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Title: John Stadtmiller terrorizes RBN workers - (Menaces workers with firearm at staff meeting, and threatens to send police to workers' home)
Source: RBN
URL Source: http://rbnlive.com/
Published: Jan 28, 2007
Author: Wes Perkins
Post Date: 2007-01-28 10:43:54 by Bill D Berger
Keywords: None
Views: 1847
Comments: 180

I, Wes Perkins, am issuing this public affidavit as a warning to the public and as a protection to myself and my family from an individual who rules by intimidation, threats and fear.

"Don't listen to those crazy people, there's no danger to you here" retorts John and Sandra Stadtmiller as they try to explain away an incident in the summer of 2006 where John brings a gun into a staff meeting. Four eyewitnesses at the meeting verified that John brought a gun into a staff meeting after a short break, and set the gun down on the table, giving it a slight spin as he put it down. "I was startled to see the gun, and didn't know his intentions" states one of the eye witnesses. John and Sandra even blame the publicity of this event on, and continue to harass, a former employee who quit shortly after the incident, even though that employee wasn't even present in the room when this happened. That employee was recently told, "you better lay low". On a second occasion another eyewitness to a separate incident observed John showing off his handgun, and he accidentally dropped it. "That's how people get shot", said the witness.

Months earlier I was at a Denny's restaurant and two separate people who've had dealings with Stadtmiller mentioned about how Stadtmiller out of the blue had pointed firearms at them telling them that they had better do as he says. Those two people are Alex Jones and Keith Perry. Alex was telling his gun story while eating his eggs when Keith interjected that John had done the same thing to him.

Alex's story, which he recounted on Jack Blood's radio show on January 11, 2007; "I was at this guy's house (Stadtmiller's), and I'm sitting there doing a radio show with him, and all of a sudden I look up and he's pointing a Walter PPK handgun at me, and he has this maniacal look of pleasure, and I jumped up and said 'you'd better put that down - you've got a problem and I'm not going to be around you anymore'. And so I just went away."

Alex has also told me about John admitting to having a hand in getting Mark Koernke thrown into prison, as well as being involved in the breakup of the Michigan Militia. On two separate occasions while Alex was co-hosting the Saturday show with Stadtmiller, John told Alex not to defend Koernke - "because he's bad. He messed with me and you saw what happened to him. I'm glad he's in prison." Alex Jones had heard this from credible people in Michigan, but had never believed it until hearing it directly from Stadtmiller.

Alex told me about a situation at a gun show where John and Sandra tried to get Alex to do a straw man gun purchase for John, which Alex refused because it was against the law and the whole thing had a sting feel to it - there was a BATF guy drifting within a few feet from Alex when John asked Alex to purchase the gun for him. When Alex refused, John turned red with anger, and then suddenly became calm, whipped out his driver license, then bought the same handgun that John later pointed at Jones. Stadtmiller begged Alex to go to the gun show with him, and the whole thing had a feeling of a setup.

Just this past week Alex Jones told me how Stadtmiller called him on his cell phone after 1 am, sounding drunk or drugged, and Stadtmiller told him "when I pointed that gun at you, you were little and scared". Stadtmiller also said that he would like to beat Alex's wife.

Back to my situation.

I'm finally getting fed up with everything that I'm witnessing at RBN and want to put some distance between them and myself. Stadtmiller wants me to "turn over all of my technology and property" that manages the RBN archives. I'm telling them that they need to replace it with their own technology, so that they fully understand and can manage it properly. My technology is intellectual property and would take too much time to train others to manage.

Also, another thing I did was move out of a house that I was renting from someone who I learned through eyewitnesses was passing personal information about me to John.

Threatening to snitch out a patriot:

Now, I have a couple of outstanding warrants due to my protesting the National ID card a few years ago, and getting thrown into jail. I was charged with failure to show ID, then with a stacked charge on top of that of Interference with Public Duty. The underlying charge of failure to ID was dismissed, but the stacked charge was never dismissed even though it no longer had the underlying charge to support it. After many court appearances, and after realizing how the courts were nothing but a railroad job, I finally missed a court date and hence the warrants.

This week I have confirmation from a couple of RBN staffers who have overheard John and my former landlord discussing how they know where I moved to and will call the police on my warrants if I don't cooperate. Others warned me that John Stadtmiller was a snitch - now I have confirmation of the fact.

I'm not going to live in terror; it's time that someone stands up to the bully and his henchmen.

I'm through dealing with this evil man, John Stadtmiller. I'm also through dealing with his right-hand man, whom I also once believed to be an upstanding patriot. I'm ashamed to have ever gotten involved with these evil creatures, and am sorry for helping Stadtmiller succeed to the extent where he has caused this community so much pain and suffering.

Please distribute this story far and wide so that it may always be accessible to future would-be associates and/or supporters of John Stadtmiller, and may they right now be warned. Run...run away really fast!

A little more personal history:

I woke up to the new world order corruption in our society in 2000 listening to local patriot radio. In January 2004, talk show host John Stadtmiller was kicked off of the Genesis Communications Network.

Days later, I offered to help get Stadtmiller back on the air on shortwave and some local patriot radio outlets. Over the following months we produced Stadtmiller's daily two-hour radio show out of his home using a temporary makeshift studio, and during this time Stadtmiller setup his new radio network RBN (the Republic Broadcasting Network).

I brought a fair amount of my own computer equipment into the mix to assist in setting up RBN quickly - at no charge to RBN. To date I have not been compensated for the hardware that still resides at RBN. The equipment amounted to between $2,000 and $4,000 in value at the time of install. I had let Stadtmiller know from the start that I am a contractor and I own my own materials. All of my equipment at RBN has my labels on it, and now the locks have reportedly been changed to prevent me from having access to my equipment.

After the launch of RBN in June of 2004, I wrote the software to automate and manage RBN's archives and streaming, which has brought RBN to the forefront of the patriot movement as the only network with such a complete and high-quality streaming and archiving system. To date I have continued to provide this service to RBN. My system has allowed RBN to provide an incredible archive of information for a relatively low cost - only a small fraction of RBN's shortwave budget.

I have also been contracted to do board-op duties producing live radio shows on the network from the beginning. This gave me an up-close, insider look at the personalities behind the microphones at RBN. My alias for on-air purposes was "Producer Paul Martin". As producer I screened thousands of calls and produced thousands of hours of shows on RBN.

During my tenure at RBN I have witnessed dozens of temper tantrums by John Stadtmiller, including, but not limited to: shouting and hanging up on people from listeners to vendors to fellow broadcasters, kicking trash cans across the office, slamming doors, racing away on his Harley motorcycle and kicking his wife's dog in the throat. I have noticed that from day one producing his show he often spoke in a derogatory manner on his radio show about GCN (Genesis Communications Network), some of GCN's advertisers and sponsors and many of GCN's talk show hosts. I have personally witnessed this hundreds of times, and have always felt it was in poor taste, was divisive and had no place on the air. On a couple of occasions he even said on air that GCN was going under. I have also witnessed many occasions where the local patriot outlets would make programming decisions that were not always favorable to RBN, and Stadtmiller would erupt into a fit of rage against them, sometimes taking his complaints to the airwaves - insulting the management of those outlets on the air. I've always felt this was short-sided of Stadtmiller, as the local patriot outlets would air RBN's programming, including RBN's commercials, which directly benefited RBN, with no compensation whatsoever being made to the local outlets - they are not-for-profit and are only interested in waking up as many folks as possible to the truths of the dire condition of the nation.

I've come to realize that Stadtmiller is an expert wordsmith. He speaks on his radio show in such a way that folks who don't know him too well will think that he is the father of the patriot movement and that he controls and has founded all of the various radio outlets where his show is heard. He has often done entire shows where he would criticize listeners for not doing enough, usually at times where the finances were tight. I've also witnessed folks coming into the office to donate and would either thank Stadtmiller for airing Alex Jones or thank Stadtmiller for the local patriot outlets, neither of which are associated with Stadtmiller. He would nonetheless accept the money without any correction or clarification whatsoever that those outlets or talk show hosts are not affiliated with his network. I also personally know of folks who have loaned tens of thousands of dollars to RBN and have not been paid back. Stadtmiller for the first couple of years of RBN's existence often wordsmithed on the air about how he founded the GCN network. When finally confronted about this publicly by Alex Jones and by GCN owner Ted Anderson, John modified his language to say that he founded the network that later became GCN. This is still not quite correct, from the multiple sources that I have heard from who have first-hand knowledge of the facts.

There was a disturbing situation involving talk show host Chris Gerner regarding donations. Chris had found a large money donor who was willing to donate $15,000 to RBN solely because Chris was on the network covering Agenda-21 issues. The donor was willing to continue with donations given that Chris remain on the network doing what he always does. At the time the money came in, money was otherwise tight and RBN applied the money to various back bills, but still insisted that Chris personally pay for his own shortwave, disregarding that the donor specifically donated due to Chris. I witnessed similar trends on multiple occasions regarding the shortwave bills. It seemed Stadtmiller would entice new hosts to join without a written contract or specific details being ironed out regarding who would pay for shortwave time. Then if a host became boring to Stadtmiller, he would start billing the host for his shortwave time. If the host otherwise remained a "benefit" to the network, RBN would cover the cost without argument. Chris Gerner ultimately lost interest in doing the show and eventually quit over this issue.

The money-related issues mentioned above may not be so alarming in and of themselves, however, there is no accountability at RBN. RBN operates like a commercial entity in that it airs a full complement of commercials, but also operates as a non-profit and accepts donations. There is no board to oversee the operations, and in my opinion there is way too much overhead there. During startup he turned down a lot of money where folks wanted some sort of oversight over how their money would be managed, and only accepted money with relatively no strings attached. I've witnessed Stadtmiller spending money impulsively on a number of occasions.

In mid-2006 Stadtmiller brought in a fellow to assist in looking at the internal operations at RBN to attempt to flush out the problems and vision-build. During the numerous meetings I had suggested that we need a board of directors to buffer Stadtmiller's impulsive decision-making and provide some accounting oversight over the financial operations. Every time the subject came up Stadtmiller got very fidgety and irritable. The board never materialized and RBN continues to be managed in an impulsive manner.

Stadtmiller, on his Wednesday show, January 10, 2007, came out with a vicious attack piece of lies about Alex Jones. Although he never named Jones, he played Jones' bumper music underneath his rant and used a number of linking phrases that no patriot with any length in the movement would mistake as referring to any other than Alex Jones. John indicated that he had hired a private investigator for the previous 60 days to look into an egomaniacal talk show host, and he even knew who your favorite talk show hosts' drug dealer is. Alex has stated that this is a complete lie and challenges Stadtmiller to produce his proof. While John refers to drug use by Alex, it is actually John who is witnessed doing drugs by talk show host Jack Blood, as stated on Blood's January 11, 2007 show. Incidentally, John also refers to me several times in the hit piece, as the non-loyal staffer.

Mr. John Stadtmiller, I am loyal to the movement. Many in this movement know this, because they know my work and me. I assist many entities technically in their endeavors to wake people up and spread the truth of what's going on in our nation. I'm only loyal to you to the extent that you do good work - beyond that - I have no use for you. With this last hit piece you may have just put your foot in your mouth so deep that it will take the Jaws of Life to extract. You have had many good and talented employees, contractors and talk show hosts come and go through RBN - many of whom were chased away by your pompous, arrogant and demeaning personality. You have reversed the hard work of many good and well-meaning people over the past few years that I have witnessed.

As I've alluded to earlier, I've literally built Stadtmiller's network. I own the domain names http://rbnlive.com and http://rbnlive.net, and I want nothing further to do with a spider's web that is meant to catch well-meaning patriots like flies. As of Friday I requested to be paid by proxy through a trusted co-worker and they refused to hand him my payment. Effective today, Saturday, January 27, 2007, I am disconnecting all of my equipment and services that I own and provide to RBN. I am disconnecting all services that I provide through my equipment that is being held hostage, and I am removing myself from this monster's sphere of influence. I am simply severing all my connections to RBN - as a free man it is my right to not provide services to a user who has terrorized my family and others in the community.

John Stadtmiller I am finished dealing with you - so have a better life, but may God's judgment deal with you accordingly for your wrongdoings.

Lord, help us all, and heal our land and this movement.

Wes Perkins


Poster Comment:

I was unable to connect to the RBN Live feed since yesterday, so I went directly to the home page and this is what I found.

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#1. To: RickyJ, tauzero, innieway, noone222, lodwick, TEXANS, bluedogtxn, christine, ferret mike, burkeman1, jethro tull, horse (#0)

Effective today, Saturday, January 27, 2007, I am disconnecting all of my equipment and services that I own and provide to RBN. I am disconnecting all services that I provide through my equipment that is being held hostage, and I am removing myself from this monster's sphere of influence. I am simply severing all my connections to RBN - as a free man it is my right to not provide services to a user who has terrorized my family and others in the community.

Ping

During times of universal deceit, telling the truth becomes a revolutionary act.

Bill D Berger  posted on  2007-01-28   10:45:30 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#2. To: Bill D Berger (#0)

What a horrible situation for everyone involved.

