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Title: BAC: Goldi-Lox is a Kook!
Source: LP
URL Source: http://www.libertypost.org/cgi-bin/ ... i?ArtNum=175627&Disp=All&#C185
Published: Feb 6, 2007
Author: BAC
Post Date: 2007-02-06 11:38:51 by BAC
Keywords: None
Views: 17528
Comments: 199

ROTFLOL!

Clintonistas!

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#27. To: honway (#24)

I have a great deal of information archived on LP concerning the WTC 1993 bombing, the OKC bombing and 9/11 and would not risk that being pulled by trying to bypass a banning by the webmaster.

That's probably one of the reasons why he made the accusation, to see if he could trick Goldi into doing something extreme. Although it's never good to see someone get banned, I think in his case, it was for the best.

He was determined to intimidate and badger anyone not falling into line with his "official view", and if someone was a bit more than he could personally handle, he'd cry to Goldi with all sorts of wild stories and accusations.

Unfortunately for him, he pulled his crap at the wrong time, on the wrong thread, trying to silence a few people who had just recently opened their eyes concerning 9/11, who were talking about the amnesty provision in the minimum wage bill.

He got his ass whooped by the posters for one, and Goldi had already told him several times to cut the crap, she wasn't interested. But he persisted...

Oh well, as already mentioned, he'll probably ooze his way back, if he's not already there as someone else. He'll just have to watch the words KOOK and ROTFLOL!...


You appear to be a major trouble maker...and I'm getting really pissed. - GoldiLox, 7/27/2006

FormerLurker  posted on  2007-02-06   17:38:18 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#28. To: FormerLurker (#27)

Oh well, as already mentioned, he'll probably ooze his way back, if he's not already there as someone else.

He spent years establishing the screen name persona of BeAChooser. And now those many hours,weeks,months and even years are gone. Wasted.He can't show up anywhere with that screen name again. That has got to be difficult.

honway  posted on  2007-02-06   17:52:36 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#29. To: honway (#28)

He spent years establishing the screen name persona of BeAChooser. And now those many hours,weeks,months and even years are gone. Wasted.He can't show up anywhere with that screen name again. That has got to be difficult.

Excuse me if a shed a tear..ok, I'm better now. ROTFLOL!!!!!

His name is carved into Internet lore as a government shill. He and/or his handlers probably decided it best he do a hari-kari and resurrect himself as a new identity, as BeAChooser was no longer effective.


You appear to be a major trouble maker...and I'm getting really pissed. - GoldiLox, 7/27/2006

FormerLurker  posted on  2007-02-06   17:57:47 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#30. To: FormerLurker (#29)

His name is carved into Internet lore as a government shill.

Well put.

honway  posted on  2007-02-06   18:03:24 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#31. To: honway (#28)

He spent years establishing the screen name persona of BeAChooser.

He, or they?

Katrina was America's Chernobyl.

aristeides  posted on  2007-02-06   19:04:07 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#32. To: aristeides, honway, Former Lurker (#31)

honway: He spent years establishing the screen name persona of BeAChooser.

aristeides: He, or they?

He, they, whatever - BAC has been quite successful in deflecting everyone's attention on this forum at least from the issue that might be more worthy of discussion ie. the amnesty bill hidden in the minimum wage pending legislation and the ramifications.

Doesn't anyone at 4um care about that issue and what if anything can be done to stop it from becoming law?

Maybe it's because I don't share a common history with you guys and BAC - but honestly if he's as much of a gov't shill as you describe him to be - why waste your energy on the guy? I don't get it.

Goldi seems to have been right to bounce him and she seems right to focus everyone's energies at LP discussing the amnesty leg. Perhaps that's something we should do here too, do you think???

scrapper2  posted on  2007-02-06   19:25:20 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#33. To: scrapper2 (#32)

Perhaps that's something we should do here too, do you think???

What do you suggest? It certainly would need its own thread. There's numbers to call as far as senators, congressmen, as well as the news media. Do we have the people here to take that sort of initiative?


