and have not been paid back. Stadtmiller for the first couple of years of RBN's existence often wordsmithed on the air about how he founded the GCN network. When finally confronted about this publicly by Alex Jones and by GCN owner Ted Anderson, John modified his language to say that he founded the network that later became GCN. This is still not quite correct, from the multiple sources that I have heard from who have first-hand knowledge of the facts.

There was a disturbing situation involving talk show host Chris Gerner regarding donations. Chris had found a large money donor who was willing to donate $15,000 to RBN solely because Chris was on the network covering Agenda-21 issues. The donor was willing to continue with donations given that Chris remain on the network doing what he always does. At the time the money came in, money was otherwise tight and RBN applied the money to various back bills, but still insisted that Chris personally pay for his own shortwave, disregarding that the donor specifically donated due to Chris. I witnessed similar trends on multiple occasions regarding the shortwave bills. It seemed Stadtmiller would entice new hosts to join without a written contract or specific details being ironed out regarding who would pay for shortwave time. Then if a host became boring to Stadtmiller, he would start billing the host for his shortwave time. If the host otherwise remained a "benefit" to the network, RBN would cover the cost without argument. Chris Gerner ultimately lost interest in doing the show and eventually quit over this issue.

The money-related issues mentioned above may not be so alarming in and of themselves, however, there is no accountability at RBN. RBN operates like a commercial entity in that it airs a full complement of commercials, but also operates as a non-profit and accepts donations. There is no board to oversee the operations, and in my opinion there is way too much overhead there. During startup he turned down a lot of money where folks wanted some sort of oversight over how their money would be managed, and only accepted money with relatively no strings attached. I've witnessed Stadtmiller spending money impulsively on a number of occasions.

In mid-2006 Stadtmiller brought in a fellow to assist in looking at the internal operations at RBN to attempt to flush out the problems and vision-build. During the numerous meetings I had suggested that we need a board of directors to buffer Stadtmiller's impulsive decision-making and provide some accounting oversight over the financial operations. Every time the subject came up Stadtmiller got very fidgety and irritable. The board never materialized and RBN continues to be managed in an impulsive manner.

Stadtmiller, on his Wednesday show, January 10, 2007, came out with a vicious attack piece of lies about Alex Jones. Although he never named Jones, he played Jones' bumper music underneath his rant and used a number of linking phrases that no patriot with any length in the movement would mistake as referring to any other than Alex Jones. John indicated that he had hired a private investigator for the previous 60 days to look into an egomaniacal talk show host, and he even knew who your favorite talk show hosts' drug dealer is. Alex has stated that this is a complete lie and challenges Stadtmiller to produce his proof. While John refers to drug use by Alex, it is actually John who is witnessed doing drugs by talk show host Jack Blood, as stated on Blood's January 11, 2007 show. Incidentally, John also refers to me several times in the hit piece, as the non-loyal staffer.

Mr. John Stadtmiller, I am loyal to the movement. Many in this movement know this, because they know my work and me. I assist many entities technically in their endeavors to wake people up and spread the truth of what's going on in our nation. I'm only loyal to you to the extent that you do good work - beyond that - I have no use for you. With this last hit piece you may have just put your foot in your mouth so deep that it will take the Jaws of Life to extract. You have had many good and talented employees, contractors and talk show hosts come and go through RBN - many of whom were chased away by your pompous, arrogant and demeaning personality. You have reversed the hard work of many good and well-meaning people over the past few years that I have witnessed.

As I've alluded to earlier, I've literally built Stadtmiller's network. I own the domain names http://rbnlive.com and http://rbnlive.net, and I want nothing further to do with a spider's web that is meant to catch well-meaning patriots like flies. As of Friday I requested to be paid by proxy through a trusted co-worker and they refused to hand him my payment. Effective today, Saturday, January 27, 2007, I am disconnecting all of my equipment and services that I own and provide to RBN. I am disconnecting all services that I provide through my equipment that is being held hostage, and I am removing myself from this monster's sphere of influence. I am simply severing all my connections to RBN - as a free man it is my right to not provide services to a user who has terrorized my family and others in the community.

John Stadtmiller I am finished dealing with you - so have a better life, but may God's judgment deal with you accordingly for your wrongdoings.

Lord, help us all, and heal our land and this movement.

Wes Perkins


Poster Comment:

I was unable to connect to the RBN Live feed since yesterday, so I went directly to the home page and this is what I found.

