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Title: Anglican/Episcopal Church Officially Promotes Idol Worship
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Published: Feb 5, 2007
Author: Ted Olsen
Post Date: 2007-02-05 15:16:12 by richard9151
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Views: 766
Comments: 47

Date: Sun, Jan 21 2007 2:49 am

*False Churches, False Brethren, False Gospels

Weblog: Anglican/Episcopal Church Officially Promotes Idol Worship*

*"Women's Eucharist" calls for worship of pagan deities specifically condemned in Scripture.*

Compiled by Ted Olsen

Imagine for one moment that you're a leader in the Anglican/Episcopal Church USA. You know that within the next few days, a global commission is going to release a report on how the global Anglican Communion should respond to your church, and is likely to be critical of the ordination of an actively homosexual man as bishop. You know, and have said yourself, that the debate isn't just about sexuality: It's about how one views the Bible. And you know that all eyes will be on your denomination over the next few weeks. What do you do?

What the real leaders of the Anglican/Episcopal Church did was to take an action that makes ordaining a homosexual man as a bishop almost a non-issue. They started promoting the (Satanic) worship of pagan deities.

This is not a joke nor an overstatement. In all truth and seriousness, leaders of the Anglican/Episcopal Church USA are promoting pagan rites to pagan deities. And not just any new pagan deities: The Anglican/Episcopal Church USA, though its Office of Women's Ministries, is actually promoting the worship of idols specifically condemned in Scripture.

"A Women's Eucharist: A Celebration of the Divine Feminine" is taken almost completely (without attribution) from a rite from Tuatha de Brighid, "a Clan of modern Druids who believe in the interconnectedness of all faiths." But who cares where it's from? Look at what it says. Here's how it begins.

We gather around a low table, covered with a woven cloth or shawl. A candle, a bowl or vase of flowers, a large shallow bowl filled with salted water, a chalice of sweet red wine, a cup of milk mixed with honey, and a plate of raisin cakes are placed on the table.

You might be wondering: What's with the raisin cakes? Is it just Communion wafers with raisins? No.

The plate of raisin cakes is raised and a woman says,

"Mother God, our ancient sisters called you Queen of Heaven and baked these cakes in your honor in defiance of their brothers and husbands who would not see your feminine face. We offer you these cakes, made with our own hands; filled with the grain of life scattered and gathered into one loaf, then broken and shared among many. We offer these cakes and enjoy them too. They are rich with the sweetness of fruit, fertile with the ripeness of grain, sweetened with the power of love. May we also be signs of your love and abundance."

The plate is passed and each woman takes and eats a cake.

So those raisin cakes have a historical reference: Those "brothers and husbands" banned them. Sound familiar? It's a reference to Hosea 3:1:

And the LORD said to me, "Go again, love a woman who is loved by another man and is an adulteress, even as the LORD loves the children of Israel, though they turn to other gods and love cakes of raisins."

Now there are other biblical references to raisin cakes, but this is the only reference (except possibly this one) to them having any kind of role in worship.

Many scholars believe they were offerings to the goddess Asherah, the female counterpart to Baal, but in this context it may be more directly tied to Ishtar/Ashtoreth/ Astarte, the "Queen of Heaven."

"Our ancient sisters called you Queen of Heaven," says the Anglican/Episcopal liturgy.

That's a reference to Jeremiah. And not a happy one. In Jeremiah 7, God complains, "The children gather wood, the fathers kindle fire, and the women knead dough, to make cakes for the queen of heaven. And they pour out drink offerings to other gods, to provoke me to anger."

The liturgy's reference to defiant women worshipping the Queen of Heaven with cakes comes directly from Jeremiah 44:

Then all the men who knew that their wives had made offerings to other gods, and all the women who stood by, a great assembly, all the people who lived in Pathros in the land of Egypt, answered Jeremiah: "As for the word that you have spoken to us in the name of the LORD, we will not listen to you. But we will do everything that we have vowed, make offerings to the queen of heaven and pour out drink offerings to her, as we did, both we and our fathers, our kings and our officials, in the cities of Judah and in the streets of Jerusalem. For then we had plenty of food, and prospered, and saw no disaster. But since we left off making offerings to the queen of heaven and pouring out drink offerings to her, we have lacked everything and have been consumed by the sword and by famine." And the women said, "When we made offerings to the queen of heaven and poured out drink offerings to her, was it without our husbands' approval that we made cakes for her bearing her image and poured out drink offerings to her?"

In other words, it wasn't their brothers and husbands that the women were defying: It was God.

And now Anglican/Episcopal Church leaders want you to do the same. Defy God. Worship pagan deities. There is no other possible reading of this "Eucharistic" text.

