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Title: Kentucky Teacher Placed In Psych Ward For Declaring 9/11 Was An 'Inside Job'
Source: Arctic Beacon
URL Source: http://www.arcticbeacon.com./6-Feb-2007.html
Published: Feb 6, 2007
Author: Greg Szymanski
Post Date: 2007-02-07 06:19:15 by Eoghan
Keywords: None
Views: 351
Comments: 30

Michael Cook was also visited by Secret Service and then became subject of Federal charges for speaking out against Bush before a 2006 speech at Northern Kentucky University. Agents also confiscated his weapons, safely kept at his home, even though legally registered.

Michael Cook has been persecuted and placed in a psychiatric ward simply for saying 9/11 was an inside job and possessing firearms registered legally in Kentucky.

His story is just another in a long line cases where law abiding citizens have been systematically deprived of their due process rights and trampled on by a fascist mindset controlling America.

In a nutshell, Cook's case exemplifies how freedom of speech and the right to possess firearms are being taken away from Americans. His story further shows how a right to a fair is being replaced with psychiatric incarceration based on flimsy and often-times concocted doctor evaluations.

Cook appeared Monday on Greg Szymanski's radio show, The Investigative Journal, on the Republic Broadcasting Network at http://www.republicbroadcasting.org, telling how simply speaking his mind and exercising his rights under the 1st and 2nd Amendments of the Constitution are now leading to his second stint in a psychiatric ward.

"Right after this interview at 2pm eastern time, I have to surrender to the U.S. Marshall and then taken to a psychiatric facility. Who knows how long it will take, but the last time I was illegally held for 45 days," said Cook who lost his job as a special educator for the Covington Ky., Independent School District after talking 9/11 truth to a school district aide.

Cook's legal troubles began after he shared information to an aide about 9/11 being an inside job as well as telling the aide he legally possessed firearms, including a 45 caliber pistol locked safely away in glove box of his car.

"I have a concealed weapons permit and everything is registered in the state of Kentucky, but that doesn't seem to matter to authorities," added Cook, who has been relegated to working as a carpenter until his incarceration in a psych ward Monday.

Here is rundown of Cook's story in bullet form:

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#1. To: Eoghan (#0)

If there was any doubt that our government did 9/11, how the heck can there be now?

UNFREAKINBELIEVABLE!!

God is always good!
"It was an interesting day." - President Bush, recalling 9/11 [White House, 1/5/02]

RickyJ  posted on  2007-02-07   6:31:25 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#2. To: Eoghan (#0)

as well as telling the aide he legally possessed firearms, including a 45 caliber pistol locked safely away in glove box of his car.

Does he drive the car to school? What's the law on firearms on school property?

Why would he have the need to "tell" anyone?

Doesn't pass the smell test.

"First they ignore you. Then they ridicule you. Then they fight you. Then you win." --Mahatma K. Gandhi

angle  posted on  2007-02-07   8:24:07 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#3. To: Eoghan, *9-11* (#0)

The following is a more in depth statement about the particulars of his case written by Cook and given to the Arctic Beacon for distribution. Cook also lists his address at the Federal Medical Facility if anyone is interested in following his case and starting a movement to FREE MIKE COOK.

This is a brief history of my legal problems. There are potentially

lucrative lawsuits in the information presented here, and much more in

information not presented here, for attorneys willing to take them on. I

have no criminal record and a very respectable background.

In April of 2005, I shared information on the attacks of 9/11/01 with my

teaching assistant. I was working as a special educator for the Covington, Ky. Independent School District at a state funded residential treatment

center for abused and neglected boys. (I had previous experience with that

population in "wilderness therapy programs or hoods in the woods" and I

was working on a Master's Degree in Special Education at Northern Kentucky

University - NKU.) I had a Kentucky permit to carry a concealed weapon and

was doing so. The reasons for this precaution were very valid and extend

beyond my involvement in the 9/11 Truth Movement. I had been giving my aide,

and sometimes her daughter, a ride home after school and I knew that to

discontinue this would be a considerable inconvenience for her. I was very

willing to continue giving her a ride, but I felt apprehensive that she was

not aware of the circumstance she was in while riding with me so I tried to

inform her somewhat and showed her my pistol to emphasize that I was serious

about this, that this was reality. She 'freaked out' and took this

information to my boss, who took it to the police.

