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Title: John Stadtmiller terrorizes RBN workers - (Menaces workers with firearm at staff meeting, and threatens to send police to workers' home)
Source: RBN
URL Source: http://rbnlive.com/
Published: Jan 28, 2007
Author: Wes Perkins
Post Date: 2007-01-28 10:43:54 by Bill D Berger
Keywords: None
Views: 3194
Comments: 180

I, Wes Perkins, am issuing this public affidavit as a warning to the public and as a protection to myself and my family from an individual who rules by intimidation, threats and fear.

"Don't listen to those crazy people, there's no danger to you here" retorts John and Sandra Stadtmiller as they try to explain away an incident in the summer of 2006 where John brings a gun into a staff meeting. Four eyewitnesses at the meeting verified that John brought a gun into a staff meeting after a short break, and set the gun down on the table, giving it a slight spin as he put it down. "I was startled to see the gun, and didn't know his intentions" states one of the eye witnesses. John and Sandra even blame the publicity of this event on, and continue to harass, a former employee who quit shortly after the incident, even though that employee wasn't even present in the room when this happened. That employee was recently told, "you better lay low". On a second occasion another eyewitness to a separate incident observed John showing off his handgun, and he accidentally dropped it. "That's how people get shot", said the witness.

Months earlier I was at a Denny's restaurant and two separate people who've had dealings with Stadtmiller mentioned about how Stadtmiller out of the blue had pointed firearms at them telling them that they had better do as he says. Those two people are Alex Jones and Keith Perry. Alex was telling his gun story while eating his eggs when Keith interjected that John had done the same thing to him.

Alex's story, which he recounted on Jack Blood's radio show on January 11, 2007; "I was at this guy's house (Stadtmiller's), and I'm sitting there doing a radio show with him, and all of a sudden I look up and he's pointing a Walter PPK handgun at me, and he has this maniacal look of pleasure, and I jumped up and said 'you'd better put that down - you've got a problem and I'm not going to be around you anymore'. And so I just went away."

Alex has also told me about John admitting to having a hand in getting Mark Koernke thrown into prison, as well as being involved in the breakup of the Michigan Militia. On two separate occasions while Alex was co-hosting the Saturday show with Stadtmiller, John told Alex not to defend Koernke - "because he's bad. He messed with me and you saw what happened to him. I'm glad he's in prison." Alex Jones had heard this from credible people in Michigan, but had never believed it until hearing it directly from Stadtmiller.

Alex told me about a situation at a gun show where John and Sandra tried to get Alex to do a straw man gun purchase for John, which Alex refused because it was against the law and the whole thing had a sting feel to it - there was a BATF guy drifting within a few feet from Alex when John asked Alex to purchase the gun for him. When Alex refused, John turned red with anger, and then suddenly became calm, whipped out his driver license, then bought the same handgun that John later pointed at Jones. Stadtmiller begged Alex to go to the gun show with him, and the whole thing had a feeling of a setup.

Just this past week Alex Jones told me how Stadtmiller called him on his cell phone after 1 am, sounding drunk or drugged, and Stadtmiller told him "when I pointed that gun at you, you were little and scared". Stadtmiller also said that he would like to beat Alex's wife.

Back to my situation.

I'm finally getting fed up with everything that I'm witnessing at RBN and want to put some distance between them and myself. Stadtmiller wants me to "turn over all of my technology and property" that manages the RBN archives. I'm telling them that they need to replace it with their own technology, so that they fully understand and can manage it properly. My technology is intellectual property and would take too much time to train others to manage.

Also, another thing I did was move out of a house that I was renting from someone who I learned through eyewitnesses was passing personal information about me to John.

Threatening to snitch out a patriot:

Now, I have a couple of outstanding warrants due to my protesting the National ID card a few years ago, and getting thrown into jail. I was charged with failure to show ID, then with a stacked charge on top of that of Interference with Public Duty. The underlying charge of failure to ID was dismissed, but the stacked charge was never dismissed even though it no longer had the underlying charge to support it. After many court appearances, and after realizing how the courts were nothing but a railroad job, I finally missed a court date and hence the warrants.