You appear to be a major trouble maker...and I'm getting really pissed. - GoldiLox, 7/27/2006

FormerLurker  posted on  2007-02-06   19:32:27 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#34. To: FormerLurker (#33)

Register as a Democrat, that will show them!

sometimes there just aren't enough belgians

Dakmar  posted on  2007-02-06   19:41:25 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#35. To: Fred Mertz (#2)

As much as I find BAC annoying, he backs up most of his points of view with (goobermint) documentation.

Manufactured facts are so often contrary to real facts, Fred.

I thought you knew that?

sometimes there just aren't enough belgians

Dakmar  posted on  2007-02-06   19:43:31 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#36. To: FormerLurker (#33)

What do you suggest? It certainly would need its own thread. There's numbers to call as far as senators, congressmen, as well as the news media. Do we have the people here to take that sort of initiative?

a. I'd suggest we link to the LP thread as it's own article - LP has done the foot work so why re-work the wheel. I can do that.

b. And I'd also suggest that like LP'ers, we email a dozen of the talk jocks even if it means we have to contact folks we normally don't like to listen to regarding war - the talking heads on radio are more likely to run with this story than the TV guys who by and large want shamnesty to take place. There was a site that an LP'er posted that gave most of the email addressses of the top 100 radio talk show hosts in the country.

http://www.talkers.com/main/index. php? option=com_content&task=view&id=19&Itemid=44

"The 100 most important hosts now ranked"

c. Whether or not 4um folks have the initiative to do this type of email canvasing, I can't say. But it wouldn't hurt to put up the info. Who knows - maybe even some lurkers might do it, too.

d. I don't like this amnesty bill being hidden in another one, for one thing, that smells to me. And also I don't like the fact that there are so many oddball phrases in it - referring to worldwide quotas, the Sect'y of State under taking this immigration guest worker legislation, and also our government "helping" the Mexican gov't build hospitals there ( why?)don't the Mexican oligarchs have enough stolen $ to afford building the basic necessities themselves? and also there's no mention of changing the anchor baby practice so what if those guest worker families have an American born kid, who's going to force the whole lot of them to go back to Mexico once their job dries up stateside?

scrapper2  posted on  2007-02-06   20:32:56 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#37. To: scrapper2 (#32)

He, they, whatever - BAC has been quite successful in deflecting everyone's attention on this forum at least from the issue that might be more worthy of discussion ie. the amnesty bill hidden in the minimum wage pending legislation and the ramifications.

Doesn't anyone at 4um care about that issue and what if anything can be done to stop it from becoming law?

Could you cut and paste the specific language in the pending legislation that discusses amnesty to a reply on this thread? Thanks.

honway  posted on  2007-02-06   20:46:31 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#38. To: christine (#12)

I'm amused at this thread, quite amused. ROTFLOL!

"We are Americans. This is our country. He, who would take it from us, by force or by stealth, is our enemy. And it is our purpose -- nay, it is our duty, to our children and to their children and to our yet unborn posterity -- to use all feasible means to destroy him." Dr. Revilo P. Oliver

BTP Holdings  posted on  2007-02-06   20:54:01 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#39. To: SKYDRIFTER (#23)

Hey SKY, remember when we double teamed BAC and had him posting gibberish? Soon thereafter he disappeared for a couple months for a PSYOPS refresher course. ;0)

"We are Americans. This is our country. He, who would take it from us, by force or by stealth, is our enemy. And it is our purpose -- nay, it is our duty, to our children and to their children and to our yet unborn posterity -- to use all feasible means to destroy him." Dr. Revilo P. Oliver

BTP Holdings  posted on  2007-02-06   20:57:10 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#40. To: BTP Holdings (#39)

Yeah, that was fun. BAC regained ten years on his life, when Goldi banned me.

What a sorry piece of shit, BAC is. {.... and Goldi.}


SKYDRIFTER  posted on  2007-02-06   21:07:44 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#41. To: Dakmar (#34)

Register as a Democrat, that will show them!