The Covington police came to the classroom the next day before the

students arrived and took me to the psychiatric ward at St. Elizabeth

Hospital. I was compliant and was not arrested or read the Miranda and I was

not charged with any crime. A Kimber pistol that was locked in my car, with

a cable lock on it, was confiscated and never returned. I had the

ammunition locked in my office. This is a standard, officially recommended

and safe procedure, to keep the firearm and the ammunition separate and

locked. At the hospital, Dr. Petit saw me for 30 seconds or less and

diagnosed me as Paranoid Schizophrenic. About all I got to say was, 9/11

was an inside job. This is a true statement and I encourage you to examine

the work of Dr. Steven Jones of BYU and Dr. David Ray Griffin for

confirmation of that fact.

The Petition that went to Campbell County District Court to have me

involuntarily committed was filed by Ms. Linda Lambers. She was a mental

retardation professional and was qualified to assert that I was mentally

retarded, not mentally ill, but that is what she asserted in the legal

document. The petition went through the office of Judge Gregory Popovich. I

think that it is telling that Dr. Petit was not willing to put his name on

the petition, which is how it should have been done.

I spent about 3 weeks in the psych ward. I did whatever was asked of me,

including taking medication, because I figured that it would help me be

released sooner. I spoke freely with mental health professionals whenever I

was asked to. I was released on the grounds that I was not a danger to

myself or others.

I was fired from my teaching job and spent the summer working as a

carpenter. I am a journeyman in the union. I applied for other teaching

positions and was accepted at a 'day treatment' program for the Campbell

County, Ky. School District. Such programs are for adjudicated youth. During

the first day of employment in August of 2005, the agency responsible for

the certification of teachers, the Kentucky Educational Professional

Standards Board (EPSB) suspended my teaching certificate due to the

hospitalization and the Campbell County School District could no longer

employ me. I returned to carpentry.

The EPSB began the legal proceeding to revoke my teaching certificate early

in 2006. This is an administrative hearing conducted by the Ky. Attorney

General's office. During a telephone conference with the hearing officer,

Mr. Thomas Hellmann, and the attorney for the EPSB, Ms. Cynthia Grohmann, I

was given verbal permission to present evidence and call witnesses to

substantiate my claim that the attacks of 9/11/01 were an " inside job." It

seemed logical to me that if I could substantiate my claim, prove that my

assertion was valid, then that would argue against my having a mental

disability and this met no resistance. I contacted Dr. Jim Fetzer, one of

the founders of Scholars for 9/11 Truth, and he contacted other

professionals in the 9/11 truth movement. In short order, I had Dr. Fetzer,

BYU physicist Dr. Steven Jones, commercial pilot and aeronautical engineer

Nila Sagadevan, former Deputy Attorney General of Pennsylvania Philip Berg,

Esq. Colonel George Nelson, USAF (ret.), and Chemist Kevin Ryan ready to

testify.

I submitted this witness list and another pre-hearing telephone conference

was quickly scheduled by Ms. Grohmann. I was then told that evidence

pertaining to 9/11 was not relevant to my case. According to Mr. Hellmann,

"Cook misconstrues the allegations against him and the nature of the proof

that will establish that the charges have no merit. Cook seems to assume

that if the hearing officer finds that there was a government conspiracy

regarding 9/11, he could not find that Cook has a mental incapacity. One

finding has no relationship to the other, however, since one could believe

there was no government involvement in 9/11 and still have a mental

incapacity, just as a person could believe that there was government

involvement in 9/11 and have no mental incapacity. Thus, proof of the

government's involvement in or a conspiracy regarding 9/11 has no direct

relationship to the charges against Cook." In other words, the validity of

what you are saying has no bearing on your rationality. The irony runs deep

here, for I am being accused of being irrational and an irrational argument

is being used to prevent me from submitting evidence that would rationally

support my mental health. While it is true that I could be crazy and correct

about 9/11 at the same time, since I was called crazy for what I was saying

about 9/11, proving the validity of my claims would seem to be a step in the

direction of establishing my rationality, coherence, correct thinking,

sanity, etc.

