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Title: BAC: Goldi-Lox is a Kook!
Source: LP
URL Source: http://www.libertypost.org/cgi-bin/ ... i?ArtNum=175627&Disp=All&#C185
Published: Feb 6, 2007
Author: BAC
Post Date: 2007-02-06 11:38:51 by BAC
Keywords: None
Views: 16948
Comments: 199

ROTFLOL!

Clintonistas!

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#1. To: BAC (#0)

There's a claim on this thread, http://www.libertypost.org/cgi- bin/readart.cgi?ArtNum=175794&Disp=14#C14, that Goldi just banned BAC.

Katrina was America's Chernobyl.

aristeides  posted on  2007-02-06   11:54:41 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#2. To: aristeides (#1)

As much as I find BAC annoying, he backs up most of his points of view with (goobermint) documentation. I rarely read his lengthy posts but I don't think he deserves banning. A timeout might be the appropriate measure of discipline.

Fred Mertz  posted on  2007-02-06   12:25:31 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#3. To: aristeides (#1)

There's a claim on this thread that Goldi just banned BAC.

Her loss is your gain. Guess I'll be posting here full time.

ROTFLOL!

KOOKS!

Clintonistas!

BAC  posted on  2007-02-06   12:26:52 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#4. To: SKYDRIFTER (#0)

fyi

christine  posted on  2007-02-06   12:29:03 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#5. To: All (#0)

ROTFLOL!!

BAC  posted on  2007-02-06   12:52:07 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#6. To: aristeides (#1) (Edited)

There's a claim on this thread, http://www.libertypost.org/cgi- bin/readart.cgi?ArtNum=175794&Disp=14#C14, that Goldi just banned BAC.

Poor Ooser got himself banned. Tsk tsk.

TOTALLY AND FOREVER OUTTA HERE!!!


You appear to be a major trouble maker...and I'm getting really pissed. - GoldiLox, 7/27/2006

FormerLurker  posted on  2007-02-06   12:57:40 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#7. To: Fred Mertz, Uncle Bill, Bill D Berger, malador, christine (#2)

As much as I find BAC annoying, he backs up most of his points of view with (goobermint) documentation. I rarely read his lengthy posts but I don't think he deserves banning. A timeout might be the appropriate measure of discipline.

He brought his fate upon himself, as he was demanding that Goldi "do something" about "KOOKS" like Uncle Bill, myself, and others, who were "destroying the credibility of her forum". He finally hit the wrong button one too many times, and he got what he was asking for.


You appear to be a major trouble maker...and I'm getting really pissed. - GoldiLox, 7/27/2006

FormerLurker  posted on  2007-02-06   13:01:29 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#8. To: FormerLurker (#7)

Like I said, I rarely read his posts so I'll take your word for it.

Fred Mertz  posted on  2007-02-06   13:05:29 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#9. To: Fred Mertz (#2)

As much as I find BAC annoying, he backs up most of his points of view with (goobermint) documentation. I rarely read his lengthy posts but I don't think he deserves banning. A timeout might be the appropriate measure of discipline.

Goldie is only a two issue person -she afraid the border crossing darkies will rape her (which is also her hottest fantasy no doubt) and support for the Neocon middle east agenda.

"The desire to rule is the mother of heresies." -- St. John Chrysostom

Destro  posted on  2007-02-06   13:09:50 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#10. To: All (#6)

BTW, I messed up the link at first, but I just edited the post and fixed it. Edit is a nice feature to have..


You appear to be a major trouble maker...and I'm getting really pissed. - GoldiLox, 7/27/2006

FormerLurker  posted on  2007-02-06   13:18:29 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#11. To: BAC (#3)

Her loss is your gain. Guess I'll be posting here full time.

Oh lucky us!

You want to censor those folks who challenge the official fairie tale.

Answer two questions, will you?

Do you believe the govt told us the truth, the whole truth and nothing but the truth about 9/11?

Does BushCo tell the truth for its own sake or, only if the truth serves their purposes better than lies?

If you tell me that the govt was completely forthcoming with the facts, and that BushCo cannot tell a lie, then that will reveal more than enough about you and I'll have no reason to ask anything else.

HOUNDDAWG  posted on  2007-02-06   13:26:40 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#12. To: FormerLurker (#7)

guess he'll oose himself back on over to FR aka GoPville.

christine  posted on  2007-02-06   13:37:47 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#13. To: Fred Mertz (#2)

As much as I find BAC annoying, he backs up most of his points of view with (goobermint) documentation.

I am not sure my opinion counts for much,since I was banned from LP,but here it is. Any genuine search for the truth benefits from honest debate from people of different view points.
Early on in the threads concerning 9/11, BAC contributed to many 9/11 threads by challenging what frankly needed to be challenged.

However,as BAC saw the tide of public opinion being turned by the obvious U.S. government cover-up of important events concerning 9/11 like Able Danger, he abandoned any pretense of objectivity or honesty and assumed the position that his ends justified the means.

Near the end of my participation there it appeared the fact that poll after poll indicated the American people were rejecting the Bush Administration lies concerning 9/11 was taking a serious emotional toll on him.

I have great respect for all people and their opinions who are genuinely interested in the truth. There was no room for truth concerning the Bush Administration and 9/11 in BAC's agenda.

honway  posted on  2007-02-06   14:05:42 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#14. To: All (#13)

I will add one other comment. Fortunately for BeAChooser and his ilk, I don't decide where individuals that sell their souls to defend participants in a conspiracy to commit mass murder spend eternity.

honway  posted on  2007-02-06   14:16:41 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#15. To: Destro, christine, robin, Brian S, All (#9)

Goldie is only a two issue person -she afraid the border crossing darkies will rape her (which is also her hottest fantasy no doubt) and

Hey you guys, did you read the contents of the thread wherein BAC got bounced? I think Goldi and LP are onto something important and that's why BAC trying to get them off point was so distracting.

Actually it might not hurt for a similar thread to be started here.

What I could gather from the thread is that the foxy congresscritters tried to introduce new immigration legislation hidden in the minimum wage hike law.

This is a very BIG change. The Secretary of State (????) may be given authority to develop a guest worker plan, and quotas will be based on percentages of WORLD WIDE levels. What the heck is that ???

It's all included in SB 1097. You may need to cut and paste the following url.

http://frwebgate.access.gpo.gov/cgi-bin/getpage.cgi? dbname=2007_record&page=S1097&position=all

I think this may mean the USA will be flooded with low skill labor, which is exactly what we don't need what with our nation's entitlement programs and also these low skilled immigrants will not help America be competitive in a high tech world.

And there's also SB 1091

http://frwebgate.access.gpo.gov/cgi-bin/getpage.cgi? dbname=2007_record&page=S1091&position=all

Here's the whole thread:

http://www.libertypost.org/cgi-bin/readart.cgi? ArtNum=175627&Disp=49#C36

scrapper2  posted on  2007-02-06   14:33:08 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#16. To: scrapper2 (#15)

http://www.ssa.gov/pressoffice/factsheets/USandMexico.htm

UNITED STATES/MEXICO TOTALIZATION AGREEMENT

Looks like this is part of the proposed law.

honway  posted on  2007-02-06   14:47:03 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#17. To: Christine, Brian S, Honway, Robin, Aristeides, Red Jones, Diana, Kamala, All (#4)


I get the image of BAC & Goldi doing a 69er with bared fangs.

AND - you know I love it!

"ROFL" - as BAC would say!

Thanks!


SKYDRIFTER  posted on  2007-02-06   14:59:16 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#18. To: christine (#12)

guess he'll oose himself back on over to FR aka GoPville.

Well if JimRob doesn't pat his little head and reinstate him, perhaps the Clowns will welcome him as their own.

Then again, perhaps he already IS a Clown..

..or, he'll just ooze back as some other anonymous poster. He'll be forever trying to keep himself from ROTFLOL while screeching KOOK though.

Poor BAC, he finally did himself in.


You appear to be a major trouble maker...and I'm getting really pissed. - GoldiLox, 7/27/2006

FormerLurker  posted on  2007-02-06   16:40:50 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#19. To: honway (#13)

Near the end of my participation there it appeared the fact that poll after poll indicated the American people were rejecting the Bush Administration lies concerning 9/11 was taking a serious emotional toll on him.

As much as he liked to hurl the word KOOK at people he accused of being nuts, he actually became a REAL KOOK that was genuinely NUTS.

Tsk, tsk. We'll miss the hearty ROTFLOL! after a round or two of his KOOK talk.


You appear to be a major trouble maker...and I'm getting really pissed. - GoldiLox, 7/27/2006

FormerLurker  posted on  2007-02-06   16:45:52 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#20. To: SKYDRIFTER (#17)

I get the image of BAC & Goldi doing a 69er...

Thanks, now I don't have to worry about what to have for dinner. I won't be able to eat for a day after getting that mental picture.

"First I'm gonna bother everybody I meet, and then I'll probably go home and get drunk."

orangedog  posted on  2007-02-06   16:48:09 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#21. To: honway (#13)

Hey BTW honway, did you know that Ooser was accusing you and I of plotting against him, in that he was accusing a new poster TwentyTwelve, of being you, and found it strange that I was posting on LP a day after TwentyTwelve signed up?

He must have pinged Goldi at least 20 times with those suspicions..

What a KOOK!! ROTFLOL!!


You appear to be a major trouble maker...and I'm getting really pissed. - GoldiLox, 7/27/2006

FormerLurker  posted on  2007-02-06   16:49:37 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#22. To: christine (#12)

guess he'll oose himself back on over to FR aka GoPville.

I'm wondering if he'll roll the dice and try to sign up as a poster here. It'd be fun to slap him around a bit, but I think his pride will keep him from doing it, at least for awhile.. LOL


You appear to be a major trouble maker...and I'm getting really pissed. - GoldiLox, 7/27/2006

FormerLurker  posted on  2007-02-06   17:11:56 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#23. To: orangedog (#20)

Thanks, now I don't have to worry about what to have for dinner. I won't be able to eat for a day after getting that mental picture.

You probably want to evade anything with Tuna.

(Couldn't resist!)


SKYDRIFTER  posted on  2007-02-06   17:12:06 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#24. To: FormerLurker (#21)

Hey BTW honway, did you know that Ooser was accusing you and I of plotting against him, in that he was accusing a new poster TwentyTwelve, of being you, and found it strange that I was posting on LP a day after TwentyTwelve signed up?

That is bizarre and confirmation of his deteriorating mental state.

I have never posted on LP under any name other than honway and never will.

I have a great deal of information archived on LP concerning the WTC 1993 bombing, the OKC bombing and 9/11 and would not risk that being pulled by trying to bypass a banning by the webmaster.

honway  posted on  2007-02-06   17:28:29 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#25. To: aristeides (#1)

I hope BAC doesn't try to make this his new home.

"First they ignore you. Then they ridicule you. Then they fight you. Then you win." --Mahatma K. Gandhi

angle  posted on  2007-02-06   17:35:18 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#26. To: angle (#25)

Don't forget that we have a Bozo filter.

Katrina was America's Chernobyl.

aristeides  posted on  2007-02-06   17:36:44 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#27. To: honway (#24)

I have a great deal of information archived on LP concerning the WTC 1993 bombing, the OKC bombing and 9/11 and would not risk that being pulled by trying to bypass a banning by the webmaster.

That's probably one of the reasons why he made the accusation, to see if he could trick Goldi into doing something extreme. Although it's never good to see someone get banned, I think in his case, it was for the best.

He was determined to intimidate and badger anyone not falling into line with his "official view", and if someone was a bit more than he could personally handle, he'd cry to Goldi with all sorts of wild stories and accusations.

Unfortunately for him, he pulled his crap at the wrong time, on the wrong thread, trying to silence a few people who had just recently opened their eyes concerning 9/11, who were talking about the amnesty provision in the minimum wage bill.

He got his ass whooped by the posters for one, and Goldi had already told him several times to cut the crap, she wasn't interested. But he persisted...

Oh well, as already mentioned, he'll probably ooze his way back, if he's not already there as someone else. He'll just have to watch the words KOOK and ROTFLOL!...


You appear to be a major trouble maker...and I'm getting really pissed. - GoldiLox, 7/27/2006

FormerLurker  posted on  2007-02-06   17:38:18 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#28. To: FormerLurker (#27)

Oh well, as already mentioned, he'll probably ooze his way back, if he's not already there as someone else.

He spent years establishing the screen name persona of BeAChooser. And now those many hours,weeks,months and even years are gone. Wasted.He can't show up anywhere with that screen name again. That has got to be difficult.

honway  posted on  2007-02-06   17:52:36 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#29. To: honway (#28)

He spent years establishing the screen name persona of BeAChooser. And now those many hours,weeks,months and even years are gone. Wasted.He can't show up anywhere with that screen name again. That has got to be difficult.

Excuse me if a shed a tear..ok, I'm better now. ROTFLOL!!!!!

His name is carved into Internet lore as a government shill. He and/or his handlers probably decided it best he do a hari-kari and resurrect himself as a new identity, as BeAChooser was no longer effective.


You appear to be a major trouble maker...and I'm getting really pissed. - GoldiLox, 7/27/2006

FormerLurker  posted on  2007-02-06   17:57:47 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#30. To: FormerLurker (#29)

His name is carved into Internet lore as a government shill.

