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Title: 46 Nations Back New Environmental Body
Source: http://abcnews.go.com
URL Source: http://abcnews.go.com/International/print?id=2847081
Published: Feb 3, 2007
Author: ANGELA CHARLTON
Post Date: 2007-02-03 20:54:31 by robin
Keywords: None
Views: 189
Comments: 11

46 Nations Back New Environmental Body

46 Nations, Minus U.S., Sign on to Call for New World Body to Protect Warming Planet

By ANGELA CHARLTON The Associated Press

PARIS - Forty-five nations answered France's call Saturday for a new environmental body to slow inevitable global warming and protect the planet, perhaps with policing powers to punish violators.

Absent were the world's heavyweight polluter, the United States, and booming nations on the same path as the U.S. China and India.

The charge led by French President Jacques Chirac came a day after the release of an authoritative and disturbingly grim scientific report in Paris that said global warming is "very likely" caused by mankind and that climate change will continue for centuries even if heat-trapping gases are reduced. It was the strongest language ever used by the Intergovernmental Panel on Climate Change, whose last report was issued in 2001.

The document, a collaboration of hundreds of scientists and government officials, was approved by 113 nations, including the United States.

Despite the report's dire outlook, most scientists say the worst disasters huge sea level rises and the most catastrophic storms and droughts may be avoided if strong action is taken soon.

In his call to action at a French-sponsored environment conference on Saturday, Chirac said, "It is our responsibility. The future of humanity demands it."

Without naming the United States producer of about one-quarter of the world's greenhouse gases Chirac expressed frustration that "some large, rich countries still must be convinced." They are "refusing to accept the consequences of their acts," he said.

So far, it is mostly European nations that agreed to pursue plans for the new organization, and to hold their first meeting in Morocco this spring.

Chirac, 74, is seeking to leave his mark on international affairs before he leaves office, likely in May, though his own environmental record over 12 years as France's president is spotty.

Former Vice President Al Gore, whose Oscar-nominated documentary on the perils of global warming has garnered worldwide attention, cheered Chirac's efforts.

"We are at a tipping point," Gore told the conference by videophone. "We must act, and act swiftly ... Such action requires international cooperation."

The world's scientists and other international leaders also said now that the science is so well-documented, action is clearly the next step.

"It is time now to hear from the world's policymakers," Tim Wirth, president of the United Nations Foundation, said Friday. "The so-called and long-overstated 'debate' about global warming is now over."

Granger Morgan, an energy expert at Carnegie Mellon University in the United States predicted the new climate report "will kick a few more folks to get on board."

And Jason Grumet, head of U.S. bipartisan advocacy group, the National Commission on Energy Policy, said: "The debate has clearly shifted from a battle over the science to fighting over the scope and design of the solution."

However, many questions remain about Chirac's proposed new environmental body, including whether it would have the power to enforce global climate accords.

Chirac's appeal says only that the group should "evaluate ecological damage" and "support the implementation of environmental decisions."

Many countries have failed to meet targets for cutting greenhouse gas emissions laid out in the 1997 Kyoto Protocol. The United States has never ratified the pact. And on Friday, the Bush administration reiterated its rejection of imposed cuts on greenhouse gases.

Earlier this week, Chirac warned in a published interview that the United States could face a carbon tax on its exports if it does not sign global climate accords.

The European Union, which agreed to the Kyoto Protocol curbing emissions, has committed to a 20 percent reduction in carbon pollution by 2020, said Yvo de Boer, executive secretary of the U.N. Framework Convention on Climate Change. And if others join them, they could even try for 60 percent cuts by 2050, he said.

The United Nations also is considering a summit of world leaders to tackle global warming, and de Boer said he would expect the United States to send high-ranking officials to it.

Despite White House resistance to carbon-cutting measures with teeth, de Boer and Carnegie Mellon professor Morgan said they see movement in the United States anyway.

"We are certainly building critical mass among opinion leaders and nontechnical folks," Morgan said from Pittsburgh, citing recent calls to action by corporate CEOs, even in the energy industry. "We are at the point over the next three to five years where the U.S. is going to get quite serious about it."