It should be noted that the pagan rite isn't on some hidden page in the deep recesses of the Anglican/Episcopal Church's web site. The site is actually promoting this. The main pages of the web site (there are three: one for members, another for visitors, and a third for leaders) all link to an Episcopal News Service article on the "The Women's Liturgy Project." The article says, in part:

The Office of Women's Ministries is working towards creating a resource to be used by women, men, parishes, dioceses, small groups, within the context of a Sunday morning service, or any other appropriate setting where the honoring of a woman's life passages and experiences beckons a liturgical response. These can include, but are not limited to, liturgies/rites pertaining to: menstruation, menopause, conception, pregnancy, any form of pregnancy loss, childbirth, forms of leave taking, and many others. There is already a working section on the Women's Ministries website that contains worship resources that are currently available to be downloaded and used by all.

Go to that worship resources page, and there are only nine offerings, the second of which is the "Women's Eucharist." Another troubling entry is the Liturgy for Divorce, which includes this theology:

While the couple have promised in good faith to love until parted by death, in some marriages the love between a wife and a husband comes to an end sooner. Love dies, and when that happens we recognize that the bonds of marriage, based on love, also may be ended . God calls us to right relationships based on love, compassion, mutuality, and justice. Whenever any of these elements is absent from a marital relationship, then that partnership no longer reflects the intentionality of God.

Such a view of love and marriage is profoundly unbiblical, but at least there's no prayer to fertility goddesses. (Commenters over Midwest Conservative Journal are discussing both rituals.)

The Anglican Primate of Nigeria, Peter Akinola, has been explaining that the difference between his church and the Anglican/Episcopal Church USA isn't your standard intradenominational infighting. The Episcopal Church (along with other western churches, he says), isn't even Christian any more. Instead, he says, it's "embroiled in a new religion which we cannot associate ourselves with."

One would have thought that the Anglican/Episcopal Church USA might have argued whether it was really practicing a different religion. Instead, their challenge to Akinola's statement might be that it's not new at all: Their idolatry has been around since Old Testament times.

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#1. To: richard9151 (#0)

A Women's Eucharist: A Celebration of the Divine Feminine" is taken almost completely (without attribution) from a rite from Tuatha de Brighid, "a Clan of modern Druids who believe in the interconnectedness of all faiths." But who cares where it's from? Look at what it says. Here's how it begins.

Cool.

Are all the churches doing this? I'd like to attend one of these.

Minerva  posted on  2007-02-05   15:23:43 ET  Reply   Untrace   Trace   Private Reply  


#5. To: Minerva, ..., all (#1)

prayer to fertility goddesses.

Just be sure that if you do that you go to one with a prominent phallic symbol displayed. It will make your experience much, much more rewarding, I am sure.

And I am quite sure, ..., that certain types of men are not turned away.... will depend, I suspect, on how you choose to present yurself; a clean dress and shaved legs would be much preferable to other ...choices(?). Probably. Then again, fertility may not be a two way street to such women, so, beware!

richard9151  posted on  2007-02-05   15:37:38 ET  Reply   Untrace   Trace   Private Reply  


#6. To: richard9151 (#5)

And I am quite sure, ..., that certain types of men are not turned away.... will depend, I suspect, on how you choose to present yurself; a clean dress and shaved legs would be much preferable to other ...choices(?).

If they are going to be that way about it, they should start another service for the Celtic God that Corresponds to Brighid. And let everyone attend that one. They are never going to make that goofy "queers only" rule work.

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#9. To: ..., Minerva, Morgana le Fey, all (#6)

They are never going to make that goofy "queers only" rule work.

Who said it was goofy?! Any student of the history of religion can easily attest to the fact that ANY fertility worship was centered around servicing the needs of the men of the community!!

Do I have to spell out what the needs were that needed to be serviced?! And if I do, then perhaps you should look up such on the net, cause there are sites that are discussing what is needed to be done to bring US law into line with permitting donations to be made at temples which would be established to handle the trade.

So what are you.... homophobic? That the queers should not be allowed to participate in servicing the needs of the men of the community?!

Oh, and hey, you ladies out there in lala land, if you think that this non- sense in these so-called churches is, somehow, all about you.... you really have never figured men out, now have ya.

richard9151  posted on  2007-02-05   16:58:48 ET  Reply   Untrace   Trace   Private Reply  


#10. To: richard9151 (#9)

That the queers should not be allowed to participate in servicing the needs of the men of the community?!

I'm not following you. Didn't god make man in His image and likeness? If yes, then He likes "queers." Right?

Jethro Tull  posted on  2007-02-05   17:15:35 ET  Reply   Untrace   Trace   Private Reply  


#11. To: Jethro Tull (#10)

If yes, then He likes "queers." Right?

Why, Jethro, in the light of your estimed knowledge.... who would I be to doubt any statement you make?

Oh, and in case you wonder, I know how to stell esteemed.

richard9151  posted on  2007-02-05   18:13:45 ET  Reply   Untrace   Trace   Private Reply  


#12. To: richard9151 (#11)

Dick, does He like queers, yes or no?

Jethro Tull  posted on  2007-02-05   19:06:43 ET  Reply   Untrace   Trace   Private Reply  


#16. To: Jethro Tull (#12)

Dick,

Jethro, my name is Richard, OK? Not really neccessary to call me a dick....