Well put.

honway  posted on  2007-02-06   18:03:24 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#31. To: honway (#28)

He spent years establishing the screen name persona of BeAChooser.

He, or they?

Katrina was America's Chernobyl.

aristeides  posted on  2007-02-06   19:04:07 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#32. To: aristeides, honway, Former Lurker (#31)

honway: He spent years establishing the screen name persona of BeAChooser.

aristeides: He, or they?

He, they, whatever - BAC has been quite successful in deflecting everyone's attention on this forum at least from the issue that might be more worthy of discussion ie. the amnesty bill hidden in the minimum wage pending legislation and the ramifications.

Doesn't anyone at 4um care about that issue and what if anything can be done to stop it from becoming law?

Maybe it's because I don't share a common history with you guys and BAC - but honestly if he's as much of a gov't shill as you describe him to be - why waste your energy on the guy? I don't get it.

Goldi seems to have been right to bounce him and she seems right to focus everyone's energies at LP discussing the amnesty leg. Perhaps that's something we should do here too, do you think???

scrapper2  posted on  2007-02-06   19:25:20 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#33. To: scrapper2 (#32)

Perhaps that's something we should do here too, do you think???

What do you suggest? It certainly would need its own thread. There's numbers to call as far as senators, congressmen, as well as the news media. Do we have the people here to take that sort of initiative?


You appear to be a major trouble maker...and I'm getting really pissed. - GoldiLox, 7/27/2006

FormerLurker  posted on  2007-02-06   19:32:27 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#34. To: FormerLurker (#33)

Register as a Democrat, that will show them!

sometimes there just aren't enough belgians

Dakmar  posted on  2007-02-06   19:41:25 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#35. To: Fred Mertz (#2)

As much as I find BAC annoying, he backs up most of his points of view with (goobermint) documentation.

Manufactured facts are so often contrary to real facts, Fred.

I thought you knew that?

sometimes there just aren't enough belgians

Dakmar  posted on  2007-02-06   19:43:31 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#36. To: FormerLurker (#33)

What do you suggest? It certainly would need its own thread. There's numbers to call as far as senators, congressmen, as well as the news media. Do we have the people here to take that sort of initiative?

a. I'd suggest we link to the LP thread as it's own article - LP has done the foot work so why re-work the wheel. I can do that.

b. And I'd also suggest that like LP'ers, we email a dozen of the talk jocks even if it means we have to contact folks we normally don't like to listen to regarding war - the talking heads on radio are more likely to run with this story than the TV guys who by and large want shamnesty to take place. There was a site that an LP'er posted that gave most of the email addressses of the top 100 radio talk show hosts in the country.

http://www.talkers.com/main/index. php? option=com_content&task=view&id=19&Itemid=44

"The 100 most important hosts now ranked"

c. Whether or not 4um folks have the initiative to do this type of email canvasing, I can't say. But it wouldn't hurt to put up the info. Who knows - maybe even some lurkers might do it, too.

d. I don't like this amnesty bill being hidden in another one, for one thing, that smells to me. And also I don't like the fact that there are so many oddball phrases in it - referring to worldwide quotas, the Sect'y of State under taking this immigration guest worker legislation, and also our government "helping" the Mexican gov't build hospitals there ( why?)don't the Mexican oligarchs have enough stolen $ to afford building the basic necessities themselves? and also there's no mention of changing the anchor baby practice so what if those guest worker families have an American born kid, who's going to force the whole lot of them to go back to Mexico once their job dries up stateside?

scrapper2  posted on  2007-02-06   20:32:56 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#37. To: scrapper2 (#32)

He, they, whatever - BAC has been quite successful in deflecting everyone's attention on this forum at least from the issue that might be more worthy of discussion ie. the amnesty bill hidden in the minimum wage pending legislation and the ramifications.

Doesn't anyone at 4um care about that issue and what if anything can be done to stop it from becoming law?

Could you cut and paste the specific language in the pending legislation that discusses amnesty to a reply on this thread? Thanks.

honway  posted on  2007-02-06   20:46:31 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#38. To: christine (#12)

I'm amused at this thread, quite amused. ROTFLOL!

"We are Americans. This is our country. He, who would take it from us, by force or by stealth, is our enemy. And it is our purpose -- nay, it is our duty, to our children and to their children and to our yet unborn posterity -- to use all feasible means to destroy him." Dr. Revilo P. Oliver

BTP Holdings  posted on  2007-02-06   20:54:01 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#39. To: SKYDRIFTER (#23)

Hey SKY, remember when we double teamed BAC and had him posting gibberish? Soon thereafter he disappeared for a couple months for a PSYOPS refresher course. ;0)

"We are Americans. This is our country. He, who would take it from us, by force or by stealth, is our enemy. And it is our purpose -- nay, it is our duty, to our children and to their children and to our yet unborn posterity -- to use all feasible means to destroy him." Dr. Revilo P. Oliver

BTP Holdings  posted on  2007-02-06   20:57:10 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#40. To: BTP Holdings (#39)

Yeah, that was fun. BAC regained ten years on his life, when Goldi banned me.

What a sorry piece of shit, BAC is. {.... and Goldi.}


SKYDRIFTER  posted on  2007-02-06   21:07:44 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#41. To: Dakmar (#34)

Register as a Democrat, that will show them!

Hmmm. Don't think so, but I might just for grins... (chuckle)


You appear to be a major trouble maker...and I'm getting really pissed. - GoldiLox, 7/27/2006

FormerLurker  posted on  2007-02-06   21:14:01 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#42. To: scrapper2 (#36)

I'd suggest we link to the LP thread as it's own article - LP has done the foot work so why re-work the wheel. I can do that.

Looks like those folks got all riled up over nothing. There's nothing concerning amnesty in any of the amendments, or in the bill itself. I couldn't figure out what they were so worked up about, as I didn't see anything definitive last night.

As I looked into it a bit further, there's nothing in regards to amnesty in any part of the bill or the amendments.


You appear to be a major trouble maker...and I'm getting really pissed. - GoldiLox, 7/27/2006

FormerLurker  posted on  2007-02-06   21:16:44 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#43. To: FormerLurker (#41)

Have you considered a bumper sticker? That seems to be the forum of the future.
please kill me :)

sometimes there just aren't enough belgians

Dakmar  posted on  2007-02-06   21:16:54 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#44. To: honway (#37)

Could you cut and paste the specific language in the pending legislation that discusses amnesty to a reply on this thread? Thanks.

There's nothing that I could find honway, I think it's a false alarm.


You appear to be a major trouble maker...and I'm getting really pissed. - GoldiLox, 7/27/2006

FormerLurker  posted on  2007-02-06   21:17:27 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#45. To: Dakmar (#43) (Edited)

Have you considered a bumper sticker?

please kill me :)

How about, "I voted for Bush". That might work.

That's a joke BTW... LOL


You appear to be a major trouble maker...and I'm getting really pissed. - GoldiLox, 7/27/2006

FormerLurker  posted on  2007-02-06   21:18:49 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#46. To: FormerLurker, honway (#44)

There's nothing that I could find honway, I think it's a false alarm.

It's not a false alarm.

I just posted the LP thread with the Senate Amendment 187 to the previous House Resolution and previous Senate Bill.

http://www.libertypost.org/cgi-bin/readart.cgi? ArtNum=175808&Disp=Refresh&

AND

http://www.libertypost.org/cgi-bin/readart.cgi? ArtNum=175627&Disp=283#283

This was the original SB 1097-1102 passed January 24, 2007. Just page forward.

http://frwebgate.access.gpo.gov/cgi-bin/getpage.cgi? dbname=2007_record&page=S1091&position=all

You need to cut and paste the urls. Neil's software is not agreeable to any long links I try to post as live links here.

scrapper2  posted on  2007-02-06   21:29:22 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#47. To: scrapper2 (#46)

I don't see anything about amnesty. Please post an excerpt that refers to that topic.


You appear to be a major trouble maker...and I'm getting really pissed. - GoldiLox, 7/27/2006

FormerLurker  posted on  2007-02-06   22:27:42 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#48. To: FormerLurker (#47)

I don't see anything about amnesty. Please post an excerpt that refers to that topic.

Thank you for revealing yourself and your hidden agenda.

Forgiving illegals for breaking our national immigration laws and giving them "magique" rabbit out of the hat legal status is AMNESTY, n'est pas?

Or are you going to argue that paying a fine makes everything fair and square with the US taxpayers and we should overlook the fact that illegal aliens not only broke our laws but also took advantage of our education, social, and welfare services in many many instances, not to mention that their illegal behavior served to displace those who have patiently waited in the legal immigration queue for years.

You and I are done.

scrapper2  posted on  2007-02-06   22:40:26 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#49. To: scrapper2 (#48)

Thank you for revealing yourself and your hidden agenda.

Quit your bitching and post the damn info if you have it.

Or is it that you DON'T know what the hell you are talking about maybe, and that is why you need to get all pissy when I ask a simple question?


You appear to be a major trouble maker...and I'm getting really pissed. - GoldiLox, 7/27/2006

FormerLurker  posted on  2007-02-06   22:41:38 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#50. To: scrapper2 (#48)

Forgiving illegals for breaking our national immigration laws and giving them "magique" rabbit out of the hat legal status is AMNESTY, n'est pas?

As far as I can tell, you're talking to yourself, as I'm certainly not for granting amnesty to illegals. I just asked for something other than links to thousands of pages of legalize in regards to what you are claiming. So far, I've seen NOTHING that reflects what you and others on LP are claiming.

If you have a problem with that, tough shit.


You appear to be a major trouble maker...and I'm getting really pissed. - GoldiLox, 7/27/2006

FormerLurker  posted on  2007-02-06   22:44:27 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#51. To: scrapper2 (#48)

You and I are done.

Ah shucks, and I was starting to have fun. Good riddence asshole.


You appear to be a major trouble maker...and I'm getting really pissed. - GoldiLox, 7/27/2006

FormerLurker  posted on  2007-02-06   22:45:41 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#52. To: BAC (#0) (Edited)

Here is the actual ban notice to BeAChooser:

293. To: BeAChooser (#235)

Okay that's IT!!

Your actions here can be categorized as clearly disruptive.

Disruptive to this thread and disruptive to it's important message

Disruptive to everyone of those who are working to get info out that is critical for this nation.

And frankly...I've had enough. As has everyone else on this board.

SO, You are ...

TOTALLY AND FOREVER OUTTA HERE!!!

Take your crap and post it someplace else. I'm classifying you now as a disruptor.

You are BANNED!!!

Goldi-Lox posted on 2007-02-06 11:12:05 ET Reply Trace

Coral Snake  posted on  2007-02-06   23:12:09 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#53. To: Coral Snake (#52)

She didn't really ban me. The Ron Brown zombie was standing in for me there. The same one that Clinton brought back to life and used to hide the WMD in Syria. That's who she actually banned.

ROTFLOL!

KOOKS!

BAC  posted on  2007-02-06   23:19:27 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#54. To: honway, scrapper2, christine (#37)

I located the following info by looking up Secure America and Orderly Immigration Act with Google, then correlating the appropriate section with Senate Amendment 187, HR.2, that I found on Thomas.

In the PROPOSED McCain Kennedy Secure America and Orderly Immigration Act, the text reads as follows;

From Summary of the Secure America and Orderly Immigration Act

TITLE VII – H-5B Non-Immigrants 


Whereas what Congress actually passed is as follows;

From TEXT OF AMENDMENTS -- (Senate - January 24, 2007)

   ``Sec..250A..H- 5B nonimmigrants.''.

   SEC. 1702. ADJUSTMENT OF STATUS FOR H- 5B NONIMMIGRANTS.

    (a) In General.--Chapter 5 of title II of the Immigration and Nationality Act (8 U.S.C. 1255 et seq.) is amended by inserting after section 245A the following:

   ``ADJUSTMENT OF STATUS OF FORMER H-5B NONIMMIGRANT TO THAT OF PERSON ADMITTED FOR LAWFUL PERMANENT RESIDENCE

    ``Sec. 245B. (a) Requirements.- -The Secretary shall adjust the status of an alien from nonimmigrant status under section 101(a)(15)(H)(v)(b) to that of an alien lawfully admitted for permanent residence under this section if the alien satisfies the following requirements:

    ``(1) COMPLETION OF EMPLOYMENT OR EDUCATION REQUIREMENT.--The alien establishes that the alien has been employed in the United States, either full time, part time, seasonally, or self- employed, or has met the education requirements of subsection (f) or (g) of section 250A during the period required by section 250A (e).

    ``(2) RULEMAKING.--The Secretary shall establish regulations for the timely filing and processing of applications for adjustment of status for nonimmigrants under section 101(a)(15)(H)(v) (b).

    ``(3) APPLICATION AND FEE.--The alien who applies for adjustment of status under this section shall pay the following:

    ``(A) APPLICATION FEE.--An alien who files an application under section 245B of the Immigration and Nationality Act, shall pay an application fee, set by the Secretary.

    ``(B) ADDITIONAL FINE.--Before the adjudication of an application for adjustment of status filed under this section, an alien who is at least 21 years of age shall pay a fine of $1,000.

