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Title: Conn. Town Struggles With Illegal Immigrants
Source: Fox News
URL Source: http://www.foxnews.com/story/0,2933,154957,00.html
Published: Apr 28, 2005
Author: Rebecca Gomez
Post Date: 2005-04-29 17:18:52 by Zipporah
Keywords: Immigrants, Struggles, Illegal
Views: 287
Comments: 38

DANBURY, Conn. — This middle-class New England suburb is nowhere near an international border but it still has the illegal immigration problems familiar to cities like San Diego and Tucson, Ariz.

Mayor Mark Boughton (search) blames the government for his town's inability to cope with 15,000 illegal immigrants, approximately 19 percent of the overall population.

"This is one community that has been incredibly stressed by failed federal policy and we need help," said Boughton.

Because the illegal residents aren't counted in the U.S. census, Danbury (search) doesn't receive any federal aid for them.

"In terms of our social services, this presents a tremendous strain, particularly on quality of life of our neighborhoods, our schools our health care system," Boughton said.

Residents complain the influx is killing property values. Homeowner Peter Gadiel said neighbors are fed up. "They're blue collar workers and their whole life savings is tied up in their house and they're seeing their neighborhood being destroyed."

The mayor says he wants state police officers to be deputized as federal immigration officers — giving them access to a federal database and helping them track illegal immigrants. But Connecticut's attorney general said Boughton needs the approval of the governor and others before that can happen.

Boughton has set up a task force to inspect neighborhoods that have received a lot of complaints about buildings housing illegal immigrants. In one home, the task force found 30 cots in the basement, each one being rented for $5 a night.

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#1. To: Zipporah (#0)

Because the illegal residents aren't counted in the U.S. census, Danbury (search) doesn't receive any federal aid for them.

Not true. Census does not require citizenship to be counted. As a matter of fact, the census went out of its way to ensure this segment of the communities were counted, recounted and double counted.

Mr Nuke Buzzcut  posted on  2005-04-29   17:22:56 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#2. To: Zipporah (#0)

Even IF they could control illegal immigration, which they will not, the LEGAL immigration would destroy America all by itself.
By Design, not chance

1776  posted on  2005-04-29   17:24:00 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#3. To: Zipporah (#0)

I lived in California for a long, long time. I saw what the influx of illegals did to that state, and I spoke out against it over and over. What was my reward for that? Being called "racist" by other people, including those from other states that didn't suffer from the ill effects of immivasion. That's all I heard, over and over, "racist, racist, racist. You don't like it because you're racist. Racists are evil. You are evil. I don't want to hear your evil comments any longer".

Well, I finally got myself in a position where I could move away from California, and moved to a place that has yet to be overrun. So what do I have to say to these good people of Connecticut? The ones who don't like the immivasion?

They're just racist. Since racists are evil, they are evil, and they deserve what they have coming to them.

Sorry, I just can't care about my fellow Americans much any longer. They didn't care about me, why should I care about them? All I got was abuse from them. They'll get what they have coming.

Elliott Jackalope  posted on  2005-04-29   17:42:44 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#4. To: Elliott Jackalope (#3)

Sorry, I just can't care about my fellow Americans much any longer. They didn't care about me, why should I care about them? All I got was abuse from them. They'll get what they have coming.

The sad part is that the vast majority of Americans do NOT want this and want the illegals deported.. And it's obvious our 'representatives' could give a crap what Americans want or is in their best interest.. nor do they care about the law. IMO American is done.. it's gone way too far to ever go back ...

Zipporah  posted on  2005-04-29   18:04:08 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#5. To: Zipporah (#4)

And it's obvious our 'representatives' could give a crap what Americans want or is in their best interest.. nor do they care about the law.

That's the truly insane part. We've come to the point in history where the will of the people and the legal foundation for the government no longer matter to our rulers. They have an agenda and they will pursue it without regard for us our the law. They no longer must fear the results of elections, which was the only impotent tool we ever had short of violence to begin with.

Mr Nuke Buzzcut  posted on  2005-04-29   18:09:28 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#6. To: Elliott Jackalope (#3)

Sorry, I just can't care about my fellow Americans much any longer

Yes, fuck them. May Jose and Juanita move in next door under Section 8 housing, with 20 of their closest friends.