And in May, the same international panel that wrote Friday's report will wrap up a new document spelling out the benefits and costs of slowing global warming, setting up a buffet of choices for policymakers.

For now, scientists are energized that the world is finally listening to them.

Kevin Trenberth, an American co-author of the new climate report, marveled at the overflow crowd of more than 400 reporters on hand for the document's release on Friday. It was more reporters than he'd seen in decades of climate conferences. He took out a small camera, smiled and took a picture of the media.

Seth Borenstein is an AP Science Writer.

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#1. To: robin (#0)

Wow... 46 nations duped into believing the lie that is Man Made Global Warming. What a fucking crock of shit.

If global warming is man made, then how come Mars, Venus, Jupiter, Saturn are all experiencing GLOBAL WARMING???

Two Words. SOLAR ACTIVITY. The sun gets angry from time to time, and it flare up, thust expelling huge amounts of radiation and heat in all directions. OUR DIRECTION AS WELL.

The leaders of these 46 nations should be impeached for imcompetence.

This country's priorities are all fucked up.

TommyTheMadArtist  posted on  2007-02-03   22:12:15 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#2. To: TommyTheMadArtist (#1)

That's not what the ice core samples say.

http://news.bbc.co.uk/2/hi/science/nature/5314592.stm

Deep ice tells long climate story

By Jonathan Amos


Science reporter, BBC News, Norwich


Ice core.  Image: J. Schwander/University of Bern

Epica drills have extracted ice from deep under the surface

Carbon dioxide levels are substantially higher now than at any time in the last 800,000 years, the latest study of ice drilled out of Antarctica confirms.

The in-depth analysis of air bubbles trapped in a 3.2km-long core of frozen snow shows current greenhouse gas concentrations are unprecedented.

The East Antarctic core is the longest, deepest ice column yet extracted.

Project scientists say its contents indicate humans could be bringing about dangerous climate changes.

"My point would be that there's nothing in the ice core that gives us any cause for comfort," said Dr Eric Wolff from the British Antarctic Survey (BAS).

"There's nothing that suggests that the Earth will take care of the increase in carbon dioxide. The ice core suggests that the increase in carbon dioxide will definitely give us a climate change that will be dangerous," he told BBC News.

The Antarctic researcher was speaking here at the British Association's (BA) Science Festival.

Slice of history

The ice core comes from a region of the White Continent known as Dome Concordia (Dome C). It has been drilled out by the European Project for Ice Coring in Antarctica (Epica), a 10-country consortium.

The column's value to science is the tiny pockets of ancient air that were locked into its millennia of accumulating snowflakes.

Each slice of this now compacted snow records a moment in Earth history, giving researchers a direct measure of past environmental conditions.

Not only can scientists see past concentrations of carbon dioxide and methane - the two principal human-produced gases now blamed for global warming - in the slices, they can also gauge past temperatures from the samples.

This is done by analysing the presence of different types, or isotopes, of hydrogen atom that are found preferentially in precipitating water (snow) when temperatures are relatively warm.

'Scary' rate

Earlier results from the Epica core were published in 2004 and 2005, detailing the events back to 440,000 years and 650,000 years respectively. Scientists have now gone the full way through the column, back another 150,000 years.

The picture is the same: carbon dioxide and temperature rise and fall in step.

Microscope picture of gas bubbles in ice.  Image: W.
Berner/University of Bern
Like tiny time capsules, bubbles trap ancient samples of atmosphere

"Ice cores reveal the Earth's natural climate rhythm over the last 800,000 years. When carbon dioxide changed there was always an accompanying climate change. Over the last 200 years human activity has increased carbon dioxide to well outside the natural range," explained Dr Wolff.

The "scary thing", he added, was the rate of change now occurring in CO2 concentrations. In the core, the fastest increase seen was of the order of 30 parts per million (ppm) by volume over a period of roughly 1,000 years.

"The last 30 ppm of increase has occurred in just 17 years. We really are in the situation where we don't have an analogue in our records," he said.