So, for this case, I thanked the good people who were willing to testify

and told them that, unfortunately, I could not present 9/11 evidence and

focused instead on establishing that I had been doing an excellent job of

teaching.

Another case was begun when St. Elizabeth Hospital began a civil suit in an

effort to get me to pay for my involuntary hospitalization. They only asked

for $760 when the total bill was $8,500. The only reason I can think of for

why they would ask for such a small amount is to keep the case in District

Court. To ask for the full amount would put the matter before the Circuit

Court. My written response to the suit included the true statements "I did

not request or require the services rendered to me. I was not a danger to

myself or anyone else. I was not charged with any crime." At that time, I

still did not know for certain who had filed the petition to have me

hospitalized. I maintained that I should not be required to pay for services

I did not request or require.

The case came before, surprise, Judge Popovich in April 06. At

that time, the petition and other legal papers that put me in the psych ward

could not be found, so it was rescheduled. I promptly found the documents

and eagerly went to the following court date. I had been to the law library

at NKU and researched the statutes pursuant to my case and felt that I had a

pretty reasonable shot at winning this in a trial. I had not obtained legal

counsel because I could not afford it, and I wanted to see if I would get a

trial. No surprise, Judge Popovich entered a summary judgment, with no

motion filed for it by the plaintiff, to the best of my knowledge, or time

for me to answer to such a motion, and I was denied a trial and ordered to

pay. I sought a lawyer and got some minimal help at a maximum price. I filed

a motion identifying the shady legal maneuvers and asking for leave to file

a counter claim. It was subsequently denied and I appealed to the circuit

court and that was denied, with no mention made of the shady legal

maneuvers, naturally.

The current FEDERAL CASE against me began on 5/18/06. President George W.

Bush was coming to town to raise funds and speak at NKU. I hand delivered a

package of 9/11 Truth materials to the President of NKU a week beforehand

with a polite letter requesting an opportunity to speak with the NKU

president and the Board of Regents about this vital matter. I was in favor

of showing a 9/11 Truth movie to the audience before President Bush arrived

or, preferably, while he was there, but I realized his strict schedule might

make that unfeasible. I was calling and emailing the NKU president's office

steadily in the days leading up to President Bush's visit, thinking that he

might require a little encouragement. I made a mistake, a poor choice of

words, in an email on 5/18. What I should have said was something like,

"Eventually, President Bush will be charged with Treason, be found guilty by

a jury of his peers, and be shot by a firing squad." What I did say was,

"Eventually, he will be shot for treason." So, the Secret Service came to

see me. We chatted politely and I was cooperative. They were surprised that

I was surprised to see them. It really was an honest mistake and I explained

fully. To be on the safe side, they confiscated my firearms, 1 .22 pistol

and 2 .22 rifles, 3 shot guns, one 9mm pistol- no assault weapons or

anything - and gave them to my local police. The agents were polite and

reasonable and would not take any 9/11 Truth materials but one of them did

write down the titles of Dr. David Ray Griffin's books.

W showed up on 5/19 and I participated in the protest at NKU without any

problems, though I did have 2 police cars follow me out as I drove away. I

waited until 5/24 to go to my local police who promptly gave me my firearms

back and very reluctantly accepted some 9/11 Truth materials. All I had to

do was sign release forms for the firearms. (My concealed carry permit had

of course been revoked after I was taken to the psych ward. I plan to try to

get it back but have been too busy with other legal matters to pursue it. I

did take the initial steps in that direction and have been informed that I

have 9 years ((8.5 now)) to make an attempt. I am grateful for that generous

time span in particular and Kentucky's intelligent firearm legislation in

general. I had replaced the vacancy of my pistol in my fanny pack with DVDs

and flyers containing 9/11 Truth, which are actually MUCH more dangerous, so

I still felt safe.)