    ``(4) ADMISSIBLE UNDER IMMIGRATION LAWS.--The alien establishes that the alien is not inadmissible under section 212(a), except for any provision of that section that is not applicable or waived under section 250A(d) (2).

    ``(5) MEDICAL EXAMINATION.--The alien shall undergo, at the alien's expense, an appropriate medical examination (including a determination of immunization status) that conforms to generally accepted professional standards of medical practice.

    ``(6) PAYMENT OF INCOME TAXES.--

    ``(A) IN GENERAL.- -Not later than the date on which status is adjusted under this section, the alien shall establish the payment of all Federal income taxes owed for employment during the period of employment required by section 250A(e) by establishing that--

    ``(i) no such tax liability exists;

    ``(ii) all outstanding liabilities have been met; or

    ``(iii) the alien has entered into an agreement for payment of all outstanding liabilities with the Internal Revenue Service.

    ``(B) IRS COOPERATION.--The Commissioner of Internal Revenue shall provide documentation to an alien upon request to establish the payment of all income taxes required by this paragraph.

    ``(7) BASIC CITIZENSHIP SKILLS.--

    ``(A) IN GENERAL.--Except as provided in subparagraph (B), the alien shall establish that the alien--

    ``(i) meets the requirements of section 312; or

    ``(ii) is satisfactorily pursuing a course of study to achieve such an understanding of English and knowledge and understanding of the history and government of the United States.

    ``(B) RELATION TO NATURALIZATION EXAMINATION.--An alien who demonstrates that the alien meets the requirements of section 312 may be considered to have satisfied the requirements of that section for purposes of becoming naturalized as a citizen of the United States under title III.

    ``(8) SECURITY AND LAW ENFORCEMENT BACKGROUND CHECKS.--The Secretary shall conduct a security and law enforcement background check in accordance with procedures described in section 250A(h).

    ``(9) MILITARY SELECTIVE SERVICE.--The alien shall establish that if the alien is within the age period required under the Military Selective Service Act (50 U.S.C. App. 451 et seq.), that such alien has registered under that Act.

    ``(b) Treatment of Spouses and Children.--

    ``(1) ADJUSTMENT OF STATUS.--Notwithstanding any other provision of law, the Secretary of Homeland Security shall--

    ``(A) adjust the status to that of a lawful permanent resident under this section, or provide an immigrant visa to the spouse or child of an alien who adjusts status to that of a permanent resident under this section; or

    ``(B) adjust the status to that of a lawful permanent resident under this section for an alien who was the spouse or child of an alien who adjusts status or is eligible to adjust status to that of a permanent resident under section 245B in accordance with subsection (a), if--

    ``(i) the termination of the qualifying relationship was connected to domestic violence; and

    ``(ii) the spouse or child has been battered or subjected to extreme cruelty by the spouse or parent who adjusts status to that of a permanent resident under this section.

    ``(2) APPLICATION OF OTHER LAW.--In acting on applications filed under this subsection with respect to aliens who have been battered or subjected to extreme cruelty, the Secretary of Homeland Security shall apply the provisions of section 204(a)(1)(J) and the protections, prohibitions, and penalties under section 384 of the Illegal Immigration Reform and Immigrant Responsibility Act of 1996 (8 U.S.C. 1367).

    ``(c) Judicial Review; Confidentiality; Penalties.--Subsections (n), (o), and (p) of section 250A shall apply to this section.''.

    (b) Clerical Amendment.--The table of contents for the Immigration and Nationality Act (8 U.S.C. 1101 et seq.) is amended by inserting after the item relating to section 245A the following:

   ``Sec..245B..Adjustment of status of former H- 5B nonimmigrant to that of person admitted for lawful permanent residence.''.

   


You appear to be a major trouble maker...and I'm getting really pissed. - GoldiLox, 7/27/2006

FormerLurker  posted on  2007-02-06   23:21:41 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#55. To: scrapper2 (#48)

Thank you for revealing yourself and your hidden agenda.

Hey pal, if you want to see my "agenda", take a look at what I just found. If you didn't jump to your mistaken conclusions, and start ragging on me, I might have been more polite. I don't deal well with those that give me a hard time.


You appear to be a major trouble maker...and I'm getting really pissed. - GoldiLox, 7/27/2006

FormerLurker  posted on  2007-02-06   23:23:45 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#56. To: FormerLurker, scrapper2, wake up (#54)

good lord, my head is spinning. i mean no offense, but it seems to me that this is minutiae at this point. one need only look at the large picture--the plan for the North American Union--this is what americans need to be made aware of. do you realize how few even know of its existence? how many politicians do you hear talking about it? any other than Ron Paul? the reason? it's because they all support it. look how many of them are CFR! and you all think writing to any of these traitors is going to do a thing? if they intended to do anything, the borders would have been secured and CLOSED years ago. no, the solution to this is not working within the 'political' system. they are the enemy of we the people. imo, our activism efforts should be educating as many people as we can. bring them here to get the information. post and send articles and google videos to your email list. make copies of DVDs as wake up does and pass them around everywhere you go and tell them about alternative media like RBN and GCN!

christine  posted on  2007-02-06   23:54:57 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#57. To: christine (#56)

Could you unban Ponchy for a day or two? We want to bend him to our will and make him do criminal acts.

Bunch of internet bums ... grand jury --- opium den ! ~ byeltsin

Minerva  posted on  2007-02-07   0:15:48 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#58. To: christine (#56)

maybe just unnatural acts, but that might be too easy. he seems to be inclined that way already.

"And this is the end of my brilliant career on the 4um..." -- ponchy 12/20/2006

Morgana le Fay  posted on  2007-02-07   0:18:48 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#59. To: christine (#56)

good lord, my head is spinning. i mean no offense, but it seems to me that this is minutiae at this point. one need only look at the large picture--the plan for the North American Union--this is what americans need to be made aware of. do you realize how few even know of its existence? how many politicians do you hear talking about it? any other than Ron Paul? the reason? it's because they all support it. look how many of them are CFR!

As it stands now, the Kennedy McCain Amnesty Bill, otherwise known as the Secure America and Orderly Immigration Act, has been inserted as an amendment into the Minimum Wage bill, and has been passed by the senate I believe.

A amnesty bill is just the first step of implementing the NAU, but a critical step to the plan. Without it, things will be a bit more difficult for the NWO to advance their agenda.

These slimeballs are getting away with this because the main stream press is NOT reporting on any of it. Once exposed to the light of day, the cockroaches will scurry, but with the general population in the dark about these things, there isn't much hope.


You appear to be a major trouble maker...and I'm getting really pissed. - GoldiLox, 7/27/2006

FormerLurker  posted on  2007-02-07   0:31:51 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#60. To: Morgana le Fay (#58)

The same people who cured Ted Haggard of lusting after assholes might be able to cure Ponchy of being an asshole.

Bunch of internet bums ... grand jury --- opium den ! ~ byeltsin

Minerva  posted on  2007-02-07   0:32:56 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#61. To: Coral Snake (#52)

TOTALLY AND FOREVER OUTTA HERE!!!

Take your crap and post it someplace else. I'm classifying you now as a disruptor.

You are BANNED!!!

Goldi-Lox posted on 2007-02-06 11:12:05 ET Reply Trace

Hey BeachLoser!

ROTFLMAO

at you!


Hey, Meester,wanna meet my seester?

Flintlock  posted on  2007-02-07   0:33:44 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#62. To: Minerva (#60)

ponchy isn't much interested in self help that he can't drink.

"And this is the end of my brilliant career on the 4um..." -- ponchy 12/20/2006

Morgana le Fay  posted on  2007-02-07   0:34:57 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#63. To: FormerLurker (#59)

These slimeballs are getting away with this because the main stream press is NOT reporting on any of it. Once exposed to the light of day, the cockroaches will scurry, but with the general population in the dark about these things, there isn't much hope.

exactly..we need to turn them onto alternative information sources as i said above.

christine  posted on  2007-02-07   0:38:03 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#64. To: christine, former lurker (#56) (Edited)

good lord, my head is spinning. i mean no offense, but it seems to me that this is minutiae at this point. one need only look at the large picture--the plan for the North American Union--this is what americans need to be made aware of. do you realize how few even know of its existence?

The minutiae of the immigration bill is supposed to make your head spin.

People should not give the minutiae details of the bill to their next door neighbors or work colleagues or relatives.

One would only need to say that there's a "pending bill" to forgive/give amnesty to 20 Million illegal aliens and the only recompense to the US taxpayer is that the illegal would pay a one time only $1000 fine and illegals under 21 are exempt from the fine.

Then one would encourage one's circle of friends/relative/colleagues to contact their Congressmen and Senators to deep-six this bill since it does not address anchor baby laws, unpaid income taxes, border fences to keep this from happening again, and employer fines for hiring immigrants who were illegal at the time to name a few items that require remedy.

Also the pending legislation increases the total of H-1B visas for engineers from India to displace American engineers.

Giving DVD's to people is a "stretch" remedy, IMO. You need to keep the message short and sweet to get the appropriate reaction and DVD's are not that way. People are busy these days. The only ones who would sit through a DVD presentation are in the choir already.

As for the North American Security Union, I agree with Former Lurker - that's far off and it's not in the bag by any means. We need to stick to the small here and now puzzle pieces that our nation faces today.

And defeating the guest worker amnesty bill would be a major step in thwarting the implementation of the NASU.

Fyi, Canada is a parliamentary system. The PM does not have the same powers as our President. Martin/Harper can't just sign on the dotted line. The PM would need to present this NASU to his Cabinet and after that, it would need to be voted on in Parliament and then passed on to the Senate. Where it gets tricky is the Parliamentary vote especially in the case of PM Harper. He is skating on thin ice with a minority government. His days are numbered. At this stage, Harper's gov't can be brought down with a "no confidence" vote. He does not want anything controversial coming up to a vote these days. Minority gov'ts last approx. 18 months. Harper was sworn into office in February, 2006. He's got another 6 month shelf life. Jorgas and Mexico's whatever would be nuts to think that Harper is going to chance his spot as PM with a vote on any NASU bill the next 6 months. No way. And it will be Canadians who will buck the idea of a contiguous border with the USA and Mexico - believe it or not it will be the USA part that will gall Canadians. There is no chance that Canadians want to share anything more than trade with the elephant.

***Former Lurker, thank you for finding a more understandable version of the amnesty bill.***

I expect that eventually the 20 Million illegals will gain some sort of legal staus but I don't think the cart should be put before the horse - what about employer fines? or anchor baby practice? or a proper fence like what we pay for Israel to have? or what about income tax back payments? and what about the Mexocans who are waiting in the legal immigration queue, shouldn't they get into America first over the illegals and what about the Mexican oligarch families, what payment are they making to our General Treasury to pay for our educating and medicating and welfareizing their countrymen??

There are quite a few outstanding issues that need to be resolved before/if illegals can get their slates wiped clean.

scrapper2  posted on  2007-02-07   2:40:26 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#65. To: FormerLurker (#7)

I see you are posting over there again. What's up with that? Personally you couldn't pay me to post on that site anymore even if I could, which I can't.

God is always good!
"It was an interesting day." - President Bush, recalling 9/11 [White House, 1/5/02]

RickyJ  posted on  2007-02-07   4:36:38 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#66. To: FormerLurker (#18)

Poor BAC, he finally did himself in.

On any forum with any signifcant traffic you will find many BACs. BAC is not unique at all. I doubt BAC is poor.

God is always good!
"It was an interesting day." - President Bush, recalling 9/11 [White House, 1/5/02]

RickyJ  posted on  2007-02-07   4:45:21 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#67. To: christine, FormerLurker, SKYDRIFTER (#63)

I'm surprised BeAChooser actually got banned from over there, he posted there for years. Maybe he will post here? Probably not though as he thinks of this place as Kookville.

Diana  posted on  2007-02-07   5:54:17 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#68. To: christine (#63)

Is it still okey to post about the banning of BeAChooser on this thread? (Am I on the right thread?)

I know there are more important issues but to those of us who have posted for some time and who were over there at some point it is kind of shocking, doesn't mean other things aren't important.

Diana  posted on  2007-02-07   5:57:43 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#69. To: Diana (#67)

I'm surprised BeAChooser actually got banned from over there, he posted there for years. Maybe he will post here?

BAC is banned?

What a thing to have in common with a slime-ball such as he.

I'm shocked; I tell you. Shocked!

He may turn up over here - at his own peril!


SKYDRIFTER  posted on  2007-02-07   11:18:01 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#70. To: Diana (#68)

Is it still okey to post about the banning of BeAChooser on this thread? (Am I on the right thread?)

The very purpose of this thread was to rag on BAC, even BEFORE he got himself banned at LP. Why do you ask?

More important things can be discussed on other threads. This was never intended to be a serious thread, although some took it beyond that.


You appear to be a major trouble maker...and I'm getting really pissed. - GoldiLox, 7/27/2006

FormerLurker  posted on  2007-02-08   1:32:48 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#71. To: Diana (#67)

I'm surprised BeAChooser actually got banned from over there, he posted there for years. Maybe he will post here? Probably not though as he thinks of this place as Kookville.