Dr.Ron Paul for President

Lod  posted on  2007-01-28   10:54:01 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#3. To: Bill D Berger (#1)

Never trust a German. Sounds like the guy is a Fed.

"How legitimate is the Onion as a source?"----noone222

Redheadedstranger  posted on  2007-01-28   10:54:20 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#4. To: Bill D Berger (#0)

Let this be a lesson to us all: Never piss off the "techie" if you run an Internet-based operation.

The benefits of education and of useful knowledge, generally diffused through a community, are essential to the preservation of a free government. - Sam Houston

Sam Houston  posted on  2007-01-28   11:47:48 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#5. To: Sam Houston (#4)

Let this be a lesson to us all: Never piss off the "techie" if you run an Internet-based operation.

Too true. Sounds like Wes's work (not John's) made RBN and can unmake it with a flip of a switch.

I hope that RBN (or something like it) can be salvaged from this human wreckage. Perhaps Wes can take his software to GCN and RBN's hosts can move to that platform.

Check out my blog, America, the Bushieful.

Arator  posted on  2007-01-28   11:52:52 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#6. To: Redheadedstranger, Thread (#3) (Edited)

This is an untimely situation that will hopefully be resolved by everyone that sees the relevant importance of this free speech outlet.

I'm not John Stadtmiller's protector and I think he's pretty much self-destoyed his ability to run RBN. However, RBN is a very necessary tool to be used for the recovery of our freedom.

The pressure of financially maintaining the RBN Broadcast operation has probably had a significant amount of impact upon Mr. Stadtmiller's behavior. This is not an excuse but should be considered all the same. He has built an operable media entity, howbeit with much help of many others, especially Wes Perkins, John's wife Sandra and many local Austinites (some are our very own forum friends) that have funded and volunteered many of their personal services out of dedication to the cause, love for their neighbor and a belief in freedom.

The more immediate concern should actually be the continuance of the network. It's sad to say but I don't think there is any question that John Stadtmiller has burnt this bridge down. I think he must remove himself or be removed in order for the Network to continue. This option might be untenable for Stadtmiller personally, but it is necessary if RBN is to continue unless Stadtmiller has an ace in the hole for funding it.

John "needs" some time off. It's easy to be critical of someone from afar, and I don't think anyone sees John as innocent of his actions, but to err is human and to forgive is divine. In the interest of furthering truth our focus needs to be less on Stadtmiller and more on the future of the Network. while John needs to withdraw himself as gracefully as possible in spite of his natural instinct to kling to what he surely considers "his baby".

A meeting of interested parties within the Austin area that are familiar with the RFA broadcasts, RBN, GCN, and other active participants in the freedom movement, that has grown large in Austin, needs to convene for the purpose of seeing to it that this enterprise is kept viable in one form or another. [As stated by "V" you can't kill an idea].

I would like to thank Wes Perkins for his contributions to building this Network with John Stadtmiller in spite of the difficulties encountered along the way. I think the Network has much to be proud about and is undergoing some traumatic growing pains that can be overcome if everyone that has expended so much time, money and energy in it thusfar will remain calmly determined to resolve it rather than end it.

Much depends on John Stadtmiller's attitude with regard to relinquishing authority at this precarious time as opposed to being stripped of it at a later date when the Network has lost its viability or when a lawsuit causes financial impossibilites. This is something that John Stadtmiller must take into consideration and hopefully make a right minded decision.

I as well as others here have supported both GCN and RBN. We feel they are important and valuable commodities, and RBN is worth salvaging. Hopefully, people that are concerned for the future, the country and the people living in it will see it the same way and agree to assist in the effort necessary to continue the important work of awakening America.

Question: Is anyone picking up any broadcasts on shortwave ?

“The First Highest Masonic Council was, as we have already said, formed on 31st May 1801 in Charleston, 33 degrees northern latitude, under the chairmanship of the Jew Isaac Long, who was made inspector general by the Jew Moses Cohen, and who had received his degree from Hyes, from Franken, and the Jew Morin.”

noone222  posted on  2007-01-28   11:55:58 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#7. To: Sam Houston (#4)

Never piss off the "techie" if you run an Internet-based operation.

Excellent advice. You can see how Wes was able to shut down the entire RBN Network.

During times of universal deceit, telling the truth becomes a revolutionary act.

Bill D Berger  posted on  2007-01-28   11:58:10 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#8. To: Arator (#5)

Perhaps Wes can take his software to GCN and RBN's hosts can move to that platform.

RBN has some great shows that I would miss if RBN goes down the tubes.

During times of universal deceit, telling the truth becomes a revolutionary act.

Bill D Berger  posted on  2007-01-28   11:59:46 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#9. To: Bill D Berger (#8)

RBN has some great shows that I would miss if RBN goes down the tubes.

It would be a terrible loss, indeed.

Check out my blog, America, the Bushieful.

Arator  posted on  2007-01-28   12:04:20 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#10. To: noone222 (#6)

The more immediate concern should actually be the continuance of the network. It's sad to say but I don't think there is any question that John Stadtmiller has burnt this bridge down. I think he must remove himself or be removed in order for the Network to continue. This option might be untenable for Stadtmiller personally, but it is necessary if RBN is to continue unless Stadtmiller has an ace in the hole for funding it.

What a fracking mess! From what I'm reading here, that bridge is not only burnt, but the banks of the river have been salted with depleted uranium. I have to imagine that most of RBN's growth has come over the internet, and that was used to attract a lot of the new sponsors. Losing the streaming and archive delivery software would be hard enough to replace, but losing the domain names...just damn. Yeah, like the others said, don't piss off your IT guy. Especially when he owns your domains.

"First I'm gonna bother everybody I meet, and then I'll probably go home and get drunk."

orangedog  posted on  2007-01-28   12:59:13 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#11. To: noone222. all (#6)

Don't piss-off your techie bump

Earlier in the day I was getting some programming over the internet, but that has stopped here, and there is still programming over RFA.

Dr.Ron Paul for President

Lod  posted on  2007-01-28   13:07:18 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#12. To: Bill D Berger (#7)

How is it that this WES guy has warrants out for him and is so well known and has pissed off Stadtmiller (whoever he is)yet no one has bothered to arrest him. I say BS to his whole paranoid non sensical post. Maybe Alec Jones should look into this miscarriage of martydom.

willyone  posted on  2007-01-28   13:12:12 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#13. To: orangedog (#10) (Edited)

Truthfully, that network belongs a little to everyone that assisted in its development. Legally it's a different matter.

The expedient thing to do would be to help John leave gracefully, properly compensate Wes Perkins for his prior efforts and ask him to reboot the system with someone else managing it. And move on.

The problems that exist, both with Wes Perkins and Alex Jones, are of John Stadtmiller's own making, and I think he probably realizes it since everyone else seems to. Now John needs to make the appropriate decision regardless of how hard that might be, unless he has a financial backer willing to finance everything Wes Perkins was previously bringing to the network, as well as the attorney fees that might be forthcoming should Alex Jones bring an action against John and the network.

From a practical standpoint the easiest means of solving the existing problem is for John to bow out and for Alex to drop any potential legal action.

Question: What, if anything, actually makes John Stadtmiller the "owner" of RBN.

“The First Highest Masonic Council was, as we have already said, formed on 31st May 1801 in Charleston, 33 degrees northern latitude, under the chairmanship of the Jew Isaac Long, who was made inspector general by the Jew Moses Cohen, and who had received his degree from Hyes, from Franken, and the Jew Morin.”

noone222  posted on  2007-01-28   13:26:33 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#14. To: orangedog, noone222, Bill D Berger, ALL (#10)

i'm finding out there is much, much more to this. we must remember there are two sides to every story. there is both truth and fiction in the Wes affidavit.

christine  posted on  2007-01-28   13:38:27 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#15. To: christine (#14)

i'm finding out there is much, much more to this. we must remember there are two sides to every story. there is both truth and fiction in the Wes affidavit.

I hear you. This seems to have taken on a "Desperate Houswives" quality, to some extent. Maybe a better comparison would be the scene of the monkies at the watering hole in the movie "2001."

"First I'm gonna bother everybody I meet, and then I'll probably go home and get drunk."

orangedog  posted on  2007-01-28   13:52:02 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#16. To: Bill D Berger, all (#0) (Edited)

Mr. John Stadtmiller, I am loyal to the movement. - Wes Perkins

Horse shit Perkins. JS is no saint, and he apparently has a temper (who doesn't), but this "affidavit" smacks of bullshit. If any of the people mentioned felt threatened by JS, they're grown people and should have reported it to the authorities themselves. Since they apparently didn’t, it certainly isn‘t your job to do it for them. With the apparent silencing of RBN the patriot community is left with whatever Ted Anderson (GCN’s owner) wants to put on the air. I know this about Anderson; anyone who would consider Michael Trudeau a close friend and confident, as Anderson does, holds a far different political agenda than I do. Trudeau was an early staunch supporter of the Iraqi war and George Bush. I can only assume he still is. Perception is reality for me and since all this came down after the open air fight between Jones and Stadtmiller, I can only assume AJ is involved in the silencing of RBN which makes for a GCN without competition, something that is never good.

Jethro Tull  posted on  2007-01-28   14:43:14 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#17. To: Jethro Tull (#16)

I just hate this infighting BS. "Who benefits?" must be asked.

The moral and constitutional obligations of our representatives in Washington are to protect our liberty, not coddle the world, precipitating no-win wars, while bringing bankruptcy and economic turmoil to our people. ~Ron Paul

robin  posted on  2007-01-28   14:59:30 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#18. To: Jethro Tull (#16)

Excellent points.. btw who is Michael Trudeau ?

Zipporah  posted on  2007-01-28   15:01:28 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#19. To: Jethro Tull (#16)

which makes for a GCN without competition

And without a full compliment of programming which RBN did deliver. GCN has to be considered the primary beneficiary of this fall-out.

“The First Highest Masonic Council was, as we have already said, formed on 31st May 1801 in Charleston, 33 degrees northern latitude, under the chairmanship of the Jew Isaac Long, who was made inspector general by the Jew Moses Cohen, and who had received his degree from Hyes, from Franken, and the Jew Morin.”

noone222  posted on  2007-01-28   15:10:51 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#20. To: robin (#17)

Who benefits?

The OTHERS, as per usual.

Jethro Tull  posted on  2007-01-28   15:14:47 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#21. To: Redheadedstranger (#3)

Sounds like the guy is a Fed.

There's a fed under almost every bed these days. They look like us, walk like us, talk like us... the Hells Angels found that out:

That guy is a fed. Can't be too careful these days.


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Critter  posted on  2007-01-28   15:29:47 ET  (1 image) Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#22. To: noone222, Zipporah, robin, christine, a'' (#19)

Here's a blurb on Trudeau. As I said, I know him thru Ed Balajeski, a close personal friend who did a radio show with him for more than a year. He's a pro-war, Republican neocon. NTBT (not to be tristed) in my book.

Does any of the below sound familiar, as in the current RBN argument?

http://www.christianmediaresearch.com/brumrev-01.html

The short version is the Genesis Network was formed by Ted Anderson, Michael Trudeau, Paul and Debi Wright, and Chris Hanson. Anderson and Trudeau of Midas Resources, a gold and silver brokerage, provided the start-up capital. They stole the Republic network assets, studio equipment, and staff without paying the rightful owner — a woman named Loris Thompkins. The Genesis people repeatedly lied and sought to cover up their blatant theft. So naturally, as a good Christian man, Bill Brumbaugh decided to place his show with the thieves instead of the unjustly wronged Loris Thompkins of the Heritage Network.

The Midas people quickly formed Genesis utilizing studio equipment they had stolen from Republic literally on a weekend when Loris was out of town. Ms Thompkins, who was the rightful owner of Republic, formed the Heritage Network and promptly sued the slithery Genesis founders. Thus, all the former hosts at Republic had to make a decision as to which network they would continue to broadcast with. Because Ted Anderson of Midas Resources seemed to have all the money and Loris Thompkins was almost insolvent due to the treachery of the Genesis crowd, Bill Brumbaugh went with Genesis instead of Heritage. Bill Brumbaugh's siding with the evil perpetrators of this crime was an act of gross indifference to the scriptural admonition to take a stand for the right and "do justice for the afflicted." (2) But Bill was just getting started in his treacherous radio "career" and hadn't yet learned the full depth of the sleazy tactics he now employs.

Jethro Tull  posted on  2007-01-28   15:32:34 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#23. To: Critter (#21)

Is that you Critter?

Jethro Tull  posted on  2007-01-28   15:33:37 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#24. To: Jethro Tull (#23)

LOL! Nope, not me. But it is a warnng to everyone. Sometimes it's real hard to tell who the fed is.


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Critter  posted on  2007-01-28   15:40:48 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#25. To: Critter (#24)

edited

"You can not save the Constitution by destroying it."

Itisa1mosttoolate  posted on  2007-01-28   16:01:56 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#26. To: Itisa1mosttoolate (#25)

LoL! Dude, you blew up the thread!

"First I'm gonna bother everybody I meet, and then I'll probably go home and get drunk."

orangedog  posted on  2007-01-28   16:19:08 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#27. To: Itisa1mosttoolate (#25)

Quick! There's still time to edit that mess out! lol

I tried using links to feeds from the cached version on google and they're all dead, so a cached version is of no use at this point.