Jethro Tull  posted on  2005-04-29   18:10:41 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#7. To: Zipporah (#0)

their whole life savings is tied up in their house and they're seeing their neighborhood being destroyed."

Indeed it doesn't help your home value to have 20 people living in the house next door.

MUDDOG  posted on  2005-04-29   18:22:59 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#8. To: Jethro Tull (#6)

May Jose and Juanita move in next door under Section 8 housing, with 20 of their closest friends.

That happened to me once. We lived in a duplex and Mexicans moved into the other unit. LOTS of Mexicans. We asked the landlord if she was aware of how many people were living there and she got all haughty and told us to mind our own business. We had to move because of the smell. When they cooked it made our house smell like burning rancid grease. Kind of like behind a dirty restaurant dumpster on a very hot summer day.

Mr Nuke Buzzcut  posted on  2005-04-29   18:36:25 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#9. To: Elliott Jackalope (#3)

Sorry, I just can't care about my fellow Americans much any longer. They didn't care about me, why should I care about them? All I got was abuse from them. They'll get what they have coming.

my sentiments exactly..at least that's my attitude toward those who are willfully stupefied..like the dumb bots i left LP to get away from.

christine  posted on  2005-04-29   18:50:06 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#10. To: christine (#9)

Or as one guy said:

We aren't quite there yet, Brothers and Sisters, but have faith and demonstrate perseverance and solidarity in the face of the forthcoming adversity. As things get worse for everyone, they get better for us, and the world will eventually beat the proverbial path to our doors begging for a genuine solution.

1776  posted on  2005-04-29   18:59:25 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#11. To: Mr Nuke Buzzcut (#8)

When they cooked it made our house smell like burning rancid grease. Kind of like behind a dirty restaurant dumpster on a very hot summer day.

Isn't diversity grand?

Jethro Tull  posted on  2005-04-29   19:29:49 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#12. To: 1776 (#10)

keep that candle burning...

christine  posted on  2005-04-29   19:37:04 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#13. To: 1776 (#2)

the LEGAL immigration would destroy America all by itself.

The American people, the ones who hold the views of the Americans of our Forefathers, have only one choice now. Be prepared and do what they can to protect their families.

Don  posted on  2005-04-29   19:43:13 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#14. To: Elliott Jackalope (#3)

Substitute America for California in your remarks.

Don  posted on  2005-04-29   19:45:31 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#15. To: Mr Nuke Buzzcut (#1)

Not true. Census does not require citizenship to be counted. As a matter of fact, the census went out of its way to ensure this segment of the communities were counted, recounted and double counted.

I worked the census the last time around. You can't count those who hide and you can't count those who refuse to fill out paperwork. Illegals are notorious for not signing ANYTHING, be it emergency room forms, or a census. The few that actually will fill out a census will tell you they have one other person living with them and that's it.

justlurking  posted on  2005-04-29   19:46:27 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#16. To: Jethro Tull, Mr Nuke Buzzcut (#11)

When they cooked it made our house smell like burning rancid grease. Kind of like behind a dirty restaurant dumpster on a very hot summer day.

Isn't diversity grand?

If you like the smell of the Mexicans, you'll LOVE the smell of Somalis.

Indrid Cold  posted on  2005-04-29   19:58:17 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#17. To: christine (#12)

Everything seems to be working just fine now..

Thanks Christine..

tpaine  posted on  2005-04-29   20:01:36 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#18. To: Indrid Cold (#16)

If you like the smell of the Mexicans, you'll LOVE the smell of Somalis.

American women seem to like them. But, I think that it is largely the women who can't find anyone else or who have been completely indoctrinates and think they are achieving nirvana on earth by "hooking up" with a diverse person.

Don  posted on  2005-04-29   20:02:10 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#19. To: All (#18)

indoctrinates = indoctrinated

This week has been a long one. It is the last week of classes. The week of finals begin on Monday.

Don  posted on  2005-04-29   20:04:16 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#20. To: tpaine (#17)

Hey!

Jhoffa_  posted on  2005-04-29   20:04:31 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#21. To: tpaine (#17)

my pleasure, tpaine. nice to have you here.

christine  posted on  2005-04-29   20:06:12 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#22. To: Don (#18)

American women seem to like them. But, I think that it is largely the women who can't find anyone else or who have been completely indoctrinates and think they are achieving nirvana on earth by "hooking up" with a diverse person.