I was promptly contacted again by the Secret Service. The agent said that

he wanted to help me get my guns back. I told him that I already had them

back. He then told me that he didn't think I was supposed to have them

because I had been to the psych ward. I did not ask the obvious questions of

why he was about to help me get them back if I wasn't supposed to have them,

or how the Secret Service is not aware of a mundane matter such as this if

it wants to be informed, but merely said, and continued to say for some time

whenever contact was made, that if I was shown a legal document saying that

I could not have firearms that I would immediately surrender them, or

preferably give them to my brother. Some of the firearms belonged to him and

my nephews and I was merely looking after them. No such documentation was

ever produced. On 6/20/06, the Secret Service served a search warrant issued

by virtue of a sealed affidavit filed by the agent I had been dealing with

and confiscated my firearms again. This time they held on to them. I

promptly issued a 'yelp' to my community of 9/11 Truth Activists via the

web. This situation was responded to in a very humorous fashion by Dr. Kevin

Barrett that can be found here: http://mujca.com/secretservice.htm

So, I continued to work and play and wonder what might happen. I was

presented a summons on 8/16/06 by an excellent U.S. Marshal and was

arraigned on 8/17/06 and received a court appointed lawyer. The case is: The

United States of America v. Michael Cook; United States District Court,

Eastern District of Kentucky; Criminal Case No. 06-66-WOB. (I am not

superstitious, but I think it is worth noting the case number, 666.) I stand

accused of a felony weapons violation which carries a maximum of 10 years

and $250,000. Again, I have no criminal record at all and a reasonably

fine, upstanding background. I was less than enthusiastic about this

lawyer's performance and fired him, following the advice of a 9/11 Truth

aware lawyer I was connected with thanks to Dr. Jim Fetzer, just prior to a

pretrial hearing on 10/6/06. This lawyer very promptly contacted me and I

allowed him to remain in my service. (I will spare you the details. What he

had to say sounded reasonable and was substantiated by subsequent

examination on my part. I also understand, and have considerable empathy

for, anyone who has difficulty coming to grips with the reality of 9/11,

which remains relevant to this case regardless of any irrational arguments

to the contrary that may be made.)

At the pretrial hearing on 10/6/06, my lawyer filed a motion for me to be

evaluated for mental competency to stand trial. It is my understanding that

any reasonable lawyer would want to take this step, and could actually be

considered negligent if they did not, give the circumstances. The order was

filed on 10/11/06 and I was notified by the U.S. Marshals on 10/26/06 that I

am to surrender myself to the Federal Medical Center, 3301 Leestown Rd. Lexington, Ky. 40511-8702 (859-255-6812) today, 11/1/06. I do, of course,

intend to comply.

If all goes well, I hope to have a trial soon. I hope to present evidence

of official complicity in the attacks of 9/11/01 at this trial.

I spent 45 days at FMC and was evaluated for about 12 hours during that

time. The evaluation report was due on 1/15/07 and it said that I am not

competent to stand trial. Ricky Ray Rector, who wanted to save his dessert

for after the execution, was competent to stand trial, but I am not.

On 1/19/07 I learned that the prosecutor has filed a motion for me to be

restored to competency. A hearing date has not yet been set.