Hmmm. Don't think so, but I might just for grins... (chuckle)


You appear to be a major trouble maker...and I'm getting really pissed. - GoldiLox, 7/27/2006

FormerLurker  posted on  2007-02-06   21:14:01 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#42. To: scrapper2 (#36)

I'd suggest we link to the LP thread as it's own article - LP has done the foot work so why re-work the wheel. I can do that.

Looks like those folks got all riled up over nothing. There's nothing concerning amnesty in any of the amendments, or in the bill itself. I couldn't figure out what they were so worked up about, as I didn't see anything definitive last night.

As I looked into it a bit further, there's nothing in regards to amnesty in any part of the bill or the amendments.


You appear to be a major trouble maker...and I'm getting really pissed. - GoldiLox, 7/27/2006

FormerLurker  posted on  2007-02-06   21:16:44 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#43. To: FormerLurker (#41)

Have you considered a bumper sticker? That seems to be the forum of the future.
please kill me :)

sometimes there just aren't enough belgians

Dakmar  posted on  2007-02-06   21:16:54 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#44. To: honway (#37)

Could you cut and paste the specific language in the pending legislation that discusses amnesty to a reply on this thread? Thanks.

There's nothing that I could find honway, I think it's a false alarm.


You appear to be a major trouble maker...and I'm getting really pissed. - GoldiLox, 7/27/2006

FormerLurker  posted on  2007-02-06   21:17:27 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#45. To: Dakmar (#43) (Edited)

Have you considered a bumper sticker?

please kill me :)

How about, "I voted for Bush". That might work.

That's a joke BTW... LOL


You appear to be a major trouble maker...and I'm getting really pissed. - GoldiLox, 7/27/2006

FormerLurker  posted on  2007-02-06   21:18:49 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#46. To: FormerLurker, honway (#44)

There's nothing that I could find honway, I think it's a false alarm.

It's not a false alarm.

I just posted the LP thread with the Senate Amendment 187 to the previous House Resolution and previous Senate Bill.

http://www.libertypost.org/cgi-bin/readart.cgi? ArtNum=175808&Disp=Refresh&

AND

http://www.libertypost.org/cgi-bin/readart.cgi? ArtNum=175627&Disp=283#283

This was the original SB 1097-1102 passed January 24, 2007. Just page forward.

http://frwebgate.access.gpo.gov/cgi-bin/getpage.cgi? dbname=2007_record&page=S1091&position=all

You need to cut and paste the urls. Neil's software is not agreeable to any long links I try to post as live links here.

scrapper2  posted on  2007-02-06   21:29:22 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#47. To: scrapper2 (#46)

I don't see anything about amnesty. Please post an excerpt that refers to that topic.


You appear to be a major trouble maker...and I'm getting really pissed. - GoldiLox, 7/27/2006

FormerLurker  posted on  2007-02-06   22:27:42 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#48. To: FormerLurker (#47)

I don't see anything about amnesty. Please post an excerpt that refers to that topic.

Thank you for revealing yourself and your hidden agenda.

Forgiving illegals for breaking our national immigration laws and giving them "magique" rabbit out of the hat legal status is AMNESTY, n'est pas?

Or are you going to argue that paying a fine makes everything fair and square with the US taxpayers and we should overlook the fact that illegal aliens not only broke our laws but also took advantage of our education, social, and welfare services in many many instances, not to mention that their illegal behavior served to displace those who have patiently waited in the legal immigration queue for years.

You and I are done.

scrapper2  posted on  2007-02-06   22:40:26 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#49. To: scrapper2 (#48)

Thank you for revealing yourself and your hidden agenda.

Quit your bitching and post the damn info if you have it.

Or is it that you DON'T know what the hell you are talking about maybe, and that is why you need to get all pissy when I ask a simple question?


You appear to be a major trouble maker...and I'm getting really pissed. - GoldiLox, 7/27/2006

FormerLurker  posted on  2007-02-06   22:41:38 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#50. To: scrapper2 (#48)

Forgiving illegals for breaking our national immigration laws and giving them "magique" rabbit out of the hat legal status is AMNESTY, n'est pas?