*shudder*

I used to say, "I've never met an African I didn't like." Then I met the Somalis. Even other Africans don't like them.

Indrid Cold  posted on  2005-04-29   20:09:00 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#23. To: Indrid Cold (#22)

American women will take anything.

Don  posted on  2005-04-29   20:10:06 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#24. To: All (#23)

American women will take anything.

Or, should I say many?

Don  posted on  2005-04-29   20:17:55 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#25. To: Zipporah (#0)

Here's a little story about my Neighborhood.

I live in Minneapolis. I live in a part of town that is mostly professionals, and working class people. These people work their asses off, take care of their property, and basically do what we all do, and not live at everyone else's expense.

Then about 2 years ago, some guy bought this duplex which shares a fence adjacent to our parking lot. Within a matter of months, it was turned into a 4 plex. It is now, not only a residence for about a dozen or so Mexicans, BUT, it's also the place where the local scumbags can buy their dope.

We have our cars broken into, and we've had people lying in our parking lot. We had Illegals breaking into our laundry room, and rifling through the storage lockers. We had them cutting their hair in our laundry room sink.

We still see these morons out there in the summer time, blaring their fucking music, having cookouts, and fights at all hours of the night. We also have the smell of something cooking, and I don't mean food. It's a drug house, and a flop house for a lot of people who shouldn't even be in this country. So One day I call Immigration, and guess what they told me???

They said that I should mind my own business and that they can't just show up and check them for green cards because someone complains about them. When I mentioned the drug thing to them, they didn't care, and told me to call the police.

So I call the police, and tell them about the happenings over there, AND NOTHING HAPPENED. Because I'm a white guy, I'm immediately labeled a hateful racist who would love nothing more than to cleanse my neighborhood of all the non-whites I can.

Horseshit. All I want is a safe place for me and my wife. I want to be able to maintain my standard of living, and I sure as fuck want a laundry room that is safe and criminal free.

But hey, I'm moving soon, as I bought a house, and guess what??? A Mexican family moved in across the street from our soon to be new place, and the same fucking thing happened there too. So it isn't just an isolated incident, it happens all the fucking time.

You want to stop urban blight? Crime? Graphitti? Destruction Of Property? Rape? Murder??? STOP THE FUCKING FLOW OF ILLEGAL ALIENS.

TommyTheMadArtist  posted on  2005-04-29   22:58:38 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#26. To: TommyTheMadArtist (#25)

I went through a very similar situation.

My house is located in the burbs of a small town in central Pa. Across the road from me was cornfield and this location was a somewhat private utopia for the first 10 years I lived here. It was quiet,private with very little traffic.

Then a Developer bought the corn field and built 5 very nice Duplexes with extremely high rents for this area. My wife and I figured people would move in who respected property rights and the development would not infringe too much on the way of life we were used to.

Then,the first tenants moved in directly across the road from us. I always suspected they were illegals beause of the situation and their life style. It wasn't long until the place was turned into a drug-infested flop-house which attracted all kinds of riff-raff. The traffic to that place was constant and resembled the local drive-thru bank on a Friday night. They would have those vehicles with the 15" woofers and would 'crank them' all hours of the night. They would party in the front driveway and throw their beer bottles on the road,in my driveway and yard. My yard was ripped apart from their 'customers' turning around in my yard. Its been almost 2 years since they left and I'm still trying to fix the damage.

Many mornings I would leave for work at 5:am and they would be over there drinking,doing drugs and talking as loud as they could in Spanish. It was a nightmare and many mornings I would have to clean broken beer bottles out of my driveway just so I could get out. None of them worked but they were able to pay an incredibly high rent and bought whatever they wanted. There is not a doubt that they were drug dealers. I never said anything to them or anyone in law enforcement because I was concerned about reprisals.

Finally after 3 years they moved out in the middle of the night and left everything. They would leave for a week at a time and leave their 2 Labs in the house. I suspect they would go to Philly on NYC to replenish their drug supplies. After they moved,the caretaker of the Duplexes told me the incredible damage they had done in the time they lived there. All the carpeting had to be replaced and huge sections of walls had to be relaced too from them punching holes in the walls. They had broken several windows and destroyed the cabinets in the kitchen and bathrooms. In other words,they totally trashed the place. After,3 months of work,a fumigator and $30K,they were able to rent it again.

