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Title: 1987 "Secret Government" documentary still valid
Source: Boing Boing
URL Source: http://boingboing.net/
Published: Feb 9, 2007
Author: Bill Moyers PBS
Post Date: 2007-02-09 20:07:04 by Zipporah
Keywords: None
Views: 256
Comments: 18

1987 "Secret Government" documentary still valid

A Boing Boing reader says:
Picture 2-31 The Secret Government lives! A [90-minute] 1987 Bill Moyers report on the thinking, methods and powerful figures behind extralegal military operations and secret support in Iran, Nicaragua, Guatemala, Laos/Cambodia, Chile, and even domestic surveillance and infiltration within the US, since the beginning of the cold war, resulting in a secret national security regime recently posted Google Video provides some key background and insight to the extremely similar situation going on around Iraq and the "War on Terror" right now. Includes some familiar characters to us today.

(You can skip past that painful Jackson Browne music video at the beginning there...)

"We've turned the war powers of the United States over to... well we're never really sure who, or what they're doing, or what it costs, or who is paying for it. The one thing we are sure of is that this largely secret global war, carried on with less and less accountability to democratic institutions, has become a way of life. And now we are faced with a question brand new in our history: Can we have the permanent warfare state, and democracy too?"

"How does it happen that to be anticommunist we become antidemocratic? As if we have to subvert our society to save it? ... The powers claimed by presidents for national security have become the controlling wheel of government..."

"...In the bunker of the White House, the men who serve the president put loyalty above analysis, and judgement yields to obedience..."

Seem like a familiar problem?

Link


Poster Comment:

This has a Google video link but it was pulled and I found it on You Tube (1 image)

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#1. To: Zipporah (#0)

The powers claimed by presidents for national security have become the controlling wheel of government..."

that's for sure. how convenient for them is the war on terror--perpetual and neverending war on a nebulous enemy.

christine  posted on  2007-02-09   20:16:36 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#2. To: christine (#1)

Watching this now.. amazing..

Zipporah  posted on  2007-02-09   20:25:24 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#3. To: Zipporah, christine, wakeup (#2)

There are lots of great videos at these sites:

http://www.supportthetruth.com/

http://www.question911.com/linksall.htm

http://www.whatdoesitmean.com/video.htm

"You can not save the Constitution by destroying it."

Itisa1mosttoolate  posted on  2007-02-09   20:34:31 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#4. To: Zipporah (#0)

we're never really sure who, or what they're doing, or what it costs, or who is paying for it

I can make a guess on the last one............

kiki  posted on  2007-02-09   20:38:35 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#5. To: Itisa1mosttoolate (#3)

wow, great sites.

christine  posted on  2007-02-09   20:39:43 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#6. To: Itisa1mosttoolate (#3)

Hey thanks!!

Zipporah  posted on  2007-02-09   20:39:58 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#7. To: kiki (#4)

I can make a guess on the last one............

Zipporah  posted on  2007-02-09   20:42:55 ET  (1 image) Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#8. To: Zipporah, christine, wakeup (#6)

maybe we can pick and choose which ones we want and wakeup can burn us customized discs

"You can not save the Constitution by destroying it."

Itisa1mosttoolate  posted on  2007-02-09   20:43:17 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#9. To: Zipporah, (#0)

This issue begs the question as to what happened to all of FEMA's related tyranny powers. Were they transferred to DHS?


SKYDRIFTER  posted on  2007-02-09   22:56:10 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#10. To: SKYDRIFTER (#9)

Hmm I believe so.. I wonder which law or order handed it over?

Zipporah  posted on  2007-02-09   22:59:31 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#11. To: Zipporah, all (#10) (Edited)

The martial law concept in the U.S. is closely tied with the Writ of habeas corpus, which is in essence the right to a hearing on lawful imprisonment, or more broadly, the supervision of law enforcement by the judiciary. The ability to suspend habeas corpus is often equated with martial law. Article 1, Section 9 of the U.S. Constitution states, "The privilege of the Writ of Habeas Corpus shall not be suspended, unless when in Cases of Rebellion or Invasion; the public Safety may require it."

In United States law, martial law is limited by several court decisions that were handed down between the American Civil War and World War II. In Ex parte Milligan 71 US 2 1866, the Supreme Court of the United States held that martial law could not be instituted within the United States when its civilian courts are in operation. In 1878, Congress passed the Posse Comitatus Act, which forbids military involvement in domestic law enforcement without congressional approval.