Me too. He seemed like a fixture there, but lately it seemed he was TRYING to get himself banned, while trying to take a few of us down with him. Seems like his handlers thought his usefullness was over, and that he would need to go out as a matyr and then later establish a new role, a new identity, a new personna, in order to become more effective.


You appear to be a major trouble maker...and I'm getting really pissed. - GoldiLox, 7/27/2006

FormerLurker  posted on  2007-02-08   1:35:26 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#72. To: RickyJ (#66)

On any forum with any signifcant traffic you will find many BACs. BAC is not unique at all. I doubt BAC is poor.

I doubt he is poor either, it was a joke. He's uncommon as so many people have tangled with him, and remember him well after the fact.


You appear to be a major trouble maker...and I'm getting really pissed. - GoldiLox, 7/27/2006

FormerLurker  posted on  2007-02-08   1:36:46 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#73. To: RickyJ (#65)

I see you are posting over there again. What's up with that? Personally you couldn't pay me to post on that site anymore even if I could, which I can't.

I like to put the shills in their place, and to give people some info they would otherwise never hear. There are those there that have generally only heard lies and disinfo, and I'm there to educate them.


You appear to be a major trouble maker...and I'm getting really pissed. - GoldiLox, 7/27/2006

FormerLurker  posted on  2007-02-08   1:38:49 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#74. To: FormerLurker (#73)

I agree. Every thread exposes more to whats really happening. The 911 threads, just by being so long and involved, bring awareness to some that have no idea.

Mark

"I was real close to Building 7 when it fell down... That didn't sound like just a building falling down to me while I was running away from it. There's a lot of eyewitness testimony down there of hearing explosions. [..] and the whole time you're hearing "boom, boom, boom, boom, boom." I think I know an explosion when I hear it... — Former NYC Police Officer and 9/11 Rescue Worker Craig Bartmer

Kamala  posted on  2007-02-08   6:14:54 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#75. To: Coral Snake, MUDBOY, samcgwire, Goldi-Lox, aristeides, Fred Mertz, christine, FormerLurker, Destro, HOUNDDAWG, honway, scrapper2, SKYDRIFTER, orangedog, angle, Dakmar, BTP Holdings, Flintlock, RickyJ, Diana, BAC, ALL (#52)

Hello everyone!

In my first post here at Freedom4um, I wish to set the record straight regarding my recent banning at LibertyPost by that forum's owner.

Post #293 of the following LP thread,

http://www.libertypost.org/cgi-bin/readart.cgi?ArtNum=175627&Disp=327#C327,

is where Goldi-Lox kicked me off her forum. She stated I was "disruptive" to the thread (and it's "important message").

Her banning post was a response to a post I made to samcgwire. Goldi deleted, in its entirety, the post I made to samcgwire (#235), calling my post "UNCIVIL".

Now you can decide for yourself whether I was disruptive (at least, any more so than scores of other folks have been on thousand other threads at LP).

Before you do that, however, keep in mind that she responded to a post I'd made nearly 12 hours earlier, and between that time and her post, I posted nothing further to the thread (and there were another 60 posts added by then). I'd hardly characterize that the massive disruption she claimed it to be. And my response was a response to a very hostile post directed at me. Was I supposed to be the only one at LP to just turn the other cheek? Just as I was the only one not allowed to post the word KOOK?

Furthermore, to single me out and ignore countless other examples of folks disrupting the forum in other threads says, I think, something about the consistency of Goldi's management of the forum. Many of these other cases have been pointed out to her (not just by me) and she took no action. So perhaps my banning just shows that only HER "issues" matter at LP. LP'ers take note. But that's ok. She is the owner and can do what she wants.

And a final bit of irony. Note that the assertion being made in the thread by Goldi and others apparently turned out to be more hysteria and rumor, than actual fact. I'm not saying those in Washington aren't above trying to slip something by us, but in this case it appears her concerns were a little overblown. But that's ok. She is the owner and can do what she wants.

Goldi-Lox chose to ban me ... permanently ... and without a real warning ... but that is her right as forum owner. She can do what she wants. So here I am, on Freedom4um. The same is true of this forum's owners. Should they decide I'm no longer welcome, they can ban me and I will make no effort to return. And for the record I have not posted at FR since Jim tossed me nor have I posted (or will I) at LP (unless, of course, invited to do so by Goldi). But, I do intend to give this forum's owner no legitimate cause to cancel my access. More on that later.

First, I do feel that Goldi's pulling my comment #235 and labeling it UNCIVIL is a naked effort to hide the hypocrisy of her own actions. So here are the facts regarding that deleted post (and you know how I love facts).

My post (#235) was a response to this post by samcgwire:

****************

228. To: BeAChooser (#218)

Quite honestly, you Quisling POS. I hope you freaking choke on yourself.

This might be my last night on LP.

Chooser, you and everyone like you will hang before this is over.

You sorry SOB. You can't cover for the treasonous bastards any longer.

The jig is up. Game over. It's time for all quislings to pay the fiddler and start to reap the whirlwind. You and your ilk have done enough damage.

samcgwire posted on 2007-02-05 21:07:36 ET Reply Trace

********************

To samcgwire's statement "Quite honestly, you Quisling POS. I hope you freaking choke on yourself.", I wrote (in #235) "What a civil, family oriented forum."

How can Goldi find that comment uncivil, yet not consider calling someone a "POS" and an "SOB" uncivil? Does she not know what POS and SOB stand for? Or are they okay because they are abbreviations of foul language? And she must think that a death wish is civil, too. I hardly see the logic in that. But it's her forum.

Next, in response to samcgwire's statement "This might be my last night on LP", I wrote "Why? You folks own this forum. I'm one little voice. What do you fear?"

Again, does Goldi think that's being uncivil? There's no foul language. No labels. Just the simple truth. Folks like samcgwire do seem to dominate her forum. And I was just one little voice of rationality (IMO). What did she fear?

Finally, in response to what I perceive to be a highly uncivil death threat, "Chooser, you and everyone like you will hang before this is over", I wrote "This is the sort of person you are associating yourself with, Goldi."

I see nothing uncivil in that observation, either. And it was the truth. She was associating herself with that individual. Later, she even went out of her way in the thread to tell samcgwire to not quit the forum but just take some time off and come back. And samcgwire wasn't the only problematic individual she was chummy with in that thread. In my opinion.

So here was a thread with it's very important topic (and I do think stopping illegal immigration is important) and Goldi willingly associates herself and the topic with an extremist who utters death threats and foul language at the drop of a hat, and others who I had shown (on other threads Goldi was pinged to) have a propensity for lying. I warned her in two emails after my banning that such associations are not going to get her views about this issue any favorable response from anyone who matters. Nor is allowing liars to corrupt a forum going to do that. My emails to her said quite a bit about the topic of liars. She ignores what I said at the risk of her own forum's future. But then it is her forum and I'll say no more on that matter unless asked to do so by her. I'm not holding my breath.

Now, as to my presence on THIS forum, I'd going to try something different. I will not be calling anyone any names or labels (you know ... kook, liar, 5th Columnist, anti-American). No matter what you call me or uncivility you post to me. I won't bozo you (don't believe in that). I'm simply going to turn the other cheek. And we will see who comes out looking the worse in the long run.

I'm also not going to engage in long debates, taking apart posts line by line. But I will be posting linked sources that will allow any open minded visitor to FD4UM to see that a claim made by a poster or a claim made in an article is false. They can draw their own conclusion from that.

One last comment. I appreciate this forum's owners giving me the opportunity to join, despite our past differences. I sure this will be interesting.

Now let the games begin ...

BeAChooser  posted on  2007-02-10   16:23:57 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#76. To: BeAChooser (#75)

Great piles of spaghetti, bad vibes like confetti in Italy
We go by train and not by plane
We'd come home by car if it wasn't too far
To drive home by car

sometimes there just aren't enough belgians

Dakmar  posted on  2007-02-10   16:29:05 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#77. To: BeAChooser (#75)

Now, as to my presence on THIS forum, I'd going to try something different. I will not be calling anyone any names or labels (you know ... kook, liar, 5th Columnist, anti-American). No matter what you call me or uncivility you post to me. I won't bozo you (don't believe in that). I'm simply going to turn the other cheek. And we will see who comes out looking the worse in the long run.

I'm also not going to engage in long debates, taking apart posts line by line. But I will be posting linked sources that will allow any open minded visitor to FD4UM to see that a claim made by a poster or a claim made in an article is false. They can draw their own conclusion from that.

One last comment. I appreciate this forum's owners giving me the opportunity to join, despite our past differences. I sure this will be interesting.

i'm sure. ;)

welcome, BeAChooser.

christine  posted on  2007-02-10   16:40:18 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#78. To: BeAChooser (#75)

Are you going to replace Ponchy as the site Kook?

Bunch of internet bums ... grand jury --- opium den ! ~ byeltsin

Minerva  posted on  2007-02-10   16:54:05 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#79. To: Minerva (#78)

blue ink causes cancer

sometimes there just aren't enough belgians

Dakmar  posted on  2007-02-10   17:01:39 ET  (1 image) Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#80. To: FormerLurker, scrapper 2 (#55)

Its confusing because the bill in question is from may 2005, for the secure and orderly whatever. And formerlurker has amendments for a house bill.

STicking on amendment to other chambers bills will result in conference committees because the bills must pass in exact matching form before presenting to the liar in chief.

I started doing a further check when at Thomas I did a sponsor search for mccain and came up with this:

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S.RES.70 : A resolution expressing the sense of the Senate that the Commander of Multinational Forces-Iraq and all United States personnel under his command should receive from Congress the full support necessary to carry out the United States mission in Iraq. Sponsor: Sen McCain, John [AZ] (introduced 2/5/2007) Cosponsors (9) Committees: Senate Foreign Relations Latest Major Action: 2/5/2007 Referred to Senate committee. Status: Referred to the Committee on Foreign Relations. --------------------------------------------------------------------------------

2. S.83 : A bill to provide increased rail transportation security. Sponsor: Sen McCain, John [AZ] (introduced 1/4/2007) Cosponsors (3) Committees: Senate Commerce, Science, and Transportation Latest Major Action: 1/4/2007 Referred to Senate committee. Status: Read twice and referred to the Committee on Commerce, Science, and Transportation.

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3. S.84 : A bill to establish a United States Boxing Commission to administer the Act, and for other purposes. Sponsor: Sen McCain, John [AZ] (introduced 1/4/2007) Cosponsors (2) Committees: Senate Commerce, Science, and Transportation Latest Major Action: 1/4/2007 Referred to Senate committee. Status: Read twice and referred to the Committee on Commerce, Science, and Transportation.

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4. S.85 : A bill to amend the Omnibus Crime Control and Safe Streets Act of 1968 to clarify that territories and Indian tribes are eligible to receive grants for confronting the use of methamphetamine. Sponsor: Sen McCain, John [AZ] (introduced 1/4/2007) Cosponsors (13) Committees: Senate Judiciary Latest Major Action: 1/4/2007 Referred to Senate committee. Status: Read twice and referred to the Committee on the Judiciary.

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5. S.86 : A bill to designate segments of Fossil Creek, a tributary to the Verde River in the State of Arizona, as wild and scenic rivers. Sponsor: Sen McCain, John [AZ] (introduced 1/4/2007) Cosponsors (1) Committees: Senate Energy and Natural Resources Latest Major Action: 1/4/2007 Referred to Senate committee. Status: Read twice and referred to the Committee on Energy and Natural Resources.

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6. S.166 : A bill to restrict any State from imposing a new discriminatory tax on cell phone services. Sponsor: Sen McCain, John [AZ] (introduced 1/4/2007) Cosponsors (6) Committees: Senate Finance Latest Major Action: 1/4/2007 Referred to Senate committee. Status: Read twice and referred to the Committee on Finance.

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7. S.192 : A bill providing greater transparency with respect to lobbying activities, and for other purposes. Sponsor: Sen McCain, John [AZ] (introduced 1/4/2007) Cosponsors (3) Committees: Senate Homeland Security and Governmental Affairs Latest Major Action: 1/4/2007 Referred to Senate committee. Status: Read twice and referred to the Committee on Homeland Security and Governmental Affairs.

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8. S.327 : A bill to authorize the Secretary of the Interior to conduct a special resource study of sites associated with the life of Cesar Estrada Chavez and the farm labor movement. Sponsor: Sen McCain, John [AZ] (introduced 1/17/2007) Cosponsors (1) Committees: Senate Energy and Natural Resources Latest Major Action: 1/17/2007 Referred to Senate committee. Status: Read twice and referred to the Committee on Energy and Natural Resources.

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9. S.463 : A bill to amend the Federal Election Campaign Act of 1971 to clarify when organizations described in section 527 of the Internal Revenue Code of 1986 must register as political committees, and for other purposes. Sponsor: Sen McCain, John [AZ] (introduced 1/31/2007) Cosponsors (1) Committees: Senate Rules and Administration Latest Major Action: 1/31/2007 Referred to Senate committee. Status: Read twice and referred to the Committee on Rules and Administration.