As far as I can tell, you're talking to yourself, as I'm certainly not for granting amnesty to illegals. I just asked for something other than links to thousands of pages of legalize in regards to what you are claiming. So far, I've seen NOTHING that reflects what you and others on LP are claiming.

If you have a problem with that, tough shit.


You appear to be a major trouble maker...and I'm getting really pissed. - GoldiLox, 7/27/2006

FormerLurker  posted on  2007-02-06   22:44:27 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#51. To: scrapper2 (#48)

You and I are done.

Ah shucks, and I was starting to have fun. Good riddence asshole.


You appear to be a major trouble maker...and I'm getting really pissed. - GoldiLox, 7/27/2006

FormerLurker  posted on  2007-02-06   22:45:41 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#52. To: BAC (#0) (Edited)

Here is the actual ban notice to BeAChooser:

293. To: BeAChooser (#235)

Okay that's IT!!

Your actions here can be categorized as clearly disruptive.

Disruptive to this thread and disruptive to it's important message

Disruptive to everyone of those who are working to get info out that is critical for this nation.

And frankly...I've had enough. As has everyone else on this board.

SO, You are ...

TOTALLY AND FOREVER OUTTA HERE!!!

Take your crap and post it someplace else. I'm classifying you now as a disruptor.

You are BANNED!!!

Goldi-Lox posted on 2007-02-06 11:12:05 ET Reply Trace

Coral Snake  posted on  2007-02-06   23:12:09 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#53. To: Coral Snake (#52)

She didn't really ban me. The Ron Brown zombie was standing in for me there. The same one that Clinton brought back to life and used to hide the WMD in Syria. That's who she actually banned.

ROTFLOL!

KOOKS!

BAC  posted on  2007-02-06   23:19:27 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#54. To: honway, scrapper2, christine (#37)

I located the following info by looking up Secure America and Orderly Immigration Act with Google, then correlating the appropriate section with Senate Amendment 187, HR.2, that I found on Thomas.

In the PROPOSED McCain Kennedy Secure America and Orderly Immigration Act, the text reads as follows;

From Summary of the Secure America and Orderly Immigration Act

TITLE VII – H-5B Non-Immigrants 


Whereas what Congress actually passed is as follows;

From TEXT OF AMENDMENTS -- (Senate - January 24, 2007)

   ``Sec..250A..H- 5B nonimmigrants.''.

   SEC. 1702. ADJUSTMENT OF STATUS FOR H- 5B NONIMMIGRANTS.

    (a) In General.--Chapter 5 of title II of the Immigration and Nationality Act (8 U.S.C. 1255 et seq.) is amended by inserting after section 245A the following:

   ``ADJUSTMENT OF STATUS OF FORMER H-5B NONIMMIGRANT TO THAT OF PERSON ADMITTED FOR LAWFUL PERMANENT RESIDENCE

    ``Sec. 245B. (a) Requirements.- -The Secretary shall adjust the status of an alien from nonimmigrant status under section 101(a)(15)(H)(v)(b) to that of an alien lawfully admitted for permanent residence under this section if the alien satisfies the following requirements:

    ``(1) COMPLETION OF EMPLOYMENT OR EDUCATION REQUIREMENT.--The alien establishes that the alien has been employed in the United States, either full time, part time, seasonally, or self- employed, or has met the education requirements of subsection (f) or (g) of section 250A during the period required by section 250A (e).

    ``(2) RULEMAKING.--The Secretary shall establish regulations for the timely filing and processing of applications for adjustment of status for nonimmigrants under section 101(a)(15)(H)(v) (b).

    ``(3) APPLICATION AND FEE.--The alien who applies for adjustment of status under this section shall pay the following:

    ``(A) APPLICATION FEE.--An alien who files an application under section 245B of the Immigration and Nationality Act, shall pay an application fee, set by the Secretary.