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Critter  posted on  2007-01-28   16:21:16 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#28. To: christine, all (#14) (Edited)

Alex has also told me about John admitting to having a hand in getting Mark Koernke thrown into prison, as well as being involved in the breakup of the Michigan Militia. On two separate occasions while Alex was co- hosting the Saturday show with Stadtmiller, John told Alex not to defend Koernke - "because he's bad. He messed with me and you saw what happened to him. I'm glad he's in prison."

i'm finding out there is much, much more to this. we must remember there are two sides to every story. there is both truth and fiction in the Wes affidavit.

Good, because I always thought he was a good guy since his early days on shortwave. I would be extremely disappointed if he were not true to the movement and was an infiltrator or a disruptor.

The details of this case not withstanding, there is one axiom that usually can be depended upon: The trustworthy patriots are the ones in jail or the ones murdered; i.e. you can't trust anyone in today's PoliceState.
Only a free man could ever be considered an agent provocateur for TheStateInc [One of which, IMO that is, is Bo Gritz.]

Koernke is in prison, Chuck Harder was destroyed financially and William Cooper was killed, along with the family of Mr Weaver. None of these people can ever be called agent provocateurs or double agents. Their persecution exemplifies their honesty.

Unfortunately, another axiom is that even honest people fight for power, which when involving folks in the cause, is extremely disappointing because it hurts all of us. I don't know or profess to judge anything here at all, but it sounds like someone, or some people, are not playing with a full deck. :((

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IndieTX  posted on  2007-01-28   17:28:09 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#29. To: Jethro Tull, orangedog, IndieTx, Bill D Berger, robin, Neil McIver, HOUNDDAWG, Critter. lodwick, Zipporah, itisa1mosttoolate, noone222, ALL (#27) (Edited)

John and Sandra just left our house. RBN's internet has been restored and the website will be back up within 48 hours (hopefully) thanks to a local software programmer who has generously offered to write the new script. John will be addressing this issue in the 2nd hour of his show tomorrow. Stay tuned..

christine  posted on  2007-01-28   17:38:13 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#30. To: christine (#29)

John and Sandra just left our house.

Oh so you're in on this conspiracy too eh? I always knew there was something peculiar about you... ;)


Support Ed Brown!

Critter  posted on  2007-01-28   17:39:38 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#31. To: Jethro Tull (#22)

Quite interesting.. thanks

One thought on this.. it seems what better place for charlatans and thieves to do their 'work' than within the 'patriot community.. consider most of those within that community think that the use of lawyers is unconscionable.. they would never dream of filing a lawsuit.. etc... so what better place for them to run rampant?

Zipporah  posted on  2007-01-28   17:45:53 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#32. To: christine (#29)

John will be addressing this issue in the 2nd hour of his show tomorrow. Stay tuned

Great News ! I sure hope this all works out for everyone concerned.

“The First Highest Masonic Council was, as we have already said, formed on 31st May 1801 in Charleston, 33 degrees northern latitude, under the chairmanship of the Jew Isaac Long, who was made inspector general by the Jew Moses Cohen, and who had received his degree from Hyes, from Franken, and the Jew Morin.”

noone222  posted on  2007-01-28   17:51:32 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#33. To: christine (#29)

John and Sandra just left our house. RBN's internet has been restored and the website will be back up within 48 hours (hopefully) thanks to a local software programmer who has generously offered to write the new script. John will be addressing this issue in the 2nd hour of his show tomorrow. Stay tuned..

excellent

The moral and constitutional obligations of our representatives in Washington are to protect our liberty, not coddle the world, precipitating no-win wars, while bringing bankruptcy and economic turmoil to our people. ~Ron Paul

robin  posted on  2007-01-28   17:57:30 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#34. To: christine (#29)

Be careful.

Mark

"I was real close to Building 7 when it fell down... That didn't sound like just a building falling down to me while I was running away from it. There's a lot of eyewitness testimony down there of hearing explosions. [..] and the whole time you're hearing "boom, boom, boom, boom, boom." I think I know an explosion when I hear it... — Former NYC Police Officer and 9/11 Rescue Worker Craig Bartmer

Kamala  posted on  2007-01-28   17:58:46 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#35. To: christine (#29)

he didn't pull any guns on you did he? good grief. Did Alex really say what is reported above, on the Jack Blood Show, about this guy maniacally puling a gun on him?

If Alex really did say what is reported in the transript above than one would have to decide if he believes Jones or Stadtmiller.

Since you are friends with Stadtmiller and a fan of Jones who would you believe? All this depending on the accurcy of the transcript above of course.

Artisan  posted on  2007-01-28   18:20:34 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#36. To: Artisan (#35)

he didn't pull any guns on you did he? good grief.

my husband and i have been with john and his wife countless times in social situations including at their home and have never seen john with a gun. i asked him about what alex reported and john claims he NEVER pointed the gun at alex but was simply showing it to him. it apparently was a recent purchase.

christine  posted on  2007-01-28   18:27:03 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#37. To: christine (#29)

on SW only? he needs a new domain name, (rbndead?)

"You can not save the Constitution by destroying it."

Itisa1mosttoolate  posted on  2007-01-28   18:39:36 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#38. To: christine (#36)

OK, The main thing I wasn't sure of is whether the transcript above is really what Alex actually said or if the guy writing it was embellishing it.

In other words I am not looking for a defense from Stadtmillers point of view but simply want to know. do you know if Alex Jones actually made these accusations against Stadtmiller?

Or is it third party lies? Since I don't listen to the jack blood show i have not heard the above.

Also this is interesting; the guy said:

I own the domain names http://rbnlive.com and http://rbnlive.net, and I want nothing further to do with a spider's web that is meant to catch well-meaning patriots like flies

I highly doubt anything will be up and running at the old site address since the owner controls it.

Sure, they can start a new site but control of what's on the domain RBNLIVE.COM will only have what it's owner wants on it. Anything else will be hacked out in court and will take months at least.

Artisan  posted on  2007-01-28   18:45:37 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#39. To: Artisan (#38)

do you know if Alex Jones actually made these accusations against Stadtmiller?

yes, alex did say that on the jack blood show.

i can't answer your question about the accuracy of the above statement regarding the domain ownership.

christine  posted on  2007-01-28   18:59:41 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#40. To: Critter (#21)

That bit about the gunshow and Stadtmiller trying to convince Alex Jones to buy him a pistol should have been a huge red flag to everyone.

"How legitimate is the Onion as a source?"----noone222

Redheadedstranger  posted on  2007-01-28   19:17:20 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#41. To: christine (#39)

Oh OK in that case that makes this more interesting. I wonder why a guy like Alex would purportedly, according to his own story, let someone point a gun at him and threaten him?? Doesn't sound like the Alex I 'know' (or at lest the personal he portrays) & certainly doesn't sound like someone with any sense or guts!

As far as the domain name I found something interesting regarding this wes perkins character.

http://www.wipo.int/amc/en/domains/decisions/html/2001/d2001-0533.html

An arbitration ruling in which, Perkins created and bought the domain name, initials which matched the name of an already existing company, which had a copyright on the name. Perkins made an offer to the company to buy it on ebay. their offer was not high enough, then someone bought the name from Perkins and tried to sell it to the company again. The ruling basically said it was in bad faith, implied that perkins may have been involved with the respondant (the current owner), and the legally binding ruling was the the domain name be transfered to the company because the current owner had no right to it.

That's not the same situation as the current one but is interesting nonetheless.

ALso, I wonder why people are prevented from buying domain names and selling them strictly for profit? I had read that people made quite a bundle doing that very thing. If I remember correctly, some court later ruled that people couldn't do that?

Artisan  posted on  2007-01-28   19:20:59 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#42. To: Critter (#30)

John and Sandra just left our house.

Oh so you're in on this conspiracy too eh? I always knew there was something peculiar about you... ;)

Bwahaha!

During times of universal deceit, telling the truth becomes a revolutionary act.

Bill D Berger  posted on  2007-01-28   19:28:10 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#43. To: christine (#39)

do you know if Alex Jones actually made these accusations against Stadtmiller?

yes, alex did say that on the jack blood show.

Well, the segment I heard and originally posted about, Alex never actually mentioned John by name.

Maybe he did at a later date.

During times of universal deceit, telling the truth becomes a revolutionary act.

Bill D Berger  posted on  2007-01-28   19:31:40 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#44. To: Artisan (#41)

ALso, I wonder why people are prevented from buying domain names and selling them strictly for profit? I had read that people made quite a bundle doing that very thing. If I remember correctly, some court later ruled that people couldn't do that?

I think what they were getting at was a practice from the 1990's known as domain squating, where someone for example might have bought the name xerox.com and just sat on it, having no other reason to register it than to extort xerox into paying for it. Generic domain names are fair game, like fatbroads.com or lardass.net.

"First I'm gonna bother everybody I meet, and then I'll probably go home and get drunk."

orangedog  posted on  2007-01-28   19:39:13 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#45. To: christine (#39)

Not knowing any facts, but having listened to both men for years [Alex and John], my gut...for what it's worth! LOL.. would tell me to go with John. Plus, since you know him, you'd certainly know if he was not what he claimed to be. He was the one of the first who first opened my eyes. I believe him to be sincere.

I don't think either are "bad guys," but the very fact this story was reported casts doubt on the entire movement and who we can and can not trust. I guess one way to sort it out perhaps is to "follow the money?" Who has to gain from this? Certainly not John or Alex because it makes them both look bad. Could it be psyops on the part of a third party trying to screw up the movement??? Just thinking out loud. [And I don't know what MArk did or who turned him in, but he was an obviously intelligent and eloquent speaker who I also felt was totally sincere. Now he's in jail...a sign of trust. He certainly wasn't on any StateInc payroll.

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IndieTX  posted on  2007-01-28   19:45:15 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#46. To: orangedog (#44)

http://Lardass.net....I could turn that into a fortune! I'd sell lots of high calorie gourmet foods! LOL!

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In a time of universal deceit, telling the truth is a revolutionary act - - George Orwell

IndieTX  posted on  2007-01-28   19:46:35 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#47. To: Bill D Berger (#43)

Alex Jones' bumper (intro) music was being played in the background while the commentary was expressed.

“The First Highest Masonic Council was, as we have already said, formed on 31st May 1801 in Charleston, 33 degrees northern latitude, under the chairmanship of the Jew Isaac Long, who was made inspector general by the Jew Moses Cohen, and who had received his degree from Hyes, from Franken, and the Jew Morin.”

noone222  posted on  2007-01-28   20:03:30 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#48. To: IndieTX (#46)

http://Lardass.net....I could turn that into a fortune! I'd sell lots of high calorie gourmet foods! LOL!

I only ask for 5% ;^)

"First I'm gonna bother everybody I meet, and then I'll probably go home and get drunk."

orangedog  posted on  2007-01-28   20:03:43 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#49. To: noone222 (#47)

Alex Jones' bumper (intro) music was being played in the background while the commentary was expressed.

Right...on John's show.

On the segment I heard with Jack Blood, Alex never mentioned John by name.

He merely said a "talk show host on another network."

During times of universal deceit, telling the truth becomes a revolutionary act.

Bill D Berger  posted on  2007-01-28   20:07:48 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#50. To: christine (#29)

christine. Is there any way you can get your hands on the various shortwave frequencies RBN transmits over? I have to blow the dust off this thing and get some batteries. It will have to do until he's back up and running. Good news about the 48 hours, etc.

Jethro Tull  posted on  2007-01-28   20:13:17 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#51. To: Artisan (#41)

FROM THE SAME RULING !

In effect the Panel infers that the transfer from Wes Perkins to the Respondent was not a genuine good faith transfer and that the re- registration of the Domain Name in the name of the Respondent is tainted by the manifest bad faith registration and use of the Domain Name by the original registrant. Nothing that the Respondent is reported to have said or done subsequently has encouraged the Panel to come to a different conclusion.

In all the circumstances, the Panel finds the Complainant’s unanswered allegations against the Respondent proved for the purposes of paragraph 4(a) (iii) of the Policy. The Panel finds that the Domain Name was registered in bad faith and is being used in bad faith.

7. Decision

In light of the foregoing findings, namely that: the Domain Name is identical to a trade mark in which the Complainant has rights; the Respondent has no rights or legitimate interests in respect of the Domain Name; and the Domain Name was registered in bad faith and is being used in bad faith, the Complaint succeeds.

The Panel directs that the Domain Name >http:// be transferred to the Complainant.

http://akg.com/site/powerslave,id,1,nodeid,1,_language,EN,country,EN.html

“The First Highest Masonic Council was, as we have already said, formed on 31st May 1801 in Charleston, 33 degrees northern latitude, under the chairmanship of the Jew Isaac Long, who was made inspector general by the Jew Moses Cohen, and who had received his degree from Hyes, from Franken, and the Jew Morin.”

noone222  posted on  2007-01-28   20:14:13 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#52. To: Jethro Tull (#50)

Daytime RBN frequency is 12.180. Mark Dankopf doesn't have SW yet. Then beginning with John's show, it's 5050 until Frank Whalen's show at 11. Then the frequency is 32.15.

christine  posted on  2007-01-28   20:41:52 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#53. To: christine (#52)

Then beginning with John's show, it's 5050 until Frank Whalen's show at 11.