It was 3 years of pure hell.

I wish someone like that would move next to Jorge Bush.

Grumble Jones  posted on  2005-04-30   8:38:43 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#27. To: Grumble Jones (#26)

Hi Grumble, welcome to 4.

christine  posted on  2005-04-30   10:45:18 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#28. To: Grumble Jones (#26)

Hey GP. I'm in State College.

Jethro Tull  posted on  2005-04-30   10:49:41 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#29. To: Grumble Jones, TommyTheMadArtist (#26)

after reading your experiences, the song from West Side Story, "America", is running through my mind.

christine  posted on  2005-04-30   10:56:01 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#30. To: Zipporah, christine, Don (#0)

Neil Diamond

America

Far
We've been traveling far
Without a home
But not without a star
Free
Only want to be free
We huddle close
Hang on to a dream

On the boats and on the planes
They're coming to America
Never looking back again
They're coming to America

Home, don't it seem so far away
Oh, we're traveling light today
In the eye of the storm
In the eye of the storm

Home, to a new and a shiny place
Make our bed, and we'll say our grace
Freedom's light burning warm
Freedom's light burning warm

Everywhere around the world
They're coming to America
Every time that flag's unfurled
They're coming to America

Got a dream to take them there
They're coming to America
Got a dream they've come to share
They're coming to America

They're coming to America
They're coming to America
They're coming to America
They're coming to America
Today, today, today, today, today

My country 'tis of thee
Today
Sweet land of liberty
Today
Of thee I sing
Today
Of thee I sing
Today


Cherchez le Juif

Immigration

Prof. MacDonald argues that it is entirely natural for Jews to promote open immigration. It brings about the “diversity” Jews find comforting and it keeps America open to persecuted co-religionists throughout the world. He says Jews are the only group that has always fought for mass immigration; a few European ethnic organizations have made sporadic efforts to make it easier for their own people to come, but only Jews have consistently promoted open borders for all comers. Moreover, whatever disagreements they may have had on other issues, Jews of every political persuasion have favored high immigration.

This, too, goes back many years, and Prof. MacDonald traces in considerable detail the sustained Jewish pro-immigration effort. Israel Zangwill, author of the eponymous 1908 play The Melting Pot, was of the view that “[t]here is only one way to World Peace, and that is the absolute abolition of passports, visas, frontiers, custom houses . . . .”

He was nevertheless an ardent Zionist and disapproved of Jewish intermarriage.

Although the statue of liberty, properly known as Liberty Enlightening the World, was a gift to the United States from France as a tribute to American political traditions, the sonnet by the Jewish Emma Lazarus helped change it into a symbol of immigration. Affixed to the base of the statue several decades after its construction, the poem welcomes to America “huddled masses yearning to breath free /The wretched refuse of your teeming shore.”

Emma Lazarus

Prof. MacDonald has discovered that implausible arguments about diversity being a quintessentially American strength have been made by Jews for a long time. He reports that in 1948 the American Jewish Committee was urging Congress to believe that “Americanism is the spirit behind the welcome that America has traditionally extended to people of all races, all religions, all nationalities.” Of course, there had never been such a tradition. In 1952, the American Jewish Congress argued in hearings on immigration that “our national experience has confirmed beyond a doubt that our very strength lies in the diversity of our peoples.” This, too, was at a time when U.S. immigration law was still explicitly designed to maintain a white majority.

It has often been said that when the old immigration policy was scrapped in 1965, scarcely anyone knew, and no one predicted, that the new law would change the racial makeup of the country. Prof. MacDonald disputes this, arguing that this had been the objective of Jewish groups from the beginning.

Prof. MacDonald finds that Jews have been the foremost advocates of immigration in England, France, and Canada, and that Jewish groups were the most vocal opponents of independence for Quebec. Australian Jews led the effort to dismantle the “white Australia” policy, one reason for which was cited in an editorial in the Australian Jewish Democrat: “The strengthening of multi-cultural or diverse Australia is also our most effective insurance policy against anti-Semitism. The day Australia has a Chinese Australian Governor General I would feel more confident of my freedom to live as a Jewish Australian.” Like Earl Raab writing about the United States, this Australian Jew is prepared to sacrifice the traditional culture, people, and identity of Australia to specifically Jewish interests.