    ``(B) ADDITIONAL FINE.--Before the adjudication of an application for adjustment of status filed under this section, an alien who is at least 21 years of age shall pay a fine of $1,000.

    ``(4) ADMISSIBLE UNDER IMMIGRATION LAWS.--The alien establishes that the alien is not inadmissible under section 212(a), except for any provision of that section that is not applicable or waived under section 250A(d) (2).

    ``(5) MEDICAL EXAMINATION.--The alien shall undergo, at the alien's expense, an appropriate medical examination (including a determination of immunization status) that conforms to generally accepted professional standards of medical practice.

    ``(6) PAYMENT OF INCOME TAXES.--

    ``(A) IN GENERAL.- -Not later than the date on which status is adjusted under this section, the alien shall establish the payment of all Federal income taxes owed for employment during the period of employment required by section 250A(e) by establishing that--

    ``(i) no such tax liability exists;

    ``(ii) all outstanding liabilities have been met; or

    ``(iii) the alien has entered into an agreement for payment of all outstanding liabilities with the Internal Revenue Service.

    ``(B) IRS COOPERATION.--The Commissioner of Internal Revenue shall provide documentation to an alien upon request to establish the payment of all income taxes required by this paragraph.

    ``(7) BASIC CITIZENSHIP SKILLS.--

    ``(A) IN GENERAL.--Except as provided in subparagraph (B), the alien shall establish that the alien--

    ``(i) meets the requirements of section 312; or

    ``(ii) is satisfactorily pursuing a course of study to achieve such an understanding of English and knowledge and understanding of the history and government of the United States.

    ``(B) RELATION TO NATURALIZATION EXAMINATION.--An alien who demonstrates that the alien meets the requirements of section 312 may be considered to have satisfied the requirements of that section for purposes of becoming naturalized as a citizen of the United States under title III.

    ``(8) SECURITY AND LAW ENFORCEMENT BACKGROUND CHECKS.--The Secretary shall conduct a security and law enforcement background check in accordance with procedures described in section 250A(h).

    ``(9) MILITARY SELECTIVE SERVICE.--The alien shall establish that if the alien is within the age period required under the Military Selective Service Act (50 U.S.C. App. 451 et seq.), that such alien has registered under that Act.

    ``(b) Treatment of Spouses and Children.--

    ``(1) ADJUSTMENT OF STATUS.--Notwithstanding any other provision of law, the Secretary of Homeland Security shall--

    ``(A) adjust the status to that of a lawful permanent resident under this section, or provide an immigrant visa to the spouse or child of an alien who adjusts status to that of a permanent resident under this section; or

    ``(B) adjust the status to that of a lawful permanent resident under this section for an alien who was the spouse or child of an alien who adjusts status or is eligible to adjust status to that of a permanent resident under section 245B in accordance with subsection (a), if--

    ``(i) the termination of the qualifying relationship was connected to domestic violence; and

    ``(ii) the spouse or child has been battered or subjected to extreme cruelty by the spouse or parent who adjusts status to that of a permanent resident under this section.

    ``(2) APPLICATION OF OTHER LAW.--In acting on applications filed under this subsection with respect to aliens who have been battered or subjected to extreme cruelty, the Secretary of Homeland Security shall apply the provisions of section 204(a)(1)(J) and the protections, prohibitions, and penalties under section 384 of the Illegal Immigration Reform and Immigrant Responsibility Act of 1996 (8 U.S.C. 1367).

    ``(c) Judicial Review; Confidentiality; Penalties.--Subsections (n), (o), and (p) of section 250A shall apply to this section.''.

    (b) Clerical Amendment.--The table of contents for the Immigration and Nationality Act (8 U.S.C. 1101 et seq.) is amended by inserting after the item relating to section 245A the following:

   ``Sec..245B..Adjustment of status of former H- 5B nonimmigrant to that of person admitted for lawful permanent residence.''.

   


You appear to be a major trouble maker...and I'm getting really pissed. - GoldiLox, 7/27/2006

FormerLurker  posted on  2007-02-06   23:21:41 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#55. To: scrapper2 (#48)

Thank you for revealing yourself and your hidden agenda.