This week I have confirmation from a couple of RBN staffers who have overheard John and my former landlord discussing how they know where I moved to and will call the police on my warrants if I don't cooperate. Others warned me that John Stadtmiller was a snitch - now I have confirmation of the fact.

I'm not going to live in terror; it's time that someone stands up to the bully and his henchmen.

I'm through dealing with this evil man, John Stadtmiller. I'm also through dealing with his right-hand man, whom I also once believed to be an upstanding patriot. I'm ashamed to have ever gotten involved with these evil creatures, and am sorry for helping Stadtmiller succeed to the extent where he has caused this community so much pain and suffering.

Please distribute this story far and wide so that it may always be accessible to future would-be associates and/or supporters of John Stadtmiller, and may they right now be warned. Run...run away really fast!

A little more personal history:

I woke up to the new world order corruption in our society in 2000 listening to local patriot radio. In January 2004, talk show host John Stadtmiller was kicked off of the Genesis Communications Network.

Days later, I offered to help get Stadtmiller back on the air on shortwave and some local patriot radio outlets. Over the following months we produced Stadtmiller's daily two-hour radio show out of his home using a temporary makeshift studio, and during this time Stadtmiller setup his new radio network RBN (the Republic Broadcasting Network).

I brought a fair amount of my own computer equipment into the mix to assist in setting up RBN quickly - at no charge to RBN. To date I have not been compensated for the hardware that still resides at RBN. The equipment amounted to between $2,000 and $4,000 in value at the time of install. I had let Stadtmiller know from the start that I am a contractor and I own my own materials. All of my equipment at RBN has my labels on it, and now the locks have reportedly been changed to prevent me from having access to my equipment.

After the launch of RBN in June of 2004, I wrote the software to automate and manage RBN's archives and streaming, which has brought RBN to the forefront of the patriot movement as the only network with such a complete and high-quality streaming and archiving system. To date I have continued to provide this service to RBN. My system has allowed RBN to provide an incredible archive of information for a relatively low cost - only a small fraction of RBN's shortwave budget.

I have also been contracted to do board-op duties producing live radio shows on the network from the beginning. This gave me an up-close, insider look at the personalities behind the microphones at RBN. My alias for on-air purposes was "Producer Paul Martin". As producer I screened thousands of calls and produced thousands of hours of shows on RBN.

During my tenure at RBN I have witnessed dozens of temper tantrums by John Stadtmiller, including, but not limited to: shouting and hanging up on people from listeners to vendors to fellow broadcasters, kicking trash cans across the office, slamming doors, racing away on his Harley motorcycle and kicking his wife's dog in the throat. I have noticed that from day one producing his show he often spoke in a derogatory manner on his radio show about GCN (Genesis Communications Network), some of GCN's advertisers and sponsors and many of GCN's talk show hosts. I have personally witnessed this hundreds of times, and have always felt it was in poor taste, was divisive and had no place on the air. On a couple of occasions he even said on air that GCN was going under. I have also witnessed many occasions where the local patriot outlets would make programming decisions that were not always favorable to RBN, and Stadtmiller would erupt into a fit of rage against them, sometimes taking his complaints to the airwaves - insulting the management of those outlets on the air. I've always felt this was short-sided of Stadtmiller, as the local patriot outlets would air RBN's programming, including RBN's commercials, which directly benefited RBN, with no compensation whatsoever being made to the local outlets - they are not-for-profit and are only interested in waking up as many folks as possible to the truths of the dire condition of the nation.