Natural buffer

The plan now is to try to extend the ice-core record even further back in time. Scientists think another location, near to a place known as Dome A (Dome Argus), could allow them to sample atmospheric gases up to a million and a half years ago.

Some of the increases in carbon dioxide will be alleviated by natural "sinks" on the land and in the oceans, such as the countless planktonic organisms that effectively pull carbon out of the atmosphere as they build skeletons and shell coverings.

But Dr Corinne Le Quéré, of the University of East Anglia and BAS, warned the festival that these sinks may become less efficient over time.

We could not rely on them to keep on buffering our emissions, she said.

"For example, we don't know what the effect will be of ocean acidification on marine ecosystems. There is potential for deterioration," she explained.

More CO2 absorbed by the oceans will raise their acidity, and a number of recent studies have concluded that this will eventually disrupt the ability of marine micro-organisms to use the calcium carbonate in the water to produce their hard parts.

You can fool all of the people some of the time
You can fool some of the people all of the time
But you can't fool all of the people all of the time.
Abraham Lincoln, 1864

robin  posted on  2007-02-03   22:21:17 ET  (3 images) Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#3. To: robin (#2)

Here's a little insight as to climate. During the Cretaceous period, Our planet's average temperature was probably close to 130 degrees on any given day, with a relative humidity of about a million. There was a lot less water in the oceans, and a hell of alot more in the air.

After that little asteroid hit, it cooled the planet off, and ever since then, we're talking a couple million years of REALLY ICY TEMPERATURE, it started to warm up. Why did it warm up? Did Cavemen drive SUV's??? No they didn't. Did Cavement detonate atomic bombs? No they didn't.

The Earth warms on its own, and the weather is very cyclical, and deep ice is not the ONLY arbiter of what the truth is behind global warming, because we had a mini iceage during the 11th century. Remember another thing called the Dark Ages? It wasn't because it was repressive, it was because the sky went dark for 2 fucking years.

Global Warming is yet another part of the plan that the elites have in order to bring about world government, and behavioral modification. It won't stop the elites from driving their cars, or heating their houses.

Air Quality, and Methane Emissions have gone DOWN since 1970. Perhaps it's because there's nearly 8 billion people on the planet, all of whom give off body heat. Perhaps the solution to global warming, is to wipe out 90 percent of the population, because after all, we need to bring the temperature down.

I don't know about you, but it's negative 7 here in Minneapolis, and it's fucking cold. Don't tell me that there's global warming, because it aint here.

This country's priorities are all fucked up.

TommyTheMadArtist  posted on  2007-02-03   22:29:25 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#4. To: TommyTheMadArtist (#3)

Carbon dioxide levels are substantially higher now than at any time in the last 800,000 years, the latest study of ice drilled out of Antarctica confirms.

The elites will use anything to control us, but so far they are not even on this particular bandwagon. This is a global problem that needs to be addressed. It's overdue.

You can fool all of the people some of the time
You can fool some of the people all of the time
But you can't fool all of the people all of the time.
Abraham Lincoln, 1864

robin  posted on  2007-02-03   23:40:49 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#5. To: robin (#4)

So the answer is the WEO? Like the WTO/WHO.

Mark

"I was real close to Building 7 when it fell down... That didn't sound like just a building falling down to me while I was running away from it. There's a lot of eyewitness testimony down there of hearing explosions. [..] and the whole time you're hearing "boom, boom, boom, boom, boom." I think I know an explosion when I hear it... — Former NYC Police Officer and 9/11 Rescue Worker Craig Bartmer

Kamala  posted on  2007-02-04   9:58:55 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#6. To: TommyTheMadArtist (#1)

Hey Tom, how's the weather up there in MINN?

Minus 5 here in Chicago.