Hey pal, if you want to see my "agenda", take a look at what I just found. If you didn't jump to your mistaken conclusions, and start ragging on me, I might have been more polite. I don't deal well with those that give me a hard time.


You appear to be a major trouble maker...and I'm getting really pissed. - GoldiLox, 7/27/2006

FormerLurker  posted on  2007-02-06   23:23:45 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#56. To: FormerLurker, scrapper2, wake up (#54)

good lord, my head is spinning. i mean no offense, but it seems to me that this is minutiae at this point. one need only look at the large picture--the plan for the North American Union--this is what americans need to be made aware of. do you realize how few even know of its existence? how many politicians do you hear talking about it? any other than Ron Paul? the reason? it's because they all support it. look how many of them are CFR! and you all think writing to any of these traitors is going to do a thing? if they intended to do anything, the borders would have been secured and CLOSED years ago. no, the solution to this is not working within the 'political' system. they are the enemy of we the people. imo, our activism efforts should be educating as many people as we can. bring them here to get the information. post and send articles and google videos to your email list. make copies of DVDs as wake up does and pass them around everywhere you go and tell them about alternative media like RBN and GCN!

christine  posted on  2007-02-06   23:54:57 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#57. To: christine (#56)

Could you unban Ponchy for a day or two? We want to bend him to our will and make him do criminal acts.

Bunch of internet bums ... grand jury --- opium den ! ~ byeltsin

Minerva  posted on  2007-02-07   0:15:48 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#58. To: christine (#56)

maybe just unnatural acts, but that might be too easy. he seems to be inclined that way already.

"And this is the end of my brilliant career on the 4um..." -- ponchy 12/20/2006

Morgana le Fay  posted on  2007-02-07   0:18:48 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#59. To: christine (#56)

good lord, my head is spinning. i mean no offense, but it seems to me that this is minutiae at this point. one need only look at the large picture--the plan for the North American Union--this is what americans need to be made aware of. do you realize how few even know of its existence? how many politicians do you hear talking about it? any other than Ron Paul? the reason? it's because they all support it. look how many of them are CFR!

As it stands now, the Kennedy McCain Amnesty Bill, otherwise known as the Secure America and Orderly Immigration Act, has been inserted as an amendment into the Minimum Wage bill, and has been passed by the senate I believe.

A amnesty bill is just the first step of implementing the NAU, but a critical step to the plan. Without it, things will be a bit more difficult for the NWO to advance their agenda.

These slimeballs are getting away with this because the main stream press is NOT reporting on any of it. Once exposed to the light of day, the cockroaches will scurry, but with the general population in the dark about these things, there isn't much hope.


You appear to be a major trouble maker...and I'm getting really pissed. - GoldiLox, 7/27/2006

FormerLurker  posted on  2007-02-07   0:31:51 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#60. To: Morgana le Fay (#58)

The same people who cured Ted Haggard of lusting after assholes might be able to cure Ponchy of being an asshole.

Bunch of internet bums ... grand jury --- opium den ! ~ byeltsin

Minerva  posted on  2007-02-07   0:32:56 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#61. To: Coral Snake (#52)

TOTALLY AND FOREVER OUTTA HERE!!!

Take your crap and post it someplace else. I'm classifying you now as a disruptor.

You are BANNED!!!

Goldi-Lox posted on 2007-02-06 11:12:05 ET Reply Trace

Hey BeachLoser!

ROTFLMAO

at you!


Hey, Meester,wanna meet my seester?

Flintlock  posted on  2007-02-07   0:33:44 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#62. To: Minerva (#60)

ponchy isn't much interested in self help that he can't drink.