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#1. To: RickyJ, tauzero, innieway, noone222, lodwick, TEXANS, bluedogtxn, christine, ferret mike, burkeman1, jethro tull, horse (#0)

Effective today, Saturday, January 27, 2007, I am disconnecting all of my equipment and services that I own and provide to RBN. I am disconnecting all services that I provide through my equipment that is being held hostage, and I am removing myself from this monster's sphere of influence. I am simply severing all my connections to RBN - as a free man it is my right to not provide services to a user who has terrorized my family and others in the community.

Ping

During times of universal deceit, telling the truth becomes a revolutionary act.

Bill D Berger  posted on  2007-01-28   10:45:30 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#2. To: Bill D Berger (#0)

What a horrible situation for everyone involved.

Dr.Ron Paul for President

Lod  posted on  2007-01-28   10:54:01 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#3. To: Bill D Berger (#1)

Never trust a German. Sounds like the guy is a Fed.

"How legitimate is the Onion as a source?"----noone222

Redheadedstranger  posted on  2007-01-28   10:54:20 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#4. To: Bill D Berger (#0)

Let this be a lesson to us all: Never piss off the "techie" if you run an Internet-based operation.

The benefits of education and of useful knowledge, generally diffused through a community, are essential to the preservation of a free government. - Sam Houston

Sam Houston  posted on  2007-01-28   11:47:48 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#5. To: Sam Houston (#4)

Let this be a lesson to us all: Never piss off the "techie" if you run an Internet-based operation.

Too true. Sounds like Wes's work (not John's) made RBN and can unmake it with a flip of a switch.

I hope that RBN (or something like it) can be salvaged from this human wreckage. Perhaps Wes can take his software to GCN and RBN's hosts can move to that platform.

Check out my blog, America, the Bushieful.

Arator  posted on  2007-01-28   11:52:52 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#6. To: Redheadedstranger, Thread (#3) (Edited)

This is an untimely situation that will hopefully be resolved by everyone that sees the relevant importance of this free speech outlet.

I'm not John Stadtmiller's protector and I think he's pretty much self-destoyed his ability to run RBN. However, RBN is a very necessary tool to be used for the recovery of our freedom.

The pressure of financially maintaining the RBN Broadcast operation has probably had a significant amount of impact upon Mr. Stadtmiller's behavior. This is not an excuse but should be considered all the same. He has built an operable media entity, howbeit with much help of many others, especially Wes Perkins, John's wife Sandra and many local Austinites (some are our very own forum friends) that have funded and volunteered many of their personal services out of dedication to the cause, love for their neighbor and a belief in freedom.

The more immediate concern should actually be the continuance of the network. It's sad to say but I don't think there is any question that John Stadtmiller has burnt this bridge down. I think he must remove himself or be removed in order for the Network to continue. This option might be untenable for Stadtmiller personally, but it is necessary if RBN is to continue unless Stadtmiller has an ace in the hole for funding it.

John "needs" some time off. It's easy to be critical of someone from afar, and I don't think anyone sees John as innocent of his actions, but to err is human and to forgive is divine. In the interest of furthering truth our focus needs to be less on Stadtmiller and more on the future of the Network. while John needs to withdraw himself as gracefully as possible in spite of his natural instinct to kling to what he surely considers "his baby".

A meeting of interested parties within the Austin area that are familiar with the RFA broadcasts, RBN, GCN, and other active participants in the freedom movement, that has grown large in Austin, needs to convene for the purpose of seeing to it that this enterprise is kept viable in one form or another. [As stated by "V" you can't kill an idea].

I would like to thank Wes Perkins for his contributions to building this Network with John Stadtmiller in spite of the difficulties encountered along the way. I think the Network has much to be proud about and is undergoing some traumatic growing pains that can be overcome if everyone that has expended so much time, money and energy in it thusfar will remain calmly determined to resolve it rather than end it.

Much depends on John Stadtmiller's attitude with regard to relinquishing authority at this precarious time as opposed to being stripped of it at a later date when the Network has lost its viability or when a lawsuit causes financial impossibilites. This is something that John Stadtmiller must take into consideration and hopefully make a right minded decision.

I as well as others here have supported both GCN and RBN. We feel they are important and valuable commodities, and RBN is worth salvaging. Hopefully, people that are concerned for the future, the country and the people living in it will see it the same way and agree to assist in the effort necessary to continue the important work of awakening America.