I thought that was a pretty smart move by John or whomever made the decision to move Frank Whalen to 11 PM instead of 6 AM.

During times of universal deceit, telling the truth becomes a revolutionary act.

Bill D Berger  posted on  2007-01-28   21:14:25 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#54. To: Itisa1mosttoolate, christine, all (#37)

on SW only?

ShoutCast/Winamp - RBN Live Sat. Feed: http://66.221.81.186:8270

so, I take it this is the same Wes Perkins - President / CEO / Onsite Tech of Shield Communications, and former seti@home class of Aug.5,2000 member with none other than #176 "Paul Martin", and tried to milk AKG Acoustics over a domain name and lost?

Queried whois.bulkregister.com with "rbnlive.com"...

=-=-=-=

Registration Service Provided By: LTRN.net
Contact: sysadmin_200701@ltrn.com

Domain name: rbnlive.com

Registrant Contact:
Republic Broadcasting Network
NULL NULL (NA)
NULL
Fax:
1015 S. Mays Ste 100
Round Rock, TX 78664
US

Queried whois.bulkregister.com with "rbnlive.net"...

=-=-=-=

Registration Service Provided By: LTRN.net
Contact: sysadmin_200701@ltrn.com

Domain name: rbnlive.net

Registrant Contact:
Republic Broadcasting Network
NULL NULL (NA)
NULL
Fax:
1015 S. Mays Ste 100
Round Rock, TX 78664
US

Network Whois record

Queried whois.arin.net with "!NET-66-118-228-0-1"... CustName: LAN's Edge
Address: PRIVATE RESIDENCE
City: Austin
StateProv: TX
PostalCode: 78757
Country: US
RegDate: 2004-05-07
Updated: 2004-05-07

DNS records

nameclasstypedatatime to live
rbnlive.netINSOA
server:ns1.rbnlive.net
email:sysadmin.rbnlive.net
serial:1169866107
refresh:3600
retry:1800
expire:2592000
minimum ttl:900
900s(00:15:00)
rbnlive.netINNSns1.rbnlive.net900s(00:15:00)
rbnlive.netINNSns2.rbnlive.net900s(00:15:00)
rbnlive.netINMX
preference:10
exchange:mail.shield.com
900s(00:15:00)
rbnlive.netINTXTv=spf1 ip4:66.118.228.0/26 a mx -all900s(00:15:00)
rbnlive.netINA66.118.228.5900s(00:15:00)
5.228.118.66.in-addr.arpaINPTRw2.shield.com900s(00:15:00)
meh. kinda' looks that way.

hammerdown  posted on  2007-01-28   21:29:45 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#55. To: Jethro Tull (#50)

see #54 for satellite feed on shoutcast

hammerdown  posted on  2007-01-28   21:35:57 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#56. To: hammerdown (#55)

are you saying we can get RBN on the net ?

christine  posted on  2007-01-28   21:50:15 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#57. To: christine, hammerdown (#56)

http://911blog.org/

YES, hammerdown!!!!!

Jethro Tull  posted on  2007-01-28   21:53:22 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#58. To: hammerdown (#55)

oh, tim! got it! i love you for finding this! i just called john and gave him the url. he was so happy! also, thanks for posting the information on the domain ownership. it's registered to RBN, not to wes perkins.

christine  posted on  2007-01-28   22:03:30 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#59. To: Jethro Tull (#57)

Why are you joining the Stadtmiller whitewash, JT?

"How legitimate is the Onion as a source?"----noone222

Redheadedstranger  posted on  2007-01-28   22:10:23 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#60. To: christine (#58)

y/w. the shield.com that I highlighted is his network hook to it on the rbn.net side. I don't know if the "NULL" entries are a security thing through the registrar, guess it just matters who actually signed the contracts.

hammerdown  posted on  2007-01-28   23:00:42 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#61. To: Jethro Tull (#57)

Thanks! that was very nice of them to do that in three formats.
I just searched in winamp radio for RBN and found the mp3 feed.

hammerdown  posted on  2007-01-28   23:04:06 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#62. To: Bill D Berger (#49)

On the segment I heard with Jack Blood, Alex never mentioned John by name.

He merely said a "talk show host on another network."

He said some other stuff ... like "carpetbagger" and "counterfeit patriot" ... stuff that would be understood by John and others that were familiar with John and Alex.

“The First Highest Masonic Council was, as we have already said, formed on 31st May 1801 in Charleston, 33 degrees northern latitude, under the chairmanship of the Jew Isaac Long, who was made inspector general by the Jew Moses Cohen, and who had received his degree from Hyes, from Franken, and the Jew Morin.”

noone222  posted on  2007-01-29   7:12:46 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#63. To: hammerdown (#54)

E-MAIL Wes at this e-mail address and ask him what the fuck ???

wes_p@shield.com

He should get "lots" of e-mail and people should ask him to explain his actions that are depriving people that have supported "BOTH" RBN and GCN of alternative news and views.

Surely there could have been a more civilized way to handle whatever problem has caused this disruption.

“The First Highest Masonic Council was, as we have already said, formed on 31st May 1801 in Charleston, 33 degrees northern latitude, under the chairmanship of the Jew Isaac Long, who was made inspector general by the Jew Moses Cohen, and who had received his degree from Hyes, from Franken, and the Jew Morin.”

noone222  posted on  2007-01-29   8:05:48 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#64. To: noone222 (#63)

Surely there could have been a more civilized way to handle whatever problem has caused this disruption.

WTF is right.. now people should be asking themselves ..truly what was the point of this person taking RBN off the net? Was it to be sure that many people would read his 'affidavit' ? And what might the purpose of that be? If in fact this person had some legal issue with Stadtmiller then why didnt he either report him to the authorities and/or sue Stadtmiller? This all rather has an air of skunk IMO but then I may be wrong.. ?

Zipporah  posted on  2007-01-29   8:20:45 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#65. To: Redheadedstranger (#59) (Edited)

Why are you joining the Stadtmiller whitewash, JT?

I don't think anyone wants to take sides. I think some of us would like a real explanation why what amounts to a separation has been handled like a "war of the Roses" type of divorce action.

People with a true purpose that are honestly determined to see a restoration of liberty in this country know we need both of these networks and more to get the word out.

While GCN has two programs that are stellar, RBN offers a very complimentary and necessary programming schedule.

A public airing of petty disagreements isn't conducive to the stated purpose of either network or the people within them.

Corrected e-mail address returned with failed message was: wesp@shield.com

IP address: 66.118.228.7

“The First Highest Masonic Council was, as we have already said, formed on 31st May 1801 in Charleston, 33 degrees northern latitude, under the chairmanship of the Jew Isaac Long, who was made inspector general by the Jew Moses Cohen, and who had received his degree from Hyes, from Franken, and the Jew Morin.”

noone222  posted on  2007-01-29   8:45:13 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#66. To: Jethro Tull (#16)

If any of the people mentioned felt threatened by JS, they're grown people and should have reported it to the authorities themselves.

Erm.. Not to split hairs, but isn't asking adherents to an anarchical patriot movement to go to the "authorities" a bit unrealistic?

These folks are supposed to be revolutionaries, remember?

the law, in its majestic equality, forbids the rich as well as the poor to sleep under bridges, beg in the streets and steal bread.

bluedogtxn  posted on  2007-01-29   9:44:13 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#67. To: bluedogtxn (#66)

Yes, I agree. That was my attempt to treat his "public affidavit" with the absurdity it deserves.

Jethro Tull  posted on  2007-01-29   9:50:44 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#68. To: Zipporah, ALL (#64)

Alex Jones sure is going overboard on the self-serving, holier than thou, horseshit this morning. He must be feeling a little guilty for heading up the espionage crew for Ted Anderson that appears to be trying to wreck RBN.

Unbelieveable !

“The First Highest Masonic Council was, as we have already said, formed on 31st May 1801 in Charleston, 33 degrees northern latitude, under the chairmanship of the Jew Isaac Long, who was made inspector general by the Jew Moses Cohen, and who had received his degree from Hyes, from Franken, and the Jew Morin.”

noone222  posted on  2007-01-29   12:35:43 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#69. To: noone222 (#68)

Alex Jones sure is going overboard on the self-serving, holier than thou, horseshit this morning. He must be feeling a little guilty for heading up the espionage crew for Ted Anderson that appears to be trying to wreck RBN.

Unbelieveable !

Oh really? Now isnt this too interesting.. What did he say to make you think it was guilt rather than possibly trying to look pristine and distance himself?

Zipporah  posted on  2007-01-29   12:37:45 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#70. To: Zipporah (#69) (Edited)

Everything he was saying was speaking against doing exactly what has been done.

He mentioned people choosing sides simply to be on the winning side regardless of the issue, or doing it for money etc, or picking on the weaker element.

I'll replay it later and be more specific in another post, but I was getting nauseated just listening to it because it was pure propaganda.

Makes me rethink the accusations made by Wing TV.

“The First Highest Masonic Council was, as we have already said, formed on 31st May 1801 in Charleston, 33 degrees northern latitude, under the chairmanship of the Jew Isaac Long, who was made inspector general by the Jew Moses Cohen, and who had received his degree from Hyes, from Franken, and the Jew Morin.”

noone222  posted on  2007-01-29   12:46:23 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#71. To: noone222 (#70)

Funny you should mention Wing TV .. for that came to mind when I started looking past the 'words' and looking at exactly 'what' they were saying..

It is sickening for they seem not to feel any responsibility to their listeners..

Zipporah  posted on  2007-01-29   12:49:47 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#72. To: Zipporah (#71)

It'll sure look sleazy if AJ and Jack Blood are determined to be toadies for Ted Anderson. (Especially after this mornings self aggrandizement and syrupy sick self-promotion by Alex Jones.)

“The First Highest Masonic Council was, as we have already said, formed on 31st May 1801 in Charleston, 33 degrees northern latitude, under the chairmanship of the Jew Isaac Long, who was made inspector general by the Jew Moses Cohen, and who had received his degree from Hyes, from Franken, and the Jew Morin.”

noone222  posted on  2007-01-29   13:22:23 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#73. To: noone222 (#6)

I as well as others here have supported both GCN and RBN. We feel they are important and valuable commodities, and RBN is worth salvaging.

For emotional effect, Eisner added, "I love this company. The board loves this company. And we are all passionate about the output from this company." But the audience was passionate about Roy Disney. Looking and sounding eerily like his Uncle Walt, seemingly back from the dead after nearly four decades, Roy took the microphone and spoke to the masses. "Branding is something you do to cows," he said. "Branding is what you do when there's nothing original about your product. But there is something original about our products. Or at least there used to be." The audience erupted in cheers. In that instant, the days of King Eisner's unchallenged rule came to an end.

So I saw Disney on Ice. Should I make anything of the fact that Mulan gave a brief introduction to the dialectic, and Cinderella appeared in a gilded cage?

Tauzero  posted on  2007-01-29   14:23:32 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#74. To: Zipporah (#71) (Edited)

Alex hasn't taken a single call yet and there's only 30 minutes left !!!

Must be taking tips from Limpjaw !

1st caller at 1:33 PM Eastern

“The First Highest Masonic Council was, as we have already said, formed on 31st May 1801 in Charleston, 33 degrees northern latitude, under the chairmanship of the Jew Isaac Long, who was made inspector general by the Jew Moses Cohen, and who had received his degree from Hyes, from Franken, and the Jew Morin.”

noone222  posted on  2007-01-29   14:23:34 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#75. To: noone222, all (#74)

He's addressing it now. As I understand it, Wes doesn't own the domain RBN name as AJ is claiming. If he doesn't, as Hammerdown's research indicates above, AJ best addresses the error ASAP.

Jethro Tull  posted on  2007-01-29   14:55:58 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#76. To: Jethro Tull (#75)

He has the ability to address it ... while Stadtmiller is yet unable to do so. He has only had 4 callers ... all out of State callers ... and has also been involved in taking down RBN as a toady for Ted Anderson and GCN.

All of the talk hosts for RBN have been approached to join a new network out of Austin called We The People ... and earlier their website showed Alex Jones, Jack Blood and Webster Tarpley as hosts on their schedule.

This didn't result simply from an in house employ/employer/contractor dispute. This has been planned. Also, it is my understanding that John Stadtmiller and his wife Sandra had bailed Wes Perkins out of Jail 3 times, and this wasn't mentioned either.

“The First Highest Masonic Council was, as we have already said, formed on 31st May 1801 in Charleston, 33 degrees northern latitude, under the chairmanship of the Jew Isaac Long, who was made inspector general by the Jew Moses Cohen, and who had received his degree from Hyes, from Franken, and the Jew Morin.”

noone222  posted on  2007-01-29   15:03:33 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#77. To: noone222 (#76)

This didn't result simply from an in house employ/employer/contractor dispute. This has been planned.

The more comes out, the more this sounds like the night of the long knives. And what's the deal with the other network? Is Jones getting ready to dump GCN and start his own thing?

