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Title: Senator Webb interviewed by Chris Matthews today - Webb rocks!
Source: scrapper
URL Source: http://none
Published: Feb 7, 2007
Author: scrapper
Post Date: 2007-02-07 17:44:07 by scrapper2
Keywords: Senator Webb, Chris Matthews, pre-emptive/preventative war d
Views: 364
Comments: 5

If any of you get a chance, do try to watch Hardball today. Chris Matthews has a brief interview with Senator Webb and even though it was quick, it was quite informative because neither Matthews nor Webb engaged in much PC talking or dancing around the issues:

a. GWB baiting the Iranians for war - Webb said some of GWB's recent posturing was very worrisome and he inteneded to do something about it. For example Webb wanted to have Congress give GWB clear directions on what he could and could not do - in particular the fact that GWB moved navy ships to the Strait of Hormuz was wrong in Webb's opinion. In fact when he was Secty of the Navy, the US made a point of not having US ships enter the Strait of Hormuz because there is so little room there and that accidents could easily happen of ships bumping into each other and this could be mis-construed as act of war. So the US navy in the past decided to keep itself out of that accidental war trigger situation.

b. what powers the October 2002 Iraq war resolution assigned GWB - Matthews thought that Gephardt had included narrow targets for GWB but Webb disabused Matthews of this notion - the October 2002 resolution gave GWB broad powers for pre-emptive/preventative war and Webb wanted Congress to change that scope of authority for military action.

c. Senator Webb said that he did not believe in either the concept of pre-emptive war or in preventative war. Webb's response appreared to surprise Matthews. I liked it! This was in response to Chris Matthews giving Webb examples of various situations where pre-emptive/preventative wars might have been necessary at the time.

Chris Matthews cited the examples of the 1967 war wherein Israel saw that the Arab states were preparing for battle so Israel jumped in first as well as WW II where FDR had positioned navy ships in the North Atlantic baiting Germany to attack one of them to give a reason for war.

Good back and forth discussion all way round. If you catch the segment, tell me what you think of it. I like Webb so I might be giving him too much credit for his "honesty."

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#1. To: scrapper2 (#0)

Speaking as a Virginian, I don't trust Webb. His positions on Israel and the "War on Terror" are pure NWOian.

bluegrass  posted on  2007-02-07   18:20:55 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#2. To: scrapper2 (#0)

Chris was impatient with Webb not doing enough, with Chris suggesting to Webb that the Senators who oppose the war just say to hell with protocol in the Senate, and convene in the parking lot and voice their opposition.


I've already said too much.

MUDDOG  posted on  2007-02-07   18:41:25 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#3. To: MUDDOG (#2)

Chris was impatient with Webb not doing enough, with Chris suggesting to Webb that the Senators who oppose the war just say to hell with protocol in the Senate, and convene in the parking lot and voice their opposition.

Yes, thank you for reminding me of that part. Webb kind of blushed and said he thought something "more formal" needed to be done in Congress rather than in its parking lot. Matthews even sarcastically asked Webb how many years it would take for Congress to pass an anti-surge resolution. he, he

Matthews is definitely out front of any MSM talking heads re: the anti-Iraq occupation and also re: the anti-Iran invasion.

I skipped some of the cable channels today and was negatively surprised to hear Lou Dobbs of CNN dutifully beating the pro-Iran War drums. Dobbs maybe good on reporting the illegal alien problem but he sucks big time on telling the truth about useless ME wars.

Tucker Carlson is so neoconish hawkish I wanted to throw my shoe at the screen today when he opened his yap. He was yammering on ad nauseum about how come/why we're expected to take in Iraq refugees? They're potential terrorists after all and why do we owe refugee Iraqis anything...what a belligerant uninformed arse old Tucker is.

scrapper2  posted on  2007-02-07   19:08:30 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#4. To: scrapper2 (#3)

I like the Chris Matthews show. My favorite show is Keith Olbermann.


I've already said too much.

MUDDOG  posted on  2007-02-07   19:25:30 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#5. To: scrapper2 (#3)

I skipped some of the cable channels today and was negatively surprised to hear Lou Dobbs of CNN dutifully beating the pro-Iran War drums. Dobbs maybe good on reporting the illegal alien problem but he sucks big time on telling the truth about useless ME wars.

controlled opposition

christine  posted on  2007-02-07   19:29:34 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


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