Question: Is anyone picking up any broadcasts on shortwave ?

“The First Highest Masonic Council was, as we have already said, formed on 31st May 1801 in Charleston, 33 degrees northern latitude, under the chairmanship of the Jew Isaac Long, who was made inspector general by the Jew Moses Cohen, and who had received his degree from Hyes, from Franken, and the Jew Morin.”

noone222  posted on  2007-01-28   11:55:58 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#7. To: Sam Houston (#4)

Never piss off the "techie" if you run an Internet-based operation.

Excellent advice. You can see how Wes was able to shut down the entire RBN Network.

During times of universal deceit, telling the truth becomes a revolutionary act.

Bill D Berger  posted on  2007-01-28   11:58:10 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#8. To: Arator (#5)

Perhaps Wes can take his software to GCN and RBN's hosts can move to that platform.

RBN has some great shows that I would miss if RBN goes down the tubes.

During times of universal deceit, telling the truth becomes a revolutionary act.

Bill D Berger  posted on  2007-01-28   11:59:46 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#9. To: Bill D Berger (#8)

RBN has some great shows that I would miss if RBN goes down the tubes.

It would be a terrible loss, indeed.

Check out my blog, America, the Bushieful.

Arator  posted on  2007-01-28   12:04:20 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#10. To: noone222 (#6)

The more immediate concern should actually be the continuance of the network. It's sad to say but I don't think there is any question that John Stadtmiller has burnt this bridge down. I think he must remove himself or be removed in order for the Network to continue. This option might be untenable for Stadtmiller personally, but it is necessary if RBN is to continue unless Stadtmiller has an ace in the hole for funding it.

What a fracking mess! From what I'm reading here, that bridge is not only burnt, but the banks of the river have been salted with depleted uranium. I have to imagine that most of RBN's growth has come over the internet, and that was used to attract a lot of the new sponsors. Losing the streaming and archive delivery software would be hard enough to replace, but losing the domain names...just damn. Yeah, like the others said, don't piss off your IT guy. Especially when he owns your domains.

"First I'm gonna bother everybody I meet, and then I'll probably go home and get drunk."

orangedog  posted on  2007-01-28   12:59:13 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#11. To: noone222. all (#6)

Don't piss-off your techie bump

Earlier in the day I was getting some programming over the internet, but that has stopped here, and there is still programming over RFA.

Dr.Ron Paul for President

Lod  posted on  2007-01-28   13:07:18 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#12. To: Bill D Berger (#7)

How is it that this WES guy has warrants out for him and is so well known and has pissed off Stadtmiller (whoever he is)yet no one has bothered to arrest him. I say BS to his whole paranoid non sensical post. Maybe Alec Jones should look into this miscarriage of martydom.

willyone  posted on  2007-01-28   13:12:12 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#13. To: orangedog (#10) (Edited)

Truthfully, that network belongs a little to everyone that assisted in its development. Legally it's a different matter.

The expedient thing to do would be to help John leave gracefully, properly compensate Wes Perkins for his prior efforts and ask him to reboot the system with someone else managing it. And move on.

The problems that exist, both with Wes Perkins and Alex Jones, are of John Stadtmiller's own making, and I think he probably realizes it since everyone else seems to. Now John needs to make the appropriate decision regardless of how hard that might be, unless he has a financial backer willing to finance everything Wes Perkins was previously bringing to the network, as well as the attorney fees that might be forthcoming should Alex Jones bring an action against John and the network.

From a practical standpoint the easiest means of solving the existing problem is for John to bow out and for Alex to drop any potential legal action.

Question: What, if anything, actually makes John Stadtmiller the "owner" of RBN.

“The First Highest Masonic Council was, as we have already said, formed on 31st May 1801 in Charleston, 33 degrees northern latitude, under the chairmanship of the Jew Isaac Long, who was made inspector general by the Jew Moses Cohen, and who had received his degree from Hyes, from Franken, and the Jew Morin.”

noone222  posted on  2007-01-28   13:26:33 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#14. To: orangedog, noone222, Bill D Berger, ALL (#10)

i'm finding out there is much, much more to this. we must remember there are two sides to every story. there is both truth and fiction in the Wes affidavit.

christine  posted on  2007-01-28   13:38:27 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#15. To: christine (#14)

i'm finding out there is much, much more to this. we must remember there are two sides to every story. there is both truth and fiction in the Wes affidavit.

