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Title: BAC: Goldi-Lox is a Kook!
Source: LP
URL Source: http://www.libertypost.org/cgi-bin/ ... i?ArtNum=175627&Disp=All&#C185
Published: Feb 6, 2007
Author: BAC
Post Date: 2007-02-06 11:38:51 by BAC
Keywords: None
Views: 17289
Comments: 199

ROTFLOL!

Clintonistas!

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#1. To: BAC (#0)

There's a claim on this thread, http://www.libertypost.org/cgi- bin/readart.cgi?ArtNum=175794&Disp=14#C14, that Goldi just banned BAC.

aristeides posted on 2007-02-06 11:54:41 ET Reply Untrace Trace Private Reply

#2. To: aristeides (#1)

As much as I find BAC annoying, he backs up most of his points of view with (goobermint) documentation. I rarely read his lengthy posts but I don't think he deserves banning. A timeout might be the appropriate measure of discipline.

Fred Mertz posted on 2007-02-06 12:25:31 ET Reply Untrace Trace Private Reply

#13. To: Fred Mertz (#2)

As much as I find BAC annoying, he backs up most of his points of view with (goobermint) documentation.

I am not sure my opinion counts for much,since I was banned from LP,but here it is. Any genuine search for the truth benefits from honest debate from people of different view points.
Early on in the threads concerning 9/11, BAC contributed to many 9/11 threads by challenging what frankly needed to be challenged.

However,as BAC saw the tide of public opinion being turned by the obvious U.S. government cover-up of important events concerning 9/11 like Able Danger, he abandoned any pretense of objectivity or honesty and assumed the position that his ends justified the means.

Near the end of my participation there it appeared the fact that poll after poll indicated the American people were rejecting the Bush Administration lies concerning 9/11 was taking a serious emotional toll on him.

I have great respect for all people and their opinions who are genuinely interested in the truth. There was no room for truth concerning the Bush Administration and 9/11 in BAC's agenda.

honway posted on 2007-02-06 14:05:42 ET Reply Untrace Trace Private Reply

#21. To: honway (#13)

Hey BTW honway, did you know that Ooser was accusing you and I of plotting against him, in that he was accusing a new poster TwentyTwelve, of being you, and found it strange that I was posting on LP a day after TwentyTwelve signed up?

He must have pinged Goldi at least 20 times with those suspicions..

What a KOOK!! ROTFLOL!!

FormerLurker posted on 2007-02-06 16:49:37 ET Reply Untrace Trace Private Reply

#24. To: FormerLurker (#21)

Hey BTW honway, did you know that Ooser was accusing you and I of plotting against him, in that he was accusing a new poster TwentyTwelve, of being you, and found it strange that I was posting on LP a day after TwentyTwelve signed up?

That is bizarre and confirmation of his deteriorating mental state.

I have never posted on LP under any name other than honway and never will.

I have a great deal of information archived on LP concerning the WTC 1993 bombing, the OKC bombing and 9/11 and would not risk that being pulled by trying to bypass a banning by the webmaster.

honway posted on 2007-02-06 17:28:29 ET Reply Untrace Trace Private Reply

#27. To: honway (#24)

I have a great deal of information archived on LP concerning the WTC 1993 bombing, the OKC bombing and 9/11 and would not risk that being pulled by trying to bypass a banning by the webmaster.

That's probably one of the reasons why he made the accusation, to see if he could trick Goldi into doing something extreme. Although it's never good to see someone get banned, I think in his case, it was for the best.

He was determined to intimidate and badger anyone not falling into line with his "official view", and if someone was a bit more than he could personally handle, he'd cry to Goldi with all sorts of wild stories and accusations.

Unfortunately for him, he pulled his crap at the wrong time, on the wrong thread, trying to silence a few people who had just recently opened their eyes concerning 9/11, who were talking about the amnesty provision in the minimum wage bill.

He got his ass whooped by the posters for one, and Goldi had already told him several times to cut the crap, she wasn't interested. But he persisted...

Oh well, as already mentioned, he'll probably ooze his way back, if he's not already there as someone else. He'll just have to watch the words KOOK and ROTFLOL!...

FormerLurker posted on 2007-02-06 17:38:18 ET Reply Untrace Trace Private Reply

#28. To: FormerLurker (#27)

Oh well, as already mentioned, he'll probably ooze his way back, if he's not already there as someone else.

He spent years establishing the screen name persona of BeAChooser. And now those many hours,weeks,months and even years are gone. Wasted.He can't show up anywhere with that screen name again. That has got to be difficult.

honway posted on 2007-02-06 17:52:36 ET Reply Untrace Trace Private Reply

#31. To: honway (#28)

He spent years establishing the screen name persona of BeAChooser.

