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Title: BAC: Goldi-Lox is a Kook!
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URL Source: http://www.libertypost.org/cgi-bin/ ... i?ArtNum=175627&Disp=All&#C185
Published: Feb 6, 2007
Author: BAC
Post Date: 2007-02-06 11:38:51 by BAC
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#52. To: BAC (#0)
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Here is the actual ban notice to BeAChooser: 293. To: BeAChooser (#235) Okay that's IT!! Your actions here can be categorized as clearly disruptive. Disruptive to this thread and disruptive to it's important message Disruptive to everyone of those who are working to get info out that is critical for this nation. And frankly...I've had enough. As has everyone else on this board. SO, You are ... Take your crap and post it someplace else. I'm classifying you now as a disruptor. You are BANNED!!! Goldi-Lox posted on 2007-02-06 11:12:05 ET Reply Trace
Hello everyone! In my first post here at Freedom4um, I wish to set the record straight regarding my recent banning at LibertyPost by that forum's owner. Post #293 of the following LP thread, http://www.libertypost.org/cgi-bin/readart.cgi?ArtNum=175627&Disp=327#C327, is where Goldi-Lox kicked me off her forum. She stated I was "disruptive" to the thread (and it's "important message"). Her banning post was a response to a post I made to samcgwire. Goldi deleted, in its entirety, the post I made to samcgwire (#235), calling my post "UNCIVIL". Now you can decide for yourself whether I was disruptive (at least, any more so than scores of other folks have been on thousand other threads at LP). Before you do that, however, keep in mind that she responded to a post I'd made nearly 12 hours earlier, and between that time and her post, I posted nothing further to the thread (and there were another 60 posts added by then). I'd hardly characterize that the massive disruption she claimed it to be. And my response was a response to a very hostile post directed at me. Was I supposed to be the only one at LP to just turn the other cheek? Just as I was the only one not allowed to post the word KOOK? Furthermore, to single me out and ignore countless other examples of folks disrupting the forum in other threads says, I think, something about the consistency of Goldi's management of the forum. Many of these other cases have been pointed out to her (not just by me) and she took no action. So perhaps my banning just shows that only HER "issues" matter at LP. LP'ers take note. But that's ok. She is the owner and can do what she wants. And a final bit of irony. Note that the assertion being made in the thread by Goldi and others apparently turned out to be more hysteria and rumor, than actual fact. I'm not saying those in Washington aren't above trying to slip something by us, but in this case it appears her concerns were a little overblown. But that's ok. She is the owner and can do what she wants. Goldi-Lox chose to ban me ... permanently ... and without a real warning ... but that is her right as forum owner. She can do what she wants. So here I am, on Freedom4um. The same is true of this forum's owners. Should they decide I'm no longer welcome, they can ban me and I will make no effort to return. And for the record I have not posted at FR since Jim tossed me nor have I posted (or will I) at LP (unless, of course, invited to do so by Goldi). But, I do intend to give this forum's owner no legitimate cause to cancel my access. More on that later. First, I do feel that Goldi's pulling my comment #235 and labeling it UNCIVIL is a naked effort to hide the hypocrisy of her own actions. So here are the facts regarding that deleted post (and you know how I love facts). My post (#235) was a response to this post by samcgwire: **************** 228. To: BeAChooser (#218) Quite honestly, you Quisling POS. I hope you freaking choke on yourself. This might be my last night on LP. Chooser, you and everyone like you will hang before this is over. You sorry SOB. You can't cover for the treasonous bastards any longer. The jig is up. Game over. It's time for all quislings to pay the fiddler and start to reap the whirlwind. You and your ilk have done enough damage. samcgwire posted on 2007-02-05 21:07:36 ET Reply Trace ******************** To samcgwire's statement "Quite honestly, you Quisling POS. I hope you freaking choke on yourself.", I wrote (in #235) "What a civil, family oriented forum." How can Goldi find that comment uncivil, yet not consider calling someone a "POS" and an "SOB" uncivil? Does she not know what POS and SOB stand for? Or are they okay because they are abbreviations of foul language? And she must think that a death wish is civil, too. I hardly see the logic in that. But it's her forum. Next, in response to samcgwire's statement "This might be my last night on LP", I wrote "Why? You folks own this forum. I'm one little voice. What do you fear?" Again, does Goldi think that's being uncivil? There's no foul language. No labels. Just the simple truth. Folks like samcgwire do seem to dominate her forum. And I was just one little voice of rationality (IMO). What did she fear? Finally, in response to what I perceive to be a highly uncivil death threat, "Chooser, you and everyone like you will hang before this is over", I wrote "This is the sort of person you are associating yourself with, Goldi." I see nothing uncivil in that observation, either. And it was the truth. She was associating herself with that individual. Later, she even went out of her way in the thread to tell samcgwire to not quit the forum but just take some time off and come back. And samcgwire wasn't the only problematic individual she was chummy with in that thread. In my opinion. So here was a thread with it's very important topic (and I do think stopping illegal immigration is important) and Goldi willingly associates herself and the topic with an extremist who utters death threats and foul language at the drop of a hat, and others who I had shown (on other threads Goldi was pinged to) have a propensity for lying. I warned her in two emails after my banning that such associations are not going to get her views about this issue any favorable response from anyone who matters. Nor is allowing liars to corrupt a forum going to do that. My emails to her said quite a bit about the topic of liars. She ignores what I said at the risk of her own forum's future. But then it is her forum and I'll say no more on that matter unless asked to do so by her. I'm not holding my breath. Now, as to my presence on THIS forum, I'd going to try something different. I will not be calling anyone any names or labels (you know ... kook, liar, 5th Columnist, anti-American). No matter what you call me or uncivility you post to me. I won't bozo you (don't believe in that). I'm simply going to turn the other cheek. And we will see who comes out looking the worse in the long run. I'm also not going to engage in long debates, taking apart posts line by line. But I will be posting linked sources that will allow any open minded visitor to FD4UM to see that a claim made by a poster or a claim made in an article is false. They can draw their own conclusion from that. One last comment. I appreciate this forum's owners giving me the opportunity to join, despite our past differences. I sure this will be interesting. Now let the games begin ...