1776  posted on  2005-04-30   12:59:17 ET  (1 image) Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#31. To: Zipporah (#0)

"In terms of our social services, this presents a tremendous strain, particularly on quality of life of our neighborhoods, our schools our health care system," Boughton said.

It isn't that I'm not sympathetic, but sitting here in Southern California, it's real hard to feel sorry for Danbury, CT over this issue.

robin  posted on  2005-04-30   13:01:59 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#32. To: TommyTheMadArtist (#25)

So One day I call Immigration, and guess what they told me???

They said that I should mind my own business and that they can't just show up and check them for green cards because someone complains about them. When I mentioned the drug thing to them, they didn't care, and told me to call the police.

So I call the police, and tell them about the happenings over there, AND NOTHING HAPPENED. Because I'm a white guy, I'm immediately labeled a hateful racist who would love nothing more than to cleanse my neighborhood of all the non-whites I can.

Horseshit. All I want is a safe place for me and my wife. I want to be able to maintain my standard of living, and I sure as fuck want a laundry room that is safe and criminal free.

But hey, I'm moving soon, as I bought a house, and guess what??? A Mexican family moved in across the street from our soon to be new place, and the same fucking thing happened there too. So it isn't just an isolated incident, it happens all the fucking time.

You want to stop urban blight? Crime? Graphitti? Destruction Of Property? Rape? Murder??? STOP THE FUCKING FLOW OF ILLEGAL ALIENS.

Good gawd.. I know I called immigration.. based upon what was said on their own SITE.. and I told them that there were illegals working at a particular business.. the answer? OH you cant just think they may be illegal you have to KNOW then we may check.. I asked how could I know..?? Well you are an employer and if you're friends with them.. I said UH I dont think my circle of friends would include illegals.. so it was basically a F-U and your concerns.. I spoke to a cop in a city near me and as we were standing there, several illegals passed.. and I asked him what the situation was in that city.. he said, he caught several illegals in some illegal activity and called immigration.. you know what they told him? Call us back when you have 25.. WTF? The cop said just wait till the mexican gangs start.. and he said they're coming.. Although this was the inner city.. the crime rate there is amazingly low actually.. this city isnt equiped really to handle that type of criminal element.

Zipporah  posted on  2005-04-30   13:58:07 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#33. To: 1776 (#30)

To put it simply, the country is heading for a major train wreck. Citizens cannot depend upon their leaders or the military and police forces to protect them. You are on your own.

Don  posted on  2005-04-30   14:18:26 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#34. To: christine, Jethro Tull (#27)

Thanks for the welcome Christine!

I've been lurking for a few months and I really like what I've read. It looks like a great bunch of like-minded folks here.

Jethro

Since I wrote that rather abrasive rant I won't disclose my exact town but I'm about 60 miles due East from you right near the majestic Susquehanna! :-D

How's old Ian doing?

Grumble Jones  posted on  2005-04-30   18:46:02 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#35. To: robin (#31)

but sitting here in Southern California, it's real hard to feel sorry for Danbury, CT over this issue.

Indeed,but one must realize that Danbury is way up in the N.E. That's how far they've infiltrated away from the border.

Grumble Jones  posted on  2005-04-30   18:48:39 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#36. To: Elliott Jackalope (#3)

Sorry, I just can't care about my fellow Americans much any longer. They didn't care about me, why should I care about them? All I got was abuse from them. They'll get what they have coming.

Well said, even in the days of our founding fathers very few would stand up and be counted. I to feel very little sympathy for the sheep that infest the landscape we call America. I guess you could say I'm a pessimist fore I see no stopping the coming total police state and dismantling of our standard of living.

timetobuildaboat  posted on  2005-04-30   19:06:34 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#37. To: Don (#33)

To put it simply, the country is heading for a major train wreck. Citizens cannot depend upon their leaders or the military and police forces to protect them. You are on your own.

Let us seek those who share our beliefs and form contigency plans.
When the Event happens, meaning the collapse of the System, things will be unimaginable.

Chittum's Civil War 2 Checklist

1776  posted on  2005-05-01   0:28:17 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#38. To: 1776 (#37)

Yeah, the thread is an interesting one.

Don  posted on  2005-05-01   0:29:56 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


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