"First I'm gonna bother everybody I meet, and then I'll probably go home and get drunk."

orangedog  posted on  2007-01-29   15:21:30 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#78. To: orangedog (#77)

And what's the deal with the other network? Is Jones getting ready to dump GCN and start his own thing?

Jones and Blood were already being carried on the RFA Network of micros, I don't know about Webster Tarpley but that's very possible too. (Someone from Austin would have to tell you). Many of RBN's programs were also being streamed on the internet and played on micro-broadcasting towers around Austin and other areas. The new website looks strikingly like RFA's (Radio Free Austin).

Actually, these people have organized a coup to destroy John Stadtmiller and at the same time are disregarding the financial supports and interest shown by others in the movement for RBN's superior over-all programming. The final and conclusive move was to convince Wes Perkins to abandon RBN and take his server with him. This effectively shut down RBN's ability to interact on the internet and the micros. I'm not sure whether or not RBN is on the shortwave today as I use the internet.

Maybe someone that has internet and shortwave can better inform us.

“The First Highest Masonic Council was, as we have already said, formed on 31st May 1801 in Charleston, 33 degrees northern latitude, under the chairmanship of the Jew Isaac Long, who was made inspector general by the Jew Moses Cohen, and who had received his degree from Hyes, from Franken, and the Jew Morin.”

noone222  posted on  2007-01-29   15:33:43 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#79. To: noone222 (#76)

Not wanting to get into this food fight but I need to set the record straight...as many know John and myself have had our differences over the past decade but we did not take it into the public square,the actions of a few now raise questions as to who was doing what to whom...the "wethepeopleradionetwork" was designed by RBN's webmaster Danny(not hard to figure that out) and it was reg on 13 Jan 2007 22:09:51 by Wes's company who also own's rbnlive domain as well as my RepublicTradingGroup.Com,I notice the reference to AJ and Jackblood are no longer posted this is interesting...being one of the hosts on RBN I was not contacted to join this new group and I was with both Wes and Danny two weeks ago the only conclusion I can come to is because I run a gold company...so does Ted Anderson...GCN's finger prints are all over this

robnoel  posted on  2007-01-29   15:34:35 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#80. To: noone222 (#76) (Edited)

now interesting isnt this? Stadtmiller has been maligned and has now no way to address these accusations other than in a very limited way.

Zipporah  posted on  2007-01-29   15:50:36 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#81. To: noone222 (#74)

Alex hasn't taken a single call yet and there's only 30 minutes left !!!

oh? .. now isnt that convenient??

Zipporah  posted on  2007-01-29   15:55:10 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#82. To: robnoel (#79)

Thanks for the update ... I hope RBN is able to survive the attackers.

“The First Highest Masonic Council was, as we have already said, formed on 31st May 1801 in Charleston, 33 degrees northern latitude, under the chairmanship of the Jew Isaac Long, who was made inspector general by the Jew Moses Cohen, and who had received his degree from Hyes, from Franken, and the Jew Morin.”

noone222  posted on  2007-01-29   15:58:49 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#83. To: robnoel (#79)

Thanks for your input on this, rob. I'll look forward to listening to your show again when RBN gets back on the net. Keep up the good work.

"First I'm gonna bother everybody I meet, and then I'll probably go home and get drunk."

orangedog  posted on  2007-01-29   16:13:26 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#84. To: Zipporah (#81) (Edited)

Now Alex Jones is on Blood's show re-gurgitating his poopaganda ... I hope everyone is listening.

Addendum: AJ is naming names, calling names and acting like a little (fat) snitchin bitch. Sorry, but it's the truth.

“The First Highest Masonic Council was, as we have already said, formed on 31st May 1801 in Charleston, 33 degrees northern latitude, under the chairmanship of the Jew Isaac Long, who was made inspector general by the Jew Moses Cohen, and who had received his degree from Hyes, from Franken, and the Jew Morin.”

noone222  posted on  2007-01-29   16:16:22 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#85. To: orangedog (#83)

You can still tune in on the net by going to RBN Live Sat Feed http://66.221.81.186:8270/

robnoel  posted on  2007-01-29   16:18:53 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#86. To: robnoel (#85)

I'm already there. Your show and a couple others are ones I download so I can listen to them at work on my mp3 player, thus saving a small piece of what's left of my sanity.

"First I'm gonna bother everybody I meet, and then I'll probably go home and get drunk."

orangedog  posted on  2007-01-29   16:26:01 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#87. To: robnoel, ALL (#79)

Ted Anderson...GCN's finger prints are all over this

absolutely. look at how anderson acquired genesis. you'll see the blueprint for what is being attempted now with regard to RBN. also, notice in AJ's little diatribe today, there was no mention of their new network. i had the feeling that their conspiracy to take down RBN is being hidden behind wes perkins. another thing, alex jones claimed that john stadtmiller called the police on wes perkins. this is not true if he was referencing his traffic violations and subsequent warrants. first of all, why would john do that when wes was working for him at RBN? would it make sense that he would want wes jailed when he needed him at the network? and #2, on three occasions, when wes was arrested, it was john stadtmiller who went down to the jail and bailed him out. curious that that information was omitted.

christine  posted on  2007-01-29   16:27:09 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#88. To: christine (#87)

Now Alex Jones is on Blood's show re-gurgitating his poopaganda ... I hope everyone is listening.

Addendum: AJ is naming names, calling names and acting like a little (fat) snitchin bitch. Sorry, but it's the truth.

“The First Highest Masonic Council was, as we have already said, formed on 31st May 1801 in Charleston, 33 degrees northern latitude, under the chairmanship of the Jew Isaac Long, who was made inspector general by the Jew Moses Cohen, and who had received his degree from Hyes, from Franken, and the Jew Morin.”

noone222  posted on  2007-01-29   16:34:28 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#89. To: christine (#87)

Well I guess it's going to get even more ugly judging by AJ's rant a few minutes ago...this is not good.

robnoel  posted on  2007-01-29   16:34:30 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#90. To: robnoel (#89)

dear god. this is just sad. really sad.

christine  posted on  2007-01-29   16:45:25 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#91. To: orangedog (#77)

http://www.wtprn.com/

Mark

"I was real close to Building 7 when it fell down... That didn't sound like just a building falling down to me while I was running away from it. There's a lot of eyewitness testimony down there of hearing explosions. [..] and the whole time you're hearing "boom, boom, boom, boom, boom." I think I know an explosion when I hear it... — Former NYC Police Officer and 9/11 Rescue Worker Craig Bartmer

Kamala  posted on  2007-01-29   16:47:38 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#92. To: christine (#90)

These two Ted Anderson lap dogs have really gone low rent. Yes it's sad, but it's even sadder not knowing our enemies.

Jethro Tull  posted on  2007-01-29   16:48:09 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#93. To: christine. everyone here (#90)

dear god. this is just sad. really sad.

I'm pissed at everyone involved with this fiasco - we're in a war, and our own troops are busy shooting each other.

How very genius.

Dr.Ron Paul for President

Lod  posted on  2007-01-29   16:48:39 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#94. To: lodwick (#93)

we're in a war, and our own troops are busy shooting each other.

This is a well planned, well financed, "very" hostile takeover. AJ said they had secured Wes a Lawyer (pay-off).

This trash is below the belt shit, pure shit.

“The First Highest Masonic Council was, as we have already said, formed on 31st May 1801 in Charleston, 33 degrees northern latitude, under the chairmanship of the Jew Isaac Long, who was made inspector general by the Jew Moses Cohen, and who had received his degree from Hyes, from Franken, and the Jew Morin.”

noone222  posted on  2007-01-29   16:55:31 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#95. To: noone222. everyone here (#94)

http://www.vt911.org and http://www.corridorwatch.org will be receiving my FRN donations until, and unless, these children stop their war of attrition with each other.

Dr.Ron Paul for President

Lod  posted on  2007-01-29   17:08:03 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#96. To: noone222 (#94)

This is a well planned, well financed, "very" hostile takeover. AJ said they had secured Wes a Lawyer (pay-off).

I couldn't agree more. This is Anderson's MO.

Jethro Tull  posted on  2007-01-29   17:16:49 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#97. To: Jethro Tull (#96) (Edited)

This is Anderson's MO

Scumbags ... every one of them that participated in this scam.

Punks, pussies and "gatekeepers" ... shills for a buck !

I've never said anything like this about Alex Jones or Jack Blood. Actually, I've even made supporting statements relative to Alex Jones when he has been attacked in the past. No mas.

This act was in poor taste, destructive to free speech and is an attempt to load GCN up on another network, the guts of which is being stolen by punks that Stadtmiller trusted.

Never was this deal with Wes Perkins any of Alex Jones' affair. He may have a beef with Stadtmiller, so what. He and Blood have convinced Wes to betray Stadtmiller by playing on his empty wallet and fear of arrest. They've hired him a lawyer and who knows what else to shut RBN down.

Fuck Ted Anderson and his toadies.

Also: Wes was living in a place provided by a guy that was his buddy at RFA (Radio Free Austin). He had to kick Wes and his family out because they were living like white trash and thrashing his house.

This story is being told from only one side and Stadtmiller should demand equal time on Jack Blood's [A.K.A. John Clayton] "metha"-enerfood low-rider program just to spite those pus bags.

“The First Highest Masonic Council was, as we have already said, formed on 31st May 1801 in Charleston, 33 degrees northern latitude, under the chairmanship of the Jew Isaac Long, who was made inspector general by the Jew Moses Cohen, and who had received his degree from Hyes, from Franken, and the Jew Morin.”

noone222  posted on  2007-01-29   17:25:38 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#98. To: noone222 (#97)

Also: Wes was living in a place provided by a guy that was his buddy at RFA (Radio Free Austin). He had to kick Wes and his family out because they were living like white trash and thrashing his house.

Seriously?

Zipporah  posted on  2007-01-29   17:57:39 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#99. To: Zipporah (#98) (Edited)

He had to kick Wes and his family out because they were living like white trash and thrashing his house. Seriously?

Yes. [Two sources].

“The First Highest Masonic Council was, as we have already said, formed on 31st May 1801 in Charleston, 33 degrees northern latitude, under the chairmanship of the Jew Isaac Long, who was made inspector general by the Jew Moses Cohen, and who had received his degree from Hyes, from Franken, and the Jew Morin.”

noone222  posted on  2007-01-29   18:00:11 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#100. To: noone222 (#99)

Well.. well the plot thickens..

Zipporah  posted on  2007-01-29   18:03:38 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#101. To: All (#100)

I hope everyone heard Stadtmiller's statement.. clarified a lot IMO.

Zipporah  posted on  2007-01-29   18:40:46 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#102. To: Zipporah (#101)

i agree.

christine  posted on  2007-01-29   18:41:45 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#103. To: christine (#102)

I wonder if there is going to be a transcript?

Zipporah  posted on  2007-01-29   18:45:17 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#104. To: christine (#102)

Stadtmiller has done a great job today ... I'm listening on the internet through winamp (shoutcast) ... hope everyone else is getting it.

“The First Highest Masonic Council was, as we have already said, formed on 31st May 1801 in Charleston, 33 degrees northern latitude, under the chairmanship of the Jew Isaac Long, who was made inspector general by the Jew Moses Cohen, and who had received his degree from Hyes, from Franken, and the Jew Morin.”

noone222  posted on  2007-01-29   18:50:11 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#105. To: noone222 (#104)

To hell with all these egotistical idiots...I'm just going to sit here and wait for the sh*t to hit the fan.

Remember...G-d saved more animals than people on the ark. www.siameserescue.org

who knows what evil  posted on  2007-01-29   18:56:22 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#106. To: noone222 (#104)

shortwave 5050

Mark

"I was real close to Building 7 when it fell down... That didn't sound like just a building falling down to me while I was running away from it. There's a lot of eyewitness testimony down there of hearing explosions. [..] and the whole time you're hearing "boom, boom, boom, boom, boom." I think I know an explosion when I hear it... — Former NYC Police Officer and 9/11 Rescue Worker Craig Bartmer

Kamala  posted on  2007-01-29   18:56:30 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#107. To: Jethro Tull (#92)

Yes it's sad, but it's even sadder not knowing our enemies.

There's an easy way to handle this: from now on, everyone is my enemy, until they prove otherwise. I'll never be disappointed again. :-)

Remember...G-d saved more animals than people on the ark. www.siameserescue.org

who knows what evil  posted on  2007-01-29   18:58:38 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#108. To: who knows what evil (#105)

I can relate to that ... hahahaha ... this is a sad statement.

“The First Highest Masonic Council was, as we have already said, formed on 31st May 1801 in Charleston, 33 degrees northern latitude, under the chairmanship of the Jew Isaac Long, who was made inspector general by the Jew Moses Cohen, and who had received his degree from Hyes, from Franken, and the Jew Morin.”

noone222  posted on  2007-01-29   18:58:54 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#109. To: noone222 (#108)

this is a sad statement.