He, or they?

aristeides posted on 2007-02-06 19:04:07 ET Reply Untrace Trace Private Reply

#32. To: aristeides, honway, Former Lurker (#31)

honway: He spent years establishing the screen name persona of BeAChooser.
aristeides: He, or they?

He, they, whatever - BAC has been quite successful in deflecting everyone's attention on this forum at least from the issue that might be more worthy of discussion ie. the amnesty bill hidden in the minimum wage pending legislation and the ramifications.

Doesn't anyone at 4um care about that issue and what if anything can be done to stop it from becoming law?

Maybe it's because I don't share a common history with you guys and BAC - but honestly if he's as much of a gov't shill as you describe him to be - why waste your energy on the guy? I don't get it.

Goldi seems to have been right to bounce him and she seems right to focus everyone's energies at LP discussing the amnesty leg. Perhaps that's something we should do here too, do you think???

scrapper2 posted on 2007-02-06 19:25:20 ET Reply Untrace Trace Private Reply

#37. To: scrapper2 (#32)

He, they, whatever - BAC has been quite successful in deflecting everyone's attention on this forum at least from the issue that might be more worthy of discussion ie. the amnesty bill hidden in the minimum wage pending legislation and the ramifications.
Doesn't anyone at 4um care about that issue and what if anything can be done to stop it from becoming law?

Could you cut and paste the specific language in the pending legislation that discusses amnesty to a reply on this thread? Thanks.

honway posted on 2007-02-06 20:46:31 ET Reply Untrace Trace Private Reply

#54. To: honway, scrapper2, christine (#37)

I located the following info by looking up Secure America and Orderly Immigration Act with Google, then correlating the appropriate section with Senate Amendment 187, HR.2, that I found on Thomas.

In the PROPOSED McCain Kennedy Secure America and Orderly Immigration Act, the text reads as follows;

From Summary of the Secure America and Orderly Immigration Act

TITLE VII – H-5B Non-Immigrants

Title VII creates a new H-5B non-immigrant visa that is open to people in the US residing illegally in the US before the date SAOIA was introduced in May 2005. Applicants must have resided continuously since that time.
Spouses and children are eligible and certain ex-spouses are eligible in cases of domestic violence.
Grounds of inadmissibility tied to being out of status on the date SAOIA was introduced are waived, but not criminal and security inadmissibility grounds.
DHS may waive inadmissibility grounds for humanitarian, public interest or family unity reasons.
Applicants must show that they were employed in the US full time, part time, seasonally or were self- employed before the date SAOIA was introduced and have been in the US since that date. Evidence of employment can be made by presenting documentation from the Social Security Administration, IRS, or any other government agency. Also, documentation from employers, unions, work centers may be presented. Workers unable to show this evidence can present two other types of evidence including bank records, business records, affidavits, or remittance records. SAOIA directs DHS to interpret this section liberally given the difficulties encountered by aliens in obtaining evidence of employment due to the undocumented status of the alien. The requirement will be met if the alien has produced “sufficient evidence to demonstrate such employment as a matter of reasonable inference.”
The employment requirement does not apply to people under twenty-one and people attending school.
H-5B applicants must provide fingerprints and additional information in order to conduct a background check. Background checks are to be conducted expeditiously.
H-5Bs are authorized for up to six years of H-5B non-immigrant status. Changes of status to other non- immigrant classifications are not permitted until the six year period is over.
H-5Bs must pay a penalty fee of $1000 unless they are under the age of twenty-one.
H-5Bs, their spouse and children shall be granted employment authorization and the right to travel while the H-5B application is pending and may not be detained pending final adjudication of the petition unless there is a criminal history.
Applicants apprehended after SAOIA is enacted but before regulations are issued shall be permitted to file for an H-5B after regulations are promulgated. People in removal proceedings will also have an opportunity to apply for an H-5B unless a final administrative determination has been made. Applicants in the US who have been ordered removed or issued a voluntary departure order may still apply for an H- 5B and need not file a motion to reopen, reconsider, or vacate the prior order. If the H-5B is not granted, the original order shall still be effective and enforceable as if the H-5B application had not been made.
USCIS will provide a single level of administrative appellate review authority for denied H-5B applicants. Federal courts will be allowed to review denials based on the administrative record established at the time of the review.
SAOIA guarantees the confidentiality of information provided in H-5B applications and limits disclosure of information to anyone other than the officers and employees of USCIS reviewing the application. Exceptions are provided for criminal or national security investigations. Privacy violations can be penalized by a fine of up to $10,000.
People who file or assist others in filing applications containing false or fraudulent statement or representations shall be subject to fines and/or imprisonment for up to five years as well as a lifetime bar on entry. However, anyone submitting an employment record that contains incorrect data used to verify prior employment shall not be considered to be in violation of this section of SAOIA.
H-5Bs can adjust to permanent residency if they meet the following requirements:
- The applicant has been employed in the US during the required period.
- A penalty of $1000 is paid (that is in addition to the $1000 paid to get the H-5B visa).
- The applicant is not inadmissible under any ground that would cause the applicant to be ineligible for the original H-5B.
- The applicant has taken a conforming medical examination.
- The applicant has paid all takes during the requisite employment period.
- The applicant can meet the naturalization civics and English test or is pursuing a course of study to achieve such an understanding of English and civics. Applicants who can show they can meet these naturalization requirements need not do so again later during the naturalization process.
- The applicant passes a new criminal and security background check.
- The applicant has complied with draft registration requirements.
- Spouses and children are eligible to adjust with the principal applicant. An applicant no longer living with the principal applicant because of domestic violence may still be able to qualify.
The number of H-5Bs eligible to adjust to permanent residency is not capped.
Employers of H-5B applicants are protected from civil and criminal tax liability relating to the employment of the applicant prior to the applicant receiving employment authorization under the H-5B program. But employers are not insulated from liability relating to violating other labor or employment laws.
SAOIA provides for necessary funding to be appropriated to implement this program.