On 1/30 I learned that there will be no hearing. The judge has issued the

order granting the prosecution's request and I will self surrender, again,

to the U.S. Marshals for transportation to the Federal Medical Center (FMC-

Free Mike Cook ?) by 2:00 on Monday 2/5/07. (Last time, I paid my cab fare

and bus fare. This time, the feds can pay for it.) The law

http://caselaw.lp.findlaw.com/scripts/ts_search.pl?title=18&sec=4241

Allows for 4 months, with periodic hearings. I just learned yesterday that

extensions can be filed for and would most likely be granted but I don' t yet

know how long those extensions could extend my stay. After 4 months, if I

have still not been "restored to competency ", the sensible thing to do would

be to dismiss the case. The absurd thing to do, in this absurd world we

inhabit, would be to go to the next law

http://caselaw.lp.findlaw.com/scripts/ts_search.pl?title=18&sec=4246

and try to have me committed for life. Yes, you heard right, life in

'prison' (call it a hospital if you want, you're still locked up) without a

trial. IF I get to that point, and I certainly hope that I don't, I will

just have to hope and pray that the cavalry comes.

Best case scenario, I am found competent in short order and get a fair trial

where I can present relevant evidence, i.e. the WHY and HOW I was placed in

the psych ward at the very least, evidence that 9/11 was an inside job at

the very best.

Second best scenario, they keep me and F with me as long and as much as they

can and the case is dismissed.

Third scenario, I'll need a rescue. What did Alanis Morriset say? 'The fire

trucks are coming up around the bend.'

Inshalla, Good Lord willing and the creek don't rise, I won't get to that

point.

Mailing address at the Federal Medical Center- (FMC- Free Mike Cook!)

Michel Cook

11288-032

FMC

P.O. Box 14500

Lexington, Ky. 40512-4500

The case can be followed on this site http://pacer.psc.uscourts.gov/

You have to register and there's an eight cent charge per page. The case is

the USA v.s. Michael Cook 06-66 Eastern District of Kentucky, Northern

Division at Covington.

honway  posted on  2007-02-07   9:37:51 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#4. To: honway, *9-11*, *You Gotta Be Shitting Me* (#3) (Edited)

Wow! The thought Stasi are getting very busy.

All wars are fought for money.
~Socrates

robin  posted on  2007-02-07   10:23:28 ET  (4 images) Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#5. To: Zipporah (#0)

Northern Kentucky/Covington cutie ping ;)

Peetie Wheatstraw  posted on  2007-02-07   10:36:00 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#6. To: RickyJ (#1)

If there was any doubt that our government did 9/11, how the heck can there be now?

no kidding

christine  posted on  2007-02-07   10:45:52 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#7. To: Peetie Wheatstraw (#5)

Thank you *

Zipporah  posted on  2007-02-07   11:07:31 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#8. To: Eoghan (#0)

Scary shit!


SKYDRIFTER  posted on  2007-02-07   11:26:00 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#9. To: christine (#6)

This is beyond ridiculous. He made a dumb statement, and it was investigated. It was shown that he was no threat, and that should be the end of it. There is no just cause for continued harrassment, and he shold be LEFT ALONE. If he wants to hand out DVD's, so what? Who's being harmed?

Remember...G-d saved more animals than people on the ark. www.siameserescue.org

who knows what evil  posted on  2007-02-07   13:00:42 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#10. To: robin (#4)

Did the Stasi lock dissidents up in mental hospitals? I know the KGB did.

Katrina was America's Chernobyl.

aristeides  posted on  2007-02-07   13:06:15 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#11. To: aristeides (#10)

Our State-side Stasi have pulled this con before...

James Forrestal

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/James_Forrestal

Forrestal resigned on March 28, 1949, due to a "mental breakdown" and checked into the Bethesda Naval Hospital five days later. The condition was officially announced as "nervous and physical exhaustion"; his lead doctor, Captain George Raines, diagnosing his condition as "depression" or "reactive depression."

A chief reason for Forrestal's fragile mental state was that his high-profile position was in sharp contrast to his personality[citation needed]. As a person who prized anonymity and once stated that his hobby was "obscurity", he and his policies had been the constant target of attacks from columnists, including Drew Pearson and Walter Winchell.

“Yes, but is this good for Jews?"