I've come to realize that Stadtmiller is an expert wordsmith. He speaks on his radio show in such a way that folks who don't know him too well will think that he is the father of the patriot movement and that he controls and has founded all of the various radio outlets where his show is heard. He has often done entire shows where he would criticize listeners for not doing enough, usually at times where the finances were tight. I've also witnessed folks coming into the office to donate and would either thank Stadtmiller for airing Alex Jones or thank Stadtmiller for the local patriot outlets, neither of which are associated with Stadtmiller. He would nonetheless accept the money without any correction or clarification whatsoever that those outlets or talk show hosts are not affiliated with his network. I also personally know of folks who have loaned tens of thousands of dollars to RBN and have not been paid back. Stadtmiller for the first couple of years of RBN's existence often wordsmithed on the air about how he founded the GCN network. When finally confronted about this publicly by Alex Jones and by GCN owner Ted Anderson, John modified his language to say that he founded the network that later became GCN. This is still not quite correct, from the multiple sources that I have heard from who have first-hand knowledge of the facts.

There was a disturbing situation involving talk show host Chris Gerner regarding donations. Chris had found a large money donor who was willing to donate $15,000 to RBN solely because Chris was on the network covering Agenda-21 issues. The donor was willing to continue with donations given that Chris remain on the network doing what he always does. At the time the money came in, money was otherwise tight and RBN applied the money to various back bills, but still insisted that Chris personally pay for his own shortwave, disregarding that the donor specifically donated due to Chris. I witnessed similar trends on multiple occasions regarding the shortwave bills. It seemed Stadtmiller would entice new hosts to join without a written contract or specific details being ironed out regarding who would pay for shortwave time. Then if a host became boring to Stadtmiller, he would start billing the host for his shortwave time. If the host otherwise remained a "benefit" to the network, RBN would cover the cost without argument. Chris Gerner ultimately lost interest in doing the show and eventually quit over this issue.

The money-related issues mentioned above may not be so alarming in and of themselves, however, there is no accountability at RBN. RBN operates like a commercial entity in that it airs a full complement of commercials, but also operates as a non-profit and accepts donations. There is no board to oversee the operations, and in my opinion there is way too much overhead there. During startup he turned down a lot of money where folks wanted some sort of oversight over how their money would be managed, and only accepted money with relatively no strings attached. I've witnessed Stadtmiller spending money impulsively on a number of occasions.

In mid-2006 Stadtmiller brought in a fellow to assist in looking at the internal operations at RBN to attempt to flush out the problems and vision-build. During the numerous meetings I had suggested that we need a board of directors to buffer Stadtmiller's impulsive decision-making and provide some accounting oversight over the financial operations. Every time the subject came up Stadtmiller got very fidgety and irritable. The board never materialized and RBN continues to be managed in an impulsive manner.

Stadtmiller, on his Wednesday show, January 10, 2007, came out with a vicious attack piece of lies about Alex Jones. Although he never named Jones, he played Jones' bumper music underneath his rant and used a number of linking phrases that no patriot with any length in the movement would mistake as referring to any other than Alex Jones. John indicated that he had hired a private investigator for the previous 60 days to look into an egomaniacal talk show host, and he even knew who your favorite talk show hosts' drug dealer is. Alex has stated that this is a complete lie and challenges Stadtmiller to produce his proof. While John refers to drug use by Alex, it is actually John who is witnessed doing drugs by talk show host Jack Blood, as stated on Blood's January 11, 2007 show. Incidentally, John also refers to me several times in the hit piece, as the non-loyal staffer.

Mr. John Stadtmiller, I am loyal to the movement. Many in this movement know this, because they know my work and me. I assist many entities technically in their endeavors to wake people up and spread the truth of what's going on in our nation. I'm only loyal to you to the extent that you do good work - beyond that - I have no use for you. With this last hit piece you may have just put your foot in your mouth so deep that it will take the Jaws of Life to extract. You have had many good and talented employees, contractors and talk show hosts come and go through RBN - many of whom were chased away by your pompous, arrogant and demeaning personality. You have reversed the hard work of many good and well-meaning people over the past few years that I have witnessed.