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10. S.478 : A bill to amend the Federal Election Campaign Act of 1971 to replace the Federal Election Commission with Federal Election Administration, and for other purposes. Sponsor: Sen McCain, John [AZ] (introduced 2/1/2007) Cosponsors (1) Committees: Senate Rules and Administration Latest Major Action: 2/1/2007 Referred to Senate committee. Status: Read twice and referred to the Committee on Rules and Administration.

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11. S.519 : A bill to modernize and expand the reporting requirements relating to child pornography, to expand cooperation in combating child pornography, and for other purposes. Sponsor: Sen McCain, John [AZ] (introduced 2/7/2007) Cosponsors (2) Committees: Senate Judiciary Latest Major Action: 2/7/2007 Referred to Senate committee. Status: Read twice and referred to the Committee on the Judiciary.

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12. S.531 : A bill to repeal section 10(f) of Public Law 93-531, commonly known as the "Bennett Freeze". Sponsor: Sen McCain, John [AZ] (introduced 2/8/2007) Cosponsors (None) Committees: Senate Indian Affairs Latest Major Action: 2/8/2007 Referred to Senate committee. Status: Read twice and referred to the Committee on Indian Affairs.

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13. S.AMDT.19 to S.1 To include a reporting requirement. Sponsor: Sen McCain, John [AZ] (introduced 1/10/2007) Cosponsors (None) Latest Major Action: 1/12/2007 Amendment SA 19 was incorporated into the modification of Amendment SA 4.

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14. S.AMDT.28 to S.1 To provide congressional transparency. Sponsor: Sen McCain, John [AZ] (introduced 1/11/2007) Cosponsors (2) Latest Major Action: 1/18/2007 Proposed amendment SA 28 withdrawn in Senate.

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15. S.AMDT.29 to S.1 To provide congressional transparency. Sponsor: Sen McCain, John [AZ] (introduced 1/11/2007) Cosponsors (2) Latest Major Action: 1/18/2007 Proposed amendment SA 29 withdrawn in Senate.

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There was no 'next page' to click onto. I dunno what is going on here......

rowdee  posted on  2007-02-10   17:10:38 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#81. To: BeAChooser (#75)

There is no such thing here at 4UM as uncivil or disruptive. Free speech is as it is. Loving, hateful, racist, sexist, etc.. Say whatever you want. Just be ready to deal with the outcome.

There are a couple here that I dislike, but while I don't reply or post to them, I don't have them on bozo either. I choose not to respond, participate and separate myself from their nonsense.

I followed a couple of the long threads you were involved in. While I completely disagree with your position on the said topic, you should have never been banned, but its her site, and her rules.

Good luck here, you may be on island alone on alot of your positions.

Mark

"I was real close to Building 7 when it fell down... That didn't sound like just a building falling down to me while I was running away from it. There's a lot of eyewitness testimony down there of hearing explosions. [..] and the whole time you're hearing "boom, boom, boom, boom, boom." I think I know an explosion when I hear it... — Former NYC Police Officer and 9/11 Rescue Worker Craig Bartmer

Kamala  posted on  2007-02-10   17:11:56 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#82. To: Dakmar (#79)

Put me down for twenty bucks on McGwire. I think some internutter is gonna end up crying like a schoolgirl & pissin' themself.

01/31/07 Free Republic surrenders to Iran over an elecronic advertisment.
Another proud day for America!

Esso  posted on  2007-02-10   17:14:02 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#83. To: BeAChooser (#75)

Again, does Goldi think that's being uncivil? There's no foul language. No labels. Just the simple truth. Folks like samcgwire do seem to dominate her forum. And I was just one little voice of rationality (IMO). What did she fear?

. . .

I will not be calling anyone any names or labels (you know ... kook, liar, 5th Columnist, anti-American). . . . .

I'm also not going to engage in long debates, taking apart posts line by line.

ROCK! PAPER! SCISSORS!

Welcome aboard, BAC, even if it really is you . . .

leveller  posted on  2007-02-10   17:15:15 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#84. To: FormerLurker, scrapper2 (#80)

I just pulled this off Thomas' Bill Status page regarding HR2:

H.R.2 : To amend the Fair Labor Standards Act of 1938 to provide for an increase in the Federal minimum wage. Sponsor: Rep Miller, George [CA-7] (introduced 1/5/2007) Cosponsors (222) Committees: House Education and Labor Latest Major Action: 2/1/2007 Passed/agreed to in Senate. Status: Passed Senate with an amendment by Yea-Nay Vote. 94 - 3. Record Vote Number: 42.

rowdee  posted on  2007-02-10   17:15:22 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#85. To: Esso (#82) (Edited)

Put me down for twenty bucks

Ok, you're a pissant, where's my $20?

Want to buy a wagon?

sometimes there just aren't enough belgians

Dakmar  posted on  2007-02-10   17:20:04 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#86. To: Minerva (#60) (Edited)

My Adventures Among the Tweakers...

me dot com | 9 Feb 2007 | me

I do believe this whole methamphetamine hullaballoo is over-rated. And I say this as a man who, today, has fifty yards of fence to replace.

It's rather odd. I live above a 'holler, and my neighborhood, such as it is, is composed of hardworking, God-fearing rednecks. The next hill over, is populated entirely by white trash meth-addicts.

Anyhow: What happened to me last night. Since we had a big blackout in January I've had myself hooked up to the local radio net.

Last night, my brother came over, but I kicked him out of the weight-room early: thouight he went home.

I was squat pressing about twenty minutes later, when the radio came on. Seems there'd been a car crash down the valley.

I and several neighbors converged on the scene almost simultaneously. Seems a van run off the road, crashed down a hill, through a barbed wire bull fence, into our hay field, and run along the fence for ten or fifty yards, before stalling in a ditch.

The driver and his wife were completely out of it. They looked like they were in their sixties, but you never can tell with these people.

The guy literally fell into my arms, which annoyed me no end. If my immediate neighbors hadn't been watching, I think a couple of backhands to the face would have brought him out of it, pretty quick.

He didn't know who he was, (I still don't, either) where he was, or where he lived.

His whole mouth looked rotten, and I've known bag ladies who dressed better than his wife.

About this time, the tenants who run cattle in that area showed up loaded for bear.

The guy was just aware enough to tell us where he lived on the next ridge, and evidently some of the other people knew him. He said he'd call a friend to pull him out of hte ditch. As he was doing so, the cattleman and son claimed they saw another guy running through the field and they took off after him. I left about this time, but my brother got there later, and stayed afterwards.

It seems the that this guy called a friend to pull him out, but the friend didn't trust him, so he called the state troopers in. There wasn't much they could do. My brother pulled out the van (which I had no intention of doing; the boy is soft in the head).

Anyway, got a whole line of fence to repair today. Haven't had to deal with tweakers like this for a long time. Guy down the road makes meth, (and allegedly child porn). Everytime I pass his place I see a lot of young girls around, for some reason...

Anyway that's my adventure for last night, written this morning, under hte influence of a hang-over. I still support ALL drug legatlization, btw. Even tho I'm going to tear up my hands this afternoon on the barbed wire... Posted 02/09/2007 09:02:32 am CST by continental op

[ Reply ]

http://freedom4um.com/cgi-bin/readart.cgi?ArtNum=45230&Disp=86#C86

Good thing for Pouchy Haggard dosn't lust for his variety of wingnut and asshole.

Here is a strange piece by him. I guess he feels better as a drinker with cranksters to look down on.

"We seek a free flow of information... a nation that is afraid to let its people judge the truth and falsehood in an open market is a nation afraid of its people." --JFK, Feb 1962

Ferret Mike  posted on  2007-02-10   17:41:57 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#87. To: Dakmar (#85)

Can you play the lead guitar part for Secret Agent Man on a violin?

Bunch of internet bums ... grand jury --- opium den ! ~ byeltsin

Minerva  posted on  2007-02-10   17:57:01 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#88. To: Minerva (#87)

lol!

HOUNDDAWG  posted on  2007-02-10   17:58:21 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#89. To: Minerva (#87)

--

David Hasselhoff "Secret Agent Man"

"We seek a free flow of information... a nation that is afraid to let its people judge the truth and falsehood in an open market is a nation afraid of its people." --JFK, Feb 1962

Ferret Mike  posted on  2007-02-10   18:02:31 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#90. To: Minerva (#87)

Can you play the lead guitar part for Secret Agent Man on a violin?

No, I sell wagons now.

sometimes there just aren't enough belgians

Dakmar  posted on  2007-02-10   18:10:47 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#91. To: BeAChooser (#75)

Well for goodness sakes.. will wonders never cease :P..

Seriously thought BAC .. welcome to 4.. glad you've joined us.

Zipporah  posted on  2007-02-10   18:44:58 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#92. To: BeAChooser, Christine, Brian S, Honway, Robin, Aristeides, Red Jones, Diana, Kamala, All (#75)

BAC, you're a slimy piece of crybaby shit on your very best day.

For once, Goldi used good judgment. That was probably a first and a last, however.

Go ahead, whine to Christine!

WELCOME!


SKYDRIFTER  posted on  2007-02-10   18:57:29 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#93. To: SKYDRIFTER, beachOoser (#92)

Go ahead, whine to Christine!

I've got $20 on opposition.

sometimes there just aren't enough belgians

Dakmar  posted on  2007-02-10   19:04:31 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#94. To: SKYDRIFTER (#92)

He can whine to Zip & Chris all he wants. It won't save him here.

Mark

"I was real close to Building 7 when it fell down... That didn't sound like just a building falling down to me while I was running away from it. There's a lot of eyewitness testimony down there of hearing explosions. [..] and the whole time you're hearing "boom, boom, boom, boom, boom." I think I know an explosion when I hear it... — Former NYC Police Officer and 9/11 Rescue Worker Craig Bartmer

Kamala  posted on  2007-02-10   19:10:01 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#95. To: Dakmar (#93)

I've got $20 on opposition.

LOL!

Zipporah  posted on  2007-02-10   19:14:23 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#96. To: Kamala (#94)

It saddens me that I can't participate in the ElPee "Buh-Bye" party for BAC.

Getting banned by Goldi; what a thing to have in common.

His limp-wristed stuff is useless here.


SKYDRIFTER  posted on  2007-02-10   19:15:06 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#97. To: Zipporah (#95)

Shhh, you'll ruin it.

sometimes there just aren't enough belgians

Dakmar  posted on  2007-02-10   19:15:10 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#98. To: SKYDRIFTER, beachooser (#96)

His limp-wristed stuff is useless here.

Maybe he can get us discount on loudpeakers and/or sirens?

Mother Turtledove loves all of us!

sometimes there just aren't enough belgians

Dakmar  posted on  2007-02-10   19:18:28 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#99. To: Dakmar (#97)

Shhh, you'll ruin it.

(sorry .. ya trying to keep a low profile?)

Zipporah  posted on  2007-02-10   19:18:55 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#100. To: Zipporah (#99)

That wasn't the ambassador? Wow, I must look like an idiot.

sometimes there just aren't enough belgians

Dakmar  posted on  2007-02-10   19:20:38 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#101. To: Ferret Mike (#89)

i don't even know what to say. :P

christine  posted on  2007-02-10   19:22:29 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#102. To: Christine, Brian S, Honway, Robin, Aristeides, Red Jones, Diana, Kamala, All (#101)


GOLDI SINGS: "Amazing Grace."

293. To: BeAChooser (#235) Okay that's IT!!

Your actions here can be categorized as clearly disruptive.

Disruptive to this thread and disruptive to it's important message

Disruptive to everyone of those who are working to get info out that is critical for this nation.

And frankly...I've had enough. As has everyone else on this board.

SO, You are ...

TOTALLY AND FOREVER OUTTA HERE!!! Take your crap and post it someplace else. I'm classifying you now as a disruptor.

You are BANNED!!!

Goldi-Lox posted on 2007-02-06 11:12:05 ET Reply Trace


SKYDRIFTER  posted on  2007-02-10   19:39:01 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#103. To: SKYDRIFTER (#102)

TOTALLY AND FOREVER OUTTA HERE!!! Take your crap and post it someplace else. I'm classifying you now as a disruptor.

You are BANNED!!!

This proves something tho I'm not exactly sure what. Prolly means Z and C will have to buy some more servers to handle the load.

tom007  posted on  2007-02-10   19:41:45 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#104. To: tom007 (#103)

This proves something tho I'm not exactly sure what. Prolly means Z and C will have to buy some more servers to handle the load.

I'd imagine there will be a lot of dual membership going on, so that the true Americans at ElPee can come over here & say what they want to BAC. That should be a long line.

Sneaky Pete had to turn tail & run back to ElPee; when he got 'brave.'

This is "Last Chance" for BAC. But, if he likes eating shit, he's gonna love it here.

{Hear that, BAC?} [Of course he did!]


SKYDRIFTER  posted on  2007-02-10   19:47:07 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#105. To: SKYDRIFTER, Destro (#102)

I came over here after Goldi-Rob gave me a 2 week "timeout" for posting a video link from http://antiwar.com in the "Breaking News."

I'd have to say that current information from a website with hundreds of thousands of page views certainly qualifies as "News."

She's clearly annoyed by certain posters views, but does seem to make some slight effort to tolerate them.

But it's a lot of work for her, and shouldn't have to be...