The National Guard is an exception, since unless federalized, they are under the control of state governors. [5]. This has now changed. Public Law 109-364, or the "John Warner Defense Authorization Act of 2007" (H.R.5122), was signed by President Bush on October 17, 2006, and allows the President to declare a "public emergency" and station troops anywhere in America and take control of state-based National Guard units without the consent of the governor or local authorities. Title V, Subtitle B, Part II, Section 525(a) of the JWDAA of 2007 reads "The [military] Secretary [of the Army, Navy or Air Force] concerned may order a member of a reserve component under the Secretary's jurisdiction to active duty...The training or duty ordered to be performed...may include...support of operations or missions undertaken by the member's unit at the request of the President or Secretary of Defense." [2]

It was a bill offerred up by congresswhores and signed by Shrub..public law something or other...I'll see if I can find it someplace in my bookmarks.

Might this be it above??

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IndieTX  posted on  2007-02-09   23:29:43 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#12. To: SKYDRIFTER, ZIPPORAH (#9)

The Federal Emergency Management Agency (FEMA) is a "former independent agency that became part of the new U.S. Department of Homeland Security in March 2003 - is tasked with responding to, planning for, recovering from and mitigating against disasters." [1]

"Some people have referred to it as the 'secret government' of the United States. It is not an elected body, it does not involve itself in public disclosures, and it even has a quasi-secret budget in the billions of dollars. This government organization has more power than the President of the United States or the Congress, it has the power to suspend laws, move entire populations, arrest and detain citizens without a warrant and hold them without trial, it can seize property, food supplies, transportation systems, and can suspend the Constitution. Not only is it the most powerful entity in the United States, but it was not even created under Constitutional law by the Congress. It was a product of a Presidential Executive Order." [2]

Brookings Institution Warning About FEMA-DHS Merger In the July 15, 2002, Press Briefing: "Brookings Report Urges Congress to Revise President Bush's Homeland Security Proposal," the Brookings Institution said:

"...FEMA ought to remain independent, basically for three reasons. One, let's not overdue the merger of too many agencies ... Two, if you do bring FEMA into the Department of Homeland Security, the Department of Homeland Security will become the responsible agency in case of a massive national disaster, be it a Hurricane Andrew or an LA earthquake or what have you. In that case the entire department or major parts of it will start to focus on the immediate response question with regard to the natural disaster and not respond to the wider, and to thus, primary mission of protecting our homeland against terrorist threats. And third, by merging FEMA which has been emerging in the last ten years as an extraordinarily effective agency into this department, you are not likely to improve its performance, but you are likely to reduce its performance." Read the report (79-page pdf): Ivo H. Daalder, et al., "Assessing the Department of Homeland Security", Brookings Institute, July, 2002. Also see: Elizabeth Becker's "Brookings Study Calls Homeland Security Plans Too Ambitious," New York Times (usenet post), July 14, 2002. Press Release: "Homeland Security Secretary Michael Chertoff Announces Six-Point Agenda for Department of Homeland Security," DHS, July 13, 2005, which included: (emphasis added) "Improve National Response and Recovery Efforts by Focusing FEMA on Its Core Functions. FEMA will report directly to the Secretary of Homeland Security. In order to strengthen and enhance our Nation’s ability to respond to and recover from manmade or natural disasters, FEMA will now focus on its historic and vital mission of response and recovery." (emphasis added) The question is this: If FEMA was so competent in 2001 when Tropical Storm Allison struck Texas, what happened after that? In 2001, Joe M. Allbaugh was FEMA Director, assisted by Dorrance Smith. Just compare how outstanding the response was for Houston (and in Florida, for that matter) to the August and September 2005 hurricanes along the Gulf Coast.

Bennett Roth, "Tropical storm aid wins praise for Bush. President's father failed to get same response in 1992," Houston Chronicle, July 1, 2001. [edit]Fraud and Waste Criticisms of FEMA's response to Hurricane Katrina are developing as survivors remain displaced for an extended period. Survivors continue to organize and document gaps in FEMA's programs at a wiki site: http://www.FEMAanswers.org.