Eoghan  posted on  2007-02-07   13:16:38 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#12. To: aristeides, Eoghan (#10)

To be honest, I don't know for sure, I just assumed. I chose Stasi over KGB because the US feels more like it is becoming a satellite (not exactly Russian), like East Germany was.

You might find this reference interesting:
more on the "strategy of isolation", a stasi tactic possibly used in ireland.
One irish person who has to cope with this kind of thing all the time apparently is Kathy O'Beirne who is trying to highlight the case of the former Magdalen victims being incarcerated in Irish mental institutions. She "has received constant threats after she decided to go public with her allegations." The threats are to "not rock the boat" and "not to talk to anybody about what happened to Elizabeth". This last is a reference to the recent death of Elizabeth Keegan.

A website dedicated to Stasi links with this funny joke at one:
http://www.futuris.net/stasi/links.htm
Excerpt from The Sunday Press, Dublin, 25-Aug-1991

Apropos recent events, in case you're wondering what will become of all the unemployed KGB men in the event of a change of regime in the USSR, I was talking to a German friend recently and asked him what had become of all the former Stasi secret policement of East Germany.

"Oh they're all taxi drivers now," he said, "it was the obvious solution."

"Why is that?" I asked.

"Simple," he said, "you just give them your name--and they know where you live."

Kurt Nimmo:
Opposing Bush - A Form of Mental Illness?

All wars are fought for money.
~Socrates

robin  posted on  2007-02-07   13:19:41 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#13. To: robin (#12)

Why do you think this gentlemen is in a psych ward, Robin?

Remember...G-d saved more animals than people on the ark. www.siameserescue.org

who knows what evil  posted on  2007-02-07   13:25:24 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#14. To: Eoghan (#0)

who are these americans who carry out these policies and put this fellow Mike Cook into the psych ward and seek to intimidate him? These are fascist- Americans. proves that germany was not really so exceptional.

Galatians 3:29 And if ye [be] Christ's, then are ye Abraham's seed, and heirs according to the promise.

Red Jones  posted on  2007-02-07   13:30:16 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#15. To: who knows what evil (#13)

If honway's post #3 and the article at the top are any indication, he's a test case for the Cabal.

All wars are fought for money.
~Socrates

robin  posted on  2007-02-07   13:31:09 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#16. To: Eoghan (#0)

Michael Cook has been persecuted and placed in a psychiatric ward simply for saying 9/11 was an inside job....

Cook has the dubious honor of sharing historical company with poet/gadfly Ezra Pound:

"He was found unfit to face trial because of insanity and sent to St. Elizabeths Hospital in Washington, D.C., where he remained for 12 years from 1946 to 1958. His insanity plea is still a matter of some controversy, since in retrospect his activities and his writings during the war years do not appear to be those of a clinically insane person. The insanity plea was part of a plea bargain designed to save his life, since treason is potentially a capital offense. (Aw, those soft hearted teddy bear Feds-HD) As it turned out, there were a number of other American Axis collaborators who stood trial after the war without being sentenced to death. Pound's controversial insanity plea is mirrored by the fate of Norwegian author and collaborator Knut Hamsun, who was similarly dubbed insane by embarrassed authorities despite evidence (in the form of subsequent published material) to the contrary."_wiki

HOUNDDAWG  posted on  2007-02-07   13:53:08 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#17. To: HOUNDDAWG (#16)

Interesting...and a familiar pattern...Pound, an ardent anti-Zionist - and horrors, "an anti-Semite." Wiki's entry for Forestall alledges Zionist agents pulled a con job to get him committed (and presumably tossed out a window).

“Yes, but is this good for Jews?"

Eoghan  posted on  2007-02-07   14:00:33 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#18. To: Eoghan (#17)

Yup.

One of the 22 material witnesses to the JFK assassination who died under mysterious circs committed suicide by shooting himself in the back 5 times with a high powered rifle.

In a country where this is even possible it's just not wise to be identified as a noteworthy threat to the system.

