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Title: Total Recall: Plamegate
Source: Investors.com
URL Source: http://www.investors.com/editorial/ ... tus=article&id=255050233492189
Published: Jan 30, 2007
Author: Editorial
Post Date: 2007-01-31 13:58:02 by scrapper2
Keywords: Plame, Libby, federal case
Views: 81
Comments: 3

As Patrick Fitzgerald tries to put Scooter Libby in prison for having a faulty memory, his witnesses seem to have trouble with their own recollections. Some of their memories, like fine wine, improve with age.

If you told an FBI investigator that you had a grilled cheese sandwich for lunch last Friday, and a receipt turned up showing you had a ham sandwich instead, could you be indicted for lying to a federal investigator? Special prosecutor Fitzgerald seems to think so. In his world, both you and the ham sandwich could be indicted.

Vice President Dick Cheney's former chief of staff has been indicted on charges of lying to federal investigators who were trying to figure out who "leaked" the identity of former CIA desk jockey Valerie Plame Wilson.

Never mind that her identity was already widely known, as was the identity of the real "leaker" or that even if it wasn't, revealing it was not a crime because she was not a covert operative overseas as the law requires.

Libby is on trial, essentially, because the testimony of one of the busiest men in the world about his talks with reporters such as NBC's Tim Russert and Time magazine's Matt Cooper differs from the accounts of the reporters.

Fitzgerald intends to prove Libby was lying and not merely forgetful when he said he learned about Plame's identity from reporters and not from government officials involved in a vast right-wing conspiracy to punish Plame's husband, Joe Wilson, a leading Bush critic and former ambassador.

One of Fitzgerald's early witnesses, former Iraq CIA mission chief Robert L. Grenier, testified that he was certain he told Libby that the idea of sending Wilson to Niger was Plame's idea. But under cross-examination, Grenier conceded that he had not been able to recall for the FBI in December 2003 whether that conversation had occurred and was still uncertain when he testified before the grand jury in January 2004 and July 2005.

Grenier's explanation for his sudden clarity of memory 18 months after he told investigators he couldn't remember talking to Libby? "I developed a growing conviction that I must've said it," Grenier said. He recalled feeling guilty for revealing the information. "It's like, 'Wake up and smell the coffee. You must've told him.' "

Must have? Either you did or you didn't.

Another Fitzgerald witness, CIA official Craig Schmall, had to have his memory refreshed by handwritten notations in the margin of a document after he could not remember the details of a briefing with Libby in June 2003. After being shown the document and notations, Schmall testified that Libby must have mentioned Wilson and his wife then, days before Libby claimed he learned about the matter from reporter Russert.

Again, must have?

Defense lawyer John Cline made the point that if Schmall couldn't remember the details of a briefing that included discussion of more than two dozen potential terrorist threats or intelligence issues, why wasn't it plausible that Libby didn't recall every detail of that briefing?

Fitzgerald witness Marc Grossman, the former No. 3 official at the State Department, acknowledged under cross-examination making inconsistent statements during the investigation.

Grossman testified that he told Libby about Mrs. Wilson in a face-to-face meeting on June 11 or June 12, 2003. But Grossman told the FBI in October 2003 that his contacts with Libby were on the phone and not face-to-face.

Grossman testified that the first time he learned that Valerie Plame worked for the CIA was when he read a report by the State Department's Bureau of Intelligence and Research. But he told the FBI he learned about Mrs. Wilson's identity before he read the report. Questioned about this, he said, "Well, if I did so, it would have been wrong, sir." So why isn't what he did obstruction of justice?

So is Libby going to be sent to prison by witnesses with poor memories themselves?

There was another point we wanted to make, but we forgot what it was.


Poster Comment:

I think this editorial sums up the crux of the case and how it is going so far. The defendent claims he had faulty memory, that he did not obstruct the FBI investigation of the Plame's CIA identity on purpose.

The prosecutor's witnesses on defense cross examination all demonstrate faulty memories.

Why are our taxpayer dollars being wasted on this circus? Are the bad guys ever going to see jail time for the phony yellowcake uranium story? Oh my, that's the thing isn't it - the faked uranium intel crime isn't part of this case nor is who leaked the CIA agent's identity. Go figure.

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#1. To: scrapper2 (#0)

That's why I have never wasted an ounce of my time on following this "Scandal." The crime is that these fucks lied us into war. They ginned up intelligence- making shit up out of thin air- and passed it off to their media sycophants who spread it around without so much as a question. Often these guys would quote their own anonymous leaks to their whore reporters as proof of what they were saying was true! And our "reporters" didn't think that was a story in of itself?

So this Fitzgerald screws around with this semantical bullshit that no one understands or cares about while he ignores the Elephant in the room. The issue is not who "leaked" the name of some desk bound spook to our hairdo media- but who the fuck was behind the yellowcake lie? Who was behind the Aluminium tube lie? Who was setting up "curveball" in hotels and paying his bar tabs while he told his lies? Who ordered the bugging of the head of the IAEA- the list is endless. This case is just more DC bullshit- insiders playing a game of stratego with each other.

Burkeman1  posted on  2007-01-31   14:07:29 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#2. To: scrapper2 (#0)

It seems to me that the facts point to Cheney and his obsession with revenging himself on anyone who stands in his way. The atmosphere at the time seems to point to his purposefully going after Wilson and deliberately using his wife (and her identity as a CIA agent, which was not, as we've been reichwing- bamboozled, an open secret). Scooter's "faulty memory" meant that the prosecutors could never actually confirm that the Veep gave the order to screw Wilson over, attack his credibility and go after his wife. There's a huge difference between a faulty memory and lying about what you've done; which is what Scooter did.

And here we have the Vice President apparently ordering a felony be committed because he was peeved about someone exposing his outfit for the liars that they are. If the Vice President commits a crime or orders a crime or someone on his staff does so on a critical question like WHETHER WE GO TO WAR, I think that's a big fucking deal.

So I personally don't mind spending the money to get to the truth. This ain't an oval office blowjob, this is a question of starting a war. I suspect some folks think that's a big deal.

the law, in its majestic equality, forbids the rich as well as the poor to sleep under bridges, beg in the streets and steal bread.

bluedogtxn  posted on  2007-01-31   14:20:43 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#3. To: bluedogtxn, Burkeman1 (#2)

See Burkeman's #1 response. He's right on.

There's no doubt that people would like the bad guys who faked the intel and then covered it up even going so far as to destroy Plame's undercover career brought to justice.

But do you think this convoluted case about Libby's faulty memory vs his purposeful obstruction of the FBI investigation to the "leak" is going anywhere except to dismissal?

Fitz's prosecution witnesses are all being shown to have faulty memories, which is playing into Libby's defense - faulty memory.

Why weren't these prosecution witnesses vetted better? How come a defense lawyer can make them falter and change their stories and hem and haw in short order AND what's worse it's happening with each and every prosecution witness.

How come Fitzgerald promised these witnesses protection from future prosecution before he had their contributions to the Libby case down pat, air tight?

If Fitz thought he'd use the "tightness" of his case to get Libby to flip on Cheney et al - he's going to get an unpleasant surprise - unless Fitz haas some mega big prosecution witnesses sitting in the wings - based on the faulty memory performances of his witnesses thusfar - Libby is getting off scott free and he may in turn lodge wrongful prosecution proceedings against the US gov't and then the taxpayers will pay more money for this poorly prepared charade.

scrapper2  posted on  2007-01-31   14:38:15 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


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