It sure is, but at least this big fat Captain and coke I'm sipping makes me feel better about it. :-)

Remember...G-d saved more animals than people on the ark. www.siameserescue.org

who knows what evil  posted on  2007-01-29   19:01:12 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#110. To: noone222, hammerdown, ALL (#108)

is there any way we can get a replay of john's show?

christine  posted on  2007-01-29   19:04:04 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#111. To: who knows what evil (#109)

When it comes down to the nut-cuttin ... anyone that doesn't toe the zionazi line becomes a target, and the hitmen are usually the ones you least expect ... ask Bobby Kennedy who shot him, or ask Martin Luther King who Jesse Jackson signaled ...

John was bushwhacked.

“The First Highest Masonic Council was, as we have already said, formed on 31st May 1801 in Charleston, 33 degrees northern latitude, under the chairmanship of the Jew Isaac Long, who was made inspector general by the Jew Moses Cohen, and who had received his degree from Hyes, from Franken, and the Jew Morin.”

noone222  posted on  2007-01-29   19:05:52 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#112. To: christine (#110)

is there any way we can get a replay of john's show?

I don't know of one unless everything on shoutcast is archived and I doubt it is ... someone may have taped it off of the short-wave.

“The First Highest Masonic Council was, as we have already said, formed on 31st May 1801 in Charleston, 33 degrees northern latitude, under the chairmanship of the Jew Isaac Long, who was made inspector general by the Jew Moses Cohen, and who had received his degree from Hyes, from Franken, and the Jew Morin.”

noone222  posted on  2007-01-29   19:08:52 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#113. To: christine (#110) (Edited)

Robbie's getting ready to out Ted Anderson !!!!

Midas ... I'll fuckin say it ... Ted Anderson and Midas Resources have conspired to trash RBN.

“The First Highest Masonic Council was, as we have already said, formed on 31st May 1801 in Charleston, 33 degrees northern latitude, under the chairmanship of the Jew Isaac Long, who was made inspector general by the Jew Moses Cohen, and who had received his degree from Hyes, from Franken, and the Jew Morin.”

noone222  posted on  2007-01-29   19:14:00 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#114. To: noone222, christine (#111)

John was bushwhacked.

They're circling the wagons...the number of 'friends' at Alex's 'My Space' account have jumped by 2000!!! people over the past few hours. As Captain Marvel would say: "Holy Moley"!

Remember...G-d saved more animals than people on the ark. www.siameserescue.org

who knows what evil  posted on  2007-01-29   19:25:43 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#115. To: who knows what evil (#114)

the number of 'friends' at Alex's 'My Space' account have jumped by 2000

There's 2000 people in danger ... call out the guard !!!

“The First Highest Masonic Council was, as we have already said, formed on 31st May 1801 in Charleston, 33 degrees northern latitude, under the chairmanship of the Jew Isaac Long, who was made inspector general by the Jew Moses Cohen, and who had received his degree from Hyes, from Franken, and the Jew Morin.”

noone222  posted on  2007-01-29   19:33:08 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#116. To: noone222 (#115)

There's 2000 people in danger ... call out the guard !!!

There are idiots posting at LP that probably believe that...

Remember...G-d saved more animals than people on the ark. www.siameserescue.org

who knows what evil  posted on  2007-01-29   19:34:50 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#117. To: noone222 (#113)

i hear you on the air now. good job calling in to say you got your orders. ;)

christine  posted on  2007-01-29   19:35:07 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#118. To: christine (#117) (Edited)

They "need" to do some business !!!

Oh yeah ... Jack (John Clayton) Blood is a carpetbagger ain't he ?

“The First Highest Masonic Council was, as we have already said, formed on 31st May 1801 in Charleston, 33 degrees northern latitude, under the chairmanship of the Jew Isaac Long, who was made inspector general by the Jew Moses Cohen, and who had received his degree from Hyes, from Franken, and the Jew Morin.”

noone222  posted on  2007-01-29   19:41:35 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#119. To: noone222, Christine, Jethro Tull (#118)

oh man!!! this is too much for my little brain to process.

Alex Jones is fat though, and at a young age. reminds me of Rush.

Galatians 3:29 And if ye [be] Christ's, then are ye Abraham's seed, and heirs according to the promise.

Red Jones  posted on  2007-01-29   20:56:16 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#120. To: Red Jones (#119)

oh man!!! this is too much for my little brain to process.

bump it

Dr.Ron Paul for President

Lod  posted on  2007-01-29   21:15:25 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#121. To: Red Jones (#119)

Alex Jones is fat though, and at a young age. reminds me of Rush.

At least Rush can ride the "big kid" rides at Disneyland.

“The First Highest Masonic Council was, as we have already said, formed on 31st May 1801 in Charleston, 33 degrees northern latitude, under the chairmanship of the Jew Isaac Long, who was made inspector general by the Jew Moses Cohen, and who had received his degree from Hyes, from Franken, and the Jew Morin.”

noone222  posted on  2007-01-29   22:14:28 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#122. To: noone222, Jethro Tull (#121)

If Wes Perkins got bailed out of jail multiple times by Stadtmiller and now he's turned on Stadtmiller, then that is not loyal of Wes.

so sad that in the business world people lie so frequently & back-stab. So much dishonesty.

Techies do frequently get screwed over & disrespected is my opinion.

it's kind of crazy. What is Jones really up to is what everyone wants to know.

I don't like this Jack Blood character, he's totally fake, obnoxious too. he should just use his real name, or at least a name that doesn't sound like a cartoon-character's name.

given all the 'stuff' we've seen we should be skeptical IMHO.

Limbaugh is an agent. For a long time he didn't seem as such.

we've got a retired NYC police officer (JT) on the case and you others too, so I hope we learn more about it. this is important to our community, especially the character and nature of Alex Jones. as he is the talented one.

people the world over trust Alex Jones.

Galatians 3:29 And if ye [be] Christ's, then are ye Abraham's seed, and heirs according to the promise.

Red Jones  posted on  2007-01-29   22:57:59 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#123. To: christine (#110)

is there any way we can get a replay of john's show?

Perhaps this page?

I just want you to know that, when we talk about war, we're really talking about peace. — George W. Bush, June 18, 2002, 10:30 A.M. EDT

rack42  posted on  2007-01-29   23:04:35 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#124. To: All (#123)

I have AJ on Jack Blood show in MP3 format.

The above link requires registration but doesn't require e-mail authorization (ie, give any email that you want, you're immediately registered).

To get the file you must use a "Bit Torrent" application. It's not hard, but can be confusing.

If someone knows where I can upload a 13 Meg mp3 for other's download, let me know.

I just want you to know that, when we talk about war, we're really talking about peace. — George W. Bush, June 18, 2002, 10:30 A.M. EDT

rack42  posted on  2007-01-29   23:29:49 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#125. To: rack42 (#124)

i want john's rebuttal on RBN today. i'm going to call his engineer tomorrow and see if i can get an mp3 of it.

christine  posted on  2007-01-29   23:59:31 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#126. To: All (#91)

http://www.wtprn.com/

This page has been altered and now has some statement.

Prior it had 4 articles from the 22nd, with links to Nimmo and Watson and others.

Mark

"I was real close to Building 7 when it fell down... That didn't sound like just a building falling down to me while I was running away from it. There's a lot of eyewitness testimony down there of hearing explosions. [..] and the whole time you're hearing "boom, boom, boom, boom, boom." I think I know an explosion when I hear it... — Former NYC Police Officer and 9/11 Rescue Worker Craig Bartmer

Kamala  posted on  2007-01-30   6:35:26 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#127. To: Kamala, all (#126) (Edited)

We The People Radio Network>>

OK, the bullshit continues. Isn't that advertising on the right? I see at least two advertisers. Brave New Books is one and the other still has an active link http://austinwheatgrass.com The Ron Paul link, incidentaly, brings the visitor to AJshttp:/ /www.prisonplanet.com/articles/january2007/120107ronpaul.htm

Also, in the first sentence, the mission of the website is made clear; "(a) FUTURE SOURCE OF INDEPENDENT STREAMS AND PODCASTS TO SERVE AS AN EMERGENCY ALTERNATIVE IN THE EVENT THAT ANY LOCAL STATIONS SELF DESTRUCTED. The second sentence spins a different tale; "AT THIS MOMENT IN TIME, THIS SITE IS INACTIVE AND HAS NOT RECRUITED ANY HOSTS OR ADVERTISING AND IS STILL IN ITS CONCEPTUAL STAGE."

So, apparently, it was constructed by former employees of RBN to broadcast unknown streams and podcasts in the event of emergency. But this is subject to change because it's still in its conceptual stage.

At the top there are links, one for SPONSORS yet according to the mission station; AT THIS MOMENT IN TIME, THIS SITE IS INACTIVE AND HAS NOT RECRUITED ANY HOSTS OR ADVERTISING. Well SITES aren't capable of contacting anybody or anything, they just exist in cyberspace so that piece of doublespeak doesn't fly. The site may not have contacted anyone, but someone from the site must have. Nor does the statement no hosts have been contacted. Why would a host be needed if the mission statement states the website exists (as) a FUTURE SOURCE OF INDEPENDENT STREAMS AND PODCASTS. I understand hosts were indeed contacted.

Nice try at damage control guys, but this fails the stink test. As I understand it this site was built by people who were then employed by RBN. As they were collecting their check from John, this effort was simultaneously launched. Can someone say lack of character and honor?

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Jethro Tull  posted on  2007-01-30   8:06:15 ET  (8 images) Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#128. To: Jethro Tull (#127)

those advertisers might have those objects on there for free.

Galatians 3:29 And if ye [be] Christ's, then are ye Abraham's seed, and heirs according to the promise.

Red Jones  posted on  2007-01-30   8:07:57 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#129. To: Red Jones (#128) (Edited)

That's true Red, but the question is how did they learn of the website if they weren't contacted? Are we to believe they simply plucked two businesses randomly and placed them on a website under construction? For all these businesses know the “future podcasts” could be from the Jim Jones archive of Motivational Speeches.

Jethro Tull  posted on  2007-01-30   8:13:03 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#130. To: Red Jones, ALL TRUTH SEEKERS and TALK LISTENERS (#122) (Edited)

as he is the talented one.

people the world over trust Alex Jones.

I had never really considered Alex Jones very talented compared to other talk radio hosts, I listened for content, current legal changes, some of Alex's guests and I personally like to hear what the callers from around the country might have to say about events in their areas. [Kinda like canaries in the coal mine].

Sometimes I have to shut him off because he starts screaming, crying or gets too abusive with callers or goes on one of those more and more frequent self- aggrandizing messianic rants portraying himself as the savior and then denying it.

I know that Alex has done a lot to awaken the public to the very evil police state encircling America and the world. That's what makes it difficult to be critical of him. I have purchased "ALL" of his videos and redistributed them to everyone in my area because I want to help make others aware of our situation. I think he's worked very hard to build a network of like minded people that help keep him abreast of local events throughout the country. He and his program have been an important part of my daily life for quite awhile now so I never thought I'd be saying what I'm about to say.

Alex is the flagship program for GCN and the best single program on the alternative radio scene. The only other programs on GCN worth listening to are Jack Blood's "Deadline Live" (which I think is more geared towards teenagers and gang-bangers than adults) and the Power Hour with Dave and Joyce. Most other programming on GCN is meaningless drivel at best or leftist propaganda featuring Barry Lynn or some other communist. (IMHO)

GCN has probably lost some listeners to RBN simply because RBN has offered superior programming on a 24hour/day 7 days a week basis. Again, this is my opinion. RBN has been fighting for its survival since day one and occasionally John Stadtmiller has had to literally beg for assistance to maintain the network, and yet because of the programming RBN has been steadily building an audience less concerned about flashy hosts than about truth and freedom. RBN offers at least 20 hours/day of this message compared to 8 hours/day at best from GCN.

These past couple of weeks have been difficult for people that have supported both networks and their respective hosts because of a situation that developed in Austin, Texas where both Alex Jones and John Stadtmiller are located. It seems to me that Alex Jones has determined that "this town ain't big enough for the two of us" attitude, and has actually conspired with Ted Anderson of GCN/Midas Resources, Jack Blood, Danny Romero (RBN Webmaster) and Wes Perkins (RBN IP/Server Provider under contract) and the micro-broadcasting Radio Free Austin along with several other lesser players at RBN, to makeover/takeover RBN by attacking it from within and then remolding it into a new network.

What the people named above have attempted to do, in my opinion, is to control alternative talk by taking away access to RBN and delivering a substitute determined by them that would have included some of RBN's features. Kinda like replacing your significant other with a rubber blow up doll.

The worst part for me in all of this was totally losing respect for Alex Jones and Jack Blood. Jones for becoming Ted Anderson's lackie and Jack Blood for becoming Alex's toady and waterboy. I may have been wrong about Alex all along, I don't know now. I'm not arguing about the information he brought to the public, but about him personally. I kind of understand Jack's position since Alex is his GCN handler/mentor and brought him to GCN. (By the way, for all of the carpetbagger propaganda Alex spews, Jack Blood (AKA John Clayton) is a "carpetbagger". Alex has taken over Jack's program on numerous occasions either for self promotion or ranting about something when he's had a little too much "coffee". I digress ...