AGAviator  posted on  2007-02-10   20:56:39 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#106. To: AGAviator (#105)

She banned me over an article highly critical of the minutemen. She is a fat rumped commando of the soft chair and munching of bonbons. She is a legend in her own mind and lies on elpee's welcome page regarding the joint being an open forum.

You are indeed better off not wasting your time at her place.

"We seek a free flow of information... a nation that is afraid to let its people judge the truth and falsehood in an open market is a nation afraid of its people." --JFK, Feb 1962

Ferret Mike  posted on  2007-02-10   22:45:58 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#107. To: AGAviator, Christine, Brian S, Honway, Robin, Aristeides, Red Jones, Diana, Kamala, All (#105)

Goldi is a fat and ugly control freak - period. She wouldn't know a levelled playing field, if she was buried in one.

Her issues have nothing to do with any civility; it's about consensus control, via whatever it takes.

She's essentially an unregistered agent for Israel; nothing more or less.

No problem, anymore.


SKYDRIFTER  posted on  2007-02-10   23:07:15 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#108. To: AGAviator, SKYDRIFTER (#105)

Goldi is a freeper who just fell out on the current freeper orthodoxy - like when 2 commies disagree one being Stalinist the other Trotskyite.

As the immigration issue dies - and it will die - especially since the immigration foes have started to sound like the 'Rum, Romany and Revolution' anti Irish-Catholic bigots of a hundred years ago - so will her website die.

This website is not much better sadly in that it also seeks to narrow focus views rather than expand them and reach consensus.

"The desire to rule is the mother of heresies." -- St. John Chrysostom

Destro  posted on  2007-02-11   0:11:21 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#109. To: Destro (#108)

As the immigration issue dies - and it will die - especially since the immigration foes have started to sound like the 'Rum, Romany and Revolution' anti Irish-Catholic bigots of a hundred years ago - so will her website die.

The immigration issue is already settled. I know that, because I'm the father of 3 blond, fair-skinned kids and 2 of them are in elementary school.

The good news, if there is any, is there are lots of Hispanics who are trying to be good people, and hopefully the successful ones among them will be able to keep the riff-raff in line. I work with a Hispanic woman who can keep right up with me, and I have a Hispanic renter who is always pays me cash, is never late, and never complains about anything. They also hold key positions in government and law enforcement, and to a lesser degree in business and law.

The psychotic gun-worshipping Know-Nothings muttering about a Civil War are going to get squashed pretty quickly if they do try anything. After all, how many boxes of .223 ammo can you carry moving around on foot? Put them in your vehicle and expect to get stopped at a roadblock. Go out in the country and they'll seal off the area and bring out the helicopters with infrared sensors. They may be able to cause some problems with IED's, and then they'll be lifting a page from the jihadi playbook, LOL.

AGAviator  posted on  2007-02-11   0:35:45 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#110. To: Ferret Mike (#106)

You are indeed better off not wasting your time at her place.

Site administrators do engage in a lot of thankless and time-consuming work, but good software and quality posters are really critical for the success of any forum, and you have to be able to attract both to make your site successful.

AGAviator  posted on  2007-02-11   0:39:54 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#111. To: BeAChooser, BAC, All (#75)

Ok, will the REAL Ooser please jump up and down... ROTFLOL!!!!


You appear to be a major trouble maker...and I'm getting really pissed. - GoldiLox, 7/27/2006

FormerLurker  posted on  2007-02-11   1:24:25 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#112. To: BeAChooser (#75)

Goldi-Lox chose to ban me ... permanently ... and without a real warning ...

Been there, done that. Thing is, it wasn't REALLY permanent. I don't know why she decided to unban me, and I had no notification that I was unbanned, but out of curiousity one day I tried to login and I found that I was able to.

If you ARE the real Ooser, then perhaps she'll soften up over time and do the same, who knows..


You appear to be a major trouble maker...and I'm getting really pissed. - GoldiLox, 7/27/2006

FormerLurker  posted on  2007-02-11   1:31:39 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#113. To: FormerLurker (#111)

I'm the real BAC. The new guy strikes me as some sort of obsessed kook.

ROTFLOL!

KOOKS!

Clintonistas!

BAC  posted on  2007-02-11   1:31:49 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#114. To: BAC (#113)

I'm the real BAC. The new guy strikes me as some sort of obsessed kook.

ROTFLOL!!


You appear to be a major trouble maker...and I'm getting really pissed. - GoldiLox, 7/27/2006

FormerLurker  posted on  2007-02-11   1:37:14 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#115. To: rowdee, scrapper2 (#80)

There was no 'next page' to click onto. I dunno what is going on here......

From further digging, it appears that Amendment 187 was an amendment to another amendment which was an amendment to yet another amendment, which was eventually tabled. Or so it was reported by a person who apparently knew a bit more about the legislative process than most..


You appear to be a major trouble maker...and I'm getting really pissed. - GoldiLox, 7/27/2006

FormerLurker  posted on  2007-02-11   1:41:09 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#116. To: Ferret Mike, BeAChooser, christine, Bill D Berger, honway, Uncle Bill, malador (#89)

David Hasselhoff "Secret Agent Man"

I say BeAChooser is really David Hasselhoff. That's why he has so much time on his hands...


You appear to be a major trouble maker...and I'm getting really pissed. - GoldiLox, 7/27/2006

FormerLurker  posted on  2007-02-11   1:44:52 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#117. To: BeAChooser (#75)

I'm surprised you would show up on this forum because most people here believe that 9-11 and illegal immigration are some type of inside job to. Most believe the Bush Administration working for the N W O did it, some believe Zionist Jews did it in order to bring the United states into the Middle East wars for Israel. I generally follow the http://arcticbeacon.com and http://reformation.org view that that 9-11 and illegal immigration were ultimately the projects of the Roman Church and its Jesuit order to restore the "glory" of the medieval ROMAN Theocracy in the form of the New World Order.

Coral Snake  posted on  2007-02-11   1:51:56 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#118. To: FormerLurker, Beachooser (#116)

I say BeAChooser is really David Hasselhoff. That's why he has so much time on his hands...

He/She/It is definitely something that's for sure.

Original_Intent  posted on  2007-02-11   2:01:51 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#119. To: Original_Intent, SKYDRIFTER (#118)

You guys are killing me with these posts to BeAChooser, making me think he might really be here!!!

Diana  posted on  2007-02-11   2:12:15 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#120. To: Original_Intent, christine, Zipporah (#118)

Hey OI, nice to see ya here! Welcome aboard 4um!


You appear to be a major trouble maker...and I'm getting really pissed. - GoldiLox, 7/27/2006

FormerLurker  posted on  2007-02-11   2:13:55 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#121. To: FormerLurker (#114)

The new guy strikes me as some sort of obsessed kook.

Show me the new guy!

Diana  posted on  2007-02-11   2:14:12 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#122. To: Diana (#119)

You guys are killing me with these posts to BeAChooser, making me think he might really be here!!!

There's a good chance it's the real BAC. It appears he's taking the weekend off though, so we'll have to wait for him to respond to some posts before we know for sure...


You appear to be a major trouble maker...and I'm getting really pissed. - GoldiLox, 7/27/2006

FormerLurker  posted on  2007-02-11   2:14:59 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#123. To: BeAChooser (#75)

Hello everyone!

HOLY CRAP!!!!

OMG!!!!!

ROTF.....?? I'm speechless!!!

Diana  posted on  2007-02-11   2:16:57 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#124. To: FormerLurker, BeachOoser (#120)

Hey OI, nice to see ya here! Welcome aboard 4um!

Thanks. I signed up several months ago but am a creature of habit. I guess now that BAC's here I'll have to come over more ofter. You know how much we like each other. :-)

Original_Intent  posted on  2007-02-11   2:18:54 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#125. To: Diana, BeAChooser (#123)

ROTF.....?? I'm speechless!!!

The proper term is ROTFLOL, as made immortal by our new (old) friend. ROTFLOL!!!


You appear to be a major trouble maker...and I'm getting really pissed. - GoldiLox, 7/27/2006

FormerLurker  posted on  2007-02-11   2:19:54 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#126. To: Original_Intent (#124)

Thanks. I signed up several months ago but am a creature of habit. I guess now that BAC's here I'll have to come over more ofter. You know how much we like each other. :-)

We can make ole Oooser feel right at home... LOL


You appear to be a major trouble maker...and I'm getting really pissed. - GoldiLox, 7/27/2006

FormerLurker  posted on  2007-02-11   2:20:55 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#127. To: FormerLurker, SKYDRIFTER (#122)

I am dying here! I think it's really him!

I followed the link back to post #75.... okey, I must breathe slow, breathe slow...

SKYDRIFTER, look, I think it's really him!!

What a blast!

Okey, I'll go read the post now that I've calmed down somewhat.

Diana  posted on  2007-02-11   2:25:07 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#128. To: FormerLurker (#125)

The proper term is ROTFLOL, as made immortal by our new (old) friend. ROTFLOL!!!

I was too choked up to finish it!!!

Diana  posted on  2007-02-11   2:26:46 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#129. To: FormerLurker (#126)

We can make ole Oooser feel right at home... LOL

Let's see:

Boiling Oil? Check!

Thumbscrews? Check!

All systems go!

Conservative, n. A statesman who is enamored of existing evils, as distinguished from the liberal, who wishes to replace them with others. - Ambrose Bierce, The Devil’s Dictionary

Original_Intent  posted on  2007-02-11   2:27:00 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#130. To: Original_Intent (#124)

I guess now that BAC's here I'll have to come over more often

Hi OI. I decided to make this my new home after Goldi-Rob gave me a 14- day "Timeout" for posting a front page story from http://antiwar.com in "Breaking News"

AGAviator  posted on  2007-02-11   2:38:12 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#131. To: BeAChooser, Kamala, Destro (#81)

Good luck here, you may be on island alone on alot of your positions.

Gosh it really is you.

I was surprised you were banned as you were on there for such a long time, and I have to say you were never crude.

It won't be as bad here as you think, people here tend to be civil for the most part.

I think you and Destro will get along quite well and you will find you have a lot in common! It won't seem the same without ROFLOL! and KOOK! though, but it will still be fun that you're here, I think.

Diana  posted on  2007-02-11   2:44:53 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#132. To: Diana (#128)

I was too choked up to finish it!!!

:)


You appear to be a major trouble maker...and I'm getting really pissed. - GoldiLox, 7/27/2006

FormerLurker  posted on  2007-02-11   2:47:49 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#133. To: AGAviator (#130)

I decided to make this my new home after Goldi-Rob gave me a 14- day "Timeout" for posting a front page story from http://antiwar.com in "Breaking News"

Hi back at you.

How dare you post something that is contrary to der party line. Since it would be considered an opinion piece I can see her point, but I have seen worse abuses that resulted in nothing other than the piece being removed from the ticker.

If she were consistent in enforcing her policies it would be one thing but the sometimes capricious way it comes across does rankle.

How I have avoided getting disappeared I don't know. Possibly because she launched a couple of attacks at me and I pinned her ears back by confronting her with facts that backed up my position. For whatever reason I haven't though.

Conservative, n. A statesman who is enamored of existing evils, as distinguished from the liberal, who wishes to replace them with others. - Ambrose Bierce, The Devil’s Dictionary

Original_Intent  posted on  2007-02-11   2:49:02 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#134. To: christine, Ferret Mike, Minerva (#101)

i don't even know what to say. :P

I do, I'm glad I don't live where he lives.

Diana  posted on  2007-02-11   2:52:16 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#135. To: Original_Intent (#133)

Since it would be considered an opinion piece I can see her point

Nope, It was 3 You Tube videos showing American soldiers in Iraq

(1) Bumping vehicles in traffic that didn't get out of their way,

(2) Holding out drinking water from the back of their vehicle to taunt Iraqi kids, and

(3) Using a tank to crush the car of a group of people who were looting firewood

.That is news, especially because it shows what the occupation is really like.

AGAviator  posted on  2007-02-11   2:54:43 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#136. To: BeAChooser, Coral Snake (#117)

I generally follow the http://arcticbeacon.com and http://reformation.org view that that 9-11 and illegal immigration were ultimately the projects of the Roman Church and its Jesuit order to restore the "glory" of the medieval ROMAN Theocracy in the form of the New World Order.

You will find all sorts of viewpoints here.

Diana  posted on  2007-02-11   2:58:41 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#137. To: AGAviator (#135)

Got it. I recall seeing it now. I had one that was yanked at the same time.

Showing things Goldi does not want to have to honestly confront.

Well, I have to be up early so I am out of here. Take care.

Conservative, n. A statesman who is enamored of existing evils, as distinguished from the liberal, who wishes to replace them with others. - Ambrose Bierce, The Devil’s Dictionary

Original_Intent  posted on  2007-02-11   3:06:46 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#138. To: Diana, Christine, Brian S, Honway, Robin, Aristeides, Red Jones, Kamala, All (#127)

I have it on good authority that it really is BAC.

Notice his expected cowardice, as he waits out his reception, so as to formulate a 'position.'

This should be fun.


SKYDRIFTER  posted on  2007-02-11   4:32:59 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#139. To: FormerLurker (#122)

"There's a good chance it's the real BAC. It appears he's taking the weekend off though, so we'll have to wait for him to respond to some posts before we know for sure... "

As the Governator would put it,"he'll be BAC."