As I've alluded to earlier, I've literally built Stadtmiller's network. I own the domain names http://rbnlive.com and http://rbnlive.net, and I want nothing further to do with a spider's web that is meant to catch well-meaning patriots like flies. As of Friday I requested to be paid by proxy through a trusted co-worker and they refused to hand him my payment. Effective today, Saturday, January 27, 2007, I am disconnecting all of my equipment and services that I own and provide to RBN. I am disconnecting all services that I provide through my equipment that is being held hostage, and I am removing myself from this monster's sphere of influence. I am simply severing all my connections to RBN - as a free man it is my right to not provide services to a user who has terrorized my family and others in the community.

John Stadtmiller I am finished dealing with you - so have a better life, but may God's judgment deal with you accordingly for your wrongdoings.

Lord, help us all, and heal our land and this movement.

Wes Perkins


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I was unable to connect to the RBN Live feed since yesterday, so I went directly to the home page and this is what I found.

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#141. To: Red Jones (#139)

The AJ we're discussing never worked for CNN, and I don't believe that JS has ever worked for CNN, either.

Dr.Ron Paul for President

Lod  posted on  2007-01-30   10:03:50 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#142. To: lodwick (#141)

I could be wrong, but I believe that Alex Jones used to have his own show on CNN. It was brief. According to Jones they offerred him one million per year to stay, but he was intent on quiting because he didn't want censorship.

Galatians 3:29 And if ye [be] Christ's, then are ye Abraham's seed, and heirs according to the promise.

Red Jones  posted on  2007-01-30   10:07:26 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#143. To: Arator (#137)

I just hope the great programing on RBN finds a new home and that its good work heretofore has not been entirely in vain.

Hope in one hand and shit in the other ... then see which one fills first.

Your discernment is pretty lopsided. Both sides have been acting immaturely by airing their dirty laundry and subjecting their listeners to it. Texans are supposed to be "gun-slingers" not "mud-slingers".

Allegedly, John said things about Alex's hyperventilating drug dealer relationship, and Alex alleged spousal and dog abuse, weapons brandishing, snitching etc., ad nauseum. My mom would have whipped both their asses and sent them to their rooms.

In the end the determination on the part of the GCN elements involved were intended to manipulate what we listeners are "allowed" by Ted Anderson to hear. It's just too bad that Alex and Jack had to lower themselves into the cess pool of bully-shit they did on Monday in order to please their master.

Arator, you always take the zionist control position, why ?

“The First Highest Masonic Council was, as we have already said, formed on 31st May 1801 in Charleston, 33 degrees northern latitude, under the chairmanship of the Jew Isaac Long, who was made inspector general by the Jew Moses Cohen, and who had received his degree from Hyes, from Franken, and the Jew Morin.”

noone222  posted on  2007-01-30   10:09:14 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#144. To: lodwick (#140) (Edited)

I just hope the great programing on RBN finds a new home and that its good work heretofore has not been entirely in vain.

Agree

Not so fast Lodwick you so agreeable and confrontationally challenged little loving fuzz-ball. The "new" network being contemplated by the thugs in the alley would be very selective regarding trans-network hosts.

This selection would be controlled by Ted Anderson. Hosts that tow the line especially with respect to zionism would certainly be given preference. Just listen to GCN and understand that while they do much good they avoid certain subjects that are not left ignored on RBN.

Edit: By the way Loddy I'm not trying to be an asshole here, but sometimes I come off that way ... like another guy we all know.

“The First Highest Masonic Council was, as we have already said, formed on 31st May 1801 in Charleston, 33 degrees northern latitude, under the chairmanship of the Jew Isaac Long, who was made inspector general by the Jew Moses Cohen, and who had received his degree from Hyes, from Franken, and the Jew Morin.”

noone222  posted on  2007-01-30   10:15:53 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#145. To: Red Jones (#142)

I could be wrong, but I believe that Alex Jones used to have his own show on CNN.

I could be wrong also, but I know that when ClearChannel bought the local AM station where Alex had a show back in the early '90's, he was fired because he wouldn't shut-up.