What took place on Monday the 29th of January 2007 on both Alex's program and Jack's program had a more negative impact on me than any other tasteless event I had encountered in 25 years in the "patriot" movement. I'm sorry to drone on and on but I think it's important for me to say what I see to be very destructive to our freedom of hearing and freedom of speech.

If GCN offered free archives like RBN does you could easily refer back to the 1st hour of Alex Jones' program on Monday. He went to great lengths to portray himself as our savior, and let the audience know about his supreme sacrifice, overwork etc. Then he spent 2 hours discussing the trans-Texas corridor, an important subject, not taking any calls until the last 30 minutes. Then he lambasted John Stadtmiller for 30 minutes solid taking 4 calls that sounded like shills. I compared what he was doing to what happens on mainstream talk radio, maybe I'm wrong, but that's the way it appeared to me.

He made a variety of comments about Wes Perkins who actually is a contract vendor that had done work for both Stadtmiller and Jones. He made it sound like Stadtmiller had held Wes hostage against his will for 2.5 years, and abused him terribly. I can't honestly say what happened but Mr. Perkins is an adult with perogatives like any of us. It was stated that he owned the domain name for http://rbnlive.com and http://rbnlive.net. He may have had to obtain these to set up the network but I'm pretty sure that RBN paid for them and their maintenance. An earlier post on this thread indicates that Wes Perkins had been forced to return domain names to a company wherein he'd originally secured them and then later tried to sell them to the company for a seemingly inflated price. Long story short it went to a hearing and Perkins was forced to relinquish the domain name. All I really want to point out is that sometimes things aren't what they appear to be. When was the last time you secured an attorney for a contract/vendor doing some work for you ... like Alex says he did for Perkins ?

Not satisfied to villify John Stadmiller for a solid 30 minutes on his own program, Alex invaded Jack Blood's show. (I had predicted this to my friend Nancy during Alex's program knowing he couldn't resist). Jack, like a good little flunky allowed Alex to run the next 1.5 hours of his show so that they could hold John Stadtmiller down and kick his ass, knowing that John's ability to speak in his own defense was very limited. It was a mugging, the very thing that Alex is always saying he hates. The two of them were bullying John Stadtmiller, water boarding him, holding his head under the airwaves for 90 minutes, with an occasional commercial break to announce Ted Anderson's (GCN/Midas Resources) inflated gold prices.

Well, I don't like bullies either. I especially don't like them when they are attempting to impose themselves on me and what I choose to listen to. So, Alex Jones, Jack Blood and the rest of the scumbags that tried to kill RBN and pick its bones like vultures sweeping in for the kill, will have to do without me. This will probably cost me a little since I know Stadtmiller is in a fight with guys that have access to more money and attorneys.

I am truly disappointed as I'm sure many others are as well. I appreciate this forum because I would probably explode if I didn't say something to somebody even if no one is listening. One last thing.

No other talk radio outlet that I know of allows a fair and balanced discussion relative to the disproportionate amount of influence wielded by the zionazis. I personally think that Alex is a gatekeeper in this one area. I never said anything because I know the danger incurred by anyone willing to tell the facts relative to this unbelieveable condition worldwide. I don't blame Alex for refusing to talk about it much, I blame him for trying to steal the only forum available on talk radio to keep them from discussing zionism and its impact on our society.

Finally, anyone that's been on this forum for any length of time can search previous posts of mine to see that I have always supported Alex Jones and Jack Blood when they were maligned. Every single time I had stood with them until yesterday, when I was an "ear-witness" to a merciless gang attack and robbery attempt in a back alley. It's really hard to describe the feeling I had but I felt I needed a shower, and I guess this rant is it.

Don't think I don't find any fault with John Stadtmiller because I do. He jeopardized the network that many of us contribute to by allowing himself to be cajoled into an on-air pissing contest of egos with Alex Jones. Jones is smart and Stadtmiller is emotional. Just shut up John, your callers will see through the self-promotion and treachery, and they'll probably call in a talk their heads off about it when they see it.

Hang in there John Stadtmiller, people aren't as dumb as Ted Anderson thinks they are, and even sometimes in spite of yourself you still have supporters.

“The First Highest Masonic Council was, as we have already said, formed on 31st May 1801 in Charleston, 33 degrees northern latitude, under the chairmanship of the Jew Isaac Long, who was made inspector general by the Jew Moses Cohen, and who had received his degree from Hyes, from Franken, and the Jew Morin.”

noone222  posted on  2007-01-30   8:46:57 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#131. To: Jethro Tull (#127)

Nice try at damage control guys, but this fails the stink test. As I understand it this site was built by people who were then employed by RBN. As they were collecting their check from John, this effort to launch was simultaneously launched. Can someone say lack of character and honor?

Absolutely correct JT. And, they might not call it recruitment but they did approach RBN talk hosts and they presented the "self-destruct scenario" ... and then offered placement at the new network "in that event" ...

Stinks ...

“The First Highest Masonic Council was, as we have already said, formed on 31st May 1801 in Charleston, 33 degrees northern latitude, under the chairmanship of the Jew Isaac Long, who was made inspector general by the Jew Moses Cohen, and who had received his degree from Hyes, from Franken, and the Jew Morin.”

noone222  posted on  2007-01-30   8:56:45 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#132. To: noone222 (#131)

Well as of this AM Wes AKA Paul Martin has now pulled Republic Trading Group's domain for those who log in for for the morning update I have restored my old domain http://www.EaglesUp.com

robnoel  posted on  2007-01-30   9:13:57 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#133. To: robnoel (#132)

Is this an effort at hardball Robie ?

“The First Highest Masonic Council was, as we have already said, formed on 31st May 1801 in Charleston, 33 degrees northern latitude, under the chairmanship of the Jew Isaac Long, who was made inspector general by the Jew Moses Cohen, and who had received his degree from Hyes, from Franken, and the Jew Morin.”

noone222  posted on  2007-01-30   9:17:32 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#134. To: robnoel (#132)

Punishment for refusing to join the Anderson/Trudeau media cabal? What low lives they are. But look at the bright side, Robby. There was no way anything could have grown and become successful with rot like that living inside. The short-term pain will be offset by long term gain.

Also, on a side note, will someone please tell the well meaning "patriots" out there that Ron Paul has NO chance of securing the Republican presidential nomination, never mind becoming our next president. It’s laughable when you click on the RP link that leads to AJ’s prison planet, he has a letter that ends, “We must elect Ron Paul.” On the same page is a video for sale detailing election fraud. Please. Any precious dollars folks planned to send him would be better served if they go to RBN.

Jethro Tull  posted on  2007-01-30   9:28:06 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#135. To: Jethro Tull, noone222 (#134)

There was no way anything could have grown and become successful with rot like that living inside. The short-term pain will be offset by long term gain.

well said. as noone said, this is painful as i have been friends with and respected and supported both morally and financially everyone involved in this.

christine  posted on  2007-01-30   9:34:43 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#136. To: Jethro Tull (#127)

Checking on the source code this AM of WTPRN interesting to note that Paul Martin AKA Wes has also taken all references to Gold from the meta generator...which leads me to conclude that all reference to Midas and Ted Anderson have been removed rather quickly....what are they afraid of ...I can tell you this RTG was causing Midas big problems because our prices are 30% below that of Midas...RTG unlike Midas does not rip off it's clients

robnoel  posted on  2007-01-30   9:45:54 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#137. To: noone222, christine, Jethro Tull (#130)

Don't think I don't find any fault with John Stadtmiller because I do. He jeopardized the network that many of us contribute to by allowing himself to be cajoled into an on-air pissing contest of egos with Alex Jones.

"allowed himself to be cajoled"?

Please. I think you minimize the extent of malicious agression on JS's part towards AJ (as a personal and professional rival) and GCN (as RBN's main competitor).

It was JS and RBN that repeatedly attacked and slandered AJ by name and on the air. In the face of this, AJ, until this last month, has been restrained in his responses, never mentioning JS or RBN by name on the air and never getting personal. Until JS's outrageous on air drug-use charge against Jones last month, that is. That bit of slander threatened AJ and his family with an unjustified witchhunt by the state. That is serious business. It cannot be minimized or condoned. I can understand anyone "going nuclear" in the face of such a personal threat.

One thing is crystal clear here. JS's behavior has made him enemies. He has alienated his staff and a former friend and rival. But for the alienation of his staff, GCN's rather agressive takeover attempt would not have been possible. But for his persistant attacks and slander against AJ, it would not have been necessary.

I have yet to hear JS's self defense, but on its face everything that has befallen himself and RBN appears to be the inevitable bad fruit of the poisonous tree he himself has cultivated all too well.

The jury is still out on all this, of course, but at this point it appears to me that JS and RBN played a very dangerous game with a personal rival and competitor network and lost. That's the risk he took when he went down that road, burning friendships and bridges along the way. I have a hard time feeling sorry for him, frankly.

I just hope the great programing on RBN finds a new home and that its good work heretofore has not been entirely in vain.

Check out my blog, America, the Bushieful.

Arator  posted on  2007-01-30   9:51:46 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#138. To: christine. everyone here (#135)

well said. as noone said, this is painful as i have been friends with and respected and supported both morally and financially everyone involved in this.

It makes me angry with everyone involved in this senseless, pointless, self-destructive mess.

Dr.Ron Paul for President

Lod  posted on  2007-01-30   9:52:44 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#139. To: noone222 (#131)

sounds like the company Alex works for is a bit predatory. and this is towards their only real competitor in this little market segment. I kind of think it's odd they're both in Austin. I've only listened to both GCN & RBN a little bit, but as I remember there's some christian type talk host on the GCN network that is pro-bush or at least he was last time I listened to him, I kind of think that's odd. and look how RBN was able to get a better all-around lineup that the patriot community likes. That's odd. GCN has better resources, they would be able to get a better over-all lineup if they wanted. and look how RBN does that archiving thing which is very useful while GCN charges.

I wonder how much money GCN's spent trying to shut down RBN? aparently a very sophistocated effort. This is how big media corners its markets. This is not how patriot-type people are supposed to behave.

In my humble opinion it all adds up to red flags red flags concerning Alex Jones himself. when they use a lot of resources to corner the market you should ask why they're doing that. We should notice that the people who rule us, they work very hard to corner media markets. So when Jones does it, then this is a red-flag.

I've only seen some of Jones' movies, but they seem to have a dark hollywood horror-show edge to them, so does his web-site, this isn't necessarilly the best way to inform people or to win friends & influence people. You notice how Jones is always encouraging others to start web sites and do what he's doing, but look - he's helping to shut down a competitor? Consider Rush Limbaugh who once upon a time was a critic of the Bush's. A media personality is raised up by saying what we are sympathetic too and then his message changes.

and you know not all the media personalities who work for the people who rule us are pro-Bush. Some are anti-bush, but incompetent about being so.

Jones is a pretty emotional guy, look how fat he got in 10 years' time.

I'd say at a minimum the movement would be sooo much better off with a competitor like RBN that gives good opportunity to other talk-show hosts the patriot community likes and archives its work for free & easy access to everyone. I don't believe Jones & Co. don't make a lot of money. I remember hearing him say CNN offerred him one million dollar salary. He used to work for CNN. Did John Stadtmiller work for CNN? Someone that was raised up by the mainstream media like that I wonder about.

Galatians 3:29 And if ye [be] Christ's, then are ye Abraham's seed, and heirs according to the promise.

Red Jones  posted on  2007-01-30   9:59:09 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#140. To: Arator (#137)

The jury is still out on all this, of course, but at this point it appears to me that JS and RBN played a very dangerous game with a personal rival and competitor network and lost. That's the risk he took when he went down that road, burning friendships and bridges along the way. I have a hard time feeling sorry for him, frankly.

I just hope the great programing on RBN finds a new home and that its good work heretofore has not been entirely in vain.

Agree.

Dr.Ron Paul for President

Lod  posted on  2007-01-30   10:00:13 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#141. To: Red Jones (#139)

The AJ we're discussing never worked for CNN, and I don't believe that JS has ever worked for CNN, either.

Dr.Ron Paul for President

Lod  posted on  2007-01-30   10:03:50 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#142. To: lodwick (#141)

I could be wrong, but I believe that Alex Jones used to have his own show on CNN. It was brief. According to Jones they offerred him one million per year to stay, but he was intent on quiting because he didn't want censorship.

Galatians 3:29 And if ye [be] Christ's, then are ye Abraham's seed, and heirs according to the promise.

Red Jones  posted on  2007-01-30   10:07:26 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#143. To: Arator (#137)

I just hope the great programing on RBN finds a new home and that its good work heretofore has not been entirely in vain.

Hope in one hand and shit in the other ... then see which one fills first.

Your discernment is pretty lopsided. Both sides have been acting immaturely by airing their dirty laundry and subjecting their listeners to it. Texans are supposed to be "gun-slingers" not "mud-slingers".

Allegedly, John said things about Alex's hyperventilating drug dealer relationship, and Alex alleged spousal and dog abuse, weapons brandishing, snitching etc., ad nauseum. My mom would have whipped both their asses and sent them to their rooms.

In the end the determination on the part of the GCN elements involved were intended to manipulate what we listeners are "allowed" by Ted Anderson to hear. It's just too bad that Alex and Jack had to lower themselves into the cess pool of bully-shit they did on Monday in order to please their master.