Are you going to replace Ponchy as the site Kook?
blue ink causes cancer
Put me down for twenty bucks on McGwire. I think some internutter is gonna end up crying like a schoolgirl & pissin' themself.
Ok, you're a pissant, where's my $20? Want to buy a wagon?
Can you play the lead guitar part for Secret Agent Man on a violin?
-- David Hasselhoff "Secret Agent Man"
i don't even know what to say. :P
GOLDI SINGS: "Amazing Grace." 293. To: BeAChooser (#235) Okay that's IT!! Your actions here can be categorized as clearly disruptive. Disruptive to this thread and disruptive to it's important message Disruptive to everyone of those who are working to get info out that is critical for this nation. And frankly...I've had enough. As has everyone else on this board. SO, You are ... TOTALLY AND FOREVER OUTTA HERE!!! Take your crap and post it someplace else. I'm classifying you now as a disruptor. You are BANNED!!! Goldi-Lox posted on 2007-02-06 11:12:05 ET Reply Trace
I came over here after Goldi-Rob gave me a 2 week "timeout" for posting a video link from http://antiwar.com in the "Breaking News." I'd have to say that current information from a website with hundreds of thousands of page views certainly qualifies as "News." She's clearly annoyed by certain posters views, but does seem to make some slight effort to tolerate them. But it's a lot of work for her, and shouldn't have to be...
Goldi is a freeper who just fell out on the current freeper orthodoxy - like when 2 commies disagree one being Stalinist the other Trotskyite. As the immigration issue dies - and it will die - especially since the immigration foes have started to sound like the 'Rum, Romany and Revolution' anti Irish-Catholic bigots of a hundred years ago - so will her website die. This website is not much better sadly in that it also seeks to narrow focus views rather than expand them and reach consensus.
We live in a world of clever and methodically manufactured consensus - ala Effer & ElPee. If there's any true consensus - of any kind - on this forum, it goes to the legacy of the inside-job of 9-11. This forum is everything that Effer & ElPee claimed to be - then methodically betrayed. Sure, this forum has a narrow focus on the truth - as God knows it. I hope no one has any objections there.
Sure, this forum has a narrow focus on the truth - as God knows it. I hope no one has any objections there. Well said Sky. There can be no consensus on a "wide" view of the Truth, for it then becomes something other than truth. The Truth is as it is. It is the job of all writers and scientists to start WIDE and to gradually NARROW their thoughts and mental focus until the essay or hypothesis is refined, and the Truth is discovered...not the other way around. Songs, essays, persuasive writing, the scientific method...all begin as vague and all encompassing and gradually reveal their truths through elimination and eventual specificity.
The Truth is really quite a simple thing. It is the exact time, place, form, and event. Any alteration to any one of those four elements is an alteration of the i.e., it is a lie. Having said that the truth can sometimes be an elusive critter. It is not that it is not possible to know it but that it can be obscured or less than obvious on a first glance. So, to find it we do have to narrow it to the simplicity i.e., that which is the exact time, place, form, and event; nothing more, and nothing less.
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#75. To: Coral Snake, MUDBOY, samcgwire, Goldi-Lox, aristeides, Fred Mertz, christine, FormerLurker, Destro, HOUNDDAWG, honway, scrapper2, SKYDRIFTER, orangedog, angle, Dakmar, BTP Holdings, Flintlock, RickyJ, Diana, BAC, ALL (#52)
#78. To: BeAChooser (#75)
#79. To: Minerva (#78)
#82. To: Dakmar (#79)
#85. To: Esso (#82)
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Put me down for twenty bucks
#87. To: Dakmar (#85)
#89. To: Minerva (#87)
#101. To: Ferret Mike (#89)
#102. To: Christine, Brian S, Honway, Robin, Aristeides, Red Jones, Diana, Kamala, All (#101)
#105. To: SKYDRIFTER, Destro (#102)
#108. To: AGAviator, SKYDRIFTER (#105)
#165. To: Destro, Christine, Brian S, Honway, Robin, Aristeides, Red Jones, Diana, Kamala, All (#108)
This website is not much better sadly in that it also seeks to narrow focus views rather than expand them and reach consensus.
#168. To: SKYDRIFTER, ALL, DESTRO (#165)
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it also seeks to narrow focus views rather than expand them and reach consensus.
#180. To: IndieTX, SKYDRIFTER, Destro, all (#168)
There can be no consensus on a "wide" view of the Truth, for it then becomes something other than truth. The Truth is as it is. It is the job of all writers and scientists to start WIDE and to gradually NARROW their thoughts and mental focus until the essay or hypothesis is refined, and the Truth is discovered...not the other way around. Songs, essays, persuasive writing, the scientific method...all begin as vague and all encompassing and gradually reveal their truths through elimination and eventual specificity.
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