Whereas what Congress actually passed is as follows;

From TEXT OF AMENDMENTS -- (Senate - January 24, 2007)

   ``Sec..250A..H- 5B nonimmigrants.''.
   SEC. 1702. ADJUSTMENT OF STATUS FOR H- 5B NONIMMIGRANTS.
    (a) In General.--Chapter 5 of title II of the Immigration and Nationality Act (8 U.S.C. 1255 et seq.) is amended by inserting after section 245A the following:
   ``ADJUSTMENT OF STATUS OF FORMER H-5B NONIMMIGRANT TO THAT OF PERSON ADMITTED FOR LAWFUL PERMANENT RESIDENCE
    ``Sec. 245B. (a) Requirements.- -The Secretary shall adjust the status of an alien from nonimmigrant status under section 101(a)(15)(H)(v)(b) to that of an alien lawfully admitted for permanent residence under this section if the alien satisfies the following requirements:
    ``(1) COMPLETION OF EMPLOYMENT OR EDUCATION REQUIREMENT.--The alien establishes that the alien has been employed in the United States, either full time, part time, seasonally, or self- employed, or has met the education requirements of subsection (f) or (g) of section 250A during the period required by section 250A (e).
    ``(2) RULEMAKING.--The Secretary shall establish regulations for the timely filing and processing of applications for adjustment of status for nonimmigrants under section 101(a)(15)(H)(v) (b).
    ``(3) APPLICATION AND FEE.--The alien who applies for adjustment of status under this section shall pay the following:
    ``(A) APPLICATION FEE.--An alien who files an application under section 245B of the Immigration and Nationality Act, shall pay an application fee, set by the Secretary.
    ``(B) ADDITIONAL FINE.--Before the adjudication of an application for adjustment of status filed under this section, an alien who is at least 21 years of age shall pay a fine of $1,000.
    ``(4) ADMISSIBLE UNDER IMMIGRATION LAWS.--The alien establishes that the alien is not inadmissible under section 212(a), except for any provision of that section that is not applicable or waived under section 250A(d) (2).
    ``(5) MEDICAL EXAMINATION.--The alien shall undergo, at the alien's expense, an appropriate medical examination (including a determination of immunization status) that conforms to generally accepted professional standards of medical practice.
    ``(6) PAYMENT OF INCOME TAXES.--
    ``(A) IN GENERAL.- -Not later than the date on which status is adjusted under this section, the alien shall establish the payment of all Federal income taxes owed for employment during the period of employment required by section 250A(e) by establishing that--
    ``(i) no such tax liability exists;
    ``(ii) all outstanding liabilities have been met; or
    ``(iii) the alien has entered into an agreement for payment of all outstanding liabilities with the Internal Revenue Service.
    ``(B) IRS COOPERATION.--The Commissioner of Internal Revenue shall provide documentation to an alien upon request to establish the payment of all income taxes required by this paragraph.
    ``(7) BASIC CITIZENSHIP SKILLS.--
    ``(A) IN GENERAL.--Except as provided in subparagraph (B), the alien shall establish that the alien--
    ``(i) meets the requirements of section 312; or
    ``(ii) is satisfactorily pursuing a course of study to achieve such an understanding of English and knowledge and understanding of the history and government of the United States.
    ``(B) RELATION TO NATURALIZATION EXAMINATION.--An alien who demonstrates that the alien meets the requirements of section 312 may be considered to have satisfied the requirements of that section for purposes of becoming naturalized as a citizen of the United States under title III.
    ``(8) SECURITY AND LAW ENFORCEMENT BACKGROUND CHECKS.--The Secretary shall conduct a security and law enforcement background check in accordance with procedures described in section 250A(h).
    ``(9) MILITARY SELECTIVE SERVICE.--The alien shall establish that if the alien is within the age period required under the Military Selective Service Act (50 U.S.C. App. 451 et seq.), that such alien has registered under that Act.
    ``(b) Treatment of Spouses and Children.--
    ``(1) ADJUSTMENT OF STATUS.--Notwithstanding any other provision of law, the Secretary of Homeland Security shall--
    ``(A) adjust the status to that of a lawful permanent resident under this section, or provide an immigrant visa to the spouse or child of an alien who adjusts status to that of a permanent resident under this section; or
    ``(B) adjust the status to that of a lawful permanent resident under this section for an alien who was the spouse or child of an alien who adjusts status or is eligible to adjust status to that of a permanent resident under section 245B in accordance with subsection (a), if--
    ``(i) the termination of the qualifying relationship was connected to domestic violence; and
    ``(ii) the spouse or child has been battered or subjected to extreme cruelty by the spouse or parent who adjusts status to that of a permanent resident under this section.
    ``(2) APPLICATION OF OTHER LAW.--In acting on applications filed under this subsection with respect to aliens who have been battered or subjected to extreme cruelty, the Secretary of Homeland Security shall apply the provisions of section 204(a)(1)(J) and the protections, prohibitions, and penalties under section 384 of the Illegal Immigration Reform and Immigrant Responsibility Act of 1996 (8 U.S.C. 1367).
    ``(c) Judicial Review; Confidentiality; Penalties.--Subsections (n), (o), and (p) of section 250A shall apply to this section.''.
    (b) Clerical Amendment.--The table of contents for the Immigration and Nationality Act (8 U.S.C. 1101 et seq.) is amended by inserting after the item relating to section 245A the following:
   ``Sec..245B..Adjustment of status of former H- 5B nonimmigrant to that of person admitted for lawful permanent residence.''.