Arator, you always take the zionist control position, why ?

“The First Highest Masonic Council was, as we have already said, formed on 31st May 1801 in Charleston, 33 degrees northern latitude, under the chairmanship of the Jew Isaac Long, who was made inspector general by the Jew Moses Cohen, and who had received his degree from Hyes, from Franken, and the Jew Morin.”

noone222  posted on  2007-01-30   10:09:14 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#144. To: lodwick (#140) (Edited)

I just hope the great programing on RBN finds a new home and that its good work heretofore has not been entirely in vain.

Agree

Not so fast Lodwick you so agreeable and confrontationally challenged little loving fuzz-ball. The "new" network being contemplated by the thugs in the alley would be very selective regarding trans-network hosts.

This selection would be controlled by Ted Anderson. Hosts that tow the line especially with respect to zionism would certainly be given preference. Just listen to GCN and understand that while they do much good they avoid certain subjects that are not left ignored on RBN.

Edit: By the way Loddy I'm not trying to be an asshole here, but sometimes I come off that way ... like another guy we all know.

“The First Highest Masonic Council was, as we have already said, formed on 31st May 1801 in Charleston, 33 degrees northern latitude, under the chairmanship of the Jew Isaac Long, who was made inspector general by the Jew Moses Cohen, and who had received his degree from Hyes, from Franken, and the Jew Morin.”

noone222  posted on  2007-01-30   10:15:53 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#145. To: Red Jones (#142)

I could be wrong, but I believe that Alex Jones used to have his own show on CNN.

I could be wrong also, but I know that when ClearChannel bought the local AM station where Alex had a show back in the early '90's, he was fired because he wouldn't shut-up.

Dr.Ron Paul for President

Lod  posted on  2007-01-30   10:18:29 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#146. To: noone222 (#144)

it's not good to let one company control both competitors in a market. If Ted Anderson wanted a new outlet he could've created one instead of thumping his competitor and trying to move his talent to a new company.

Galatians 3:29 And if ye [be] Christ's, then are ye Abraham's seed, and heirs according to the promise.

Red Jones  posted on  2007-01-30   10:19:26 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#147. To: lodwick (#145)

I'm sure you're right about that. I know Alex' show has been dropped by many radio stations because of things he's said. I still think that when alex was prior to age 25 he did have his own weekly half hour show on CNN for a brief period. I never saw him on it, but I saw people at freerepublic comment on it and I heard Alex talk about it even.

Galatians 3:29 And if ye [be] Christ's, then are ye Abraham's seed, and heirs according to the promise.

Red Jones  posted on  2007-01-30   10:21:33 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#148. To: noone222 (#130)

http://KCAARadio.com, a station in CA, might have the archive of alex's shows. I know they have podcasts available of most of the shows they air.

Artisan  posted on  2007-01-30   10:24:57 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#149. To: Red Jones (#147)

I still think that when alex was prior to age 25 he did have his own weekly half hour show on CNN for a brief period. I never saw him on it, but I saw people at freerepublic comment on it and I heard Alex talk about it even.

That's what I get for not watching the tellie...

Dr.Ron Paul for President

Lod  posted on  2007-01-30   10:25:26 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#150. To: Artisan, Christine (#148)

To: noone222 http://KCAARadio.com, a station in CA, might have the archive of alex's shows. I know they have podcasts available of most of the shows they air.

You might be interested in this radio station. When I attempted to link up it stated ... not available. [Maybe it can be accessed another way.]

“The First Highest Masonic Council was, as we have already said, formed on 31st May 1801 in Charleston, 33 degrees northern latitude, under the chairmanship of the Jew Isaac Long, who was made inspector general by the Jew Moses Cohen, and who had received his degree from Hyes, from Franken, and the Jew Morin.”

noone222  posted on  2007-01-30   10:33:19 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#151. To: noone222 (#150)

http://kcaaradio.com

This worked for me. I think that link added a ','.

The moral and constitutional obligations of our representatives in Washington are to protect our liberty, not coddle the world, precipitating no-win wars, while bringing bankruptcy and economic turmoil to our people. ~Ron Paul

robin  posted on  2007-01-30   10:35:20 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#152. To: Red Jones (#139)

Good points to consider! I think all concerned individuals should focus on sharing information, not focus on 'the cult of personality' and money-making back-stabbing 'intrigue', which is all this garbage seems to be. I think by now we can all study, research & discuss the news without any of these self-apponted clown ''leaders'' 'leading' us.

Artisan  posted on  2007-01-30   10:35:33 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#153. To: robin (#151)

Thanks ... I'm a clutz !

“The First Highest Masonic Council was, as we have already said, formed on 31st May 1801 in Charleston, 33 degrees northern latitude, under the chairmanship of the Jew Isaac Long, who was made inspector general by the Jew Moses Cohen, and who had received his degree from Hyes, from Franken, and the Jew Morin.”

noone222  posted on  2007-01-30   10:39:01 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#154. To: noone222 (#153)

No one's fault, sometimes the usually handy auto-link just grabs too many characters.

The moral and constitutional obligations of our representatives in Washington are to protect our liberty, not coddle the world, precipitating no-win wars, while bringing bankruptcy and economic turmoil to our people. ~Ron Paul

robin  posted on  2007-01-30   10:43:07 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#155. To: Red Jones (#146)

it's not good to let one company control both competitors in a market.

Ha hahahaha ... like the mis-named "TWO PARTY SYSTEM" ...

Me and Lodwick agree with ya !!! (snicker).

“The First Highest Masonic Council was, as we have already said, formed on 31st May 1801 in Charleston, 33 degrees northern latitude, under the chairmanship of the Jew Isaac Long, who was made inspector general by the Jew Moses Cohen, and who had received his degree from Hyes, from Franken, and the Jew Morin.”

noone222  posted on  2007-01-30   10:49:01 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#156. To: Arator (#137)

Arator, I agree that JS shouldn’t have spouted off about drugs/AJ. That said, IMO it wouldn’t have mattered if JS never went on-air with the charge. This scheme to destroy RBN was in progress and it also has a template. Anderson has been implicated in the exact same thing some years back. Scroll up this thread and take a look at what I came across.

Also why in the world would GCN give a turd like Barry Lynn a home? The guy is a traitor.

Jethro Tull  posted on  2007-01-30   10:54:44 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#157. To: Jethro Tull (#156)

Also why in the world would GCN give a turd like Barry Lynn a home? The guy is a traitor.

Birds of a (zionist) feather flock together ! Point well taken.

“The First Highest Masonic Council was, as we have already said, formed on 31st May 1801 in Charleston, 33 degrees northern latitude, under the chairmanship of the Jew Isaac Long, who was made inspector general by the Jew Moses Cohen, and who had received his degree from Hyes, from Franken, and the Jew Morin.”

noone222  posted on  2007-01-30   10:56:21 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#158. To: noone222 (#150)

I found some KCAA archived podcasts but not of ALex's most recent shows. They keep changing his time around ever since he's been there.

http://yardtv.gotdns.com/kcaa-podcasts/alex/

Here is another good host at KCAA from GCN

http://yardtv.gotdns.com/kcaa-podcasts/welch/

Artisan  posted on  2007-01-30   10:59:52 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#159. To: noone222. everyone here (#157)

The PowerHour folks just gave a good segment lamenting RBN's problems and the in-fighting going on in the "truth" movement in general.

Dr.Ron Paul for President

Lod  posted on  2007-01-30   11:03:01 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#160. To: Jethro Tull (#134)

will someone please tell the well meaning "patriots" out there that Ron Paul has NO chance of securing the Republican presidential nomination,

you're right about that.

as long as the mainstream media simply doesn't mention his name (and they don't) then he will at best no matter how well he does in his campaign get 1% of vote. and if he really gets 3% or 5%, the voting machines will only count it as 1%.

the media builds movements & loyalties in America. and as long as Paul is excluded, he is a nobody in the minds of probably 3/4's of Americans.

Galatians 3:29 And if ye [be] Christ's, then are ye Abraham's seed, and heirs according to the promise.

Red Jones  posted on  2007-01-30   12:50:53 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#161. To: rack42 (#124)

upload a 13 Meg mp3 for other's download, let me know.

Megaupload.com

iirc, you can use it anon' or email yourself the download link.
I've used it before and had the link emailed to a web accnt. to pass along.

hammerdown  posted on  2007-01-30   13:16:23 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#162. To: christine (#110)

I hope so 'cuz I didn't get to hear it yesterday and there was no replay of it on the sat-feed after Franks show.

hammerdown  posted on  2007-01-30   13:27:35 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#163. To: hammerdown, robnoel, Jethro Tull, lodwick, orangedog, noone222, HOUNDDAWG, robin, Zipporah, artisan, Arator, ALL (#162) (Edited)

woohoo! RBN has picked up two new radio stations, the internet #s are almost back to normal, and one of their advertisers dumped a $100,000 contract on them!

32k) http://216.240.133.177:2005/listen .pls

christine  posted on  2007-01-30   17:32:56 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#164. To: christine (#163)

What about the Mark Kornky thing?

"You can not save the Constitution by destroying it."

Itisa1mosttoolate  posted on  2007-01-30   17:45:05 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#165. To: christine (#163)

Cool! Any word on when they'll be able to start posting mp3's to download again?

"First I'm gonna bother everybody I meet, and then I'll probably go home and get drunk."

orangedog  posted on  2007-01-30   18:30:22 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#166. To: orangedog (#165)

not yet. i need to call Chris, his engineer, and see if i can obtain one for John's rebuttal show yesterday to post here.

christine  posted on  2007-01-30   18:32:20 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#167. To: christine (#163)

Thats great ..you never where things will lead..

Zipporah  posted on  2007-01-30   18:37:34 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#168. To: Red Jones (#160)

the media builds movements & loyalties in America. and as long as Paul is excluded, he is a nobody in the minds of probably 3/4's of Americans.

You're right, but I'm still going to "waste my vote" on him.

Remember...G-d saved more animals than people on the ark. www.siameserescue.org

who knows what evil  posted on  2007-01-30   18:39:08 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#169. To: christine (#163)

3 hosts have left. Burmas and Dan A.. Who is the third?

Mark

"I was real close to Building 7 when it fell down... That didn't sound like just a building falling down to me while I was running away from it. There's a lot of eyewitness testimony down there of hearing explosions. [..] and the whole time you're hearing "boom, boom, boom, boom, boom." I think I know an explosion when I hear it... — Former NYC Police Officer and 9/11 Rescue Worker Craig Bartmer

Kamala  posted on  2007-01-30   18:54:56 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#170. To: noone222 (#157)

Another question is. Mike Rivero is very anti zion and Israel.

I haven't heard him come down hard yet on Israel on his show at GCN on SAT.

Mark

"I was real close to Building 7 when it fell down... That didn't sound like just a building falling down to me while I was running away from it. There's a lot of eyewitness testimony down there of hearing explosions. [..] and the whole time you're hearing "boom, boom, boom, boom, boom." I think I know an explosion when I hear it... — Former NYC Police Officer and 9/11 Rescue Worker Craig Bartmer

Kamala  posted on  2007-01-30   18:58:06 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#171. To: who knows what evil (#168)

I don't blame you. I need to 'waste my vote' on ron paul as well

Galatians 3:29 And if ye [be] Christ's, then are ye Abraham's seed, and heirs according to the promise.

Red Jones  posted on  2007-01-30   22:03:07 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#172. To: Kamala (#169)

hmmmmm....i don't know who the third one is

christine  posted on  2007-01-30   23:29:01 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#173. To: Give Me Liberty (#172)

here ya go, Clint

christine  posted on  2007-01-30   23:30:43 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#174. To: christine (#166) (Edited)

01/29/07 hr. 2 clip here

hammerdown  posted on  2007-01-31   3:37:17 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#175. To: christine (#163)

wow, that'll help get things going again.
Found a 16k stream also: http://216.240.133.177:2007

hammerdown  posted on  2007-01-31   4:13:21 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#176. To: christine, Kamala (#172)

Fetzer/Barrett are doing another show on gcn. guess we'll find out when the site comes back, or if Kevin's show isn't on saturday.

hammerdown  posted on  2007-01-31   4:20:39 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#177. To: Itisa1mosttoolate (#164)

47:30 of the clip at #174, if you think Jack Otto's word is good enough.
I think we covered it pretty thoroughly back on fr when it happened, and I don't recall Don or Tony saying anything about John on Marks show after it happened. the only person that I remember being tagged as a "fed" was Tom Wayne.

hammerdown  posted on  2007-01-31   5:10:09 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#178. To: hammerdown (#177)

What "clip" are you talking about??????????????

"You can not save the Constitution by destroying it."

Itisa1mosttoolate  posted on  2007-01-31   5:32:03 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#179. To: hammerdown, Arator, Give Me Liberty, wake up (#174)

ping to the Stadtmiller rebuttal hammerdown posted

christine  posted on  2007-01-31   9:06:11 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#180. To: Kamala (#169)

3 hosts have left. Burmas and Dan A.. Who is the third?

Dr Nick Begich

christine  posted on  2007-01-31   16:22:11 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


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