Dr.Ron Paul for President

Lod  posted on  2007-01-30   10:18:29 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#146. To: noone222 (#144)

it's not good to let one company control both competitors in a market. If Ted Anderson wanted a new outlet he could've created one instead of thumping his competitor and trying to move his talent to a new company.

Galatians 3:29 And if ye [be] Christ's, then are ye Abraham's seed, and heirs according to the promise.

Red Jones  posted on  2007-01-30   10:19:26 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#147. To: lodwick (#145)

I'm sure you're right about that. I know Alex' show has been dropped by many radio stations because of things he's said. I still think that when alex was prior to age 25 he did have his own weekly half hour show on CNN for a brief period. I never saw him on it, but I saw people at freerepublic comment on it and I heard Alex talk about it even.

Galatians 3:29 And if ye [be] Christ's, then are ye Abraham's seed, and heirs according to the promise.

Red Jones  posted on  2007-01-30   10:21:33 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#148. To: noone222 (#130)

http://KCAARadio.com, a station in CA, might have the archive of alex's shows. I know they have podcasts available of most of the shows they air.

Artisan  posted on  2007-01-30   10:24:57 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#149. To: Red Jones (#147)

I still think that when alex was prior to age 25 he did have his own weekly half hour show on CNN for a brief period. I never saw him on it, but I saw people at freerepublic comment on it and I heard Alex talk about it even.

That's what I get for not watching the tellie...

Dr.Ron Paul for President

Lod  posted on  2007-01-30   10:25:26 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#150. To: Artisan, Christine (#148)

To: noone222 http://KCAARadio.com, a station in CA, might have the archive of alex's shows. I know they have podcasts available of most of the shows they air.

You might be interested in this radio station. When I attempted to link up it stated ... not available. [Maybe it can be accessed another way.]

“The First Highest Masonic Council was, as we have already said, formed on 31st May 1801 in Charleston, 33 degrees northern latitude, under the chairmanship of the Jew Isaac Long, who was made inspector general by the Jew Moses Cohen, and who had received his degree from Hyes, from Franken, and the Jew Morin.”

noone222  posted on  2007-01-30   10:33:19 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#151. To: noone222 (#150)

http://kcaaradio.com

This worked for me. I think that link added a ','.

The moral and constitutional obligations of our representatives in Washington are to protect our liberty, not coddle the world, precipitating no-win wars, while bringing bankruptcy and economic turmoil to our people. ~Ron Paul

robin  posted on  2007-01-30   10:35:20 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#152. To: Red Jones (#139)

Good points to consider! I think all concerned individuals should focus on sharing information, not focus on 'the cult of personality' and money-making back-stabbing 'intrigue', which is all this garbage seems to be. I think by now we can all study, research & discuss the news without any of these self-apponted clown ''leaders'' 'leading' us.

Artisan  posted on  2007-01-30   10:35:33 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#153. To: robin (#151)

Thanks ... I'm a clutz !

“The First Highest Masonic Council was, as we have already said, formed on 31st May 1801 in Charleston, 33 degrees northern latitude, under the chairmanship of the Jew Isaac Long, who was made inspector general by the Jew Moses Cohen, and who had received his degree from Hyes, from Franken, and the Jew Morin.”

noone222  posted on  2007-01-30   10:39:01 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#154. To: noone222 (#153)

No one's fault, sometimes the usually handy auto-link just grabs too many characters.

The moral and constitutional obligations of our representatives in Washington are to protect our liberty, not coddle the world, precipitating no-win wars, while bringing bankruptcy and economic turmoil to our people. ~Ron Paul

robin  posted on  2007-01-30   10:43:07 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#155. To: Red Jones (#146)

it's not good to let one company control both competitors in a market.

Ha hahahaha ... like the mis-named "TWO PARTY SYSTEM" ...

Me and Lodwick agree with ya !!! (snicker).