FormerLurker posted on 2007-02-06 23:21:41 ET Reply Untrace Trace Private Reply

#56. To: FormerLurker, scrapper2, wake up (#54)

good lord, my head is spinning. i mean no offense, but it seems to me that this is minutiae at this point. one need only look at the large picture--the plan for the North American Union--this is what americans need to be made aware of. do you realize how few even know of its existence? how many politicians do you hear talking about it? any other than Ron Paul? the reason? it's because they all support it. look how many of them are CFR! and you all think writing to any of these traitors is going to do a thing? if they intended to do anything, the borders would have been secured and CLOSED years ago. no, the solution to this is not working within the 'political' system. they are the enemy of we the people. imo, our activism efforts should be educating as many people as we can. bring them here to get the information. post and send articles and google videos to your email list. make copies of DVDs as wake up does and pass them around everywhere you go and tell them about alternative media like RBN and GCN!

christine posted on 2007-02-06 23:54:57 ET Reply Untrace Trace Private Reply

#58. To: christine (#56)

maybe just unnatural acts, but that might be too easy. he seems to be inclined that way already.

Morgana le Fay posted on 2007-02-07 0:18:48 ET Reply Untrace Trace Private Reply

#60. To: Morgana le Fay (#58)

The same people who cured Ted Haggard of lusting after assholes might be able to cure Ponchy of being an asshole.

Minerva posted on 2007-02-07 0:32:56 ET Reply Untrace Trace Private Reply

#62. To: Minerva (#60)

ponchy isn't much interested in self help that he can't drink.

Morgana le Fay posted on 2007-02-07 0:34:57 ET Reply Untrace Trace Private Reply

#150. To: Morgana le Fay (#62)

We can go visit Ponchy now. I think he is "Savrola" over on Speakeasy. Look what he wrote in his bio:

"Savrola is a broken-down, drunken, bronc-rider, farrier, welder, construction-worker, hack-writer, sometime venture-capitalist and constant gardner. He resides high in the Ozark Mountains of Southern Missouri with his horses, dogs, guns, goats and a retarded young houseboy he imported from Bangkok. He is the off-again, on-again life partner of YertleTurtle.

He is the sworn enemy of Reichsjager.

Retrieved from "http://editthis.info/speakeasy/Savrola"

Minerva posted on 2007-02-11 12:41:32 ET Reply Untrace Trace Private Reply

#183. To: Minerva, YertleTurtle (#150)

He resides high in the Ozark Mountains of Southern Missouri with his horses, dogs, guns, goats and a retarded young houseboy he imported from Bangkok. He is the off-again, on-again life partner of YertleTurtle.

!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

Diana posted on 2007-02-12 4:00:12 ET Reply Untrace Trace Private Reply

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#188. To: Diana (#183)

He resides high in the Ozark Mountains of Southern Missouri with his horses, dogs, guns, goats and a retarded young houseboy he imported from Bangkok. He is the off-again, on-again life partner of YertleTurtle.

I am like so creeped out.

YertleTurtle posted on 2007-02-12 05:05:40 ET Reply Untrace Trace Private Reply

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