"We seek a free flow of information... a nation that is afraid to let its people judge the truth and falsehood in an open market is a nation afraid of its people." --JFK, Feb 1962

Ferret Mike  posted on  2007-02-11   7:37:32 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#140. To: Original_Intent (#133)

hey there, OI, great to see you here. ;)

christine  posted on  2007-02-11   10:37:40 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#141. To: AGAviator (#135)

(2) Holding out drinking water from the back of their vehicle to taunt Iraqi kids, and

that made me physically ill.

christine  posted on  2007-02-11   10:40:59 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#142. To: Diana, be a chooser (#131)

Good luck here, you may be on island alone on alot of your positions.

Gosh it really is you.

Diana, we now have seen it all.

tom007  posted on  2007-02-11   10:42:59 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#143. To: christine (#140)

hey there, OI, great to see you here. ;)

Thank you for the gracious welcome. :-)

Conservative, n. A statesman who is enamored of existing evils, as distinguished from the liberal, who wishes to replace them with others. - Ambrose Bierce, The Devil’s Dictionary

Original_Intent  posted on  2007-02-11   11:13:22 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#144. To: Original_Intent (#143)

Hey, welcome on over. I've read some of your stuff over at LP. There are a couple here that need a good beatdown. I'm sure you'll lend a helping hand.

Mark

"I was real close to Building 7 when it fell down... That didn't sound like just a building falling down to me while I was running away from it. There's a lot of eyewitness testimony down there of hearing explosions. [..] and the whole time you're hearing "boom, boom, boom, boom, boom." I think I know an explosion when I hear it... — Former NYC Police Officer and 9/11 Rescue Worker Craig Bartmer

Kamala  posted on  2007-02-11   12:02:54 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#145. To: Coral Snake (#117)

Your right Coral. I would say around 99% believe 911 was an inside job here at 4UM.

Mark

"I was real close to Building 7 when it fell down... That didn't sound like just a building falling down to me while I was running away from it. There's a lot of eyewitness testimony down there of hearing explosions. [..] and the whole time you're hearing "boom, boom, boom, boom, boom." I think I know an explosion when I hear it... — Former NYC Police Officer and 9/11 Rescue Worker Craig Bartmer

Kamala  posted on  2007-02-11   12:08:03 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#146. To: Destro (#108)

This website is not much better sadly in that it also seeks to narrow focus views rather than expand them and reach consensus.

you're so full of shit. this website doesn't seek to do anything of the kind. posters here are encouraged to post their own opinions. good lord, destro.

christine  posted on  2007-02-11   12:20:48 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#147. To: christine (#146)

Because he is relentlessly mocked he tells himself that it's because he's posting valid points and being punished for that.

He's a geek and won't face it.

If he can't hide his geekiness on the net, then sista, he's got it bad!

HOUNDDAWG  posted on  2007-02-11   12:26:07 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#148. To: HOUNDDAWG, Destro (#147) (Edited)

well, you know, he's been told numerous times, don't let the door hit you...

christine  posted on  2007-02-11   12:28:37 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#149. To: Destro (#108)

"This website is not much better sadly in that it also seeks to narrow focus views rather than expand them and reach consensus."

Dr. Timothy "Destro" Leary

Jethro Tull  posted on  2007-02-11   12:32:13 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#150. To: Morgana le Fay (#62)

We can go visit Ponchy now. I think he is "Savrola" over on Speakeasy. Look what he wrote in his bio:

"Savrola is a broken-down, drunken, bronc-rider, farrier, welder, construction-worker, hack-writer, sometime venture-capitalist and constant gardner. He resides high in the Ozark Mountains of Southern Missouri with his horses, dogs, guns, goats and a retarded young houseboy he imported from Bangkok. He is the off-again, on-again life partner of YertleTurtle.

He is the sworn enemy of Reichsjager.

Retrieved from "http://editthis.info/speakeasy/Savrola"

Bunch of internet bums ... grand jury --- opium den ! ~ byeltsin

Minerva  posted on  2007-02-11   12:41:32 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#151. To: christine (#148)

He needs to reassure himself that he's superior to us.

To read his telling of it, he's so superior that it would be like you or I going to a room filled with profoundly retarded people and watching the poor souls drool just so we can feel good about ourselves.

Actually, that alone wouldn't be enough. We'd have to TELL THEM that they're pathetic and openly gloat that we aren't similarly stricken.

That would be the equivalent of what Destro does here if he is to be believed and he's as superior as he claims.

The part I don't get is, how much satisfaction would you or I get from comparing ourselves to less fortunate souls? Is that something normal, happy, well adjusted people do?

And would you later claim that they gang up on you and mistreat you?

HAH!

"Yeah, those profoundly retarded people cluster and hold me down because my ideas don't fall within their limited framework of acceptability. And, I'm gonna write about it and complain to the whole world! I demand to be accepted by the retards!"

HAH!

HOUNDDAWG  posted on  2007-02-11   12:45:38 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#152. To: HOUNDDAWG, Destro (#151)

"Yeah, those profoundly retarded people cluster and hold me down because my ideas don't fall within their limited framework of acceptability. And, I'm gonna write about it and complain to the whole world! I demand to be accepted by the retards!"

Sounds like all Destro needs is a little banjo music to cheer him up.


You appear to be a major trouble maker...and I'm getting really pissed. - GoldiLox, 7/27/2006

FormerLurker  posted on  2007-02-11   13:14:28 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#153. To: HOUNDDAWG (#147)

If you look at his past postings at other forums, he has either been kicked out, or left because of his positions.

If there is only one view on a thread, he will take the second. If there is two different opinions, he will take the third. If there are 3 different opinions, he will take a 4th.

Its very predictable.

Mark

"I was real close to Building 7 when it fell down... That didn't sound like just a building falling down to me while I was running away from it. There's a lot of eyewitness testimony down there of hearing explosions. [..] and the whole time you're hearing "boom, boom, boom, boom, boom." I think I know an explosion when I hear it... — Former NYC Police Officer and 9/11 Rescue Worker Craig Bartmer

Kamala  posted on  2007-02-11   13:15:02 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#154. To: HOUNDDAWG, christine (#147)

Because he is relentlessly mocked he tells himself that it's because he's posting valid points and being punished for that.

Mocked because I don't believe in UFO conspiracies you inbred American kooks believe in? I must work for the Illuminati.

"The desire to rule is the mother of heresies." -- St. John Chrysostom

Destro  posted on  2007-02-11   15:54:08 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#155. To: Jethro Tull, HOUNDDAWG, christine, AGAviator (#149) (Edited)

"This website is not much better sadly in that it also seeks to narrow focus views rather than expand them and reach consensus."

Dr. Timothy "Destro" Leary

Leary was about "consciousness" not consensus you hick.

Jethro just proved my point HOUNDDAWG & christine.

"The desire to rule is the mother of heresies." -- St. John Chrysostom

Destro  posted on  2007-02-11   15:56:12 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#156. To: FormerLurker, HOUNDDAWG (#152)

Sadly, I think that is what Americans have degenerated into. Inbred-Crackers.

"The desire to rule is the mother of heresies." -- St. John Chrysostom

Destro  posted on  2007-02-11   15:57:50 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#157. To: Destro (#155)

I beg your pardon? So youre saying when you say something that people believe is outrageous or whatever and others point it out... that the 'forum' is "narrowing focus views" ? As I've said b/f, if you want or feel that viewpoints should be expanded upon it's in your court.. no one else has a responsibility to do so.. if you want to expand on viewpoints have at it.. if it's something of interest people will be engaged in a discussion .. if not it will die.. so dont try to imply that it's the fault of the forum or me or Christine .. for you, it's 'mirror time' ..

Zipporah  posted on  2007-02-11   16:03:12 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#158. To: Kamala, HOUNDDAWG, AGAviator (#153) (Edited)

If you look at his past postings at other forums, he has either been kicked out, or left because of his positions.

I am very proud of that fact.

Why would you see this as a mark of shame? Being banned by Freerepublic and libertypost is an honor.

My views have always been consistent and not simply contrarian. AGAviator has known my posting history and he can vouch for that at least.

"The desire to rule is the mother of heresies." -- St. John Chrysostom

Destro  posted on  2007-02-11   16:06:02 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#159. To: Zipporah (#157) (Edited)

So youre saying when you say something that people believe is outrageous or whatever and others point it out... that the 'forum' is "narrowing focus views" ?

Nope.

I said that there is no dialogue here. Proof is when I just mentioned that the the thesis that demolition charges were set off in a synchronized effort with the plane collision I was called a disinfo agent. That told me all I need to know of the thinking capacity of some here.

"The desire to rule is the mother of heresies." -- St. John Chrysostom

Destro  posted on  2007-02-11   16:09:48 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#160. To: Destro (#159)

I said that there is no dialogue here.

Then have at it..

Zipporah  posted on  2007-02-11   16:12:35 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#161. To: Zipporah (#160)

Then have at it..

I will try even when I am called a govt disinfo agent.

"The desire to rule is the mother of heresies." -- St. John Chrysostom

Destro  posted on  2007-02-11   16:14:53 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#162. To: Destro (#161)

Are you?? :P (Just joking btw ... )

......so which is worse a govt disinfo agent or an Art Bell type ? :P

Zipporah  posted on  2007-02-11   16:17:41 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#163. To: Kamala, Minerva, Zipporah, christine (#153)

LOL!

I wouldn't know! I don't read his gibberish!

It would appear that I've got him foaming at the mouth if the number of flags I see from him are any indication!

LMAO!

HOUNDDAWG  posted on  2007-02-11   17:01:04 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#164. To: HOUNDDAWG (#163)

It would appear that I've got him foaming at the mouth if the number of flags I see from him are any indication!

lol

christine  posted on  2007-02-11   17:01:52 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#165. To: Destro, Christine, Brian S, Honway, Robin, Aristeides, Red Jones, Diana, Kamala, All (#108)

This website is not much better sadly in that it also seeks to narrow focus views rather than expand them and reach consensus.

We live in a world of clever and methodically manufactured consensus - ala Effer & ElPee.

If there's any true consensus - of any kind - on this forum, it goes to the legacy of the inside-job of 9-11.

This forum is everything that Effer & ElPee claimed to be - then methodically betrayed.

Sure, this forum has a narrow focus on the truth - as God knows it. I hope no one has any objections there.


SKYDRIFTER  posted on  2007-02-11   17:11:54 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#166. To: Destro (#158) (Edited)

Being banned by Freerepublic and libertypost is an honor

Liberty Forum is the cyber-equivalent of an abandoned property that has been taken over by street people where people have contests to see who can scream the loudest and the longest.

You have an "absentee landlord," and at least 3 different cults who abuse the post ratings system to build their own group up and tear down any opposition.

If this is an example of "Libertarianism" in action, I heartily recommend anyone who is remotely interested in "Libertarianism" to see first-hand how it works in the real world.

Bozo List: (1) Angle, (2) Kamala

AGAviator  posted on  2007-02-11   18:42:38 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#167. To: AGAviator, SKYDRIFTER, Christine, Brian S, Honway, Robin, Aristeides, Red Jones, Diana, Kamala (#166) (Edited)

If this is an example of "Libertarianism" in action, I heartily recommend anyone who is remotely interested in "Libertarianism" to see first- hand how it works in the real world.

There are a few good forums out there for those right of center and this one is not so bad but they are not influential - just a place where what is left of the true right movement not attached to kooks like race supremacists and the like can go and vent.

For the foreseeable future the only right wing websites that will matter in terms of influence are the Bush bot Christian Zionist rapture is nigh Freeper types.

The left wing has Dailykos - an impressive web forum community made up of smart posters and rational people even if I disagree with their politics for the most part.

"The desire to rule is the mother of heresies." -- St. John Chrysostom

Destro  posted on  2007-02-11   21:20:36 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#168. To: SKYDRIFTER, ALL, DESTRO (#165) (Edited)

it also seeks to narrow focus views rather than expand them and reach consensus.

Sure, this forum has a narrow focus on the truth - as God knows it. I hope no one has any objections there.

Well said Sky.

There can be no consensus on a "wide" view of the Truth, for it then becomes something other than truth. The Truth is as it is. It is the job of all writers and scientists to start WIDE and to gradually NARROW their thoughts and mental focus until the essay or hypothesis is refined, and the Truth is discovered...not the other way around. Songs, essays, persuasive writing, the scientific method...all begin as vague and all encompassing and gradually reveal their truths through elimination and eventual specificity.

Law Enforcement Against Prohibition




In a CorporoFascist capitalist society, there is no money in peace, freedom, or a healthy population, and therefore, no incentive to achieve these - - IndieTX

In a time of universal deceit, telling the truth is a revolutionary act - - George Orwell

IndieTX  posted on  2007-02-11   21:29:13 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#169. To: Kamala (#81) (Edited)

There is no such thing here at 4UM as uncivil or disruptive.

Actually that is not quite accurate. People have been banned from this forum for being uncivil. Yes, this forum is much more tolerant of foul language, but there are limits. It is not a family forum nor does it claim to be one like LP does though. So there is no hypocrisy among the owners of the forum here that I can see.