HOUNDDAWG  posted on  2007-02-07   14:06:57 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#19. To: HOUNDDAWG (#16)

Thanks for this sorry history.

All wars are fought for money.
~Socrates

robin  posted on  2007-02-07   14:07:55 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#20. To: robin (#19)

Thanks for this sorry history.

As you see Zionists had consolidated their near-absolute power since WWII.

And as we speak Jimmy Carter is working on his first...and probably fatal heart attack. Despite his courage and intellect he probably still doesn't fully appreciate the danger he's in.

It wouldn't surprise me if he still orders room service chow in hotels on his book and speaking tour.

I'd certainly know better....

HOUNDDAWG  posted on  2007-02-07   14:13:04 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#21. To: HOUNDDAWG (#16)

In Pound's case, he was declared insane because it would have been too much of a hot potato to sentence him to death.

Katrina was America's Chernobyl.

aristeides  posted on  2007-02-07   14:16:48 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#22. To: aristeides (#21)

In Pound's case, he was declared insane because it would have been too much of a hot potato to sentence him to death.

Right, especially since neither "Axis Sally" (Mildred Gillars) nor any of the dozen voices of Tokyo Rose (emphasis on Iva Toguri D'Aquino) were sentenced to death.

I'm spitballing here but, I don't believe that Zionists or commies (but, I repeat myself) wanted to encourage the use of the death penalty for the nation's enemies because of their yet-to-be-detected-little helpers like Julius and Ethyl.

HOUNDDAWG  posted on  2007-02-07   14:24:14 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#23. To: Eoghan (#0)

http://www.libertypost.org/cgi-bin/readart.cgi?ArtNum=17502

So, who is this Dr. Charles Sell? He's a dentist who formerly practiced in the St. Louis area and is currently a non-violent federal prisoner in Springfield, Mo. He's already spent more than five years in prison than he would be liable for, even if he were convicted of the government's Medicaid Fraud accusations.

We're writing about him and his case because his treatment by the federal government has been – and continues to be – unconscionable.

Let's focus on the federal government's claim that Dr. Sell is "incompetent" to stand trial.

The government wants to make him competent by forcefully giving him powerful medicine. Dr. Sell doesn't want to be medicated; he's had bad reactions to similar drugs in the past. Further, one of the medicines that the government might want to use on him is an experimental medicine that could kill him.

The U.S. Supreme Court heard his appeal on this question on March 3.

Dr. Sell has been in prison for more than 64 months, including 20 months in solitary confinement. As Justice Bye on the U.S. Court of Appeals for the 8th Circuit noted, if Dr. Sell were convicted of the pertinent Medicaid Fraud charges against him, the longest sentence he would be given under the United States Sentencing Guidelines would be 41 months.

In other words, Dr. Sell has already been in prison 23 months longer than he could be sentenced for, if convicted on all the fraud charges.

Due to legal expenses, he's already lost his practice, his office, his home and his savings. What more does the government want? His mind?

The level of "competence" usually required for defendants to stand trial in federal court is very low. In the eyes of federal courts, a defendant is competent to stand trial if he doesn't talk to invisible people. Dr. Sell earned a perfect score on a 30-question true/false quiz used in a prison Competency Restoration Group.

The 8th Circuit Court of Appeals ruled that "involuntary medication is the only way for the government to achieve its interest in fairly trying Sell." However, an amicus brief filed by the Association of American Physicians & Surgeons, Inc., and Eagle Forum Education & Legal Defense Fund notes the "Government's interest in drugging Dr. Sell for trial can be no greater than its interest in punishing him further, which is non-existent."

After more than five years in prison, the federal government has not yet set a trial date. Other than to mention that we're not going to address Dr. Sell's right to a "speedy trial" as required by the Sixth Amendment to our Constitution. Nor will we look in detail at several other issues, such as an episode in prison when he spat in the face of a magistrate after Dr. Sell was denied his right to have his attorney present.