I hear you. This seems to have taken on a "Desperate Houswives" quality, to some extent. Maybe a better comparison would be the scene of the monkies at the watering hole in the movie "2001."

"First I'm gonna bother everybody I meet, and then I'll probably go home and get drunk."

orangedog  posted on  2007-01-28   13:52:02 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#16. To: Bill D Berger, all (#0) (Edited)

Mr. John Stadtmiller, I am loyal to the movement. - Wes Perkins

Horse shit Perkins. JS is no saint, and he apparently has a temper (who doesn't), but this "affidavit" smacks of bullshit. If any of the people mentioned felt threatened by JS, they're grown people and should have reported it to the authorities themselves. Since they apparently didn’t, it certainly isn‘t your job to do it for them. With the apparent silencing of RBN the patriot community is left with whatever Ted Anderson (GCN’s owner) wants to put on the air. I know this about Anderson; anyone who would consider Michael Trudeau a close friend and confident, as Anderson does, holds a far different political agenda than I do. Trudeau was an early staunch supporter of the Iraqi war and George Bush. I can only assume he still is. Perception is reality for me and since all this came down after the open air fight between Jones and Stadtmiller, I can only assume AJ is involved in the silencing of RBN which makes for a GCN without competition, something that is never good.

Jethro Tull  posted on  2007-01-28   14:43:14 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#17. To: Jethro Tull (#16)

I just hate this infighting BS. "Who benefits?" must be asked.

The moral and constitutional obligations of our representatives in Washington are to protect our liberty, not coddle the world, precipitating no-win wars, while bringing bankruptcy and economic turmoil to our people. ~Ron Paul

robin  posted on  2007-01-28   14:59:30 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#18. To: Jethro Tull (#16)

Excellent points.. btw who is Michael Trudeau ?

Zipporah  posted on  2007-01-28   15:01:28 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#19. To: Jethro Tull (#16)

which makes for a GCN without competition

And without a full compliment of programming which RBN did deliver. GCN has to be considered the primary beneficiary of this fall-out.

“The First Highest Masonic Council was, as we have already said, formed on 31st May 1801 in Charleston, 33 degrees northern latitude, under the chairmanship of the Jew Isaac Long, who was made inspector general by the Jew Moses Cohen, and who had received his degree from Hyes, from Franken, and the Jew Morin.”

noone222  posted on  2007-01-28   15:10:51 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#20. To: robin (#17)

Who benefits?

The OTHERS, as per usual.

Jethro Tull  posted on  2007-01-28   15:14:47 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#21. To: Redheadedstranger (#3)

Sounds like the guy is a Fed.

There's a fed under almost every bed these days. They look like us, walk like us, talk like us... the Hells Angels found that out:

That guy is a fed. Can't be too careful these days.


Support Ed Brown!

Critter  posted on  2007-01-28   15:29:47 ET  (1 image) Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#22. To: noone222, Zipporah, robin, christine, a'' (#19)

Here's a blurb on Trudeau. As I said, I know him thru Ed Balajeski, a close personal friend who did a radio show with him for more than a year. He's a pro-war, Republican neocon. NTBT (not to be tristed) in my book.

Does any of the below sound familiar, as in the current RBN argument?

http://www.christianmediaresearch.com/brumrev-01.html

The short version is the Genesis Network was formed by Ted Anderson, Michael Trudeau, Paul and Debi Wright, and Chris Hanson. Anderson and Trudeau of Midas Resources, a gold and silver brokerage, provided the start-up capital. They stole the Republic network assets, studio equipment, and staff without paying the rightful owner — a woman named Loris Thompkins. The Genesis people repeatedly lied and sought to cover up their blatant theft. So naturally, as a good Christian man, Bill Brumbaugh decided to place his show with the thieves instead of the unjustly wronged Loris Thompkins of the Heritage Network.

The Midas people quickly formed Genesis utilizing studio equipment they had stolen from Republic literally on a weekend when Loris was out of town. Ms Thompkins, who was the rightful owner of Republic, formed the Heritage Network and promptly sued the slithery Genesis founders. Thus, all the former hosts at Republic had to make a decision as to which network they would continue to broadcast with. Because Ted Anderson of Midas Resources seemed to have all the money and Loris Thompkins was almost insolvent due to the treachery of the Genesis crowd, Bill Brumbaugh went with Genesis instead of Heritage. Bill Brumbaugh's siding with the evil perpetrators of this crime was an act of gross indifference to the scriptural admonition to take a stand for the right and "do justice for the afflicted." (2) But Bill was just getting started in his treacherous radio "career" and hadn't yet learned the full depth of the sleazy tactics he now employs.