"And this is the end of my brilliant career on the 4um..." -- ponchy 12/20/2006

Morgana le Fay  posted on  2007-02-07   0:34:57 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#63. To: FormerLurker (#59)

These slimeballs are getting away with this because the main stream press is NOT reporting on any of it. Once exposed to the light of day, the cockroaches will scurry, but with the general population in the dark about these things, there isn't much hope.

exactly..we need to turn them onto alternative information sources as i said above.

christine  posted on  2007-02-07   0:38:03 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#64. To: christine, former lurker (#56) (Edited)

good lord, my head is spinning. i mean no offense, but it seems to me that this is minutiae at this point. one need only look at the large picture--the plan for the North American Union--this is what americans need to be made aware of. do you realize how few even know of its existence?

The minutiae of the immigration bill is supposed to make your head spin.

People should not give the minutiae details of the bill to their next door neighbors or work colleagues or relatives.

One would only need to say that there's a "pending bill" to forgive/give amnesty to 20 Million illegal aliens and the only recompense to the US taxpayer is that the illegal would pay a one time only $1000 fine and illegals under 21 are exempt from the fine.

Then one would encourage one's circle of friends/relative/colleagues to contact their Congressmen and Senators to deep-six this bill since it does not address anchor baby laws, unpaid income taxes, border fences to keep this from happening again, and employer fines for hiring immigrants who were illegal at the time to name a few items that require remedy.

Also the pending legislation increases the total of H-1B visas for engineers from India to displace American engineers.

Giving DVD's to people is a "stretch" remedy, IMO. You need to keep the message short and sweet to get the appropriate reaction and DVD's are not that way. People are busy these days. The only ones who would sit through a DVD presentation are in the choir already.

As for the North American Security Union, I agree with Former Lurker - that's far off and it's not in the bag by any means. We need to stick to the small here and now puzzle pieces that our nation faces today.

And defeating the guest worker amnesty bill would be a major step in thwarting the implementation of the NASU.

Fyi, Canada is a parliamentary system. The PM does not have the same powers as our President. Martin/Harper can't just sign on the dotted line. The PM would need to present this NASU to his Cabinet and after that, it would need to be voted on in Parliament and then passed on to the Senate. Where it gets tricky is the Parliamentary vote especially in the case of PM Harper. He is skating on thin ice with a minority government. His days are numbered. At this stage, Harper's gov't can be brought down with a "no confidence" vote. He does not want anything controversial coming up to a vote these days. Minority gov'ts last approx. 18 months. Harper was sworn into office in February, 2006. He's got another 6 month shelf life. Jorgas and Mexico's whatever would be nuts to think that Harper is going to chance his spot as PM with a vote on any NASU bill the next 6 months. No way. And it will be Canadians who will buck the idea of a contiguous border with the USA and Mexico - believe it or not it will be the USA part that will gall Canadians. There is no chance that Canadians want to share anything more than trade with the elephant.

***Former Lurker, thank you for finding a more understandable version of the amnesty bill.***

I expect that eventually the 20 Million illegals will gain some sort of legal staus but I don't think the cart should be put before the horse - what about employer fines? or anchor baby practice? or a proper fence like what we pay for Israel to have? or what about income tax back payments? and what about the Mexocans who are waiting in the legal immigration queue, shouldn't they get into America first over the illegals and what about the Mexican oligarch families, what payment are they making to our General Treasury to pay for our educating and medicating and welfareizing their countrymen??

There are quite a few outstanding issues that need to be resolved before/if illegals can get their slates wiped clean.

scrapper2  posted on  2007-02-07   2:40:26 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#65. To: FormerLurker (#7)

I see you are posting over there again. What's up with that? Personally you couldn't pay me to post on that site anymore even if I could, which I can't.

God is always good!
"It was an interesting day." - President Bush, recalling 9/11 [White House, 1/5/02]

RickyJ  posted on  2007-02-07   4:36:38 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#66. To: FormerLurker (#18)

Poor BAC, he finally did himself in.

On any forum with any signifcant traffic you will find many BACs. BAC is not unique at all. I doubt BAC is poor.

God is always good!
"It was an interesting day." - President Bush, recalling 9/11 [White House, 1/5/02]

RickyJ  posted on  2007-02-07   4:45:21 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  



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