Another issue is an accusation that Dr. Sell was suffering from delusions because he thought there was a government effort to cover up his personal knowledge of the government's culpability in the 1993 deaths at the Branch Davidian land near Waco, Texas.

As an Army Reservist called up to serve as an expert in forensic dentistry, Dr. Sell was on the scene the day of the tragic fire. Other issues include accusations of Dr. Sell using politically incorrect swear words.

We find forcing medication with life-threatening drugs on a presumed-innocent prisoner another form of cruel and unusual punishment.

honway  posted on  2007-02-07   14:27:56 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#24. To: Eoghan (#0)

Feds jail "delusional" blogger.

Katrina was America's Chernobyl.

aristeides  posted on  2007-02-07   14:41:21 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#25. To: honway, Eoghan, aristeides (#23)

In other words, Dr. Sell has already been in prison 23 months longer than he could be sentenced for, if convicted on all the fraud charges.

Due to legal expenses, he's already lost his practice, his office, his home and his savings. What more does the government want? His mind?

Another issue is an accusation that Dr. Sell was suffering from delusions because he thought there was a government effort to cover up his personal knowledge of the government's culpability in the 1993 deaths at the Branch Davidian land near Waco, Texas.

As an Army Reservist called up to serve as an expert in forensic dentistry, Dr. Sell was on the scene the day of the tragic fire. Other issues include accusations of Dr. Sell using politically incorrect swear words.

We find forcing medication with life-threatening drugs on a presumed-innocent prisoner another form of cruel and unusual punishment.

Yet another case.

All wars are fought for money.
~Socrates

robin  posted on  2007-02-07   14:42:30 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#26. To: honway (#23)

They won't release him without a conviction because he could sue and win. "If he was too sick to go to trial then why did the govt hold him longer than the maximum sentencing guidelines?"

Res ipsa loquitur

The govt wants his credibility above all other things.

As Jon Voight said in ENEMY OF THE STATE "credibility is the only currency...."

HOUNDDAWG  posted on  2007-02-07   16:36:33 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#27. To: HOUNDDAWG, *9-11* (#26)

Allows for 4 months, with periodic hearings. I just learned yesterday that

extensions can be filed for and would most likely be granted but I don' t yet

know how long those extensions could extend my stay. After 4 months, if I

have still not been "restored to competency ", the sensible thing to do would

be to dismiss the case. The absurd thing to do, in this absurd world we

inhabit, would be to go to the next law

It would be nice if a hearing was scheduled far enough in advance to mobilize 1,000+ people with a clue and a T-Shirt that reads "9/11 was an Inside Job" to attend the hearing and gather outside the hearing. I would take vacation to attend that event.

honway  posted on  2007-02-07   19:01:03 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#28. To: honway (#27)

It would be nice if a hearing was scheduled far enough in advance to mobilize 1,000+ people with a clue and a T-Shirt that reads "9/11 was an Inside Job" to attend the hearing and gather outside the hearing. I would take vacation to attend that event.

what a great idea!

christine  posted on  2007-02-07   19:02:13 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#29. To: christine (#28)

Yes, you heard right, life in

'prison' (call it a hospital if you want, you're still locked up) without a

trial. IF I get to that point, and I certainly hope that I don't, I will

just have to hope and pray that the cavalry comes.

These events are worthy of monitoring. A cavalry of people with "9/11 was an Inside Job" T-Shirts attending a hearing might make a difference.

If the law permits them to lock this guy up for life for believing 9/11 was an inside job, that means they can lock me up for life.

honway  posted on  2007-02-07   19:13:17 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#30. To: honway (#29)

If the law permits them to lock this guy up for life for believing 9/11 was an inside job, that means they can lock me up for life.

Precisely why this bullsh*t needs to be nipped in the bud RIGHT NOW.

Remember...G-d saved more animals than people on the ark. www.siameserescue.org

who knows what evil  posted on  2007-02-07   19:46:48 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


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