“The First Highest Masonic Council was, as we have already said, formed on 31st May 1801 in Charleston, 33 degrees northern latitude, under the chairmanship of the Jew Isaac Long, who was made inspector general by the Jew Moses Cohen, and who had received his degree from Hyes, from Franken, and the Jew Morin.”

noone222  posted on  2007-01-30   10:49:01 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#156. To: Arator (#137)

Arator, I agree that JS shouldn’t have spouted off about drugs/AJ. That said, IMO it wouldn’t have mattered if JS never went on-air with the charge. This scheme to destroy RBN was in progress and it also has a template. Anderson has been implicated in the exact same thing some years back. Scroll up this thread and take a look at what I came across.

Also why in the world would GCN give a turd like Barry Lynn a home? The guy is a traitor.

Jethro Tull  posted on  2007-01-30   10:54:44 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#157. To: Jethro Tull (#156)

Also why in the world would GCN give a turd like Barry Lynn a home? The guy is a traitor.

Birds of a (zionist) feather flock together ! Point well taken.

“The First Highest Masonic Council was, as we have already said, formed on 31st May 1801 in Charleston, 33 degrees northern latitude, under the chairmanship of the Jew Isaac Long, who was made inspector general by the Jew Moses Cohen, and who had received his degree from Hyes, from Franken, and the Jew Morin.”

noone222  posted on  2007-01-30   10:56:21 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#158. To: noone222 (#150)

I found some KCAA archived podcasts but not of ALex's most recent shows. They keep changing his time around ever since he's been there.

http://yardtv.gotdns.com/kcaa-podcasts/alex/

Here is another good host at KCAA from GCN

http://yardtv.gotdns.com/kcaa-podcasts/welch/

Artisan  posted on  2007-01-30   10:59:52 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#159. To: noone222. everyone here (#157)

The PowerHour folks just gave a good segment lamenting RBN's problems and the in-fighting going on in the "truth" movement in general.

Dr.Ron Paul for President

Lod  posted on  2007-01-30   11:03:01 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#160. To: Jethro Tull (#134)

will someone please tell the well meaning "patriots" out there that Ron Paul has NO chance of securing the Republican presidential nomination,

you're right about that.

as long as the mainstream media simply doesn't mention his name (and they don't) then he will at best no matter how well he does in his campaign get 1% of vote. and if he really gets 3% or 5%, the voting machines will only count it as 1%.

the media builds movements & loyalties in America. and as long as Paul is excluded, he is a nobody in the minds of probably 3/4's of Americans.

Galatians 3:29 And if ye [be] Christ's, then are ye Abraham's seed, and heirs according to the promise.

Red Jones  posted on  2007-01-30   12:50:53 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#161. To: rack42 (#124)

upload a 13 Meg mp3 for other's download, let me know.

Megaupload.com

iirc, you can use it anon' or email yourself the download link.
I've used it before and had the link emailed to a web accnt. to pass along.

hammerdown  posted on  2007-01-30   13:16:23 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#162. To: christine (#110)

I hope so 'cuz I didn't get to hear it yesterday and there was no replay of it on the sat-feed after Franks show.

hammerdown  posted on  2007-01-30   13:27:35 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#163. To: hammerdown, robnoel, Jethro Tull, lodwick, orangedog, noone222, HOUNDDAWG, robin, Zipporah, artisan, Arator, ALL (#162) (Edited)

woohoo! RBN has picked up two new radio stations, the internet #s are almost back to normal, and one of their advertisers dumped a $100,000 contract on them!

32k) http://216.240.133.177:2005/listen .pls

christine  posted on  2007-01-30   17:32:56 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#164. To: christine (#163)

What about the Mark Kornky thing?

"You can not save the Constitution by destroying it."

Itisa1mosttoolate  posted on  2007-01-30   17:45:05 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#165. To: christine (#163)

Cool! Any word on when they'll be able to start posting mp3's to download again?