Jethro Tull  posted on  2007-01-28   15:32:34 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#23. To: Critter (#21)

Is that you Critter?

Jethro Tull  posted on  2007-01-28   15:33:37 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#24. To: Jethro Tull (#23)

LOL! Nope, not me. But it is a warnng to everyone. Sometimes it's real hard to tell who the fed is.


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Critter  posted on  2007-01-28   15:40:48 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#25. To: Critter (#24)

edited

"You can not save the Constitution by destroying it."

Itisa1mosttoolate  posted on  2007-01-28   16:01:56 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#26. To: Itisa1mosttoolate (#25)

LoL! Dude, you blew up the thread!

"First I'm gonna bother everybody I meet, and then I'll probably go home and get drunk."

orangedog  posted on  2007-01-28   16:19:08 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#27. To: Itisa1mosttoolate (#25)

Quick! There's still time to edit that mess out! lol

I tried using links to feeds from the cached version on google and they're all dead, so a cached version is of no use at this point.


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Critter  posted on  2007-01-28   16:21:16 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#28. To: christine, all (#14) (Edited)

Alex has also told me about John admitting to having a hand in getting Mark Koernke thrown into prison, as well as being involved in the breakup of the Michigan Militia. On two separate occasions while Alex was co- hosting the Saturday show with Stadtmiller, John told Alex not to defend Koernke - "because he's bad. He messed with me and you saw what happened to him. I'm glad he's in prison."

i'm finding out there is much, much more to this. we must remember there are two sides to every story. there is both truth and fiction in the Wes affidavit.

Good, because I always thought he was a good guy since his early days on shortwave. I would be extremely disappointed if he were not true to the movement and was an infiltrator or a disruptor.

The details of this case not withstanding, there is one axiom that usually can be depended upon: The trustworthy patriots are the ones in jail or the ones murdered; i.e. you can't trust anyone in today's PoliceState.
Only a free man could ever be considered an agent provocateur for TheStateInc [One of which, IMO that is, is Bo Gritz.]

Koernke is in prison, Chuck Harder was destroyed financially and William Cooper was killed, along with the family of Mr Weaver. None of these people can ever be called agent provocateurs or double agents. Their persecution exemplifies their honesty.

Unfortunately, another axiom is that even honest people fight for power, which when involving folks in the cause, is extremely disappointing because it hurts all of us. I don't know or profess to judge anything here at all, but it sounds like someone, or some people, are not playing with a full deck. :((

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In a time of universal deceit, telling the truth is a revolutionary act - - George Orwell

IndieTX  posted on  2007-01-28   17:28:09 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#29. To: Jethro Tull, orangedog, IndieTx, Bill D Berger, robin, Neil McIver, HOUNDDAWG, Critter. lodwick, Zipporah, itisa1mosttoolate, noone222, ALL (#27) (Edited)

John and Sandra just left our house. RBN's internet has been restored and the website will be back up within 48 hours (hopefully) thanks to a local software programmer who has generously offered to write the new script. John will be addressing this issue in the 2nd hour of his show tomorrow. Stay tuned..

christine  posted on  2007-01-28   17:38:13 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#30. To: christine (#29)

John and Sandra just left our house.

Oh so you're in on this conspiracy too eh? I always knew there was something peculiar about you... ;)


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Critter  posted on  2007-01-28   17:39:38 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#31. To: Jethro Tull (#22)

Quite interesting.. thanks

One thought on this.. it seems what better place for charlatans and thieves to do their 'work' than within the 'patriot community.. consider most of those within that community think that the use of lawyers is unconscionable.. they would never dream of filing a lawsuit.. etc... so what better place for them to run rampant?

Zipporah  posted on  2007-01-28   17:45:53 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#32. To: christine (#29)

John will be addressing this issue in the 2nd hour of his show tomorrow. Stay tuned

Great News ! I sure hope this all works out for everyone concerned.