As to what He likes, I am sure you understand, correct? I mean, you are familiar with His Law, and how His Love is Perfect, just as His Mercy is Perfect, and His Justice is Perfect, right? You do understand that when His Justice is Perfect, that it can not be mixed with His Perfect Mercy.... you get that, right? Just as all attributes of God are Perfection, and can not be mixed together; you get all of this, right?

You understand how these two Perfect attributes of God can work together, BUT, can not be mixed, right? So, then you understand your question, and know the answer, without me needing to add anything, right?

richard9151  posted on  2007-02-07   10:43:35 ET  Reply   Untrace   Trace   Private Reply  


#35. To: richard9151 (#16)

Hey Dick, homosexuality is well within the range of normal human sexuality, and the Bible is mis-interpreted regarding that aspect of human sexuality.

Homophobes violate 'God's Law' if you ant to get down to brass tacks, Oh yes as a Mike to a Dick, don't begrudge the short versuion of your name, he called you Dick, not a Dick, Dick.

Ferret Mike  posted on  2007-12-01   14:20:12 ET  Reply   Untrace   Trace   Private Reply  


#36. To: Ferret Mike (#35)

homosexuality is well within the range of normal human sexuality, and the Bible is mis-interpreted regarding that aspect of human sexuality.

Really, Mikey? Don't think so. Seems pretty clear to me.

As to why.... well, I will let you decide.

There is a doctor who was a surgeon in San Francisco when AIDS started. She has written a number of books, including; Cancer No Longer Frightens Me. And no, off hand I do not remember her name.

She wrote extensively about the problems with homosexuals in San Fran, and esp. about the well-known public sex houses known as public bath houses, which, of course, have no disappeared thanks to AIDS.

She also revealed that homos lived, on average, to 42 -- BEFORE the onset of AIDS, because of the tramua they cause in their choice of a 'hole' to use, and the passage of countless really, really bad germs and viruses from the anus to their hands, mouth, 'tool', and directly into their blood from that before mentioned trauma.

You are, I assume, aware that the anus is the outlet for the sewer pipe in your body, right? Do you drink from the toilet, or, wash your hands in the toilet? If not, then you really have no way to judge how such pratices affect homos. Because in essense, that is what they do.

Are you also aware of the man-boy love club of New York? And their continuing efforts to get the age of sexual consent lowered to 14? Or, better yet, 12? And what do you think, that the Boy Scouts of America are out of line for not permitting homosexuals access to all of the young men in Boy Scout Troops? Why do you suppose the homos are fighting to get in?

Oh, and this is just the tip of the story, so, enjoy, and read up on the subject, but from people not involved in the so-called movement; read the real facts, and not the excuses.

richard9151  posted on  2007-12-01   15:15:31 ET  Reply   Untrace   Trace   Private Reply  


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#37. To: richard9151 (#36)

Pedopilia is not homosexuality, let's stick tto the topic covered in my post. I do not like NAMBLA either, nor those who abuse young females.

The mouth is often used by heterrosexuals for oral sex, thus they are evil according to your strange and narrow perception of human sexuality.

I am not talking about your personal bigotry in my comment, I am speaking about mis-interpretting the Bible to unjustly and unfairly slam homosexuality.

I am heterosexual, but I have no problems whatsoever with homosexuality, and the Bible supports my view, not yours. Stick to that if you wish to speak about this issue. Your personal bigotries are primarily your problem, with all due respect.

Ferret Mike  posted on  2007-12-01 15:47:57 ET  Reply   Untrace   Trace   Private Reply  


#38. To: richard9151 (#36)

AIDS is a disease, and all people get it, not just homosexuals.

Giving your woman, or getting from her herpies does not mean the Goddess (I am Wiccan) hates heterosexuals, and gays with HIV are not being condemned by the Goddess for any reason relating to the disease.

I worked in an HIV hospice as a cook several years when IV drug users with whom I once planted trees with a long time contracted the disease, and I decided to volunteer to help.

Most of the people at that particular assusted living hospice had contracted HIV from IV drug use incidently, and Lesbians do not often get the disease, which also makes nonsense out of your skewed sense of logic.

What I was hoping you would get down to is to your "prooftexts" of homosexuality's condemnation.

Let me clarify the concept of "prooftexts" or isogesis. To defend their assertion that God condemns homosexuals, people always use small passages from the Bible to prove their point. Using the Bible in this manner is destructive. Instead of "exegesis" which involves examining the history of scripture to find out what it means and how it applies to us, "eisegesis" approaches scripture with a preconceived idea of what you will find there. It is abuse of scripture.

In eisegesis you search the Book until you find a passage you think applies and use it as your "proof" that God backs you up. You isolate that phrase or passage, take it out of context and improperly use it to back up your argument. It's like a friend taking a sentence or phrase out of a letter you wrote and using it to represent what you believe as a whole. It's easy to be taken out of context. You wouldn't want your views represented that way, but that's how the ideas and beliefs of the Bible's authors are presented everyday.

Give me one of your favorite particular "clobber point" from scripture, and let us go from there, okay?

Ferret Mike  posted on  2007-12-01 17:54:05 ET  Reply   Untrace   Trace   Private Reply  


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