"The national disaster response agency that mishandled the Hurricane Katrina catastrophe has for years been fraught with waste and fraud," Sally Kestin reported September 18, 2005, in the South Florida Sun-Sentinel. "In five years, the Federal Emergency Management Agency poured at least $330 million into communities that were spared the devastating effects of fires, hurricanes, floods and tornadoes. ... Taxpayers' money meant to help victims recover from catastrophes has instead gone to people in communities that suffered little or no damage." Mark Fitzgerald, "'Sun-Sentinel': Katrina Only Latest of FEMA Foul-Ups," Editor & Publisher, September 16, 2005. [edit]Authority and Powers "FEMA was created by President Jimmy Carter under Executive Order #12148. Its legal authorization is Title 42, United States Code 5121 (42 USC Sec. 5121) called the 'Stafford Act.' During activation of Executive Orders, FEMA answers only to the National Security Council which answers only to the President. Once these powers are invoked, not even Congress can intervene or countermand them for six months." [3]

Also see Establishing martial law in the United States and FEMA History. [edit]Personnel R. David Paulison, appointed by President George W. Bush to replace Michael D. Brown (Mike Brown), Under Secretary of Emergency Preparedness and Response, FEMA, was appointed by George W. Bush and relieved of his "service at the will and pleasure of The President" via resignation September 12, 2005, after failing his responsibilities during Hurricane Katrina. [edit]Contact Details URL: http://www.fema.gov/

[edit]Related SourceWatch Resources: Hurricane Katrina: List of related pages [edit]Other SourceWatch Resources CONPLAN 0400 Executive Orders FEMA relief spending in pre-Election Florida 2004 Michael Chertoff, Director of Homeland Security Robert T. Stafford Disaster Relief and Emergency Assistance Act state of national emergency [edit]External Links [edit]Articles & Commentary FEMA Executive Orders, The Forbidden Knowledge, undated. Eric Holdeman, "Disasters Keep Coming but FEMA Phased Out," Washington Post (Truthout), August 31, 2005: "Agency responsible for preparedness absorbed into homeland security." Steve Perry, "Let Them Eat Brownie. It's not about FEMA--it's about the president and the black hole of 'Homeland Security'," City Pages (Minneapolis-St. Paul), September 13, 2005. Bill Berkowitz, "FEMA Finds Faith in the Aftermath of Hurricane Katrina", Media Transparency, October 20, 2005. ("The Federal Emergency Management Agency's decision to reimburse faith-based organizations for services rendered in the aftermath of Hurricane Katrina signals another triumph for the president's faith-based initiative"). [edit]FEMA: Shadow Government Richard Boylan, Ph.D., "The Secret Shadow Government. A Structural Analysis," Above Top Secret (WorldNewsStand), undated. Harry V. Martin, "FEMA - The Secret Government," Free America, 1995. John W. Whitehead, "Paying the Price for Katrina and America’s Shadow Government," The Rutherford Institute, September 1, 2005. FEMA concentration Camps, apfn.or. Retrieved from "http://www.sourcewatch.org/index.php?title=Federal_Emergency_Management_Agency"

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In a CorporoFascist capitalist society, there is no money in peace, freedom, or a healthy population, and therefore, no incentive to achieve these - - IndieTX

In a time of universal deceit, telling the truth is a revolutionary act - - George Orwell

IndieTX  posted on  2007-02-09   23:36:59 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#13. To: Zipporah, christine (#2)

Gump Fiction

Peetie Wheatstraw  posted on  2007-02-10   1:42:28 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#14. To: Itisa1mosttoolate (#8)

"maybe we can pick and choose which ones we want and wakeup can burn us customized discs"

That's doable.

Or, send me an original and I will compensate with copies. I like having originals in my inventory.

............

Just a reminder... giving away FREEDOM TO FASCISM dvd's is a wonderful way to help Ron Paul.
Note: All my DVD's now contain two videos. Check it out. The response has been most encouraging.

http://www.ibize.com/onedollardvd/

wakeup  posted on  2007-02-10   10:55:38 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#15. To: wakeup (#14)

How to Brainwash a Nation

"You can not save the Constitution by destroying it."

Itisa1mosttoolate  posted on  2007-02-10   12:09:42 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#16. To: Zipporah, Itisa1mosttoolate (#0)

Bookmarked! Thanks for the links.

Those who make you believe in absurdities can make you commit atrocities. – Voltaire
In politics, nothing happens by accident. If it happens, you can bet it was planned that way. ~ Franklin D. Roosevelt

robin  posted on  2007-02-10   15:48:32 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#17. To: Peetie Wheatstraw (#13)

Thanks for the GumpFiction vid - good stuff.

Dr.Ron Paul for President

Lod  posted on  2007-02-10   16:55:48 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#18. To: Zipporah, All (#0)

Shadow Government Is at Work in Secret

"You can not save the Constitution by destroying it."

Itisa1mosttoolate  posted on  2007-02-11   11:24:55 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


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