Mark

"I was real close to Building 7 when it fell down... That didn't sound like just a building falling down to me while I was running away from it. There's a lot of eyewitness testimony down there of hearing explosions. [..] and the whole time you're hearing "boom, boom, boom, boom, boom." I think I know an explosion when I hear it... — Former NYC Police Officer and 9/11 Rescue Worker Craig Bartmer

Kamala  posted on  2007-02-04   10:01:01 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#7. To: TommyTheMadArtist (#3)

The Earth warms on its own, and the weather is very cyclical,

No shit. As for the assertion of "highest CO2 levels in 800,000 years or whatever" - how much of that is attributed to the intense volcanic activity of late??? My guess is that when a volcano starts belching it's putting out a helluva lot of 'greenhouse gas'. And how many of those things are there belching everyday??? Quite a few... What do they recommend we do about that - toss some Rolaids down 'em???

Hell, even way down here in TX (albeit northern TX) we STILL have snow practically covering the ground from a storm 2 weeks ago. (But just recently in Laredo it was 33° in the daytime - and that's WAY down south in TX!!!) Plus we've been having a winter storm weekly for over a month now. Just got more snow 2 days ago. Nightly temps have been running single digits or very close for 2 straight weeks - daytime highs below freezing or just barely above during that stretch. I guess the 'global warming' has been driving what's left of the cold to America's mid-section...

No matter how noble the objectives of a government; if it blurs decency and kindness, cheapens human life, and breeds ill will and suspicion - it is an EVIL government. Eric Hoffer

innieway  posted on  2007-02-04   10:39:35 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#8. To: robin (#0)

Tell you what...as soon as they can perfect the 10-day weather forcast, I'll listen to what these guys have to say about what the weather is going to be like in 50 years. It's ten fucking degrees here in Ohio with a wind chill of -8.

I could stand for some "global warming" right now. In fact, give me a can a freon and a tank of C02 and let me do my part to help it along!

"First I'm gonna bother everybody I meet, and then I'll probably go home and get drunk."

orangedog  posted on  2007-02-04   10:49:08 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#9. To: orangedog, innieway, Kamala, TommyTheMadArtist (#8)

Don't expect an improvement in weather predictions. No doubt this issue will be used to control us in some way, by some organization or another. But that doesn't mean we should hide our collective heads in the sand. Something different is going on. Wayne Madsen has been reporting the methane gas emitting from the ocean floor.

The scientific verdict is in: Earth no longer hangs in the balance. It is in extremis.

methane bubbling up from the ocean floors

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Global_warming

You can fool all of the people some of the time
You can fool some of the people all of the time
But you can't fool all of the people all of the time.
Abraham Lincoln, 1864

robin  posted on  2007-02-04   11:08:25 ET  (3 images) Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#10. To: robin (#9)

You forgot the dramatic rise in population too. I guess we better set up the death camps so we can get rid of those surplus people generating all that heat. We better get rid of the fat people first, because they're consuming the most, and we all know how fat people generate heat too.

While we're at it, let's wipe out the elderly, the Baby Boomers especially, since there's so many more of them than any other people in this country. On top of that, let's round up the homeless, because they're actually outside, and creating heat too. Then we'll round up the developmentally disabled, and the insane. Those people are also directly responsible for global warming as well.

Your argument about man made global warming is a joke, because it's NOT JUST OUR PLANET THAT IS HEATING UP. MARS IS HEATING UP, THEY NO LONGER HAVE POLAR ICE. SATURN IS ALSO HEATING UP, AS ARE ITS MOONS. VENUS IS HEATING UP AS WELL, AND LAST TIME I CHECKED NONE OF THESE PLANETS HAVE PEOPLE ON THEM, OR SUV'S CAUSING POLLUTION.

People are idiots to believe that human beings are responsible for SOLAR HEATING, because it aint just our planet that's heating up. Let me know when you can explain the warming of mars, or is it heating up because we sent a couple man-made landers there?

This country's priorities are all fucked up.

TommyTheMadArtist  posted on  2007-02-04   14:46:23 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#11. To: TommyTheMadArtist (#10)

You forgot the dramatic rise in population too.

In the last few years?

Scientists offered cash to dispute climate study

All wars are fought for money.
~Socrates

robin  posted on  2007-02-04   15:08:15 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


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