God is always good!
"It was an interesting day." - President Bush, recalling 9/11 [White House, 1/5/02]

RickyJ  posted on  2007-02-11   21:39:37 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#170. To: Destro (#154)

Mocked because I don't believe in UFO conspiracies you inbred American kooks believe in? I must work for the Illuminati.

Ponchy?

Is that you?

Bunch of internet bums ... grand jury --- opium den ! ~ byeltsin

Minerva  posted on  2007-02-11   22:09:12 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#171. To: Minerva (#170)

Ponchy?

Never heard of the fellow.

"The desire to rule is the mother of heresies." -- St. John Chrysostom

Destro  posted on  2007-02-11   22:09:59 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#172. To: HOUNDDAWG (#147)

He's a geek and won't face it.

Deserto a geek? I don't know about that, he seems crazy to me. The geeks I know aren't crazy at all.

God is always good!
"It was an interesting day." - President Bush, recalling 9/11 [White House, 1/5/02]

RickyJ  posted on  2007-02-11   22:10:48 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#173. To: BeAChooser (#75)

I am really not sure why you decided to post here. The only thing most of the people here have in common with you is that we were also banned by Goldi. This forum doesn't get as much traffic as LP does. There are plenty of other forums out there that get more traffic than this one that also have 9/11 discussions, so why are you here?

God is always good!
"It was an interesting day." - President Bush, recalling 9/11 [White House, 1/5/02]

RickyJ  posted on  2007-02-11   22:28:08 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#174. To: RickyJ (#173) (Edited)

Clinton had Ron Brown brought back to life as a zombie which then smuggled the WMD into Syria. I have a seven year old NewsMax article to prove it! And if you argue with me I'll post a 900 word screed quoting Little Green Footballs!

ROTFLOL!!

Kooks!!

Clinonistas!!

BAC  posted on  2007-02-11   23:12:27 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#175. To: BAC (#174) (Edited)

Clinton had Ron Brown brought back to life as a zombie which then smuggled the WMD into Syria.

Actually that would be much more believable than the government's version of events about 9/11/2001.

God is always good!
"It was an interesting day." - President Bush, recalling 9/11 [White House, 1/5/02]

RickyJ  posted on  2007-02-11   23:18:09 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#176. To: RickyJ (#175)

Clinton started an Iraqi on false WMD claims too. The liberal press just didn't report it. But I have a WND article from 1981 that proves it.

BAC  posted on  2007-02-11   23:25:26 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#177. To: RickyJ (#175)

Clinton bombed Pearl Harbor too. The liberal press blamed it on the japs.

BAC  posted on  2007-02-11   23:27:09 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#178. To: BAC (#177)

Clinton bombed Pearl Harbor too. The liberal press blamed it on the japs.

lol

christine  posted on  2007-02-11   23:35:59 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#179. To: RickyJ (#172) (Edited)

He's a geek and won't face it.

Deserto a geek? I don't know about that, he seems crazy to me. The geeks I know aren't crazy at all.

"Geek" as in "bite the heads off of baby ducks and chickens in a carny sideshow."

I'm old enough to remember this:

"Etymology

It is commonly believed that the word "geek" originates with side-show "circus geeks" — performers at carnivals who swallow various live animals, live insects, and so forth. Sometimes this would extend to biting the heads off of snakes, chickens, or other living animals."__wiki

HOUNDDAWG  posted on  2007-02-11   23:36:34 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#180. To: IndieTX, SKYDRIFTER, Destro, all (#168)

There can be no consensus on a "wide" view of the Truth, for it then becomes something other than truth. The Truth is as it is. It is the job of all writers and scientists to start WIDE and to gradually NARROW their thoughts and mental focus until the essay or hypothesis is refined, and the Truth is discovered...not the other way around. Songs, essays, persuasive writing, the scientific method...all begin as vague and all encompassing and gradually reveal their truths through elimination and eventual specificity.

The Truth is really quite a simple thing.

It is the exact time, place, form, and event. Any alteration to any one of those four elements is an alteration of the i.e., it is a lie.

Having said that the truth can sometimes be an elusive critter. It is not that it is not possible to know it but that it can be obscured or less than obvious on a first glance.

So, to find it we do have to narrow it to the simplicity i.e., that which is the exact time, place, form, and event; nothing more, and nothing less.

Conservative, n. A statesman who is enamored of existing evils, as distinguished from the liberal, who wishes to replace them with others. - Ambrose Bierce, The Devil’s Dictionary

Original_Intent  posted on  2007-02-11   23:37:10 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#181. To: RickyJ, BAC (#173)

"I am really not sure why you decided to post here. The only thing most of the people here have in common with you is that we were also banned by Goldi. This forum doesn't get as much traffic as LP does. There are plenty of other forums out there that get more traffic than this one that also have 9/11 discussions, so why are you here?"

Necause though we would have more fun pummeling Ghost of Quantrill we can only afford to hire BAC as a whipping boy? Just guessing mind you.

(Welcome BAC.)

"We seek a free flow of information... a nation that is afraid to let its people judge the truth and falsehood in an open market is a nation afraid of its people." --JFK, Feb 1962

Ferret Mike  posted on  2007-02-11   23:57:52 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#182. To: Kamala (#144)

Hey, welcome on over. I've read some of your stuff over at LP. There are a couple here that need a good beatdown. I'm sure you'll lend a helping hand.

Thanks. I'll have to get acquainted before doing too much. Although, some of the names are familiar. :-)

Conservative, n. A statesman who is enamored of existing evils, as distinguished from the liberal, who wishes to replace them with others. - Ambrose Bierce, The Devil’s Dictionary

Original_Intent  posted on  2007-02-12   0:09:42 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#183. To: Minerva, YertleTurtle (#150)

He resides high in the Ozark Mountains of Southern Missouri with his horses, dogs, guns, goats and a retarded young houseboy he imported from Bangkok. He is the off-again, on-again life partner of YertleTurtle.

!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

Diana  posted on  2007-02-12   4:00:12 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#184. To: HOUNDDAWG, christine, Minerva, ferret mike (#151)

He needs to reassure himself that he's superior to us.

To read his telling of it, he's so superior that it would be like you or I going to a room filled with profoundly retarded people and watching the poor souls drool just so we can feel good about ourselves.

There are a few of those types around.

I find that mindset very odd.

And people like that really do feel that way.

Diana  posted on  2007-02-12   4:05:42 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#185. To: HOUNDDAWG (#179)

It is commonly believed that the word "geek" originates with side-show "circus geeks" — performers at carnivals who swallow various live animals, live insects, and so forth. Sometimes this would extend to biting the heads off of snakes, chickens, or other living animals."__wiki

Wow, geeks were originally cool! :)

God is always good!
"It was an interesting day." - President Bush, recalling 9/11 [White House, 1/5/02]

RickyJ  posted on  2007-02-12   4:08:38 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#186. To: Destro (#156) (Edited)

Sadly, I think that is what Americans have degenerated into. Inbred-Crackers.

Where are you getting your stereotypes from?

One source I know of is the documentaries on British tv stations which are broadcast all over Europe, as they do like to portray that about Americans. It has nothing to do with reality, they are a total distortion designed to make Europeans hate Americans (on a personal level at that) even more than they already do.

Don't fall for the propaganda because that's exactly what it is. This country is being purposely brought down and too many of it's people are pawns in the process.

Diana  posted on  2007-02-12   4:13:14 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#187. To: IndieTX, Destro, SKYDRIFTER, All (#168)

It is the job of all writers and scientists to start WIDE and to gradually NARROW their thoughts and mental focus until the essay or hypothesis is refined, and the Truth is discovered...not the other way around.

Very well stated, everyone should pay special attention to this.

Diana  posted on  2007-02-12   4:51:48 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#188. To: Diana (#183)

He resides high in the Ozark Mountains of Southern Missouri with his horses, dogs, guns, goats and a retarded young houseboy he imported from Bangkok. He is the off-again, on-again life partner of YertleTurtle.

I am like so creeped out.

"We become what we behold. We shape our tools and thereafter our tools shape us." -- Marshall McLuhan, after Alexander Pope and William Blake.

YertleTurtle  posted on  2007-02-12   5:05:40 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#189. To: YertleTurtle (#188) (Edited)

I would be.

He must've seen your pictures or something and is engaging in wishful thinking.

Diana  posted on  2007-02-12   5:30:50 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#190. To: Diana, christine, Zipporah, lodwick, IndieTX, Jethro Tull, rowdee, robin, Minerva (#184)

There are a few of those types around.

I find that mindset very odd.

And people like that really do feel that way.

I think that a person who signs on the internet and makes a point of showing people an unpleasant side is OCD.

It's just as easy to be likeable and respectful of others' feelings, but, like a kid who plays with the phone by crank calling when mom is out hanging up laundry, it isn't as much fun I guess.

The operative word is kid.

Some are compulsive booger eaters, and some are "vastly superior to the rest of us". ;)

HOUNDDAWG  posted on  2007-02-12   5:48:51 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#191. To: Diana (#189)

He must've seen your pictures or something and is engaging in wishful thinking.

I've got a really cute booty.

"We become what we behold. We shape our tools and thereafter our tools shape us." -- Marshall McLuhan, after Alexander Pope and William Blake.

YertleTurtle  posted on  2007-02-12   5:49:20 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#192. To: YertleTurtle (#188)

I am like so creeped out.

I had a really creepy feeling when I read that.

I thought he may kidnap you and make you sing the LOVE THEME FROM DELIVERANCE (squeal like a pig.)

HOUNDDAWG  posted on  2007-02-12   5:56:56 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#193. To: YertleTurtle (#191)

I've got a really cute booty.

Uh oh...

Diana  posted on  2007-02-12   6:06:28 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#194. To: HOUNDDAWG, YertleTurtle (#190)

and some are "vastly superior to the rest of us". ;)

And what's so strange about it is that it has nothing to do with reality, people's images of themselves have nothing to do with the way they really are in many cases.

To me a very good example is that really creepy poster who got booted off here recently. I tend to be trusting by nature (maybe too much at times) and I like most people (and posters), but that one put out some really bad vibes in addition to having that "superior" mentality when he/she/it was obviously anything but.

Diana  posted on  2007-02-12   6:18:39 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#195. To: Diana, christine, Zipporah, lodwick, IndieTX, Jethro Tull, rowdee, robin, Minerva (#194)

And what's so strange about it is that it has nothing to do with reality, people's images of themselves have nothing to do with the way they really are in many cases.

Ya think? [wink]

Destro is a demented dwarf who sits on a stack of phone books to reach the keyboard, but in his fantasy world he's "vastly superior to the rest of us!"

HOUNDDAWG  posted on  2007-02-12   6:27:47 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#196. To: SKYDRIFTER, *9-11* (#165)

You are dead on. 99% of 4UM knows that 911 was an inside job. it truely maybe the one issue everyone agrees on.

Mark

"I was real close to Building 7 when it fell down... That didn't sound like just a building falling down to me while I was running away from it. There's a lot of eyewitness testimony down there of hearing explosions. [..] and the whole time you're hearing "boom, boom, boom, boom, boom." I think I know an explosion when I hear it... — Former NYC Police Officer and 9/11 Rescue Worker Craig Bartmer

Kamala  posted on  2007-02-12   6:40:47 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#197. To: Diana (#193)

I've got a really cute booty.

Uh oh...

It's a curse!

"We become what we behold. We shape our tools and thereafter our tools shape us." -- Marshall McLuhan, after Alexander Pope and William Blake.

YertleTurtle  posted on  2007-02-12   7:05:25 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#198. To: Minerva (#170)

36. To: FormerLurker (#32)

So why do you wish to murder those innocent believers? Let us parse what the quote means and then discuss our understanding of your ignorant words.

Murder: To unlawfully kill. When we destroy the filthy Muslims it will be a lawful killing, not murder. Murder is what the Muslims do to Israelis using their women and children as suicide bombers, the filthy pig dogs.

Innocent believers: To be innocent of their beliefs would mean they know not what they read (if they can, as Muslims are among the most illiterate peoples of the world, held down so by their religion), know not of what they pray, know not of what they chant, know not of what they train for, disavow the killing (actual murder) they do, disavow the throat cutting, the burning, the bombing, and deny the filthy, stinking, Muslims madmen their allegiance.

They are far from innocent and I wish not to murder them, but kill them we must, as one must kill the vermin in ones home.

Final Authority posted on 2007-02-12 14:58:21 ET

Hers a guy who would flesh out the vacancy created by the departure of Buck and ponchy. He is wasting his talent pastiness and shilling for Israel at elpee.

And if we could get him to come over and play, I'm sure fun would b had by all.

"We seek a free flow of information... a nation that is afraid to let its people judge the truth and falsehood in an open market is a nation afraid of its people." --JFK, Feb 1962

Ferret Mike  posted on  2007-02-12   16:14:57 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#199. To: Destro, Christine, Brian S, Honway, Robin, Aristeides, Red Jones, Diana, Kamala, All (#154)

I must work for the Illuminati.

I thought that was supposed to be my job!


SKYDRIFTER  posted on  2007-02-12   16:43:46 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


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