"First I'm gonna bother everybody I meet, and then I'll probably go home and get drunk."

orangedog  posted on  2007-01-30   18:30:22 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#166. To: orangedog (#165)

not yet. i need to call Chris, his engineer, and see if i can obtain one for John's rebuttal show yesterday to post here.

christine  posted on  2007-01-30   18:32:20 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#167. To: christine (#163)

Thats great ..you never where things will lead..

Zipporah  posted on  2007-01-30   18:37:34 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#168. To: Red Jones (#160)

the media builds movements & loyalties in America. and as long as Paul is excluded, he is a nobody in the minds of probably 3/4's of Americans.

You're right, but I'm still going to "waste my vote" on him.

Remember...G-d saved more animals than people on the ark. www.siameserescue.org

who knows what evil  posted on  2007-01-30   18:39:08 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#169. To: christine (#163)

3 hosts have left. Burmas and Dan A.. Who is the third?

Mark

"I was real close to Building 7 when it fell down... That didn't sound like just a building falling down to me while I was running away from it. There's a lot of eyewitness testimony down there of hearing explosions. [..] and the whole time you're hearing "boom, boom, boom, boom, boom." I think I know an explosion when I hear it... — Former NYC Police Officer and 9/11 Rescue Worker Craig Bartmer

Kamala  posted on  2007-01-30   18:54:56 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#170. To: noone222 (#157)

Another question is. Mike Rivero is very anti zion and Israel.

I haven't heard him come down hard yet on Israel on his show at GCN on SAT.

Mark

"I was real close to Building 7 when it fell down... That didn't sound like just a building falling down to me while I was running away from it. There's a lot of eyewitness testimony down there of hearing explosions. [..] and the whole time you're hearing "boom, boom, boom, boom, boom." I think I know an explosion when I hear it... — Former NYC Police Officer and 9/11 Rescue Worker Craig Bartmer

Kamala  posted on  2007-01-30   18:58:06 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#171. To: who knows what evil (#168)

I don't blame you. I need to 'waste my vote' on ron paul as well

Galatians 3:29 And if ye [be] Christ's, then are ye Abraham's seed, and heirs according to the promise.

Red Jones  posted on  2007-01-30   22:03:07 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#172. To: Kamala (#169)

hmmmmm....i don't know who the third one is

christine  posted on  2007-01-30   23:29:01 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#173. To: Give Me Liberty (#172)

here ya go, Clint

christine  posted on  2007-01-30   23:30:43 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#174. To: christine (#166) (Edited)

01/29/07 hr. 2 clip here

hammerdown  posted on  2007-01-31   3:37:17 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#175. To: christine (#163)

wow, that'll help get things going again.
Found a 16k stream also: http://216.240.133.177:2007

hammerdown  posted on  2007-01-31   4:13:21 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#176. To: christine, Kamala (#172)

Fetzer/Barrett are doing another show on gcn. guess we'll find out when the site comes back, or if Kevin's show isn't on saturday.

hammerdown  posted on  2007-01-31   4:20:39 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#177. To: Itisa1mosttoolate (#164)

47:30 of the clip at #174, if you think Jack Otto's word is good enough.
I think we covered it pretty thoroughly back on fr when it happened, and I don't recall Don or Tony saying anything about John on Marks show after it happened. the only person that I remember being tagged as a "fed" was Tom Wayne.

hammerdown  posted on  2007-01-31   5:10:09 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#178. To: hammerdown (#177)

What "clip" are you talking about??????????????

"You can not save the Constitution by destroying it."

Itisa1mosttoolate  posted on  2007-01-31   5:32:03 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#179. To: hammerdown, Arator, Give Me Liberty, wake up (#174)

ping to the Stadtmiller rebuttal hammerdown posted

christine  posted on  2007-01-31   9:06:11 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#180. To: Kamala (#169)

3 hosts have left. Burmas and Dan A.. Who is the third?

Dr Nick Begich

christine  posted on  2007-01-31   16:22:11 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


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