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noone222  posted on  2007-01-28   17:51:32 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#33. To: christine (#29)

John and Sandra just left our house. RBN's internet has been restored and the website will be back up within 48 hours (hopefully) thanks to a local software programmer who has generously offered to write the new script. John will be addressing this issue in the 2nd hour of his show tomorrow. Stay tuned..

excellent

The moral and constitutional obligations of our representatives in Washington are to protect our liberty, not coddle the world, precipitating no-win wars, while bringing bankruptcy and economic turmoil to our people. ~Ron Paul

robin  posted on  2007-01-28   17:57:30 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#34. To: christine (#29)

Be careful.

Mark

"I was real close to Building 7 when it fell down... That didn't sound like just a building falling down to me while I was running away from it. There's a lot of eyewitness testimony down there of hearing explosions. [..] and the whole time you're hearing "boom, boom, boom, boom, boom." I think I know an explosion when I hear it... — Former NYC Police Officer and 9/11 Rescue Worker Craig Bartmer

Kamala  posted on  2007-01-28   17:58:46 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#35. To: christine (#29)

he didn't pull any guns on you did he? good grief. Did Alex really say what is reported above, on the Jack Blood Show, about this guy maniacally puling a gun on him?

If Alex really did say what is reported in the transript above than one would have to decide if he believes Jones or Stadtmiller.

Since you are friends with Stadtmiller and a fan of Jones who would you believe? All this depending on the accurcy of the transcript above of course.

Artisan  posted on  2007-01-28   18:20:34 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#36. To: Artisan (#35)

he didn't pull any guns on you did he? good grief.

my husband and i have been with john and his wife countless times in social situations including at their home and have never seen john with a gun. i asked him about what alex reported and john claims he NEVER pointed the gun at alex but was simply showing it to him. it apparently was a recent purchase.

christine  posted on  2007-01-28   18:27:03 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#37. To: christine (#29)

on SW only? he needs a new domain name, (rbndead?)

"You can not save the Constitution by destroying it."

Itisa1mosttoolate  posted on  2007-01-28   18:39:36 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#38. To: christine (#36)

OK, The main thing I wasn't sure of is whether the transcript above is really what Alex actually said or if the guy writing it was embellishing it.

In other words I am not looking for a defense from Stadtmillers point of view but simply want to know. do you know if Alex Jones actually made these accusations against Stadtmiller?

Or is it third party lies? Since I don't listen to the jack blood show i have not heard the above.

Also this is interesting; the guy said:

I own the domain names http://rbnlive.com and http://rbnlive.net, and I want nothing further to do with a spider's web that is meant to catch well-meaning patriots like flies

I highly doubt anything will be up and running at the old site address since the owner controls it.

Sure, they can start a new site but control of what's on the domain RBNLIVE.COM will only have what it's owner wants on it. Anything else will be hacked out in court and will take months at least.

Artisan  posted on  2007-01-28   18:45:37 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#39. To: Artisan (#38)

do you know if Alex Jones actually made these accusations against Stadtmiller?

yes, alex did say that on the jack blood show.

i can't answer your question about the accuracy of the above statement regarding the domain ownership.

christine  posted on  2007-01-28   18:59:41 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#40. To: Critter (#21)

That bit about the gunshow and Stadtmiller trying to convince Alex Jones to buy him a pistol should have been a huge red flag to everyone.

"How legitimate is the Onion as a source?"----noone222

Redheadedstranger  posted on  2007-01-28   19:17:20 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#41. To: christine (#39)

Oh OK in that case that makes this more interesting. I wonder why a guy like Alex would purportedly, according to his own story, let someone point a gun at him and threaten him?? Doesn't sound like the Alex I 'know' (or at lest the personal he portrays) & certainly doesn't sound like someone with any sense or guts!

As far as the domain name I found something interesting regarding this wes perkins character.

http://www.wipo.int/amc/en/domains/decisions/html/2001/d2001-0533.html

An arbitration ruling in which, Perkins created and bought the domain name, initials which matched the name of an already existing company, which had a copyright on the name. Perkins made an offer to the company to buy it on ebay. their offer was not high enough, then someone bought the name from Perkins and tried to sell it to the company again. The ruling basically said it was in bad faith, implied that perkins may have been involved with the respondant (the current owner), and the legally binding ruling was the the domain name be transfered to the company because the current owner had no right to it.

That's not the same situation as the current one but is interesting nonetheless.

ALso, I wonder why people are prevented from buying domain names and selling them strictly for profit? I had read that people made quite a bundle doing that very thing. If I remember correctly, some court later ruled that people couldn't do that?

Artisan  posted on  2007-01-28   19:20:59 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  



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